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[gourmand601]

Is it true that many Walden faculty have attended the Oxford Round Table?

i have no knowledge of that as of this moment. but the faculty's credentials are top knotch. if you browse through each college's and school's faculty list, you'll be impressed as to where they earned their degrees. walden students are being educated and mentored by some of the best faculty around.

[balancing_act]

Is it true that many Walden faculty have attended the Oxford Round Table?

i have no knowledge of that as of this moment. but the faculty's credentials are top knotch. if you browse through each college's and school's faculty list, you'll be impressed as to where they earned their degrees. walden students are being educated and mentored by some of the best faculty around.

knotch? Are you serious?

[gourmand601]

A few words of wisdom: You are doing Walden's case no good here. There are a considerable number of people who looked favorably upon distance education at both the undergraduate and graduate level on this forum. More, they tend to distinguish between Walden, Nova and other similar institutions on the one hand, and the for profits like Phoenix on the other. What you have done is make that distinction less easy to defend to skeptics like me.

Let me second what betterslac said.  I am a big proponent of distance ed and non-traditional programs.  But let's be realistic:  The best distance ed programs are roughly equivalent to traditional programs at a middle ranked Compass Point State U.  And not all are even that good. 

Getting a job at a Penn State feeder campus is great, but it's not U Penn.  People do indeed attend non-traditional doctoral programs and go on to jobs in similar schools. (That is, compass points and no name SLACs.) Some even go on to dean and president roles, at least for grads of Nova and Union. (I don't know much about Walden.)

Walden grads won't get hired by R1s, never mind ivies like U Penn.  Maybe that will change someday, but academia doesn't move too quickly.  Until then, exaggerating the prestige of one's program makes that person look silly and causes the program -- and non-traditional ed -- to be looked down on.


 

I did not exaggerate Dr. Robinson's credentials. I was asked to present evidence of a Walden doctoral graduate who was in a tenured position.. and I did. Now there is a problem. Now you all want to devalue her position to that of working for a CC. Regardless of what you say or think... It's Penn State University, which has a very conservative history. The campus has nothing to do with the price of tea in China. Plus, Dr. Robinson just may not be chair right now, but when I spoke with her, she was..... things change.

When I stated UPenn, I immediately corrected myself! So I was not misleading anyone. All you had to do was READ.

Dr. Robinson was only one of many Walden graduates to go on to do great things. Aside from the recent president's scandle, the dean of the college of business at Oral Roberts is a Walden Ph.D. graduate.

I'm not pushing Walden on anyone. I just want the ignorant opinions about the institution to end. Until now, everyone was fine with bashing distance learning. But until you have actually read a Walden dissertation, interacted with Walden faculty, and taken an advanced Walden course.... you really have no bases for your argument.

[larryc]

The difference between being chair of a program at Penn State and an associate professor in a 3-person department at little regional university is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug.

I am a lightning bug myself and I mean no offense to the person in question. It was not she who grossly exaggerated her credentials to make a point on a discussion board.

[gourmand601]

The difference between being chair of a program at Penn State and an associate professor in a 3-person department at little regional university is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug.

I am a lightning bug myself and I mean no offense to the person in question. It was not she who grossly exaggerated her credentials to make a point on a discussion board.

a little regional university?  you people are digging.

[larryc]

The irony here TS is that I am one of the leading proponents of distance education, including graduate education, on these boards. You do enormous damage to your own cause (and mine!) with your posts here. In the future curious potential grad students are going to Google about for information on Walden and find this thread. And what will they think when they read your posts--combative, poorly written, full of exaggeration and yet failing even the basics of grammar and logical argument. And this from someone at least claiming to be a graduate student at Walden University?

I can think of three purposes of graduate education right off hand: 1) to gain knowledge of the field, 2) to learn to write well including the ability to make logical arguments proceeding from evidence, and 3) to understand how the academic world works. Your own posts argue powerfully against the ability of the program at Walden to equip its students for 2 and 3.

I am sorry to be so harsh, but if you really care about Walden University you will put down that shovel and climb out of the hole you are digging here.

[gourmand601]

i did not know that this was a literacy exam. i was under the understanding that this was an open discussion forum. now i'm being graded for grammar? get a grip people.

i do not stand against your criticism.... i welcome it. it can only make me stronger.

[jonesey]

i did not know that this was a literacy exam. i was under the understanding that this was an open discussion forum. now i'm being graded for grammar? get a grip people.

i do not stand against your criticism.... i welcome it. it can only make me stronger.

It's not a literacy exam, but you don't help your cause when your posts look like text messages from a high school student.

[gourmand601]

i did not know that this was a literacy exam. i was under the understanding that this was an open discussion forum. now i'm being graded for grammar? get a grip people.

i do not stand against your criticism.... i welcome it. it can only make me stronger.

that's funny!
It's not a literacy exam, but you don't help your cause when your posts look like text messages from a high school student.

[yellowtractor]

Not really--it's sad.  And it's sadder yet that you can't understand how your unwillingness or inability to express yourself in standard written English undermines both your and Walden's causes on this professional academic forum.

[gourmand601]

Not really--it's sad.  And it's sadder yet that you can't understand how your unwillingness or inability to express yourself in standard written English undermines both your and Walden's causes on this professional academic forum.

so because i choose not to use capitalization in my informal chats i'm less of a person and a poor representation of the academy?

[balancing_act]

Not really--it's sad.  And it's sadder yet that you can't understand how your unwillingness or inability to express yourself in standard written English undermines both your and Walden's causes on this professional academic forum.

so because i choose not to use capitalization in my informal chats i'm less of a person and a poor representation of the academy?

In a word, yes. I don't know about the "less of a person," but a poor representation of the academy, yes. Your posts have been poorly written and your arguments, too defensive and silly. You are not representing Walden very well. Stop. Move onto another topic.

[gourmand601]

Not really--it's sad.  And it's sadder yet that you can't understand how your unwillingness or inability to express yourself in standard written English undermines both your and Walden's causes on this professional academic forum.

so because i choose not to use capitalization in my informal chats i'm less of a person and a poor representation of the academy?

In a word, yes. I don't know about the "less of a person," but a poor representation of the academy, yes. Your posts have been poorly written and your arguments, too defensive and silly. You are not representing Walden very well. Stop. Move onto another topic.

well i do not believe in whipping a dead horse.

today's article on suffering colleges transitioning to for-profit institutions in quite interesting to me. i think this is a good move a long as ownership is not publically traded. what are you all's opinion on for-profit education?

[jonesey]

well i do not believe in whipping a dead horse.

Do you believe in the SHIFT key?

[zharkov]

 what are you all's opinion on for-profit education?

Translating from the CSA dialect, I think you mean:  What do youse think of for-profit schools?

My view:  As the poet says, you gotta serve somebody.  For state schools, it is the legislature.  For non-profits, bondholders and rich alums. For for-profits, the stockholders.