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treehugger1
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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2007, 01:26:57 PM »

And is this lack of mentorship a cause for concern?  Will the level of scholarship decrease when people like myself are thrown out into the professional world? 
I'd be more inclined to worry about those who had too much advisor/committee guidance through the dissertation process than too little.

Thanks, n_a_g1,

This is a cheery thought!
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2007, 02:30:02 PM »

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something as simple as the fact that I don't want to be surprised at my defense by someone pointing out a major flaw.

Maybe you can meet with your advisor or other members to have coffee and discuss some of your ideas and just talk about what you are writing without them reading it. 30-45minutes of coffee time might be less of a burden to them.

But yes, this sucks and they should be reading.

Thanks, August_Leo.  Your suggestion sounds so lovely.  Maybe I can get my advisor to go to coffee.  Getting more than one person to coffee - a miracle.  It takes foreover to get any member to be able tomake the same day and time. I've been trying since October to schedule a diss defense.  One committee member is too busy to reply to the secretary of our department to agree on a date that FINALLY everyone else agreed to.  You'd think you were trying to world leaders scheduled. 
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2007, 02:33:38 PM »

Last spring, he insisted that I submit my dissertation for a defense, even though he had only read 90 pages of it -- once. (He praised each of the three chapters he read -- one was even "outstanding" -- and offered minimal constructive criticism). Then, a week before the defense, two other professors on my committee (who had, thankfully, taken the time to read the diss) decided it just wasn't ready and asked my advisor to call the defense off. 

After the debacle, I explicitly asked him to read drafts, not just supposedly final versions of the chapters and/or recognize the existing problems with the dissertation -- including the methodology and the thesis statement. He agreed to do both in person. The next day, he sent an email in which he not only reneged, but also 1) suggested that I had been unprofessional by asking for feedback and 2)threatened to have me retake my comps if I didn't rewrite the whole diss within a month or so.

It was suddenly clear to me that all this "autonomy" I had thought I had been granted was little more than laziness on my advisor's part. I was just so angry.

I did wind up getting a year extention on the comps, thanks, in part to the Dean of the Graduate College (and in part to the fact that I'd had serious health problems for a number of years.)

My advisor and I still respect each other and have a very good, if somewhat distant relationship.  I have to admit that I'm much happier with an AWOL advisor than I'd be with a sadistic, controlling, micro-manager. Still, I crave -- honestly crave -- real criticism in a way I never thought I would as a Master's student, or an undergrad.

Malinche, I don't know about the possible effects of all this advisor negligence on the field. I, at least, am still deluded enough to believe that I'll do a good diss anyway ....

Treehugger, this sounds so awful.  You sound like a real trooper though - like it's made you stronger.  Well, at least your advisor got some embarassment from his crappy mentoring. Not that that is any helpful to you.

Best of luck.
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