expatinuk
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« on: October 15, 2007, 04:33:37 AM » |
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How many of y'all have to do this darn Transparency Document thing?
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2007, 05:34:30 AM » |
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I guess I don't have to, cuz I don't know what it is.
But I'm guessing that it involves an opaque piece (or pieces) of paper.
It also sounds like the sort of thing where, at the bottom in small type, the following should appear:
"This document was produced in an institution that processes nuts."
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expatinuk
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2007, 05:38:26 AM » |
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It's the freaking document where you list how you spend you time... what grants, what teaching... what what what. You are supposed to have it on file to be able to apply for research council grants. I HATE IT
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2007, 05:42:38 AM » |
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ooh, ooh! I remember that! I used to falsify it regularly at my last job.
But you've made me realize that we don't get them where I now work. I wonder why not. But it's one more reason to like the place where I work now.
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2007, 05:55:18 AM » |
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ooh, ooh! I remember that! I used to falsify it regularly at my last job.
But you've made me realize that we don't get them where I now work. I wonder why not. But it's one more reason to like the place where I work now.
If your new place is anything like my last place, your departmental administrator is doing them for you. |
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2007, 06:07:58 AM » |
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We have them as well. I never sent them back - the administration generally gives up after 4 emails. After months of begging, they received just 40% back - they should have guessed by now people ignore them. And anyway, otherwise I would just put random percentages in the form.
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2007, 10:46:39 AM » |
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Yep, recently completed mine for the summer. But ours don't have much detail, if I recall research had four categories - externally funded, non-externally funded, research supervision, and research administration. Similar for teaching and admin.
They always make me want to ask my Chair what numbers he'd like me to imagine....
They do get read, however. We had a guy who hasn't published in 5 years say that he spent 50% of his time on research! This did not go down well.
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It's not procrastination. It's "just in time" delivery.
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expatinuk
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2007, 10:50:08 AM » |
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We have them as well. I never sent them back - the administration generally gives up after 4 emails. After months of begging, they received just 40% back - they should have guessed by now people ignore them. And anyway, otherwise I would just put random percentages in the form.
This can come back to bite you .... if you don't have a high enough return rate you can't apply for funding from any of the Research Councils. |
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2007, 10:55:06 AM » |
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Currently in the US, where my public university has them every semester. The numbers (consolidated) go to the state legislature, where they are said to help determine our funding, and each category has to be stated in hours per week (rather than percentages). Needless to say, almost all department chairs not only wink at inflation but encourage inflation -- see, everyone is working 72 hours per week, so we clearly need to hire more faculty.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2007, 11:00:22 AM » |
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Currently in the US, where my public university has them every semester. The numbers (consolidated) go to the state legislature, where they are said to help determine our funding, and each category has to be stated in hours per week (rather than percentages). Needless to say, almost all department chairs not only wink at inflation but encourage inflation -- see, everyone is working 72 hours per week, so we clearly need to hire more faculty.
A constant gripe here is that we have to use percentages... |
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2007, 11:38:49 AM » |
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Currently in the US, where my public university has them every semester. The numbers (consolidated) go to the state legislature, where they are said to help determine our funding, and each category has to be stated in hours per week (rather than percentages). Needless to say, almost all department chairs not only wink at inflation but encourage inflation -- see, everyone is working 72 hours per week, so we clearly need to hire more faculty.
A constant gripe here is that we have to use percentages... Well, an obvious solution presents itself: individual percentages that add up to more than 100... |
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2007, 11:40:50 AM » |
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Doesn't work - we've tried.
Oh, for the 37.5 hour week (44 weeks per year) that RCUK says I work!
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2007, 12:18:53 PM » |
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Just received my 5th reminder... There are about 19 categories. Frankly, I have no idea how much I spend. If they continue insisting, I will just have to make something up. My specialisation is performance indicators, and it makes my stomach turn that information of this quality would actually be used in decision making.
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2007, 12:56:34 PM » |
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science_expat, I can't tell you how happy it makes me to hear that you tried!
I'm just sorry to learn that "they" could actually add up and find not equals 100.
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2007, 12:12:44 PM » |
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We had these a while ago. Haven't seen one recently.
Our Faculty Chair read out the "recommended" percentages at a meeting and encouraged all of us to fill in exactly the same figures. If I remember, it was 50% Research, 35% Teaching, 15% Admin.
Yeah, right. That sure sounds like my average year.....Being ornery, I used 49%, 37% and 14%.
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