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imawakenow
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« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2007, 09:30:23 PM »


Walden has matched many top ranked traditional universities in various areas of research. The university sponsors an Academic Research Symposium each

Name one.

Name one recognized scholar, hell, any tenure-track professor at a public university--who graduated from Walden.



Dr. Sharon Robinson... University of Pennsylvania. Not only is she tenured, but she's also a faculty chair.

Anything else?

It's Dr. Sharon Robinson at PENN STATE U. I am correcting myself. For some reason, I had UPenn on my brain.

Link please.
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« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2007, 10:16:00 PM »


Walden has matched many top ranked traditional universities in various areas of research. The university sponsors an Academic Research Symposium each

Name one.

Name one recognized scholar, hell, any tenure-track professor at a public university--who graduated from Walden.



Dr. Sharon Robinson... University of Pennsylvania. Not only is she tenured, but she's also a faculty chair.

Anything else?

It's Dr. Sharon Robinson at PENN STATE U. I am correcting myself. For some reason, I had UPenn on my brain.

Link please.

I'm not going to do your homework for you. I've given you the lead you asked for.... go fish!
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« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2007, 09:07:54 AM »

Um, this person isn't listed in the directory on the main campus, as I did check.

If you have a link, please post it.

Otherwise, I think you've made your point.
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« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2007, 05:58:50 PM »

i don't think you looked hard enough.
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« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2007, 06:29:25 PM »

TrueScholar, please use standard capitalization on this academic forum. Thank you.
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« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2007, 06:55:38 PM »

i don't think you looked hard enough.

The reason why this flack can't come up with any link is because the only mention of this "accomplishment" on the web appears to be on a fluff bb that promotes Walden. Google doesn't come up with anything else connecting this person with any of the Penn State campuses.
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« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2007, 07:41:35 PM »

TrueScholar, please use standard capitalization on this academic forum. Thank you.

That's just like you brick-and-mortar elites; demanding things like capitalization.  What's next, punctuation?  Fascists.
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« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2007, 09:56:20 PM »

i don't think you looked hard enough.

Please just go away. Seriously.
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« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2007, 11:46:58 PM »

i don't think you looked hard enough.

Please just go away. Seriously.

i know this won't make your day..... but i'm here to stay. get a grip
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« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2007, 11:51:23 PM »

i don't think you looked hard enough.

The reason why this flack can't come up with any link is because the only mention of this "accomplishment" on the web appears to be on a fluff bb that promotes Walden. Google doesn't come up with anything else connecting this person with any of the Penn State campuses.


talk about incompetence.  here you go... 

http://www.hn.psu.edu/Academics/facprofile.aspx?cn217=&u=1004375
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« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2007, 11:55:11 PM »

oh... and yes.. her official name is sharon.. she is informally known by sherry.
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« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2007, 12:03:59 AM »

Is it true that many Walden faculty have attended the Oxford Round Table?
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« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2007, 12:46:23 AM »

i don't think you looked hard enough.

The reason why this flack can't come up with any link is because the only mention of this "accomplishment" on the web appears to be on a fluff bb that promotes Walden. Google doesn't come up with anything else connecting this person with any of the Penn State campuses.



talk about incompetence.  here you go... 

http://www.hn.psu.edu/Academics/facprofile.aspx?cn217=&u=1004375

That is by far one of the most interesting academic backgrounds I've seen--religious SLAC to large private to online to European.

Score one for "truescholar" and Walden.
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« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2007, 01:08:37 AM »

i don't think you looked hard enough.

The reason why this flack can't come up with any link is because the only mention of this "accomplishment" on the web appears to be on a fluff bb that promotes Walden. Google doesn't come up with anything else connecting this person with any of the Penn State campuses.



talk about incompetence.  here you go... 

http://www.hn.psu.edu/Academics/facprofile.aspx?cn217=&u=1004375

1) Sherry is a bit different than Sharon, so not finding this link is not "incompetence"
2) I am sure she is a fine person and scholar, but you are doing her a disservice by building her position into something more than she has. She does not have a "chair" at Penn State (much less at Penn); she is an associate professor at Penn State's satellite campus at Hazleton, which appears to be a bit (but not much) more than a community college, as most of activity seems to be lower level coursework either for an associate degree or in preparation for transfer to one of the main campuses in the Penn State system. A good and perfectly respectable academic job, but hardly proof that graduates of Walden go on to mainstream tenure track jobs at four year institutions.

A few words of wisdom: You are doing Walden's case no good here. There are a considerable number of people who looked favorably upon distance education at both the undergraduate and graduate level on this forum. More, they tend to distinguish between Walden, Nova and other similar institutions on the one hand, and the for profits like Phoenix on the other. What you have done is make that distinction less easy to defend to skeptics like me.
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« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2007, 08:54:29 AM »


A few words of wisdom: You are doing Walden's case no good here. There are a considerable number of people who looked favorably upon distance education at both the undergraduate and graduate level on this forum. More, they tend to distinguish between Walden, Nova and other similar institutions on the one hand, and the for profits like Phoenix on the other. What you have done is make that distinction less easy to defend to skeptics like me.


Let me second what betterslac said.  I am a big proponent of distance ed and non-traditional programs.  But let's be realistic:  The best distance ed programs are roughly equivalent to traditional programs at a middle ranked Compass Point State U.  And not all are even that good. 

Getting a job at a Penn State feeder campus is great, but it's not U Penn.  People do indeed attend non-traditional doctoral programs and go on to jobs in similar schools. (That is, compass points and no name SLACs.) Some even go on to dean and president roles, at least for grads of Nova and Union. (I don't know much about Walden.)

Walden grads won't get hired by R1s, never mind ivies like U Penn.  Maybe that will change someday, but academia doesn't move too quickly.  Until then, exaggerating the prestige of one's program makes that person look silly and causes the program -- and non-traditional ed -- to be looked down on.


 

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