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[hollow_man]

How far should you go back in your list of awards. I have a list of undergraduate awards, but I'm not sure if I should include them?

I included mine.

[sweetbeans]

A CV question (I searched but could not find an answer)?

If you have defended but not yet graduated, how should you (or should you) list this information on your CV?

Thank you!

[doctorious]

[soapbox]

Ok, I'm so over the staple comments that I want to finally share what I do with materials. A mentor suggested the following, and I have "obeyed" with favorable results.

1. Make sure your name is on each page of anything you send. Easy enough to do with Word these days.
2. On fabulous white linen resume paper, I print all primary documents and staple anything with 2+ pages.
3. Compilation of packet:
     a. Right side: originals
     b. Left side: copies of originals on plain paper, with a cover page on that side with the title "Materials for Committee Photocopying" (seriously)

I've never heard complaints, only comments from SC's about how professional the package looks and how easy it was to use.

I generally have not been asked to send writing samples, syllabi, etc. until after the first round, so this idea has worked nicely for me.

But I won't need to use it next year!....

Long live the staple!!!  But seriously, the most important things are to be 1) clear, 2) consistent, 3) factual, 4) thorough, and 5) make the package SC-friendly.

[/soap box]

Now that I just sent off my CV and application materials for a TT Business Intructor job at a SoCal CC I am catching up on this thread (gulp?!). Fortunately, I think I am on the right side of the law as far as I can tell. I just wanted to add that when I sent my packet out I did something similar re: versions for copying, but instead of physical copies, I burned a CD with PDFs of all of the documents I had printed on the white linen paper (which I literally had one sheet left of once everything had printed out -- after what seemed like 100 last minute fixes and reprints). I referenced the CD in my cover letter and then put a sticky note on the CD envelope. Anyway, I consider this my first *real* job submission so cross your fingers. My goal is to at least get an interview.

[bethafin]

Do not provide a mixed list of "Publications and Conference Presentations" even if you have only two of each.

In some disciplines, double blind peer-reviewed conferences are considered equivalent to journal publications. I am not sure that the dictinction in those disciplines is meaningful or necessary.

"Relying on journal publications as the sole demonstration of scholarly achievement, especially counting such publications to determine whether they exceed a prescribed threshold, ignores significant evidence of accomplishment in computer science and engineering. For example, conference publication is preferred in the field, and computational artifacts —software, chips, etc. —are a tangible means of conveying ideas and insight. " (from http://www.cra.org/reports/tenure_review.pdf)

Ethan

[sciencephd]

Here's one: particularly if you a small number of journal articles, say, 3, do not list a whole bunch more as "manuscript in preparation", unless there is a version that you are willing to include with the application.  It just looks silly.

[bacardiandlime]

I don't list any articles as 'in preparation' or 'in progress' (after all, don't we ALL have various articles at some stage of production? ;)

But what's the consensus on including articles that are under submission?

Do you list which journals they have been submitted to?

What about including the date ('submitted x/x/2008 to the Journal of Important Stuff')?

I've received mixed opinions on doing this.

[sciencephd]

I don't list any articles as 'in preparation' or 'in progress' (after all, don't we ALL have various articles at some stage of production? ;)

But what's the consensus on including articles that are under submission?

Do you list which journals they have been submitted to?

What about including the date ('submitted x/x/2008 to the Journal of Important Stuff')?

I've received mixed opinions on doing this.

I would list them as submitted, without specifying the journal.  Until the manuscript is accepted, the journal seems irrelevant to the CV, especially in the context of the fact that the acceptance rate for many journals is well under 50%.

[chaud]

I agree. I don't list which journal until it's accepted. I'd be embarrassed if it was later rejected.

[castafiore]

I don't think the journal you've submitted it to is necessarily irrelevant... I think that it could make a difference to an SC to know you have a piece you think was good enough to submit to one of the top journals in your field. If you sent it to regional minor-league journal, agreed, no need to mention.

[doctorious]

I have a question about a "potential" stupid CV trick: I just discovered that a paper I wrote in 2003 was cited as a reference in a book called "MBA In A Day: What You Would Learn At Top-Tier Business Schools (If You Only Had The Time!)." Is this something I could add to my CV? I don't know which part of my paper was cited or if it was just a general reference (I don't have the book).

[untenured]

I have a question about a "potential" stupid CV trick: I just discovered that a paper I wrote in 2003 was cited as a reference in a book called "MBA In A Day: What You Would Learn At Top-Tier Business Schools (If You Only Had The Time!)." Is this something I could add to my CV? I don't know which part of my paper was cited or if it was just a general reference (I don't have the book).

I've thought about this too.  Unless the citation was truly prominent, I would leave it off the CV.  If you place one citation like this on the CV you have to do the same for all of your works, lest the reader think that the "MBA in a Day" book is the only citation you have.  Also, if the perceives the citation as weak, then you paper is also discredited.

Best to not even go there unless you are cited consistently by high quality sources.

Untenured

[doctorious]

I have a question about a "potential" stupid CV trick: I just discovered that a paper I wrote in 2003 was cited as a reference in a book called "MBA In A Day: What You Would Learn At Top-Tier Business Schools (If You Only Had The Time!)." Is this something I could add to my CV? I don't know which part of my paper was cited or if it was just a general reference (I don't have the book).

I've thought about this too.  Unless the citation was truly prominent, I would leave it off the CV.  If you place one citation like this on the CV you have to do the same for all of your works, lest the reader think that the "MBA in a Day" book is the only citation you have.  Also, if the perceives the citation as weak, then you paper is also discredited.

Best to not even go there unless you are cited consistently by high quality sources.

Untenured

Now I need another aspirin. ;) I have to say that this is the first time I discovered this and it feels, in the words of Stewie Griffin, "cool, man."

[toadman]

Generative:
Google the title of the book, and see if you can find yourself in google's online book repository--the title you mentioned is in there.

[doctorious]

Generative:
Google the title of the book, and see if you can find yourself in google's online book repository--the title you mentioned is in there.

That's actually how I found the reference -- and fortunately the chapter in which it is listed as a reference is included, but I did not find any direct citations.

[zombie]

Is this a stupid CV trick?:

I finished my PhD last year.  But, when I was pursuing my BA, I was published in two poetry books & a small, local magazine.  Do I list those publications under pubs, even though it was, cough, a little while ago?  (1992-1993.)

It's relevant, I think, to show my poetry experience, which is not very reflected on the current CV because I've been busy with scholarly stuff and haven't submitted poetry in forever.  But it may look like a Stupid CV trick.