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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2007, 05:02:30 PM » |
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refused even to say Paris Hilton's name, and pointed this out publicly in an interview with Oprah Winfrey. How? - DvF |
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2007, 05:04:20 PM » |
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refused even to say Paris Hilton's name, and pointed this out publicly in an interview with Oprah Winfrey. How? - DvF I won;t talk about the starlet who carries the name of a hotel in the capital of france. That would seem to work. |
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2007, 07:37:04 PM » |
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refused even to say Paris Hilton's name, and pointed this out publicly in an interview with Oprah Winfrey. How? - DvF I won;t talk about the starlet who carries the name of a hotel in the capital of france. That would seem to work. I guess the 7th graders in the audience would find this amusing rather than petulant. - DvF |
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2007, 08:12:43 PM » |
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This is reminiscent of Mika Brzezinski's refusal to report the Paris Hilton story. Of course, what was really irritating about that was the attitude of her male co-anchors, who seemed to find her anger amusing. (Because gurl + anger= humour!)
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2007, 08:37:00 AM » |
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I dunno. It looks a bit like:
"Harmless, lighthearted lifestyle/entertainment news" = pop culture stuff I like or am interested in.
"Trash or fluff beneath my attention" = pop culture stuff I don't like or am not interested in.
"Alberto Gonzales questioned by Capitol Hill" = dowdy, political mumbo-jumbo I am totally not interested in. "War deaths in Iraq" = awful, sad news that I wish they didn't cover; why can't they report happy news. It goes both ways, and it is a delicate, arguable balance. I think they over-reported about iPhone and Harry Potter, with plenty of hype and promotion thrown in. I find the iPhone marignally interesting and Harry Potter not at all, but I can see what relevance is, other than pure sycophant drama. I'll give an example of this delicate balance. Paris Hilton going to jail is unworthy drivel that should not be reported since it is no more significant than anyone else being arrested for DUI and going to jail, which is not reported. Such reports should be limited to celebrity "news" shows for those who specifically want this information, leaving the journalistic airwaves open to more publicly relevant news. On the other than Paris Hilton being let out of jail early is worth of reporting in general news because it brings to question how individuals of status are treated by our judicial system. |
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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2007, 08:38:48 AM » |
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refused even to say Paris Hilton's name, and pointed this out publicly in an interview with Oprah Winfrey. How? - DvF He'd refer to her only as that woman when a picture was shown or when noted in an interview. In fact, I understand that after he relented and reported on her after she was let out of prison early, he still didn't say her name. |
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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2007, 09:07:48 AM » |
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refused even to say Paris Hilton's name, and pointed this out publicly in an interview with Oprah Winfrey. How? - DvF He'd refer to her only as that woman when a picture was shown or when noted in an interview. In fact, I understand that after he relented and reported on her after she was let out of prison early, he still didn't say her name. But he had to say something! What did he say? |
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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2007, 10:36:16 AM » |
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"The News" is no longer about telling people what happened in the world, it is about selling advertising and building the brand. CNN, MSNBC, Foxnews, and the old folks CBS, ABC, and NBC are all in competition with each other for viewers. They will put anything on the air that they feel like will bring them more viewers. If they feel like the public wants to see more Paris Hilton, well hey, we'll show them more Paris Hilton. The part I find most amusing is that they compete with each other by becoming more like each other. OJ Simpson, JonBenet Ramsey, Elizabeth Smart, Scott Peterson, Natalee Holloway, VTech shooter's manifesto, the list goes on. One of the media outlets gets a hot story, and within minutes everybody else is showing it.
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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2007, 10:45:47 AM » |
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I have fallen deeply in love with George Clooney, Don Cheadle, and Steven Speilberg and I can't hear enough about them right now. George Clooney and Don Cheadle are speaking with Annan about Darfur. Steven Speilberg is pressuring China to put sanctions on Sudan. This is the celebrity news I want to hear. More! MORE! Hear hear! Though I don't hold out much hope for the Chinese. |
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Fortune favors the bold. Excellent analysis by Normative. All hail Normie! Normative, that was superb. |
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2007, 06:50:00 AM » |
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Bono is saving the world, too! Haven't heard as much about him lately. I have fallen deeply in love with George Clooney, Don Cheadle, and Steven Speilberg and I can't hear enough about them right now. George Clooney and Don Cheadle are speaking with Annan about Darfur. Steven Speilberg is pressuring China to put sanctions on Sudan. This is the celebrity news I want to hear. More! MORE! |
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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2007, 11:13:40 AM » |
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Not a single person on the planet is saving the world. It is a group effort.Bono is saving the world, too! Haven't heard as much about him lately. I have fallen deeply in love with George Clooney, Don Cheadle, and Steven Speilberg and I can't hear enough about them right now. George Clooney and Don Cheadle are speaking with Annan about Darfur. Steven Speilberg is pressuring China to put sanctions on Sudan. This is the celebrity news I want to hear. More! MORE! |
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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2007, 11:17:05 AM » |
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Not a single person on the planet is saving the world.
It is a group effort.
Crap. Groupwork? We're doomed! |
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« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2007, 11:23:00 AM » |
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Plus, when your kids say "who's she?" you get a great chance to talk about:
1. growing up too fast
2. having too much money
3. why kids really do need parents and other people who can say "no" to them
4. why drugs and alcohol are bad
5. why being too skinny is unhealthy
etc. etc. etc.
As a parent, I find value in these cautionary tales. I do. My daughter is too young, but my son, at 10, is the perfect age. It was amazing to watch him go from "wow, she's pretty" to "oh, how sad".
Now, whether these stories belong on real news shows is another question. Good for that anchor for drawing the line.
Yeah, but if Paris Hilton's DUI is a cautionary tale, so is the NASA astronaut's spacecraft DUI or the nutty astronaut love triangle. As go reality tv celebs so go American icons. The Louisiana Senator who cheats on his wife of 20 years with the DC Madam is a pretty good cautionary tale about people who get married for the sake of family values images. |
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