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You know, since this student took responsibility I might be inclined to let him/her submit the assignment late, but with a steep penalty and an agreement that this is a one-time thing.
I already said no. I might have considered it, but I went over my policy in great detail the first two weeks of class. I asked if there were questions about the assignment a billion times. I sent a reminder email to the whole class that the first paper was due (and I never do that). There was really no excuse. Also, as a young-looking woman, I feel like I really have to lay down the law for the first few weeks, or they try to get away with murder. It happens every semester, but by midterms they're whipped into shape. Ah, in that case, it makes sense to say no. Especially if you think that the student's playing you. |
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« Reply #2866 on: February 05, 2008, 02:39:26 PM » |
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From a student last seen in my office in April 2006. Who wants to declare my major so as to graduate this semester. No communication in the meantime. Hi This is Mean Jim I talked to you a few semester ago about graduating with a [fannie's program's] degree I was short a few credits but should have them by now!!! I tried to see you at your office but our hours kind of butt heads!!! Could you look and see if I qualfy or what I need for it! If you need more than just my name please let me know! I would like to graduate this spring if possible! I am substituting now and I get a pay increase with a 4 year degree! Please let me know Thanks Mean Jim |
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« Reply #2867 on: February 05, 2008, 02:49:24 PM » |
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From a student last seen in my office in April 2006. Who wants to declare my major so as to graduate this semester. No communication in the meantime. Hi This is Mean Jim I talked to you a few semester ago about graduating with a [fannie's program's] degree I was short a few credits but should have them by now!!! I tried to see you at your office but our hours kind of butt heads!!! Could you look and see if I qualfy or what I need for it! If you need more than just my name please let me know! I would like to graduate this spring if possible! I am substituting now and I get a pay increase with a 4 year degree! Please let me know Thanks Mean Jim I'm not sure I could, in good conscience, respond favorably to a student who used the phrase "butt heads" in an email to me... |
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« Reply #2868 on: February 05, 2008, 04:35:07 PM » |
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This just in:
Thank you very much for writting me, Mrs. ccteach it's just that things have been crazy at my house because on last monday i found out that my dad has a brain tumor and my mom has to have back surgery cause her lower back went out on her and then last saturday my 16 year old sister was raped and her counceling has just ended and i have been doing all me homework and understand the first chapters along with the syllabus....and sorry for just writting you back now but i dont get online a whole lot..but i would like to try and meet up with you on Friday before class if this is ok then i will see you then if not then please call my cell phone at xxx-xxx-xxxx thank you very much again....
What do they say? OMG.
This is sad, I know. I feel for the student and for what her family is going through. I'm also very worn out from reading her email!
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« Reply #2869 on: February 05, 2008, 04:38:11 PM » |
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And wondering a bit if this is all true? You'd know better than I do, and yes certainly sometimes life piles it on, but this does seem a bit much. Not that I'd necessarily say anything to her, except possibly that she should visit the writing center.
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« Reply #2870 on: February 05, 2008, 05:44:34 PM » |
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From a student last seen in my office in April 2006. Who wants to declare my major so as to graduate this semester. No communication in the meantime. Hi This is Mean Jim I talked to you a few semester ago about graduating with a [fannie's program's] degree I was short a few credits but should have them by now!!! I tried to see you at your office but our hours kind of butt heads!!! Could you look and see if I qualfy or what I need for it! If you need more than just my name please let me know! I would like to graduate this spring if possible! I am substituting now and I get a pay increase with a 4 year degree! Please let me know Thanks Mean Jim Dear Mr. Jim: Thank you for your interest in a [fannie's program] degree. I respectfully refer you to publication QWZ-2644359, which specifically states that use of more than two exclamation points in a paragraph or a maximum of three for an entire e-mail disqualifies one from participation in this program. However, I believe that there is no exclamation point limit on majors in [fannie's least-favorite colleague in another discipline's program], so perhaps you should speak to Dr. [Fannie's least-favorite colleague] concerning the option of changing to that major. Thanks again for inquiring, and we wish you the best of luck in your academic endeavors in another department and in your future career. Yes, I know. That'd get Fannie fired right quick. Also, the chances are good that least-favorite-colleague is in the same program. Still, there might be some sort of carrot to inspire Mean Jim to go plague bedevil inflict himself upon investigate some other major.
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« Reply #2871 on: February 06, 2008, 11:33:35 AM » |
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This just in:
Thank you very much for writting me, Mrs. ccteach it's just that things have been crazy at my house because on last monday i found out that my dad has a brain tumor and my mom has to have back surgery cause her lower back went out on her and then last saturday my 16 year old sister was raped and her counseling has just ended and i have been doing all me homework and understand the first chapters along with the syllabus....and sorry for just writting you back now but i don't get online a whole lot..but i would like to try and meet up with you on Friday before class if this is ok then i will see you then if not then please call my cell phone at xxx-xxx-xxxx thank you very much again....
What do they say? OMG.
This is sad, I know. I feel for the student and for what her family is going through. I'm also very worn out from reading her email!
I had something similar this past semester - student told me she couldn't concentrate b/c of her litany of health issues - I just told her that sometimes life can throw us some really difficult challenges and they should go see a counselor at the university and her the name and contact number. I also gave her the whole "some things are more important than my class so maybe you should just drop it" schpeel. I just decided I had to have boundaries for this kind of stuff and not let students life problems affect me, so have started referring all these kinds of things to the counseling center and keeping my distance. That way I don't have to decide if it's a load of BS and if it's not my conscience is clear since I've directed them toward some help. |
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« Reply #2872 on: February 06, 2008, 03:29:13 PM » |
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This just in:
Thank you very much for writting me, Mrs. ccteach it's just that things have been crazy at my house because on last monday i found out that my dad has a brain tumor and my mom has to have back surgery cause her lower back went out on her and then last saturday my 16 year old sister was raped and her counseling has just ended and i have been doing all me homework and understand the first chapters along with the syllabus....
What do they say? OMG.
This is sad, I know. I feel for the student and for what her family is going through. I'm also very worn out from reading her email!
I had something similar this past semester - student told me she couldn't concentrate b/c of her litany of health issues - I just told her that sometimes life can throw us some really difficult challenges and they should go see a counselor at the university and her the name and contact number. I also gave her the whole "some things are more important than my class so maybe you should just drop it" schpeel. I just decided I had to have boundaries for this kind of stuff and not let students life problems affect me, so have started referring all these kinds of things to the counseling center and keeping my distance. That way I don't have to decide if it's a load of BS and if it's not my conscience is clear since I've directed them toward some help. Yes, I forwarded her email to the dean of students. I like how you put it, sciprof: "some things are more important than my class" |
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« Reply #2873 on: February 06, 2008, 03:32:45 PM » |
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Now, this just in:
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Check out my Facebook profile
Hi ccteach (used my first name, by the way),
I set up a Facebook profile with my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile.
Thanks,
Student
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Has anyone else been invited to be their student's "facebook friend"? I find this creepy!
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« Reply #2874 on: February 06, 2008, 03:52:16 PM » |
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Yes, I joined b/c I sponsor a student organization and it's customary at my institution to join so you can send out announcements.
Now, I have many Facebook friends among the student body. Do I like it? No. It's weird.
The worst part is when they send out pokes, gifts, queries, and birthday messages. Bizarre, and to my mind not-so-appropriate.
But here I am...
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« Reply #2875 on: February 06, 2008, 03:54:55 PM » |
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They haven't done that to me yet. I do sometimes get emails that a student has obviously just shotgunned to everyone in his or her address book, though.
Here's one I got today, nearly three weeks into the semester:
"this is _________ I have been missing class. But it not really my
fault cuase i tore some stuff in my right knee so I had to go home for
my doctors appointment and i havent had the gas money to get back yet
so if you can e-mail the home work"
Now. Those of you who claim that other writing samples you have seen in other threads are "middle school" level writing? Yes, you. Read this, please. This is from a college sophomore. S/he/it has a 2.something GPA.
I wish I could say it is unique.
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« Reply #2876 on: February 06, 2008, 04:05:10 PM » |
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"this is _________ I have been missing class. But it not really my
fault cuase i tore some stuff in my right knee so I had to go home for
my doctors appointment and i havent had the gas money to get back yet
so if you can e-mail the home work"
Exactly which part of it is not his fault? The part where he didn't take it upon himself to arrange medical care near his new residence? The part where he didn't get a job to pay for gas for his car? Or the part where the "stuff" in his knee got torn to begin with (though he actually says "i tore..." which implies fault, IMHO)? And then, importantly, whose fault is it? Did you push him down the stairs or something? Is it your fault, BGH? Because if it is, then certainly you owe it to him to email the homework to him. |
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« Reply #2877 on: February 06, 2008, 04:20:38 PM » |
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And then, importantly, whose fault is it? Did you push him down the stairs or something? Is it your fault, BGH? Because if it is, then certainly you owe it to him to email the homework to him.
Students frequently don't understand the difference between "fault" and "responsibility." It might not be his fault that he is injured (or it might, who knows), but nevertheless it is his responsibility to get the material. VP |
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« Reply #2878 on: February 06, 2008, 04:28:07 PM » |
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It's me, again. This is long, but it's not as bad as it appears!
I received yet another email from a student who missed class. I decided to compile all of the emails I have received this semester having to do with students being absent. We're not done with the first month yet! This does not include the calls that I have received.
Please read the following excerpt from my syllabus. I decided to put in writing what I usually just say in class. Folks, it seems that this made things worse! I am tired of sounding like the mean one that doesn't want to help those who may have legitimately missed class, but I told them the first day that my time and energy needs to go towards those students who attend.
Syllabus excerpt:
ATTENDANCE AND PROMPTNESS POLICIES
The first step to success is to be there. blah, blah, blah... In the event of an absence, please follow these steps:
1. Call or email a classmate for the missed assignments/ announcements. It’s more efficient to contact a classmate rather than your instructor.
2. Photocopy a classmate’s lecture notes A.S.A.P.
3. View the videos that go along with your textbook covering the material you missed. The videos can be viewed in The Learning Center or checked out of the library.
4. Visit the text's website to practice problems.
5. Get missed information outside of class time, not when class is in session.
6. If you still have further questions or concerns after completing the previous 4 steps, please let your instructor know. Note: Your instructor may ask to see your lecture notes at anytime.
Here are the emails... please just read what's in italics since your time is too precious, I'm sure!
Hi this is ********. I had to miss class due to a family emergency, i dont normally miss class but it was one of those things I couldnt miss. I was wondering if there was a good time to meet with you to set up a time to go over things, if it would be easier my cell number is *****. Thanks for your time.
I have a court date this Thursday at 9am. I am hoping it will not affect my attendence at class. I can not reschdule this court date it is very important and has already been rescheduled once. I do not know anyones numbers or anyones name let alone in class. I will get someones number today hopefully so I can see what I miss if the court runs into class. If I can make half of the class I will do so. I just wanted to inform you that I don't miss class in less it is something serious like this.
I am in your 12:40 intro class today. I was wanting to tell you, the reason why I couldn't make it is because my baby was sick and I had to take him to the hospital.. I am sorry. Could you tell me what I miss? my name is ***********
This is ********** and I cann't make it to class today. I have a flat tire and the tire shops here in Owensville do not open until 9 and then class would be over. I am soooo Sorry, if you could would you please email me any homework we do today and then if you want me to I can attempt to send you my homework though email or I can give it to you before class on Monday. Sorry for the inconvince and once again not being in class.
Sorry I wasn't able to attend your class this morning. I work part-time for ******** Fire and we received an alarm this morning at shift change, so I was unable to make to class. Could you please tell me what I missed today and if any homework was assigned or collected. Thank you and sorry for any inconvenience.
I missed class on wed night because I was sick. I was hoping that you would let me know what we went over in class that night so I could work on it at home or with a learning center tutor. Thank you very much
Students just refuse to ask their classmates what they missed. Aaargh! I need some advice! What isn't clear? What more should I do besides being more of a tough_ _ _?
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« Reply #2879 on: February 06, 2008, 04:29:28 PM » |
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Students frequently don't understand the difference between "fault" and "responsibility."
It might not be his fault that he is injured (or it might, who knows), but nevertheless it is his responsibility to get the material.
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