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Author Topic: He lost his job over this email. Would you have said this.  (Read 15189 times)
prytania3
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« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2007, 12:22:49 PM »

It sure sounds like the professor was having a meltdown. I suspect this was a final straw upon other unprofessional acts that sealed his fate.

As a first offense, I'd think firing is a bit much.

I agree. I have a feeling this email was not an isolated event but rather the straw...
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« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2007, 06:57:48 PM »

That e-mail is just downright vicious and unnecessary on so many levels. Great illustration of why we should hold off sending some e-mail replies for at least 24 hours (and proofread them). Just in case they end up getting published in the newspapers and show the world what kind of a writer and a person you are.
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« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2007, 07:22:24 PM »

This from a Kiwi website:

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Scoop understands the student was a United Arab Emirates national and in New Zealand on a student education visa. Scoop also understands the University of Auckland had received a degree of pressure from the student's family's networks that warned: should the University not act on the complaint then the UAE would send fewer students to New Zealand.

To read the whole article, go to

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0708/S00072.htm
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« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2007, 09:28:23 PM »

from http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0708/S00072.htm
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....the student failed to pass any of her courses at the University of Auckland,

The Professor was right after all; maybe she did not belong to graduate program - he was just being bluntly honest with her. Of course he could be more tactful, but oh well... everybody has a bad day.....

He shouldn't have lost his job though, warning should be enough.
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« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2007, 09:33:23 PM »

I don't know. Why would an American study (___________fill in any area of study other than American History).

I get that..it just seemed, out of the ordinary, for a student from the UAE (and, presumably, as a foreign student he will be returning to the UAE upon graduation) to study Latin American History

... in New Zealand.

So he came all the way from UAE to New Zealand to study Latin America?
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« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2007, 10:14:31 PM »

No, I would not have been this blunt with a student. But I had to be very direct last May with a student who missed my classes and his job with me because he was up all night playing World of Warcraft. I told him to delete the game from his computer or don't bother to enroll this fall. Now he's in massage therapy school. Good for him.

Why would a UAE student study Latin Amer. Hist. in NZ? They would study it because, hmm let me think, what do they do a lot in the UAE? Oh yeah, drill for oil! Do they do that in Latin America? Yep, think Citgo and Hugo Chavez. So maybe hu was going to go to a Latin American country to work in the petroleum industry. Why go to NZ? How many English-speaking countries are near the UAE? England? School's are too tough. Australia? Not with recent Muslim problems. NZ may have been last choice. Or it may have been only choice with LAH, geology, chemistry, and business courses that hu needs to get ahead in the petrochemical market in one place at same time.
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« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2007, 11:59:59 PM »

Or maybe the student saw the Lord of the Rings movies, fell in love with the scenery, and since s/he had to live somewhere while going to school, decided it might as well be there.
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« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2007, 01:46:43 AM »

It is often the case that once a few students from a country go to a given school or program, it becomes a common destination for other students from that country.  From the news stories it sounds like the UAE (or some organization there) has some kind of relationship with this school, making it easy for their students to go there.  As for the choice of program, that could simply be the student's choice made after they decided to go to that school.  Many US universities also have foreign students studying something other than US history, American literature, or diplomacy. - DvF
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