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cloudsonelephants1
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« on: December 28, 2006, 10:28:29 PM »

A Colorado professor got laid off or reprimanded in part for mentioning similarities to the Nazi Period.

I just want to say that there are really similarities in my experience, although we try to avoid the similarities.

Student at IIT makes a false complaint up about following her home and talking to her on a train. IIT prohibits speech, seeks restraining order when I mention that frequent alcohol service contributes to 3 students and my brother's death, prohibits transferring departments, prohibits work full time, will not talk about case, prohibits talking about issue. The Nazis made up some false complaints against certain groups.

Roosevelt University staff actually say things like "you went b*tching to the government" when I discuss not being paid, not being paid benefits for working over 20 hours, having work taken without credit, having a bee bite me when coming to work, having plugs pulled on machines. The effect is traumatizing. The Nazis sometimes created an environment of dishonesty too.

We live in an area that profits from cruise missile sales from property taxes and income taxes.  When I mention that to Cook County staff, they call getting food and dental bills reimbursed belligerent and immaterial. Staying at home is belligerent and immaterial; living where you do not want to live is supported.  Some graduates of Loyola and IIT do things like not reimburse expenses, support handcuffing parents who want to see doctors.

There were 9,000 concentration camps in Germany. Conditions at some of the camps were perhaps better than conditions for some Americans. Some of us work more than 11 hours as some Germans did at some concentration camps. Not all camps were killing centers like Auschwitz, Bergen Belsen, Triblenka, etc.

I have concerns about the widespread disdain expressed for comparing the Nazis and ourselves. I think we need to see that there are some similarities.

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cloudsonelephants1
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2007, 12:48:02 AM »

Further, schools like NEIU jailed me asking why I could not be certified to be a school teacher,

Loyola handcuffed me and banned me from school for 15 years for  reading about leukemia and asking about a chemical leak and Cameroon

and NU Psych Rehab forced medication for being exhausted and upset about discrimination.

Being discriminated against is easier than fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan, but still there is mistreatment of students and employees too.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2007, 12:51:51 AM »

Are you trying to be Carl Solomon? Or were you his roommate?
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2007, 08:05:54 PM »

I think someone needs to take a look at the "partner on pot" thread.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2007, 09:43:52 PM »

I think someone needs to take a look at the "partner on pot" thread.

That dude is on something way stronger than pot...
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2007, 09:40:35 AM »

He's mentally ill, and not in a good way.
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2007, 09:42:22 AM »

What I want to know is, did someone already have the moniker "cloudsonelephants" so that OP had to add a "1" to the end to be distinct?

And, is that more or less logical than "elephants on clouds"? Discuss.

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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2007, 01:13:32 PM »

What I want to know is, did someone already have the moniker "cloudsonelephants" so that OP had to add a "1" to the end to be distinct?

And, is that more or less logical than "elephants on clouds"? Discuss.

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Well, "elephants on clouds" sounds a little dirty to me. Weren't we going to keep this thread clean? Oh wait--that was another thread.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2007, 11:48:51 PM »

A pen name for a blog posting is benign and insignificant. Clouds on elephants was just a very quick pen name or pseudonym chosen for posting here. I just quickly thought of a name. Part of my family came from Wolkringen Belgium or something which has to do with clouds. Wolk is related to the word clouds from what i understood. Clouds also play a role in astronomy, weather, and elephants are religious animals in Hinduism. They communicate using infrasonic wavelengths. They are associated with Babar by a French author. They are a subject of controversy here in Chicago where they died in a popular zoo related to strange or controversial issues. When one spends 12 seconds thinking of a pen name, that is just some ideas coming together.

I really am not mentally ill; I got a job at U of Chicago that involved shelving from 7 am -9am then working in the Oriental Institute working 10 - 4pm, then travelling to a different community amidst someone knocking out a window on a car and seeing some conflict. I would study and read all night long. The illness was just the result of overwork and exhaustion.

Challenge for anybody--Do you develop thoughts that sound a little like they come from outside if you get up at 5 in the morning and read all night after a day of work?

Answer--Many people will and many people will be misdiagnosed with something they do not have. I admit I do have PTSD symptoms. When a parent is exposed to smoke and someone says she will seek a restraining order for being concerned about that or for months the someone will not reimburse food and dental bills or i am threatened with jail for saying that the Holocaust is similar to what we do to some elderly or the area profits from cruise missiles, people develop trauma and fear.

Imagine saying, "You profited from my brother's death from alcohol taxes" being thrown out of court for saying that. Being thrown out of court for saying that the "area profits from cruise missiles." People develop trauma from that.

Anyone hearing that our country has been involved in a war with 600,000 deaths, our world could be hit by asteroids or other objects unexpectedly, our world faces risks we do not understand from disease, we have tremendous debts gets traumatized. Overreacting to trauma is normal.

Overreacting to cruelty has got to be normal. Nietschze's break with reality might have involved  a similar overreaction to cruelty.

If you see cruelty is it not normal to be traumatized by it. Princeton or Yale Divinity school professor described becoming emotionally damaged for life with the death of his son. Emotional trauma is kind of normal. I have published over 20 different letters to the editor, articles, other in print publications. I have presented at 6 different international or national conferences one as recent as last fall in springfield. I have many accomplishments. Accomplishments can happen in someone facing trauma and overreaction.



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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2007, 01:17:06 PM »

Wow.  Just, wow.

I'm getting some popcorn, sitting down on the sidelines, and watching where this is going.  Anyone need anything while I'm up?

A quick note to the OP; comparing your difficulties at a university to a concentration camp will not win you friends.  Anywhere.
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2007, 12:52:08 AM »

Someone at NASA tells me one of my papers if substantiated and published in a peer reviewed journal would be a candidate for the Nobel Prize in Physics at the same time I am told I am going to be locked up

-for saying a parent is exposed to smoke,

-saying reimbursing a nursing home automatically and calling food and medical  expenses at home belligerent and immaterial is similar to what happened to some Jews in Poland during the Holocaust,

-saying that judges profit from cruise missile sales or my brother's death from alcohol related issues.

I really was forced to take medication for being discriminated against and exhausted. My mother is called delusional for having her pulled out, being pushed into a cabinet, falling or being pushed with multiple trauma and facial trauma.

There are similarities between the Nazi period and discrimination in some areas.

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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2007, 07:33:48 PM »

To answer your original question:  Yes.  Why?  The Nazis were much better dressers than Americans.  Probably because many of them were gay.
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2007, 09:39:32 PM »

Hey, Jonesy... grab me a beer?
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2007, 12:38:24 AM »

OP, not that I do not agree with the basic premise (there are some similarities that I can see), but I have to ask, have you been offering a "first folio" of Shakespeare's Pericles on Ebay this week? 

Sharing brownies with this guy? 

http://cgi.ebay.com/FIRST-FOLIO-SHAKESPEARE_W0QQitemZ320069507373QQihZ011QQcategoryZ20046QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I'll make the popcorn. 
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2007, 03:19:41 AM »

I... can't even begin. I'm getting my own beer.
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