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Holy cow! My goodness, your colleague is obviously married to someone who is dumber than a bag of hammers. Also, someone who is attempting to make the little woman's silly research partner perform. AND who is stupid enough to chat with the chair about his manliness in telling you what to do as well as copying the chair on the email that whipped you into shape.
I'd finish the project on your time schedule, especially since it's going to reflect on your tenure case as well. Also, document every little bit of what you do vs. what the collaborator does (or fails to do). Then, never work on anything with her ever again, on the off chance she gets tenure. Smile sweetly at her in the hallway and ignore her forevermore.
The more likely scenario, however, is that she will not get tenure. In which case, if you are feeling magnaminous, you might let her have your old moving boxes if they are still around. Wave cheerfully to her from your office doorway as she wanders away to obscurity. And perhaps try to see to it that her idiot husband never gets adjuncting work there again.
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« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2007, 04:50:42 PM » |
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Personally, if you don't have a professional relationship with the spouse, then I wouldn't even have responded to the email.
Well, the two of them went with my chair and spouse and my husband and me to a couple conferences (they were in Hawaii!) and had dinner at private homes once or twice. I would not call it a friendship, really, but we have been more than just colleagues in passing. The email came from out of the blue, as he had always been very pleasant to me. One thought that my hubby had was that maybe he was trying to create a paper trail in case my colleague does not get tenure -- in other words, a bit of blame-shifting. Funny followup -- I got a call from HIM (not her) just last week asking for help troubleshooting his computer....got balls?! |
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« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2007, 09:45:24 PM » |
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I can't possibly be the only one who would consider dragging my feet on the co-authored article in order to be passive-aggressive and b*tchy about this, right?
Note: I'm not saying that I WOULD, but I can't be the only person whose mind these thoughts have crossed.
In real life, I would be super-pissed at spouse, especially since he sounds like he's trying to manipulate the OP into taking on a burden that clearly doesn't belong to her. I get that he's probably trying to protect his wife and family, but this is so far outside of appropriate in my universe that I have a hard time sympathizing, except to sympathize with the about-to-be-denied tenture faculty member for her choice of spouse.
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« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2007, 09:49:48 PM » |
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I can't possibly be the only one who would consider dragging my feet on the co-authored article in order to be passive-aggressive and b*tchy about this, right?
Note: I'm not saying that I WOULD, but I can't be the only person whose mind these thoughts have crossed.
Of course not. And, no matter how magnanimous I was feeling, I'd probably be so ticked off that I couldn't focus on the project for a few days anyway, so regardless of my intentions, this e-mail would have slowed me down. |
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« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2007, 10:35:49 PM » |
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One thought that my hubby had was that maybe he was trying to create a paper trail in case my colleague does not get tenure -- in other words, a bit of blame-shifting.
Good lord. On top of all the rest of this nonsense and utter chutzpah, can you imagine including a note from a spouse in a tenure appeal!? The mind positively boggles. |
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« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2007, 07:43:27 AM » |
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One thought that my hubby had was that maybe he was trying to create a paper trail in case my colleague does not get tenure -- in other words, a bit of blame-shifting.
Good lord. On top of all the rest of this nonsense and utter chutzpah, can you imagine including a note from a spouse in a tenure appeal!? The mind positively boggles. That is crazy! OP, do you mind if we have a bit of fun imagining what this letter would look like? Dear People who denied me tenure, I was working hard and publishing excellent work. I decided to collaborate with a colleague. I invited her to work on my project and even offered her lead authorship in exchange for her efforts. I did my part and was ready to turn to the next project, but my colleague was unable to do her work. She missed deadlines and did not do anything. With much effort, I got the first paper published. In my final year on the tenure track, I tried to get her to complete the second paper. It took much of my time and energy to help her and teach her the things she needed to know so she could do her part. Not only did she not give our project her full attention, she used what I taught her to complete other projects and gave me none of the credit. I should get credit for this project, and for all of the other projects I helped my colleague with during my time here. Even after my husband sent her messages instructing her to act more quickly, she did not perform adequately. Also, I talkled to the Chair of the department about his book. He used my idea about how to order some of the chapters and read an article I gave him and said it was useful. Imagine my disappointment when he did not include me as an author on that textbook. If I had received credit on all the papers my colleague did, if my colleague had finished the second paper she agreed to finish, and if my chair had given me credit for my work on his book, I would have gotten tenure with no trouble. Therefore, I encourage you to overturn this decision and give me the tenure I deserve. Sincerely, Dr. Leechy |
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« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2007, 08:00:36 AM » |
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Can't help myself; I must ask. For what law firm does/did Monsieur X work? And he is (or used to be) a litigator, right?
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« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2007, 09:01:54 AM » |
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I find this a bit weird from another persepctive, too.
When I have been invited to collaborate on what is primarily someone else's project (I have not had the balls to invite myself into anyhting), I have always figured my acceptance does not make me the other person's boss!
I accept going in that I will make the best contribution I can, knowing that factors beyond my control may make it all come to naught. If there seems to be a high likelihood that the project will not succeed or get published (on my timeline or at all), then it's on me to sniff that out and say "no thanks".
I have asked collaborators how it's going, but that's it! If it is primarily their project, then they are in charge.
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« Reply #38 on: May 11, 2007, 01:51:17 PM » |
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Can't help myself; I must ask. For what law firm does/did Monsieur X work? And he is (or used to be) a litigator, right?
Former military. Navy, I believe. Edit: Just giggling too at the letter to the deniers. :) I needed that today...thanks! |
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« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2007, 03:40:39 PM » |
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This is a fascinating story.
My only comment is that when you don't know what to write to answer something, just don't answer it. That saves you a lot of time and emotional energy, and often sends (or leaves) the grief back in their court.
Also, there's something saintly and rising-above-it-all in simply not answering. I think there was an Oscar Wilde character (well, should've been Oscar Wilde) who said, "What you need is to be--more condescending."
Silence is condescending, saintly, and breath-saving.
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« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2007, 06:49:11 PM » |
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I on the other hand think it is time to humiliate them both.
You should never contact your colleague again, and only email the spouse. Treat the spouse as if he was your colleague's secretary, but with much more disdain than you would ever treat a real secretary.
Adopt the conceit that you assumed that the email was written by him, because she delegated it to him and has more important things to do.
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« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2007, 07:36:18 PM » |
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Ummm...I love that last one. Pure Dark Side.
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« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2007, 06:12:05 AM » |
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Just because you receive an email doesn't mean you have to reply to it.
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« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2007, 11:13:38 AM » |
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Just because you receive an email doesn't mean you have to reply to it.
Right. When I get emails that knock me for a loop (and I get, on average, four of those a day. It's fun being chair.), I gauge my emotio-reader. If I'm in The Red Zone, I wait 24 hours to reply. If the emotio-reader remains in or near The Red Zone in 24 hours later, I wait another 24 hours. I have some emails I haven't responded to in 19 months. Colleague will not be your colleague soon; Monsieur X sounds as though he won't be adjuncting either. You will be rid of them in several months. Do your work (though, like dr_crankypants, the email would have flummoxed me enough to have lost several days, nay, verily, weeks of concentration on the article) but ignore these folks from here on out. |
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« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2007, 11:18:14 AM » |
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I have some emails I haven't responded to in 19 months.
Thank God I'm not the only one that does this... |
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