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Author Topic: Hourly Adjunct Rate at Vocational Schools?  (Read 4532 times)
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« on: August 21, 2007, 04:27:17 PM »

I am looking into teaching MBA and BBA level courses as an adjunct instructor at a private school in the Los Angeles area called Kingston University (http://www.kingstonuniversity.us) and they have asked for my hourly instruction rate. Since I am new to all of this, I thought I would seek advice from the sages here first. I don't know much about the school other than it is private and appears to be vocational in nature or at least in origin, but I am looking to get some teaching experience as I embark on my Ph.D. in Human and Organizational Systems at Fielding Graduate University (I have also completed two semesters in an Organizational Leadership Ed.D. program at Pepperdine). My guess is that $30 to $40 is witihn the range (some local community colleges pay $40 to $60). By the way, I have previously taught traffic school (snicker and giggle) and am finishing up my first two online classes with Axia College of University of Phoenix. Any thoughts out there? Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2007, 04:38:21 PM »


I never heard of this school, so I followed the link.  It doesn't seem to be regionally accredited, and the accreditor might be one that does diploma mills. Go carefully here.  Double and triple check this place.

As a piece of career advice, I would say to avoid non-accredited schools.

That said, you should figure on at least $2500 to do an line MBA course. (It isn't an hourly job.....  What with that???)

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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2007, 04:56:27 PM »


I never heard of this school, so I followed the link.  It doesn't seem to be regionally accredited, and the accreditor might be one that does diploma mills. Go carefully here.  Double and triple check this place.

As a piece of career advice, I would say to avoid non-accredited schools.

That said, you should figure on at least $2500 to do an line MBA course. (It isn't an hourly job.....  What with that???)



Thanks for the input: yes, there is reason to be concerned, though to what degree I am not sure. In the ad for the position, which I found on Craigslist, they claim to be "approved by the Bureau for Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education of State of California to offer business administration programs." And, to be fair, there is such an office and they have other more traditional vocational degrees.

However, as you noted, I am not quite sure how that qualifies their MBA or BBA program. I think they might be working to launch a new program and that might be the catalyst for all of this. Organizationally I am not sure what to think, other than to be cautious, yet hopeful.

The class is in person, and I assume they want an hourly rate not because it is paid hourly (though who knows?) but to establish the pay scale (?). Certainly, this is not Harvard, but I am going to see what else I can find about it and definitely proceed carefully. I am looking to get some "real" teaching experience but also don't want to harm my reputation or future opportunities.
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2007, 06:34:34 PM »

What's the hourly rate for a plumber, carpenter, electrician in your area?  That's your rate.  Minimum.

 
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2007, 08:09:21 AM »


 In the ad for the position, which I found on Craigslist, they claim to be "approved by the Bureau for Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education of State of California to offer business administration programs." And, to be fair, there is such an office and they have other more traditional vocational degrees.
 

Just to make the distinction, states can approve college to grant degrees, even if the college is not accredited.  In my state, there is a small art school that gives AA degrees, but which is not accredited.  The big problem is that lack of accreditation from a US Dept of Ed recognized accreditor means the school can't participate in federally backed financial aid programs.  Also, for BSBA and MBA degrees, if the target market is working adults, many companies won't reimburse tuition for classes taken at non-accredited schools.  And if it wasn't for these tuition reimbursement programs, many schools couldn't or wouldn't offer part time business programs.
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