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Author Topic: IT'S IN THE SYLLABUS!!!  (Read 1750 times)
diveprof
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« on: October 24, 2006, 10:34:43 AM »

 I just have to vent a bit- I had ANOTHER student who consistently ignores my corrections on his paper and makes the same mistakes over and over come into my office and insist that I tell him what the point value was on the remaining assignments. He actually said, "It's my right to know!", to which I replied," You're right- and I let you know in the syllabus- look at it". He then got all upset and huffy insisting that since it was just he and I in the room, I could tell him right then. Grrr...
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acrimone
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2006, 10:35:50 AM »

That's when you say, "Well, about that you're wrong.  We are no longer in this room.  You are leaving."
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2006, 10:45:07 AM »

I think I would take a different tact.

Here's how I imagine my reaction... Arch eyebrow, smile.  Then with a laugh in my voice, "I think you're smart enough to handle reading the syllabus.  After all, learning to figure things out on your own is a big part of the college experience.  It'll be good for you."

These undergrads can just be so absurd I can't figure out how people can do anything other than laugh.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2006, 11:53:00 AM »

ANNOYING NITPICK ALERT:

The expression is "take a different tack."  It's a nautical expression, as in "tack against the winds."

I realize it's just a forum, and I'm being hypernitpicky, but that's like the sixth time I've seen that error here and I finally just lost it.

Nice suggestion, though.
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2006, 01:04:40 PM »

Perhaps I meant it as a pun.

I didn't, but it does work that way in this case.  Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2006, 03:08:57 PM »

Thanks, acrimone. Being a former sailor (if there really is such a thing), that one annoys me, too.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2006, 09:56:25 PM »

Ah, yes. The syllabus.

A student received a 0 on her homework because she didn't do what was asked of her. When she challenged me and said- "You didn't tell me." I replied that not only did I discuss it on the first day, it's also in the syllabus. Her response was that she's not good with instructions... And she still didn't do what was required on the next homework assignment. When she found out her grade (a 0 again), she got mad and left the room (class was over).

I give my students a sheet of my email addresses (campus and a personal one that works through my website) and office hours. So, a few weeks into the quarter I get people who will ask me when I'll be in my office. I tell them to look at my contact sheet. OK, it's not the syllabus but it's the same idea.

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2006, 01:35:37 AM »

Sometimes I wonder if there are students whose reading skills are so bad that they can't understand a syllabus. Or maybe they need glasses?

But that kind of "read me the syllabus I should have read" behavior makes me crazy.

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2006, 05:56:38 AM »

A student received a 0 on her homework because she didn't do what was asked of her. When she challenged me and said- "You didn't tell me." I replied that not only did I discuss it on the first day, it's also in the syllabus. Her response was that she's not good with instructions... And she still didn't do what was required on the next homework assignment. When she found out her grade (a 0 again), she got mad and left the room (class was over).

I had one of those this term.  (Technically, I still do - it's just that she has no chance of passing at this point and it's too late to drop, so she's stopped coming.)  Said student turned in a 1-pager instead of the 5-pager she had due because she (alternately) didn't understand/didn't like the reading the paper was based on.  I also sent out a reminder about something to do with the midterm a few weeks ago and got an email back "we have a test?"  It's on the syllabus and it had been mentioned in class each of the previous 3-4 meetings.  And this student is allegedly a major in my department - though possibly not for long since my department requires students to earn a C-minium in all their major classes and complete a foreign language requirement.  (She has enough trouble with English!!)
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