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« on: March 13, 2007, 03:19:30 PM »

Why did CHE change the title in the link? I sort of like the pun of "hue and cry" but why the different titles?

Secondly, I googled the author's photo. My spouse, who is 'hued" said when I asked them, what background do you think she has, replied, "well, looks like black blood to me. Look at the hair".

Otherwise I liked the article. Comments?
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2007, 11:46:25 AM »

Maybe I misread the piece, but I couldn't help wondering if the SC's treatment of the author had more to do with age discrimination than with race.  I can no longer find the link to the piece, so I may be way off.  On the whole, it was a fascinating.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2007, 11:48:55 AM »

Link please.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2007, 11:51:33 AM »

Maybe I misread the piece, but I couldn't help wondering if the SC's treatment of the author had more to do with age discrimination than with race.  I can no longer find the link to the piece, so I may be way off.  On the whole, it was a fascinating.

It was very much about "hue" and "blackness" (or lack of). Read the last part of the article -- she makes it pretty clear how she interpreted it. (and kudos to her for using her name rather than a pseudonym. Much more real than hiding behind a moniker. A bit risky as the university in question will know who they are, but I see she has a good job now).
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2007, 11:56:37 AM »

To read the article click here.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2007, 11:59:41 AM »


To read the article click here.

For some reason the CHE in their wisdom has made it now accessible only to subscribers! The day it was on the Careers page it was accessible to anyone. I smell a conspirary here because of its subject matter. But, hey,maybe I am just being paranoid.  [Note from moderator: No conspiracy. Just a mistake. We've fixed and the article is free now to all.]
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2007, 12:42:32 PM »

Maybe I misread the piece, but I couldn't help wondering if the SC's treatment of the author had more to do with age discrimination than with race.  I can no longer find the link to the piece, so I may be way off.  On the whole, it was a fascinating.

It was very much about "hue" and "blackness" (or lack of). Read the last part of the article -- she makes it pretty clear how she interpreted it. (and kudos to her for using her name rather than a pseudonym. Much more real than hiding behind a moniker. A bit risky as the university in question will know who they are, but I see she has a good job now).

Age discrimination may have played a role.  But the major issue here was the author's lack of hue.  The simple fact is given her lack of "hue" , the author does not meet the criteria we use in our society to decide whether or not someone is black enough.  If you are a hued person and can be visibly identified as being of African descent, then people will identify you as such.  No one questions your blackness (most of the time).  It doesn't matter what percentage of your heritage is actually African.  The fact is even among self-identified African-Americans, it is common enough to have some percentage of European, Asian, and/or Native American heritage.  But if you look Black enough and go before an SC, no one's going to ask to verify that your lineage is mostly African.

By any definition, the author is African-American--she is the descendant of slaves and she certainly qualifies under the one-drop rule.  The sad thing here is that in their search for an "authentic" African-American faculty member, this SC really missed the boat.
 
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2007, 12:56:50 PM »

Maybe I misread the piece, but I couldn't help wondering if the SC's treatment of the author had more to do with age discrimination than with race.  I can no longer find the link to the piece, so I may be way off.  On the whole, it was a fascinating.

It was very much about "hue" and "blackness" (or lack of). Read the last part of the article -- she makes it pretty clear how she interpreted it. (and kudos to her for using her name rather than a pseudonym. Much more real than hiding behind a moniker. A bit risky as the university in question will know who they are, but I see she has a good job now).

Age discrimination may have played a role.  But the major issue here was the author's lack of hue.  The simple fact is given her lack of "hue" , the author does not meet the criteria we use in our society to decide whether or not someone is black enough.  If you are a hued person and can be visibly identified as being of African descent, then people will identify you as such.  No one questions your blackness (most of the time).  It doesn't matter what percentage of your heritage is actually African.  The fact is even among self-identified African-Americans, it is common enough to have some percentage of European, Asian, and/or Native American heritage.  But if you look Black enough and go before an SC, no one's going to ask to verify that your lineage is mostly African.

By any definition, the author is African-American--she is the descendant of slaves and she certainly qualifies under the one-drop rule.  The sad thing here is that in their search for an "authentic" African-American faculty member, this SC really missed the boat.
 

Yes, I agree. I do an exercise in a class I teach where I ask people to go around comparing the color of their wrists. I then ask them to group themselves and give themselves a label. Often the labels are 'food' related colors like capuccino or cafe au lait or peach or olive! So you might see someone who is "black" standing with someone from southern Italy or Israel or even India. Anyways, the purpose of the activity is to help students see how 'race' is socially constructed based on skin color.

"Hue" was a nice way of putting the dilemma. I still don't know why the link is "hue and cry" and not the title of the article "not black enough". Which title did the author give the article?

 [Note: Authors may suggest a title but the headlines are written by The Chronicle's editors and copyeditors. The headlines for articles on the CHE home page are taken from the table of contents in that week's print issue. The mods.]
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