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gastr1
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« Reply #45 on: December 20, 2007, 12:40:57 PM »

...and the naming of institutions shall now cease, thank you very much (sarcastic applause).
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« Reply #46 on: December 20, 2007, 12:50:48 PM »

Wow, markplus.  You really have a penchant for misplaced blame, don't you?

You chose to attend your undergrad.  You chose not to transfer elsewhere.  You are basing your opinion of their operations on...the preponderance of news stories about sports, etc.?  Funny, many excellent colleges are the same.  I guess since Duke gets lots of press on their basketball team, they must be a crappy school, too, right?

Then you proceeded to choose a grad program based on the fact that they seemed to be "easy."  Yet you're surprised that your choices thus far have not enabled your career-hunting?

Your poor choices have nothing to do with the institutions you attended.  It is intrinsic.  Fix that, and perhaps better jobs will follow.
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« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2007, 01:08:23 PM »

I picked a master's in college teaching from Northeastern State University in Tahlequah, Oklahoma, because the course work looked easy

I agree, this sums up the whole story. Instead of you asking to have your degree revoked, it sounds like your undergrad ought to contact you to point out that you didn't learn anything.

On a related note...what in hell is a "master's in college teaching"? That's a troll phrase if ever I heard one.
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« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2007, 01:16:00 PM »

Of course, reading that whole post makes it even better:

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I did that. I picked a master's in college teaching from Northeastern State University in Tahlequah, Oklahoma, because the course work looked easy and I figured it could give me the edge in getting a job in a math lab at a community college with some teaching on the side. That didn't help, either, because all the community colleges I applied to (late 1980's) preferred to hire math majors with two X chromosomes. I don't feel angry about that experience, however.

Oh, you mean they didn't want to hire someone to teach college that didn't have at least a master's degree in the subject?  Shocking!  It must be because you're a man!  Or, because your undergrad sucked.  wait - what was the issue again?

If I was your undergrad, I'd go ahead and revoke your degree in a second.  I'm not certain why that would help you, though - you do realize that A) to attend another university, they would have to receive those transcripts with "degree revoked" marked.  What university is going to accept you then?  Oh yeah, and if your grad institution finds out, they can revoke your master's, because you didn't have a bachelor's at the time of matriculation.  That way, you can have nothing but a high school degree, with no prospects for advancement!

Yes, your decision-making and logical thinking skills need a little work.
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« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2007, 01:30:03 PM »

I picked a master's in college teaching from Northeastern State University in Tahlequah, Oklahoma, because the course work looked easy

I agree, this sums up the whole story. Instead of you asking to have your degree revoked, it sounds like your undergrad ought to contact you to point out that you didn't learn anything.

On a related note...what in hell is a "master's in college teaching"? That's a troll phrase if ever I heard one.

Looking at the NSU website, the Master's degree appears to be in "teaching" with no mention of what level. Looking at the catalog, it appears to me that most, if not all of the coursework is aimed toward the pk-12 environment.
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« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2008, 12:30:15 AM »

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I picked a master's in college teaching from Northeastern State University... I figured it could give me the edge in getting a job in a meth lab

I fixed it for you.  =)
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« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2008, 08:30:28 AM »

Oh my! That last post gave me a chuckle!
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« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2008, 09:36:50 AM »

jobs have gone to immigrants with H1-B visas


all the community colleges I applied to (late 1980's) preferred to hire math majors with two X chromosomes.


I picked a master's in college teaching from Northeastern State University in Tahlequah, Oklahoma, because the course work looked easy....
 


Adequatio intellectus et rei.
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« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2009, 10:40:21 PM »

Okay, time to defend my field. There are plenty of good jobs to be had with a bachelor's in math. What you choose to do depends on YOU. I tell mathematics majors all the time about the book Great Jobs for Math Majors. I don't remember who wrote it, but it doesn't really matter. There are plenty of things you can do with a math major; so, let's knock off telling people that the only things you can do with a math major are teach and go to grad school. There really is plenty more out there.

The OP is one of the many examples to illustrate why I believe NO ONE should be allowed to attend college until they have worked two years after high school. (Yes, I know that I attended college right after high school. I believe it should have applied to me, too.) What was OP's purpose in going to college? What were his/her career goals? Would a degree in mathematics actually get him/her to these goals? If the answer to any of these questions at age 18 was "I don't know", OP should not have been admitted. This would have saved OP's alma mater the embarassment of having to claim him/her as an alumnus/a.
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« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2009, 10:45:54 PM »


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« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2009, 11:24:58 PM »

Okay, time to defend my field. There are plenty of good jobs to be had with a bachelor's in math.
Last time I looked at the figures - this was probably mid-70s - the median income for a Math BA was higher than that of a Math MA/MS, and that was higher than that for a Math PhD.  Make of this what you will. - DvF
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« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2009, 11:12:16 AM »

This is stupid.  I don't see the logic behind it.  Looks like someone is a little bitter about their own personal failures and looking to point the finger. 
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« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2009, 05:13:02 PM »

Okay, time to defend my field. There are plenty of good jobs to be had with a bachelor's in math.
Last time I looked at the figures - this was probably mid-70s - the median income for a Math BA was higher than that of a Math MA/MS, and that was higher than that for a Math PhD.  Make of this what you will. - DvF
It may be like my field. I have long known getting a Ph.D. in CS was economic lunacy. As it happens I am a lunatic (in case you haven't noticed)
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« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2009, 05:22:37 PM »

I also find it difficult to believe that I'm the only person in the  country to have thought of doing this. I'd like to find at least one precedent to study for some strategy ideas.

What in god's name could you possibly hope to accomplish by this? Wasting some more of your time on this earth? If you're dissatisfied with your career, saddling yourself with fewer qualifications is hardly the road towards greater career satisfaction.
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« Reply #59 on: January 16, 2009, 09:33:36 PM »

I also find it difficult to believe that I'm the only person in the  country to have thought of doing this. I'd like to find at least one precedent to study for some strategy ideas.

What in god's name could you possibly hope to accomplish by this? Wasting some more of your time on this earth? If you're dissatisfied with your career, saddling yourself with fewer qualifications is hardly the road towards greater career satisfaction.
Umm. Markplus (the OP) was apparently last on in October 2007. Perhaps he managed to get his birth certificate recalled too.
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