larryc
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Eschew the hu.
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« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2007, 08:13:09 PM » |
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Someone suggested she/he/it (s/h/it) instead of hu.
Hu is dying out anyway. Kudzu is still going strong.
Or just take a friggin' minute to think about your sentence construction: "Dear Forumites: One of my colleagues, whose gender I don't to reveal for some obscure reason, has been making my life a living hell. First my colleague forgot to erase the chalkboard, and then this person left the toilet seat in the wrong position, and finally my bothersome coworker made fun of my attempt to construct a gender-neutral language! What should I do about this wretch?" Each of the bolded passages could have been written as "hu" but what is the need? |
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« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2007, 08:14:56 PM » |
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Someone suggested she/he/it (s/h/it) instead of hu.
Hu is dying out anyway. Kudzu is still going strong.
eh, why bother with all those slashes (which I hate more than hu): sheit works well, and has a potentially useful double meaning. I kinda like sheit. With my hillbilly accent, it sounds like what I say when I step in it. Uh huh! That's the beauty, and it is great for those times when you really have trouble believing that this particular sheit is your colleague! |
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« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2007, 08:15:52 PM » |
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I don't require my students to hu. But I do suggest it to my best ones.
Regarding Wikipedia, I thought there was an entry on hu. Looking at it more closely, I realized I had just completely misunderstood the entry on "Hu Shih". (j/k)
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"My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music." Vladimir Nabokov
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« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2007, 08:20:33 PM » |
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From wikipedia:
Hu or hu may refer to:
Hu (mythology), the deification of the first word, in the Egyptian mythology of the Ennead
Huh (god), the deification of eternity in the Egyptian mythology of the Ogdoad
Hu (surname), a Chinese family name represented by the character 胡.
Hù is also an abbreviation for Shanghai, People's Republic of China.
Hu state or Hu Guo, former state of China
Wu Hu, the barbaric tribes surrounding ancient China.
Hu Jintao, the current president of People's Republic of China.
The Hungarian language (ISO 639 alpha-2, hu)
Hu is a breed of sheep
A romanisation of the Japanese kana ふ and フ (more commonly romanised as 'fu')
The abbreviation HU for Hounsfield Units on the Hounsfield scale, a unit of measurement used on a computed tomography machine (CAT)
The web domain name .hu
A mantra (similar to Aum or Om) popularized[1] by the religion Eckankar as a name for and love song to God
Adir Hu
I am Hu!
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SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES. NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS
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« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2007, 08:26:27 PM » |
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Hu or hu may refer to:
Hu (mythology), the deification of the first word, in the Egyptian mythology of the Ennead
Huh (god), the deification of eternity in the Egyptian mythology of the Ogdoad
Hu (surname), a Chinese family name represented by the character 胡.
Hù is also an abbreviation for Shanghai, People's Republic of China.
Hu state or Hu Guo, former state of China
Wu Hu, the barbaric tribes surrounding ancient China.
Hu Jintao, the current president of People's Republic of China.
The Hungarian language (ISO 639 alpha-2, hu)
Hu is a breed of sheep
A romanisation of the Japanese kana ふ and フ (more commonly romanised as 'fu')
The abbreviation HU for Hounsfield Units on the Hounsfield scale, a unit of measurement used on a computed tomography machine (CAT)
The web domain name .hu
A mantra (similar to Aum or Om) popularized[1] by the religion Eckankar as a name for and love song to God
Adir Hu
Hu, A gender neutral pronoun proposed by academics. The plural is hus.
See the above line. I have not yet pressed save. Who needs to be cited?
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SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES. NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS
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« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2007, 08:34:28 PM » |
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Now, we are back to all texts excluding women. [...] If you don't like hu, don't use it! No, we are not "back to" texts excluding women. The point is that, in some contexts, the pronoun "he" is correctly used in reference to people, in general -- just as "man" can be used to mean mankind, all genders included. As for your suggestion that those of us who don't like "hu" are free to not use it, well, you are right, of course. I, for one, do not use it. However, if I want to continue to participate in the discussions here, I have to read posts using it. Doing so slows me down, they are difficult to read, and "hu" always distracts me at least somewhat from whatever the posters thought they were trying to say. |
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drsyn
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« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2007, 08:39:52 PM » |
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Now, we are back to all texts excluding women. [...] If you don't like hu, don't use it! No, we are not "back to" texts excluding women. The point is that, in some contexts, the pronoun "he" is correctly used in reference to people, in general -- just as "man" can be used to mean mankind, all genders included. Bulls***. That has never been true. And this is not a snark. When men talk about mankind, they are only talking about themselves. |
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adhoc
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« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2007, 08:42:11 PM » |
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One of my colleagues, whose gender I don't to reveal [...] Each of the bolded passages could have been written as "hu" but what is the need? Of course, then the reader would be left to ponder hu whose gender ... |
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« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2007, 08:46:57 PM » |
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And this is not a snark. I didn't take it as a snark, I assumed it was intended to be a joke. |
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« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2007, 08:51:22 PM » |
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Someone must have a bet on somewhere that they can get the word "hu" to appear in this forum 10,000 times over the course of a year and is planting these threads.
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« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2007, 08:51:51 PM » |
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Can't we all just get along?
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« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2007, 08:54:43 PM » |
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And this is not a snark. I didn't take it as a snark, I assumed it was intended to be a joke. Fighting for gender equality is a joke to you. |
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larryc
Hu hatin'
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Eschew the hu.
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« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2007, 08:57:24 PM » |
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Now, we are back to all texts excluding women. [...] If you don't like hu, don't use it! No, we are not "back to" texts excluding women. The point is that, in some contexts, the pronoun "he" is correctly used in reference to people, in general -- just as "man" can be used to mean mankind, all genders included. Bulls***. That has never been true. And this is not a snark. When men talk about mankind, they are only talking about themselves. I agree with this, and I support the use of gender neutral language. Fortunately we don't have to make up silly new words to do it. |
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« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2007, 08:59:55 PM » |
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I think I'm going to start using Vietnamese pronouns. They are specific to sex, age, familial relationship, and social status of the speaker and the spoken about.
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« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2007, 09:07:47 PM » |
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Hu or hu may refer to:
Hu (mythology), the deification of the first word, in the Egyptian mythology of the Ennead
Huh (god), the deification of eternity in the Egyptian mythology of the Ogdoad
Hu (surname), a Chinese family name represented by the character ?.
Hù is also an abbreviation for Shanghai, People's Republic of China.
Hu state or Hu Guo, former state of China
Wu Hu, the barbaric tribes surrounding ancient China.
Hu Jintao, the current president of People's Republic of China.
The Hungarian language (ISO 639 alpha-2, hu)
Hu is a breed of sheep
A romanisation of the Japanese kana ? and ? (more commonly romanised as 'fu')
The abbreviation HU for Hounsfield Units on the Hounsfield scale, a unit of measurement used on a computed tomography machine (CAT)
The web domain name .hu
A mantra (similar to Aum or Om) popularized[1] by the religion Eckankar as a name for and love song to God
Adir Hu
Hu, A gender neutral pronoun proposed by academics. The plural is hus.
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I disagree about "hus" as plural. Check this out: http://www.hupronoun.org/We humbly submit a new word to fill this void: "hu", a third person singular, non gender-specific pronoun. Its variants include "hus" [I prefer "hux"], "hume", and "huself". cbl |
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As always, CBL rules! All hail the CBL!
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