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[francishamit]

Yellowtractor:

I don't check this daily.  I magpie blog lots of places other than here.  And I'm having trouble with my eyes again.  (Recent surgery).

So, yeah.  II days.  I'm not on the clock.

[femaestro]

There is a right amount of attention to pay to diversity; we have exceeded it.

The best time to close the door is immediately after I am safely inside.  Some people would say "after my group is safely inside," but I know I'm not part of any group.

If I am unqualified, the best time to close the door is when I'm knocking on it.

OH PLEASE!!!! You are completely blind if you think that the reason tuition is going up and scholarships are made available is because of the "non-white-male" outreach.  Most poor people in this country are white, because most people in this country are white.  Get a clue, do some research and realize that diversity is not just "cool", it is responsible.  If you are angry because you assume that the people who are brown or foreign born are less qualified than you, I suggest a narcissistic analysis.  All of the brown people I know in higher-ed and other elitist areas of concern are just as qualified as their white counterparts.  We cannot have a country where we do not educate as many people as possible, otherwise we are doomed - we are one country and one people, not just a group of socially constructed races. 

[rear_view_mirror]

RE:
"OH PLEASE!!!! You are completely blind if you think that the reason tuition is going up and scholarships are made available is because of the "non-white-male" outreach.  Most poor people in this country are white, because most people in this country are white.  Get a clue, do some research and realize that diversity is not just "cool", it is responsible.  If you are angry because you assume that the people who are brown or foreign born are less qualified than you, I suggest a narcissistic analysis.  All of the brown people I know in higher-ed and other elitist areas of concern are just as qualified as their white counterparts.  We cannot have a country where we do not educate as many people as possible, otherwise we are doomed - we are one country and one people, not just a group of socially constructed races."

OK thank you. I think that tuition does not go up because of one thing, but because of many things, and the beurocracracies of academe are silimar to those in government in that once an office and staff are created, they don't go away, even when most of their work is essentially done, because there are people with real needs making a living from them. So it's fair to say I'm a fiscal conservative. There are areas in which I think money is being wasted. Probably quite a few others.
I don't assume that people who are brown or foreign born are less qualified than I. Incorrect inference. You don't even know my race.
I said that diversity happens withour our obsessing over it. It's a good thing, but it has been elevated to a place in our priorities that is not really warranted.

[artsprof2]

White men discriminated against?
Not this white man.

My wife (african american) has one less degree then I (not that this fact is physically apparent) between us I think we have 5.

We are in our late 30's- and often lecture together at other universities.

Without fail, the following six 'indignities'  occur at every lecture we give jointly at universities.
(we both have a secret bingo card and mark them off as they happen-- when one of us gets Bingo we hold hands)

1) Incessant talking during her lecture, silence during mine
2) Question and Answer time: Questions directed to me, rarely to her unless it is about race.
3) Often she is not introduced, If she is, I am always introduced first.
4) When we arrive, she is treated as my "student aide."
5) By professors and students, I am called by my last name, she my her first.
6) I am rarely, if ever asked for ID when I enter the campus, she is always asked for ID.

I can understand why many white males think that they are under attack... most white males do not live in interracial relationships and do not see or are not aware (because they are majority culture) how ingrained white supremacy is in our society.

[larryc]

Excellent post, TJOdonnel2, and welcome to the forum. Have you thought of writing up your experiences as a First Person column for the Chronicle?

[joey_fan]

Wow, I haven't looked on these forums for quite some time. Interesting post, TJ.

[fruupp]

White men discriminated against?

You tell me.

On two occasions--during telephone interviews--I was asked if I was black. (I'm not).
On a third occasion I flew cross-country for an on-campus interview,
only to be told by the search Chair, "We thought from your CV that you were black!"  (Nope, still white).

For some inexplicable reason, the position announcement in each case neglected to mention that "white males need NOT apply." Hmmm, I wonder why.

[rear_view_mirror]

Frupp,
Yes, a friend of mine (department chair) told me awhile ago "Phil is the ideal person for this gig, but I can't hire another white man right now."
While it would be absurd to say that diversity study amounts to an anti-white male movement, there may be unintended consequences.

[rear_view_mirror]

Actually, to clarify last post, study of any kind could not be a movement.
I think diversity is an interesting thing to study, but not in the way that some things are. For example, cancer. Cancer needs a solution. The appreciation of diversity may need a solution, but to a great extent, that solution has already been applied.
In an era where students are struggling not only to pay tuition, but to borrow for tuition, the question "what does a diversity office and staff in a college provide for us, and at what cost" is a fair one. In fact, it's a fair question even without severe financial strain. Can one ask this without provoking people?
Some of us suspect the fear of litigation is behind some of these aggressive efforts to promote diversity. That doesn't mean promoting diversity is bad. It just means let's tell the truth about what is going on.

[francishamit]

White men discriminated against?

You tell me.

On two occasions--during telephone interviews--I was asked if I was black. (I'm not).
On a third occasion I flew cross-country for an on-campus interview,
only to be told by the search Chair, "We thought from your CV that you were black!"  (Nope, still white).

For some inexplicable reason, the position announcement in each case neglected to mention that "white males need NOT apply." Hmmm, I wonder why.

It could be worse.  One German publisher was enthusiastic about buying translation rights for my book until they were told I am not a woman.  Not much I can do about that. 

[redweather]

What a joy it has been for me to read this thread.  I never imagined there were so many who would readily defend anti-white male bias in hiring decisions.  We certainly have come a long way baby.