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voxprincipalis
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2011, 06:11:19 AM »

No no no! The thesaurus is the work of the devil. The basic organizing principle is that there are clumps of words that all mean the same damn thing. In fact there are few or no words in English that mean exactly the same thing. Using a thesaurus to write with leads to a paper full of strangely misused words--what we in the humanities call "the thesaurus syndrome" and recognize in an instant.

The way to enlarge your vocabulary is to read widely. There may be shortcuts, but a thesaurus is not one of them.

I realize Larry's response is four years old, and that in the interim he may have seen the light and changed his ways, but just in case, I have to agree with namazu and infopri that the thesaurus is only the work of the devil when in the hands of nimrods.

The time when the thesaurus is most useful to me is the time at which I know I haven't used *quite* the word I wanted -- when I know that there exists an alternative that more precisely expresses what I want, but which at that particular moment eludes my mnemonic grasp. In other words, it is useful for reviewing the various shades of meaning of words I already know, not for randomly choosing to replace one word with a word I don't recognize that has more syllables or fancier letters (preferably ones that include umlauts) than the original.

Also, thesaurus.com has a nice feature nowadays in which they show you via diagram the general spheres of meaning to which a word is connected and how it relates to other words which share that particular connotation. It's very interesting.

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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2011, 10:26:26 AM »

LarryC comment made me recall an old episode of friends:


Monica: It doesn't make any sense.
Joey: Of course it does. It's smart! I used a thesaurus!
Chandler: On every word?
Joey: Yep.
Monica: All right, what was this sentance, originally?
Joey: Oh. "They're warm, nice people with big hearts."
Chandler: And that became, "They're humid, pre-possessing homosapiens with full-sized aortic pumps?"


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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2011, 10:21:48 AM »

I appreciate the answers to such an old thread. Roget's I agree but was disappointed to find not available on Amazon. uk, so went with Oxford.

And I also had the same view as LarryC once upon a time. I used to nicely tease my partner about his using Roget's seeing it as a bit of a lazy crutch until one day, I picked it up and really enjoyed using it. I use it as Voxprincipalis describes, so right on VP! But I really don't care for the online versions--quite limited and sometimes totally wrong.

Much obliged (Oxford Thesarus, 'thank you')

z.a.
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2011, 10:47:36 AM »

The time when the thesaurus is most useful to me is the time at which I know I haven't used *quite* the word I wanted -- when I know that there exists an alternative that more precisely expresses what I want, but which at that particular moment eludes my mnemonic grasp.

Yes, exactly! YES! Me too! +1

(But lordy I feel old when I have to go to a book or a website to find a word that is buried in my mind. I feel like an old dog who buried a bone and has to dig up the whole yard to find it. An OLD dog.)
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