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« Reply #6780 on: February 07, 2010, 04:29:35 PM » |
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I guess my question is: is it kosher for me to ask one of my recommenders to nominate me? It seems that this would get my application looked at little more closely.
I was told by a mentor that when a job comes open I want to call him and he'd find someone at the school who he knew or a friend who knew someone that in some way would be able to recommend me. He said that in this day and age, without someone telling them to look at your application, they don't....so DEFINITELY ask to be nominated!!! |
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« Reply #6781 on: February 08, 2010, 09:15:40 PM » |
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Slight updates.
Job 1 made me a verbal offer as previously reported. Fairly nice offer, definitely worth considering. Job 1 is flying us out so spouse can have a look around, then we'll make a decision.
Job 2's app resulted in a rejection form letter some time ago.
Job 3 gave me a phone interview, then emailed asking for more info, which was sent. Since then <crickets> Meanwhile, Job 3 called today and invited me for a campus interview. It's likely to be after the dropdead date to accept Job 1. It might be before that date, but unlikely to make an offer prior to that date. I should know the actual interview date tomorrow. So much drama. Ack. At least it's a good drama, for a change. No, I'm not in the humanities, obviously. |
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« Reply #6782 on: February 09, 2010, 04:47:09 AM » |
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So after a few months of crickets, Im in a short list again. Being on this short list made me realize two things: how even the smallest bit of good news can lift your spirits, and, conversely, how this job market is rough on one's self esteem.
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« Reply #6783 on: February 09, 2010, 07:52:54 AM » |
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I just had my interview scheduled! To quote-ish a very wise forum member.... MUST. NOT. FREAK. OUT!
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« Reply #6784 on: February 09, 2010, 03:10:29 PM » |
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So after a few months of crickets, Im in a short list again. Being on this short list made me realize two things: how even the smallest bit of good news can lift your spirits, and, conversely, how this job market is rough on one's self esteem.
Congratulations. By the way, are you Joel P, or are you Joe LP? (Or does your moniker represent something altogether different?) |
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« Reply #6785 on: February 09, 2010, 03:36:29 PM » |
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In January I interviewed for a 2 year VAP at a SLAC in my field. A couple of weeks later I received a letter saying that the position had been changed to a 2 year post-doc and was encouraged to apply.
Crickets from everywhere else.
Stats:
Applications: 15ish
Interviews: 3
Campus invites: 0
Wikijections: 4ish
Crickets: the rest
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« Reply #6786 on: February 09, 2010, 03:46:02 PM » |
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Since I have been sick, I made a spreadsheet to look at patterns and found my stats are:
Applications: 28 (not counting adjunct)
Wikijections: 4
E-rejections: 2 (including a position I'd been invited to apply for!)
Letter rejects: 2
Assumption rejections: 2 (these are the emails that say, we got your application and if we don't ask for more materials by X date, we didn't choose you)
Suspended search: 1
Phone interviews: 2
On-Campus: 1
Crickets: everything else
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« Reply #6787 on: February 09, 2010, 04:17:25 PM » |
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So after a few months of crickets, Im in a short list again. Being on this short list made me realize two things: how even the smallest bit of good news can lift your spirits, and, conversely, how this job market is rough on one's self esteem.
Congratulations. By the way, are you Joel P, or are you Joe LP? (Or does your moniker represent something altogether different?) Thanks. Actually, Im neither. It's just a close phonetic proximate to my actual, foreign sounding, name. |
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« Reply #6788 on: February 09, 2010, 04:54:39 PM » |
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Hello all,
I have a question. I've been told by my adviser that I shouldn't act desperate but if by any chance I get invited for an on campus interview at my dream school... to what extent should one censor the statement such as "This is my dream school." Is it also bad to admit that the location is what really drew me to that school? I am not sure to what extent I should show my enthusiasm or love for the school without sounding desperate...I think I lost the opportunity to be invited at one of the school because I didn't really show much enthusiasm or excitement. Please let me know what you guys think. Thanks!
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« Reply #6789 on: February 09, 2010, 05:21:39 PM » |
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Hello all,
I have a question. I've been told by my adviser that I shouldn't act desperate but if by any chance I get invited for an on campus interview at my dream school... to what extent should one censor the statement such as "This is my dream school." Is it also bad to admit that the location is what really drew me to that school? I am not sure to what extent I should show my enthusiasm or love for the school without sounding desperate...I think I lost the opportunity to be invited at one of the school because I didn't really show much enthusiasm or excitement. Please let me know what you guys think. Thanks!
If the draw is mostly location, your interviewers are not going to be very impressed with that. I wouldn't ever admit that a school is my "dream school" in an interview. Show I am very interested yes, but use terminology like that, no. Showing enthusiam and interest should be easily discernable from showing desperation. If they are not, then you need to work on your communication skills. |
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« Reply #6790 on: February 09, 2010, 05:28:31 PM » |
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Thanks for your response. I think then I did the right thing by not mentioning the word "dream school" and also not emphasizing on the "location" too much. could the search committee take more than a week to decide on campus interview candidates? I am too restless.
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« Reply #6791 on: February 09, 2010, 05:34:34 PM » |
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C'mon, school located somewhere northwest of here! Call!
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« Reply #6792 on: February 09, 2010, 06:08:29 PM » |
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Thanks for your response. I think then I did the right thing by not mentioning the word "dream school" and also not emphasizing on the "location" too much. could the search committee take more than a week to decide on campus interview candidates? I am too restless.
They could take any amount of time from 1 minute to 97 years, based on data reported on the Forums. C'mon, school located somewhere northwest of here! Call!
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« Reply #6793 on: February 09, 2010, 10:02:54 PM » |
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Boo. Phone interview school wikijected me.
Oh well, I didn't really want to move there anyway, to be honest. And it looks, from the average Asst. Prof. salary info on the Chronicle website, that I make significantly more in my current job (as in, more than $10k/year more) than they'd be able to offer me.
Onward and upward! And I've also applied for a senior admin job for which I would be eminently qualified, wouldn't have to uproot my family, and I have a strong advocate on the inside...
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« Reply #6794 on: February 09, 2010, 10:13:18 PM » |
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So, bad news, with a silver lining. I received a rejection from the USGS job that I talked about earlier - the one that first said that I was not qualified, then I was, then I didn't hear anything, then they asked if I was still interested... The silver lining was that, after I asked for some feedback, I got it. An HR superhero (superheroine?) sent me a detailed list of what goes into their decision, where I was weak, what my total score was, and the cutoff score for going on to the next stage. After I sent an e-mail thanking her (of course), she sends me another e-mail with more info about the selection process, as well as mentioning another, similar, job if I'm interested.
So there are wonderful people even in government HR departments :-)
Too bad LL, but hopefully you'll get good news from the job you want.
AOF - I'm sure that you'll kill on your campus interview, so don't worry about the crickets.
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