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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2007, 01:15:09 PM »

I had a student this semester use this word: ignologe.   It took my colleagues only a few seconds to figure it out, but it took me nearly a half hour (I graded other papers while this "word" bounced around in my subconscious).



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It DOES tell us that they aren't hearing words correctly.  That's why they so often confuse whether and weather, quiet and quite, and even then and than.  When I talk to them about it in class, they really can't hear the difference.  I have no clue as to why.

And I think I've posted this one before, but I once had a student write a paper about the tragic deaths of the ocra pups at the local zoo.  Ocra should not be raised in captivity, she explained, but baby ocras should always be allowed to swim free in the ocean with their mothers.

I still laugh to tears thinking about that one.  It was consistent throughout the paper.
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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2007, 01:42:01 PM »

If you want an eye-opening lesson in...uh....creative misspelling, check out this link:

http://icanhascheezburger.com/

The pictures are cute. The way the English language is butchered in the captions, though, isn't.
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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2007, 01:46:59 PM »

It DOES tell us that they aren't hearing words correctly.  That's why they so often confuse whether and weather, quiet and quite, and even then and than.  When I talk to them about it in class, they really can't hear the difference.  I have no clue as to why.

I think that students can't hear the difference in part because they have relatively bad vocabularies and don't read very much.  They can't hear the difference because they have not 'seen' the difference (or rather the correct spelling of these words) because many of them have not read anything that was not assigned in school.
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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2007, 01:48:47 PM »

Yes, that makes sense. 
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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2007, 01:50:02 PM »

If you want an eye-opening lesson in...uh....creative misspelling, check out this link:

http://icanhascheezburger.com/

The pictures are cute. The way the English language is butchered in the captions, though, isn't.

They apparently do it deliberately.  Personally, I find that scarier.

Of course, we're a country that revels in spelling things phonetically, like the Kountry Kitchen or the Qwik Stop.  I read an article somewhere years ago that noted the possibility that this societal predilection contributed to the decline in spelling proficiency.  No idea if it's true, but those spellings always bugged me.
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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2007, 01:53:54 PM »

I heard a good one from a colleague: "anti-Semantics." 
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« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2007, 01:54:34 PM »


Incorrect use of apostrophe's (e.g., There were 200 participant's in this study...)


That was intentional, correct?
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« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2007, 02:04:43 PM »

I had a student this semester use this word: ignologe.   It took my colleagues only a few seconds to figure it out, but it took me nearly a half hour (I graded other papers while this "word" bounced around in my subconscious
That one I got quickly, and I think it's not too far off from how people often pronounce it.

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It DOES tell us that they aren't hearing words correctly.  That's why they so often confuse whether and weather, quiet and quite, and even then and than.  When I talk to them about it in class, they really can't hear the difference.  I have no clue as to why.
Some of this may be dialectical, and some of may just be laziness in speech.  I'd guess that it's not usually primarily a listening issue, per se, but rather an issue of the speech people receive.  Unless I'm consciously affecting my speech (and I mean "affecting" in the sense of putting on airs or enunciating in a way that is very unnatural to me), I pronounce "whether" and "weather" the same way (and that goes for most words with "wh" - "whale" = "wale", "what" = "wut", "where" = "wear", etc.).  Depending on context, "then" and "than" may or may not sound the same.  I'd say "than", as in "Better Than Ezra" (a band from the '90s, maybe?) or with a schwa tending towards a short "e" in the middle - definitely not a short "a".  "Faster than a speeding bullet" and "more powerful than a locomotive" may come a little closer to short "a", but that may be the influence of the TV show announcer, with his mid-century TV announcer dialect.

I also pronounce the number "20" as "twunny" (short "u" tending towards "e"), not "twenty". 

Clearly, the only logical conlusion is that it's my fault your students can't spell!  ;)
(Except for quite and quiet.  Those I always distinguish.)

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And I think I've posted this one before, but I once had a student write a paper about the tragic deaths of the ocra pups at the local zoo.  Ocra should not be raised in captivity, she explained, but baby ocras should always be allowed to swim free in the ocean with their mothers.
That's a funny example.  I hear orkas are soggy and/or stringy unless cooked properly.
I heard, and this may or may not be apocryphal, that Oprah's mother intended to name her after a biblical figure (Orpah) but did the same thing your student did and transposed the sounds and letters.

Edit: I agree with finallydone, though, that lack of exposure to the written forms of many of these words may also play a major role.  I'll admit that for years I thought the word "Chaos" rhymed with "Taos" and had a "ch" as in "Chuck"; there was a video game called "Dr. Chaos", and I thought it was just his name.   Meanwhile, I knew the word "chaos" well aurally, and probably used it, but had never thought about how to spell it.  And then I was surprised and excited to learn they were one and the same.  Ditto on the name "Chaim", as in Potok.  Like "chain", but with an "m" at the end, right?  :)

Edit: If you are pronouncing them in class and they still can't hear the difference, then maybe there is a listening component as well.  I'm curious whether (weather?) you are teaching in the region of the country where you were raised, or in a different region.  (This shouldn't make a difference if you are enunciating the different sounds, but it may affect whether the local dialect has the same quirks as yours.)
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« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2007, 02:58:44 PM »

It DOES tell us that they aren't hearing words correctly.  That's why they so often confuse whether and weather, quiet and quite, and even then and than.  When I talk to them about it in class, they really can't hear the difference.  I have no clue as to why.

I think that students can't hear the difference in part because they have relatively bad vocabularies and don't read very much.  They can't hear the difference because they have not 'seen' the difference (or rather the correct spelling of these words) because many of them have not read anything that was not assigned in school.

I think it's both--they don't physically hear the difference and they don't read much. I used to hear "taken for granite" but eventually matched that up with the written version, "taken for granted." My peeve this semester is dropped suffixes: "You are bias against me!" or "The tourist are all over the place." The "bias" problem was so pervasive in my tech writing class that I had to go over it with the whole group. They don't hear the "ed" in speech, so they don't write it.
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« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2007, 03:16:53 PM »

For every assignment, I have a student that is "defiantly" this or that. I assume it has something to do with MS Word correcting "definitely" when they don't quite get it right.
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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2007, 03:43:41 PM »

If you want an eye-opening lesson in...uh....creative misspelling, check out this link:

http://icanhascheezburger.com/

The pictures are cute. The way the English language is butchered in the captions, though, isn't.

Check these out: http://community.livejournal.com/cololnials/ and http://community.livejournal.com/lolhistory/


Why yes, I am a history major, how could you tell?
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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2007, 03:51:21 PM »

Check these out: http://community.livejournal.com/cololnials/ and http://community.livejournal.com/lolhistory/


Why yes, I am a history major, how could you tell?


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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2007, 03:56:05 PM »

gin aside



I did not understand what the student meant until I read the sentence aloud. Hint: the paper was deploring the wholesale murder of a group of people.
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2007, 04:07:33 PM »

gin aside



I did not understand what the student meant until I read the sentence aloud. Hint: the paper was deploring the wholesale murder of a group of people.

Gin aside, I enjoy most alcoholic beverages.

There; I used it in a sentence. It must be a real word.
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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2007, 04:22:32 PM »

I'm not sure if a 20-page term paper on "pubic art" qualifies for the upserd but it sure did make me giggle---repeatedly
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