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« on: August 26, 2007, 07:06:28 AM » |
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I'm in the process of finding external tenure reviewers for a colleague. My first time to do this. I was a little surprised to find out that we don't pay people to do this. I never thought that we would pay them enough to make it worth their while, but I assumed that there would be a token honorarium. And in fact, yesterday a prospective reviewer agreed to do it, but mentioned in passing that he assumed that he would be paid something. I'm waiting to find out whether he considers the fact that he won't a deal-breaker. I'm just curious whether we are unusually tight-fisted in not paying reviewers or whether that is the norm (or at least common).
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2007, 08:25:18 AM » |
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I've never heard of being paid for writing an external review. The task is a service to one's profession and an important leadership role for senior faculty.
I just completed an external review. I wasn't paid a cent. Didn't expect anything either. All this may vary by field, however.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2007, 12:08:01 PM » |
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I've not been paid in the US...
I chalk it up to 'service'
However, in the UK I am paid to act as an external reviewer for most anything.
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2007, 09:29:02 AM » |
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I don't think people in the social sciences and humanities in the US are ever paid to conduct individual tenure/promotion reviews. There may be some payment beyond expenses to do a program review, but I don't think it's much.
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2007, 09:41:17 AM » |
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Thanks. It is good to know that my university isn't unusual in its meanness, I guess. Presumably, then, this person just hasn't done any/many reviews, so he is as much of a novice in this as I am.
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2007, 12:46:50 PM » |
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I've not been paid in the US...
I chalk it up to 'service'
However, in the UK I am paid to act as an external reviewer for most anything.
There are lots of external reviewing jobs that are paid in the UK, but I have never heard of anyone being paid for acting as a reviewer for promotion cases. |
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2007, 01:18:02 PM » |
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I've completed a number of tenure reviews. Only once did I receive a small token. I think it was a card holder with the school's name on it. It was a nice gesture.
Other than that, just another service requirement.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2007, 06:34:18 PM » |
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I've done reviews several times - for applicants in the US and Canada - and only paid once (in fact I was shocked to get the check, it was for $100 which I immediately donated to my university's foundation). Writing letters is part of my job, for which I am already paid, and writing letters for people in my field is a pleasure and privilege. - DvF
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2007, 11:06:10 PM » |
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I was paid once for an external tenure review by a good SLAC. I am a social scientist. I think I was paid $50 or so.
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2007, 09:53:54 PM » |
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I did one a year or so ago, and was surprised to find that there was a contract for a $100 honorarium in the package--kind of ostentatious paperwork, somehow, I remember thinking. What makes this more odd is that I never got the check or any indication that they had ever offered anything. Maybe they heard that most schools don't pay, and changed their minds after the fact. Tacky though, whatever the reason.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2007, 11:58:52 AM » |
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I've enlisted about 50 different academics as external reviewers for various tenure and/or promotion cases and pay them only with much appreciation. I try to use one above our minimum number of six reviewers, in case one agrees to perform the task and then does not end up submitting a letter. This is rare but it has happened to me once or twice.
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2007, 03:24:30 AM » |
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I've gotten between $200-500 each time.
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2007, 03:53:45 PM » |
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I never did hear back from the person who asked about the money, despite a prodding email after a week or so. Since his classes are in session I assume that he got the messages and said no by saying nothing. I won't fault someone for not wanting to do the work without a reward, but it would have been nice if he had said so immediately so that I wasn't delayed in finding a replacement.
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