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[kaysixteen]

If you wash my car, I will give you a quarter and two bonus points on the next test.

[alleyoxenfree]

Three or four of my students doing reasonably well disappeared after pledging sororities or fraternities.  Next semester, I'm going to refuse to give them the grade progress reports they want and need to pledge. 

[systeme_d_]

Three or four of my students doing reasonably well disappeared after pledging sororities or fraternities.  Next semester, I'm going to refuse to give them the grade progress reports they want and need to pledge. 

What's that on your chest, mister? A pledge pin on your uniform??

[alleyoxenfree]

Three or four of my students doing reasonably well disappeared after pledging sororities or fraternities.  Next semester, I'm going to refuse to give them the grade progress reports they want and need to pledge. 

What's that on your chest, mister? A pledge pin on your uniform??

That's going to be me.  Complete with spitting.  I'm sorry, but a college cannot be serious about retention if they allow freshmen to pledge.  The only thing that will help them retain is a serious drinking problem.

[magistra]

Uh, you'd better check your handbook to make sure that's allowed.  And announce it in the syllabus.  It's not fair to students to keep them from pledging just because you don't like it.  So they flunk out -- that's their right, too.

[alleyoxenfree]

I do put it in my syllabus that I don't calculate grades mid-semester.   For athletes, I fill out their progress reports.  Frat and sororities are private entities, so I take your point and will check whether profs have to comply with their requests.  I do on principle refuse to go to their dinners when students invite me, and I explain why.  I think they're really unhealthy.  And I don't think it's entirely their choice to drop out or not when the college is pressuring faculty to retain students.  We're not miracle workers when there are organizations working against us.  They can't have it both ways.

[llanfair]

Gawd, I'm glad fraternities/sororities aren't an issue up here.  It seems to me that they give faculty another pressure-filled headache to deal with, and the payoffs for the students can be pretty stressful as well.

[thrillcheese]

Moving to a school with no Greek system mean I never have to read another paper about how by joining a frat or sorority, a student is making important connections and life-long friends..... gah!

[aandsdean]

Moving to a school with no Greek system mean I never have to read another paper about how by joining a frat or sorority, a student is making important connections and life-long friends..... gah!

Who, through the arduous process of rush, become closer to them than their biological brothers and sisters!

(I always wondered how 2 days of stupid humiliation could be a better bonding experience than 18 or so years of whatever it is that happens between siblings.  Silly me.)

[philrels108]

Three or four of my students doing reasonably well disappeared after pledging sororities or fraternities.  Next semester, I'm going to refuse to give them the grade progress reports they want and need to pledge. 

What's that on your chest, mister? A pledge pin on your uniform??

It's a Delta pin, sir.

[kaysixteen]

YOU ARE WORTHLESS AND WEAK.  GET DOWN AND GIVE ME TWENTY!!!

[onion]

Moving to a school with no Greek system mean I never have to read another paper about how by joining a frat or sorority, a student is making important connections and life-long friends..... gah!

Who, through the arduous process of rush, become closer to them than their biological brothers and sisters!

(I always wondered how 2 days of stupid humiliation could be a better bonding experience than 18 or so years of whatever it is that happens between siblings.  Silly me.)

Yes, but my biological siblings never held my hair back while I, wearing a borrowed party dress, vomited and moaned "I love you guys."

Actually, I've never done that, which may explain why I'm lonely and friendless.

[aandsdean]

Moving to a school with no Greek system mean I never have to read another paper about how by joining a frat or sorority, a student is making important connections and life-long friends..... gah!

Who, through the arduous process of rush, become closer to them than their biological brothers and sisters!

(I always wondered how 2 days of stupid humiliation could be a better bonding experience than 18 or so years of whatever it is that happens between siblings.  Silly me.)

Yes, but my biological siblings never held my hair back while I, wearing a borrowed party dress, vomited and moaned "I love you guys."

Actually, I've never done that, which may explain why I'm lonely and friendless.

Correlation does not equal causation, of course, but in this instance, perhaps....

[mended_drum]

Uh, you'd better check your handbook to make sure that's allowed.  And announce it in the syllabus.  It's not fair to students to keep them from pledging just because you don't like it.  So they flunk out -- that's their right, too.

I arbitrarily decided not to fill out those progress reports about seven years ago.  I just said no, and explained that I'll tell the student what his or her average is at any time, but I won't sign or fill out a form for another agency, as I had FERPA concerns.  A couple of years later, the forms mysteriously disappeared.  I'm pretty sure that someone protested, the dean thought about it, then told the Greek life committee that no one was filling out those forms anymore.

We don't do them for athletes either, by the way.  We're required to keep attendance, and we do report midterm grades, so I don't think we need the progress reports for particular students.

[aandsdean]

Uh, you'd better check your handbook to make sure that's allowed.  And announce it in the syllabus.  It's not fair to students to keep them from pledging just because you don't like it.  So they flunk out -- that's their right, too.

I arbitrarily decided not to fill out those progress reports about seven years ago.  I just said no, and explained that I'll tell the student what his or her average is at any time, but I won't sign or fill out a form for another agency, as I had FERPA concerns.  A couple of years later, the forms mysteriously disappeared.  I'm pretty sure that someone protested, the dean thought about it, then told the Greek life committee that no one was filling out those forms anymore.

We don't do them for athletes either, by the way.  We're required to keep attendance, and we do report midterm grades, so I don't think we need the progress reports for particular students.

If the student gives you the form and asks you to fill it out, there's no FERPA concern.  The right to privacy belongs to the student, and s/he can give it away as s/he chooses. 

Doesn't mean I don't agree with the basic position, however.  When I was a TA at Frat-U (UVa), I routinely penalized students for missing class for rush and that sort of thing.  It was a pleasure.