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naanmousse
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« Reply #75 on: March 04, 2008, 09:36:51 PM »

I'm posting under a different moniker because my main identity just might be identifiable. I've maintained optimism during the job search for the most part. Tonight though, I feel very discouraged. I know the odds are very slim of finding a permanent position.

I am a finalist, and have a campus visit coming up at the institution where I've been working as a lecturer for a year. I also have a history with the school having TAd here during graduate school. I love the place and like the people - faculty and students - very much. I feel at home here. This is one of two campus visits that resulted from eight preliminary phone/conference interviews.

The preliminary interviews all happened about two/two and a half weeks ago. I was hoping to land more than two campus visits. So far, only two. Sigh.

I am imagining being the runner up for both of the positions. If I am rejected by my current institution, will it mean that I won't be able to renew my 9 month temp position there? Working there as a temp part-timer while the new perm person who got the job starts out there would be painful, but better than unemployment. However, they may not want to keep me on after rejecting me for the perm position.

If I'm unemployed after May, I will probably have to become a temp office worker. I've done it before and know the work environment well. Being a temp office worker, or any kind of office worker for that matter, makes me want to jump off a bridge. Literally. I adamantly do not want to spend any more of my life doing that kind of work, so much so that if given a choice between starvation/homelessness and office work, I would need some time to think about it before choosing.

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eugenides
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« Reply #76 on: March 05, 2008, 08:50:52 PM »

Thursday is coming. It is the golden day of the week.
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naanmousse
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« Reply #77 on: March 06, 2008, 07:44:42 PM »

Did anything special happen for you on Thursday? Not I, sadly.

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« Reply #78 on: March 11, 2008, 06:24:45 PM »

What do you do if you finally get a  tenure-track job offer,
go visit the area, and find you absolutely dislike the area?!!

When I think about this area it depresses me.
But I have no other job offers.

The job is ok, benefits are good,
but the workload is not any better than what I already have.
Other aspects of the job are no better than what I already have.

I have already been in a visiting faculty position for 3 yrs.
Its very likely my position could be extended another year,
but it will never become a tenure track position.

Am I crazy to turn down a tenure track job,
mostly because I could not see myself living in that area EVER,
not even for a short time?

Any sage advice out there?
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gunsgermsandsteel
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« Reply #79 on: March 11, 2008, 06:29:56 PM »

Jobseeker, of course take the TT. Any TT is better than any VAP.
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« Reply #80 on: March 11, 2008, 06:47:53 PM »

What do you do if you finally get a  tenure-track job offer,
go visit the area, and find you absolutely dislike the area?!!

When I think about this area it depresses me.
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Am I crazy to turn down a tenure track job,
mostly because I could not see myself living in that area EVER,
not even for a short time?


Yes, I think you are crazy. Of course, I've now been living in an area I really dislike for 20+ years because, ironically, even though I divorced the spouse who insisted on living in this area, I was still committed to making sure our child had two actively involved parents and as settled a life as possible. (That said, now that she's grown I'm getting ready to bust out of here as soon as possible! )

As others on these fora have said, it's always easier to get a job once you've had one (and by "job" I mean TT). Wanting to relocate after a year, or two or three, is pretty normal and average - and with some good experience you are more likely to have a chance to improve your situation.

You don't mention your field, but it sounds like other offers have not happened in the past, and are not a sure thing now. For most of us, though, GGS is right on - any TT is better than any VAP.
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« Reply #81 on: March 12, 2008, 12:07:24 AM »

Why is Thursday the Golden Day?
Please, let it be true. I need good news this week!
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« Reply #82 on: March 12, 2008, 02:22:25 PM »

I am JUST LIKE you, OP! I am doing a postdoc at the school where I got my PhD (a 1-year pdoc). As it stands, I currently have no job lined up for next year, much less a TT position at Dream U.

The thought of temping or waitressing makes the pipes in the basement seem as if they're calling...and not in a nice "O Danny Boy" sort of way but in a "hang noose HERE" sort of way.

Serious sympathy from me to you.
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« Reply #83 on: March 12, 2008, 04:07:44 PM »

I am JUST LIKE you both, OP and Rodentmind.  Sympathy all round.
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« Reply #84 on: March 13, 2008, 02:40:16 PM »

I am JUST LIKE you both, OP and Rodentmind.  Sympathy all round.

Well, we've joked about sharing a job. Maybe we can let OP in, make it a threeway.
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« Reply #85 on: March 13, 2008, 03:46:22 PM »

I am JUST LIKE you both, OP and Rodentmind.  Sympathy all round.

Well, we've joked about sharing a job. Maybe we can let OP in, make it a threeway.

Wild! 
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« Reply #86 on: March 13, 2008, 03:48:39 PM »

If a threesome of forumites takes place and nobody is there to film it, does it really count?
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« Reply #87 on: March 13, 2008, 03:51:27 PM »

Oh, we'll film it.
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« Reply #88 on: March 13, 2008, 04:13:44 PM »

Oh, we'll film it.

Blair Witch Job Search.   It will be a mega-hit.  I promise.
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« Reply #89 on: March 13, 2008, 04:16:15 PM »

Oh, we'll film it.

Blair Witch Job Search.   It will be a mega-hit.  I promise.

So, at the end of the film, are the job-seekers alive or murdered?
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