acrimone
The Red Queen's Court Assassin
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I am not a professor at all, despite what I say.
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« on: October 23, 2006, 09:10:58 AM » |
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sir_lancelot, I had a very similar experience recently. My students read several short supplemental readings over the course of the
"I COULD not find the subject you wanted us to write on. I class you kept saying the paper on (topic) was due and i thought it was what we discussed in class the wednesday before is what we were supposed to write on. PLEASE be more specific and guide the class on the exact subject we are supposed to write about. Everyone has a different track mind and thinks differently. What you assumed I automatically knew to write about i did not. I also looked on the syllabus and there were no instructions for what specific subject to write on. Please guide me more carefully next time because i cannot continue to get 0% on my assignments especially if i honestly put forth effort!"
Does anybody think that a display of attitude like the one displayed in Dagny's email would have even been possible, even as a rare occurrence, thirty years ago? I don't. What the hell did we do to allow our authority to be eroded like this? How did this happen, and how do we fix it? |
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"All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"
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banana
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2006, 09:42:43 AM » |
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Nope, we didn't do that -- it was unthinkable. I distinctly remember standing outside a prof's office as an undergrad, trying to leave a note regarding an assignment. (This was pre-email, of course.) I had "borrowed" a piece of paper from someone in a nearby office. I must have returned to that office 3 or 4 times for additional pieces of paper, because it was so important to me that I get the wording just right, and that I come across as ultra-respectful, I kept having to discard my initial attempts and re-write them.
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larryc
Hu hatin'
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Eschew the hu.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2006, 11:11:16 AM » |
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Oh God another back-in-my-day thread, in which we use our idealized, unrepresentative, and filtered memories of the past as a club with which to beat the present. OK, I will play:
When I was a student at AntiDiluvean U, we knew how to respect our professors dag nabbit! We dropped to our knees when we came within sight of their offices, and crawled the last ten yards on our bellies, out of respect. We didn't knock on their office doors, by golly, we knew our place, we just cowered outside in case they heard our whimpering and opened the door. Not like these whipper snappers today I can tell you. Why the other day I had a student MAKE EYE CONTACT with me when asking a question! I should have had him whipped. Back in my day, we stared at the ground, and sometimes urinated on ourselves, when a professor looked at us. We had respect.
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prytania3
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2006, 11:18:24 AM » |
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Oh God another back-in-my-day thread, in which we use our idealized, unrepresentative, and filtered memories of the past as a club with which to beat the present. OK, I will play:
When I was a student at AntiDiluvean U, we knew how to respect our professors dag nabbit! We dropped to our knees when we came within sight of their offices, and crawled the last ten yards on our bellies, out of respect. We didn't knock on their office doors, by golly, we knew our place, we just cowered outside in case they heard our whimpering and opened the door. Not like these whipper snappers today I can tell you. Why the other day I had a student MAKE EYE CONTACT with me when asking a question! I should have had him whipped. Back in my day, we stared at the ground, and sometimes urinated on ourselves, when a professor looked at us. We had respect.
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Clowns, I tell you. Clowns.
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dagny
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2006, 02:14:34 PM » |
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You can imagine my feelings upon reading that one. (The OP is quoting my "favorite student e-mail.")
It's the worst I've ever gotten. I've had relatively few student issues over the last few years, and then suddenly, in this large class I teach this semester--BAM. I've had four or five similar e-mails just since August. With one or two, I've sent a very stern reply along the lines of "This is terribly inappropriate; please see me," and gotten a frantic personal apology along with the explanation "I didn't mean it to sound that nasty!" I really do believe that students just don't realize how tricky e-mail communication can be, and when they take a look at their own original e-mail, they're shocked to realize how hostile they sound.
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crazybatlady
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2006, 04:24:39 PM » |
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Oh God another back-in-my-day thread, in which we use our idealized, unrepresentative, and filtered memories of the past as a club with which to beat the present. OK, I will play:
When I was a student at AntiDiluvean U, we knew how to respect our professors dag nabbit! We dropped to our knees when we came within sight of their offices, and crawled the last ten yards on our bellies, out of respect. We didn't knock on their office doors, by golly, we knew our place, we just cowered outside in case they heard our whimpering and opened the door. Not like these whipper snappers today I can tell you. Why the other day I had a student MAKE EYE CONTACT with me when asking a question! I should have had him whipped. Back in my day, we stared at the ground, and sometimes urinated on ourselves, when a professor looked at us. We had respect.
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As always, CBL rules! All hail the CBL!
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