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Ah, not so much academic, but since leaving the UK, I would ALMOST consider moving back for Have I got News for You and the Times Higher Tuesday supplement. *sigh*.
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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2007, 10:12:31 PM » |
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Ah, not so much academic, but since leaving the UK, I would ALMOST consider moving back for Have I got News for You and the Times Higher Tuesday supplement. *sigh*.
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Expatinuk seems to be a Soviet Satellite in stationary orbit over the UK
It is what it is.
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2007, 02:13:25 AM » |
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And the Times Higher is now a separate entity to which one must subscribe...
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It's not procrastination. It's "just in time" delivery.
Nutso is the new normal.
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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2007, 02:17:09 AM » |
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And the Times Higher is now a separate entity to which one must subscribe...
And it's NOT cheap! |
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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2007, 02:28:24 AM » |
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And the Times Higher is now a separate entity to which one must subscribe...
And it's NOT cheap! You also can't do an online only subscription in the UK, which is a shame. |
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*Grad student, so please take with a pinch of salt.
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2008, 12:03:42 PM » |
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Interesting article but not my experience.
I did get to £50k with my promotion to Prof - but in 2007 not 2006.
I teach more than 1 module per year.
I teach 12 weeks, not 10, per semester.
We have no automatic entitlement to study leave - let alone a semester off every 3-4 years.
As I've posted earlier in this thread, there are a lot of advantages to working in the UK (no George Bush, for example). But, I don't think the description on that blog is anywhere near universal.
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2008, 02:10:03 PM » |
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I suppose this does, then, depend on where you are, SE. While I don't teach only one module a year (I teach four---a 2/2), as I said earlier in the thread, this is a very light load indeed. More like a US 1/1. So yeah, not quite like the blog entry, but the general point holds.
I do, on the other hand, get a semester's leave every 3 years, basically as a matter of course.
As for salary, mine, like I posted earlier, is quite competitive.
So, at least for me (and I now understand that not all places must be like this), the blog does pretty much describe my experience here.
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2008, 02:24:54 PM » |
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Perhaps the difference, SE, is between pre- and post- 92s? Do I remember correctly that you're at a post-92? The poster is certainly at a pre- (as am I), and I've gathered that this can make a very big difference in all sorts of ways.
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2008, 02:27:38 PM » |
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EWI, can I ask what general field you're in?
With my promotion to professor I'm now possibly in a bargaining position but, even in science, there wouldn't have been much, if any, room for a bigger salary at a lower level.
My teaching load is comparable to yours but I'm not at a "research intensive" and don't have the other perks. I am at a pre-92, however. (Expatinuk is at a post-92.)
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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2008, 02:46:12 PM » |
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I'm in a social science field, totally oversupplied with great job candidates. So, no bargaining power in our field at all. My department is, though, one of the very best in its area in the UK and I *am* at a research intensive university, though, so perhaps these are part of the difference.
Okay, so I guess one has to admit that there's variation across the UK, which is, of course, unsurprising, and no different from the US. Basically, how good things are will be to a large degree a function of the university and department. And this will probably be more important than whether the department/uni happens to be in the UK or the US.
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