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rattusdomesticus
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« on: October 18, 2006, 11:15:04 AM » |
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Here's an idea, since many of our campuses subscribe to a "student as consumer" ideology, let's start charging for certain "extras." For example, English comp. professors could surcharge this way:
> Want that paper graded and back in three days? No problem--$9. Don't mind waiting a full week? $3. Two weeks is free.
> Need an appointment outside of our regular office hours to get some one-on-one tutoring in a subject that is above and beyond classroom learning? No problem. $30 an hour up front. Oh, and a $15 cancellation fee if appointment is cancelled less than 24 hours in advance.
> Interested in getting some feedback on an extra in-between draft of a paper? Drop it off at any time. For an extra $15, I'll be happy to guide you.
> Need help doing exercises on the companion website or online tutorial? Great. Five dollars for five problems.
> Hoping to look at extra graded sample papers from the last semester to see how I grade? (This would be above and beyond the three I show in class.) $5 per paper. Copies only--no digital (for the obvious reason).
> Need to borrow a pen during an exam? Twenty cents. Extra sheet of paper? Ten cents. Tissue? A nickel. Sewing kit? Try a staple out of my stapler for only 10 cents.
And, of course, to look at your personal statement, resume, or other written materials....$35 per hour with at least a 72-hour turnaround. Higher rates for "rush" documents. Letters of reference, if earned, would be free.
So, now that we're seeing "drive-through" students registered in class, but finding every excuse not to come--and many of our administrators are subscribing to a "student as consumer" ideology, what would you charge for outside of normal preparation, class time, and grading?
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voxprincipalis
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2006, 11:25:13 AM » |
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Rattus, I love this idea.
> Telling you it's good when it's not: $250. (Telling you the truth: free.)
(I'm sure someone will come up with a Mastercard "priceless" spin on this; I personally haven't the time, as I'm too busy trying to explain why student illness doesn't automatically become the instructor's problem on another thread.)
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2006, 11:37:24 AM » |
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I would charge for email:
10 cents a word for each email response to non-internet students.
$5 for each email question that could be answered if the student would read the syllabus.
$10 for each grammatically incorrect email, or any email that begins with "hey"
First born child for any email over 1000 words that details the sad, pathetic life of a student, especially if the student is explaining why he or she doesn't have a 200-word response paper ready.
A homicide of my choosing for any email that begins with "Congratulations, you have been selected to serve on the _______ committee . . ."
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rattusdomesticus
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2006, 11:50:50 AM » |
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I love fishbrains' idea bout charging for e-mail. The more repetitive and inane, the higher the charge. I guaran(darn)tee you that my students would start reading their syllabus if they had to input a credit card and hit "submit for charge estimate" before e-mailing me silly questions.
On the other hand, if this solution gets implemented, would my department chair now charge ME $5 for every question that could be resolved by reading three daunting, huge faculty handbooks? Or would our secretary be able to charge me $2 for answering a question that was answered (though obliquely) in an e-mail sent to me two semesters ago?
Ah, "...hoist on my own petard." (Hamlet III.iv.207)
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2006, 07:51:06 PM » |
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$5 for asking "Did we do anything today?"
$10 for requesting accomodations not approved by proper channels. $50 to have them approved.
Twenty mackeral smacks for any "You took X points off for [whatever]. That's not fair!" (Yes, it is, because I did the same for everyone else that did [whatever].)
$20 for any guidence given on an assignment the day it is due.
This is a great idea, rattus.
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2006, 08:08:49 PM » |
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$50 to feel my socks.
I wouldn't EVER have thought of this, but I actually had a student ask if they could feel my socks today...I was a little caught off guard.
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2006, 08:55:27 PM » |
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They must be very cool socks!
And I think everyone else listing prices are selling things way too low. Please don't flood the market with cheap import versions of your items. Double your prices and I think you will find the market will bear it just fine.
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2006, 10:26:54 PM » |
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$50 to feel my socks.
I wouldn't EVER have thought of this, but I actually had a student ask if they could feel my socks today...I was a little caught off guard.
Well, at least the student ASKED first... Great thread, rattus! z |
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2006, 11:11:46 AM » |
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$50 to feel my socks.
I wouldn't EVER have thought of this, but I actually had a student ask if they could feel my socks today...I was a little caught off guard.
So, did you let the student feel your socks? |
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2006, 10:44:45 PM » |
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Well if you can get $19 an hour tutoring at Sylvan and $25/hour tutoring SAT prep near where I live, if you are in grad school or have an MA, I have to say your prices are all too low.
Don't use the McDonald's analogy; use the "day spa" analogy for extras: the more you (over)charge for a service the more fashionable, exclusive and valuable it seems to be. With that, here are my suggestions for the new guild rates:
> Want that paper graded and back in three days? No problem--$57. Don't mind waiting a full week? $23. Two weeks is free.
> Need an appointment outside of our regular office hours to get some one-on-one tutoring in a subject that is above and beyond classroom learning? No problem. $100 an hour up front. Oh, and a $45 cancellation fee if appointment is cancelled less than 24 hours in advance.
> Interested in getting some feedback on an extra in-between draft of a paper? Drop it off at any time. For an extra $45, I'll be happy to guide you.
> Need help doing exercises on the companion website or online tutorial? Great. 25 dollars for five problems.
> Hoping to look at extra graded sample papers from the last semester to see how I grade? (This would be above and beyond the three I show in class.) $70 per paper. Copies only--no digital (for the obvious reason). (hey, when I was looking for papers from the paper mills, this was the going rate)
>And, of course, to look at your personal statement, resume, or other written materials....$75 per hour with at least a 72-hour turnaround. Higher rates for "rush" documents. Letters of reference, if earned, would be free.
I would add that handholding and reassurance for students who are actually doing just fine should run at the standard $75/ hour.
Students "at heel" like a puppy, attempting to extend a meaningless conversation all the way to the parking lot or office door: $40
One-on-one explanation or recap of what happened the day they missed class: $103.
Email request to put course books on reserve so that they don't have to buy them
- after the midterm: $147
- before the midterm: $25
-before the semester starts: free (my really strapped students know their money down to the penny and plan this stuff out months in advance).
To get an answer to "is that going to be on the test?": $28.
To not have class on the Wednesday morning before Thanksgiving: $112, per student. All requests to catch up on the material for that cancelled class will run the standard missed course rate.
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2006, 12:37:33 AM » |
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Since my non-academic legal work is charged out at $410 per hour, I'd probably use that as a baseline.
Poor students.
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2006, 09:08:33 AM » |
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I have to say that I, too, feel you all have been undervaluing your labor.
I'd say at least $100 an hour to start for those of you just starting in the consulting world.
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2006, 11:04:06 AM » |
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-Answering ANY question that is in the syllabus or textbook, $75.
-Appointments outside of office hours (with fee waived for students who have a regularly scheduled class during my office hours) $50/hr for days I'm on campus (usually 4 days a week), $200 for apts. outside of normal business hours.
-A $500 penalty for any student who makes an appointment outside normal office hours and then fails to show up. (Currently, I just refuse future such appointments if a student blows off an appointment without a legitimate reason...and I tell them why. It's incredibly inconsiderate.)
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jds2006
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2006, 08:23:12 AM » |
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Heck. I'd pay somebody to feel my socks.
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2006, 05:48:43 PM » |
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Heck. I'd pay somebody to feel my socks.
Email me; my rates are resonable. |
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