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mrhistory
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« on: December 08, 2006, 06:38:43 PM »

A friend just told me she missed an interview invitation for THREE DAYS. Why? They sent an email to a list (no sep addresses, just "AHA apps") which went directly into an email junk filter on her mail because it had "blind addresses" coded (or something, apparently something triggered the spam filter about that sort of address).  She found it when she went to clean out her junk mail folder and skimmed for the odd miss-filtered email.

Great...something else to compulsively check right?  Ah well, there could be "gold" in them thar piles of Hoodia, viagra, and stock sale spams. Get to checking people!!!
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2006, 07:22:36 PM »

This is not an uncommon problem, especially if you are using yahoo or hotmail type email systems or your internet provider's email system has automatic means of identifying junk mail.  Check your junk folder every day. On some systems it automatically gets purged every so often.
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2006, 09:04:57 PM »

Get a new email address with one of the free providers. Use it for applications.

Both gmail.com and fastmail.fm allow you to forward messages or notifications to your regular account so you have two chances to get them.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2006, 02:06:38 PM »

During interview season, I check my junk mail folder daily.  I had three invitations to interview that went to the junk mail folder.  Thankfully, I only use this particular address for important things, like applications (I have a separate junk address for registering for things where they might sell my address), so I don't get much junk mail.  Definitely a good lesson to learn.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2006, 02:11:13 PM »

I have Yahoo mail, and there is a setting that allows you to keep bulk mail/spam for 10 days or have it deleted immediately. Make sure your setting is not on "Delete it immediately."
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2006, 02:13:49 PM »

For the less cyber sophisticated among us...by junk folder do you mean the spam filter? I get a spam filter digest once a day and I always check it. Is there anyplace else I should check? Thanks for the community service.
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2006, 02:17:18 PM »

For the less cyber sophisticated among us...by junk folder do you mean the spam filter? I get a spam filter digest once a day and I always check it. Is there anyplace else I should check? Thanks for the community service.

Yes, and if you can check what's in there, you are okay. I have my spam filter set for immediate deletion. You job seekers, on the other hand, should not. What do I care? I have tenure.
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2006, 03:15:15 PM »

One of the reasons I suggested getting a separate email address is that new addresses receive less spam (spammers have to find the address).

I also like to keep my various personas separate.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2006, 03:23:13 PM »

The fact is that Email has ceased to be a carrier grade service.

I do not do any important business over it without making arrangements ahead of time to make sure all relevant addresses are whitelisted.  It's letters and telephone calls until we establish who is going to be mailing whom.

If a search committee is going to be that sloppy about scheduling interviews... well, they deserve to miss out on a bunch of candidates and have their correspondence round filed.  You want an interview with someone?  Call or send a letter.
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2006, 03:33:55 PM »

Definitely, csguy.  I have only had my serious email account since graduating (since I used campus mail before that), so it isn't bad.  If you have one for too long, the spammers find you, and then you get inundated.  If you have a really common name that you use as a basis of your address, it can be much worse (my friend with the last name "Smith" can attest to that).

It helps if you are lucky enough to have a bizarre name, but there are other ways to find good names.  Including your field in your professional account is a way to distinguish it, particularly if your field is obscure.  You can also use jargon particular to your field.  These are common ideas I see used in academic email addresses.  I'm sure there are other ideas you could come up with, depending on your field/name/background.  Just try to keep professional email addresses sounding either professional or completely innocuous at minimum (no hotkitty's please!).

As far as acrimone's advice: I'm sure you can choose to be so picky, with committees flocking to your doorstep, but some of us don't have that choice.  I'm sure a postal letter would be so much better, particular interview requests sent around the holidays.  I wonder if they would ever arrive.
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2006, 03:42:47 PM »

Of course you have a choice.  In your cover letter, say you want to make sure that correspondence is reliable, and that while you'd prefer phone or letter, you have configured your filters to allow emails with the name of their university in it. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2006, 05:21:14 PM »

OK, you're killing me... I just went through all my spam (a few hundred e-mails) from the last two months: Nothing. I got all excited for nothing!
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2006, 06:06:15 PM »

OK, you're killing me... I just went through all my spam (a few hundred e-mails) from the last two months: Nothing. I got all excited for nothing!

Yeah me too, although I clean it out once a week or sooner, her news sent me sprinting to a terminal....just in case. 
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