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« Reply #135 on: January 30, 2008, 11:40:21 AM » |
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Have you provided a link to the article? Does it specifically mention the race/religion of the authors?
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acrimone
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« Reply #136 on: January 30, 2008, 11:59:51 AM » |
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I disagree. Morehouse and Howard are strong institutions in terms of student preparation and the quality of faculty.
Maybe. But Howard's law school is considered a bit of a joke. |
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« Reply #137 on: January 30, 2008, 12:27:55 PM » |
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I disagree. Morehouse and Howard are strong institutions in terms of student preparation and the quality of faculty.
Maybe. But Howard's law school is considered a bit of a joke. Sad to report but all of Howard is considered a bit of a joke as are many an HBCU. Sad to report. Jonesey, I'll get back with you. |
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« Reply #138 on: January 30, 2008, 12:32:28 PM » |
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I'm sitting here looking at a grad student who works for me with a Howard B.A. She doesn't consider the school a joke.
But I understand where you are coming from. To me, Yale is a joke.
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acrimone
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« Reply #139 on: January 30, 2008, 12:36:50 PM » |
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I'm sitting here looking at a grad student who works for me with a Howard B.A. She doesn't consider the school a joke.
But I understand where you are coming from. To me, Yale is a joke.
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« Reply #140 on: January 30, 2008, 03:12:47 PM » |
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Howard's allied health programs are generally considered poor by my colleagues, although they do not have a program in my area. Spellman ugrads seem to be well equipped.
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« Reply #141 on: January 30, 2008, 05:27:50 PM » |
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Howard's allied health programs are generally considered poor by my colleagues, although they do not have a program in my area. Spellman ugrads seem to be well equipped.
OK, I'll bite. Well-equipped with what? |
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« Reply #142 on: January 31, 2008, 08:21:29 AM » |
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Howard's allied health programs are generally considered poor by my colleagues, although they do not have a program in my area. Spellman ugrads seem to be well equipped.
OK, I'll bite. Well-equipped with what? Ha! I had the same question about the thread in "Mid-Career" called "Endowed Chair"... Just how are they endowed??? |
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« Reply #143 on: January 31, 2008, 11:09:39 AM » |
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Howard's allied health programs are generally considered poor by my colleagues, although they do not have a program in my area. Spellman ugrads seem to be well equipped.
OK, I'll bite. Well-equipped with what? Equipped with a respect for scholarship and teachers, a good work ethic, literacy, critical thinking habits, competent writing, and pleasant, courteous demeanor. How do your students compare? |
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« Reply #144 on: February 01, 2008, 01:50:26 PM » |
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OK, I'll bite. Well-equipped with what?
Equipped with a respect for scholarship and teachers, a good work ethic, literacy, critical thinking habits, competent writing, and pleasant, courteous demeanor. How do your students compare? [/quote] I meant to disrespect to HBCUs. As I work primarily with first semester and developmental level students, I rarely experience the delight of seeing them grow into the student you've described, although that is the ultimate goal for all students in all academic settings. |
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« Reply #145 on: February 01, 2008, 01:51:36 PM » |
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Sorry about the above post. My effort at quotation fell short, affecting readability.
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sheinthespirit
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« Reply #146 on: February 06, 2008, 11:38:13 PM » |
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I have dreams of working at an HBCU. I spent some time teaching at one (research centered) and have to say that my students were proactive, articulate, and centered. Each student felt that his/her purpose was to make a difference in the world. Now, that is about 10 years ago.
Fast forward to my real academic career at predom. White institutions. Very different. Some students are just there and don't want to be counted as a productive member of society. I deal with a great deal of bad manners and disrespect, so much so that I have threatened to report them to the Dean of Students if their behavior crosses the line. Moreover, I deal with a great deal of privileged behaviors, as if the world owes these students something.
And who defines a joke? Were we not all taught in grad school that when one makes a claim, it should have warrant? Hearsay? Joke? Seriously. Free your mind of its hegemonic chains..
I have not read the entire thread, but hope that we can move forward from the problems with HBCU's and realize that there is a GENERATIONAL problem with students. AND while there are many problems with HBCU's there are equally as many problems with higher education across the board.
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