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« Reply #11235 on: February 11, 2010, 12:08:51 PM » |
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1) IF snowy is a graduate student, why is he still around after flunking a course for plagiarism last semester? What graduate school gives second chances for plagiarists?
2) Probably oughtta cut Studmeister a break... with alll those froshburgers, it really is too much to expect him to ever do any academic work...... ah... well....
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« Reply #11236 on: February 11, 2010, 12:23:57 PM » |
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1) IF snowy is a graduate student, why is he still around after flunking a course for plagiarism last semester? What graduate school gives second chances for plagiarists?
2) Probably oughtta cut Studmeister a break... with alll those froshburgers, it really is too much to expect him to ever do any academic work...... ah... well....
I went to a top rated school, but the dean made the department give a student their doctoral exams again when they were accused of plagiarizing the first time through. |
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« Reply #11237 on: February 11, 2010, 12:32:18 PM » |
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1) IF snowy is a graduate student, why is he still around after flunking a course for plagiarism last semester? What graduate school gives second chances for plagiarists?
2) Probably oughtta cut Studmeister a break... with alll those froshburgers, it really is too much to expect him to ever do any academic work...... ah... well....
I went to a top rated school, but the dean made the department give a student their doctoral exams again when they were accused of plagiarizing the first time through. Excellent idea! Let's make out plagiarizing undergrads take doctoral exams! After all, they're claiming they did all that scholarly work, right? That'll teach 'em. Hee-hee. |
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« Reply #11238 on: February 11, 2010, 01:20:55 PM » |
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So, dean makes dept. give plagiarizing doctoral students second chance on plagiarized comps. Student passes on said second chance, gets doctorate. Now he is looking for professional work-- what are the professors supposed to say about him on LORs, chats with colleagues elsewhere, etc., "Johnny was so promising a student, which is why we were surprised when he cheated on his comps. Thankfully, however, Dean Dunderhead let him take it again, and he passed!"?
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« Reply #11239 on: February 11, 2010, 03:08:29 PM » |
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However, based on the fact that my last several emails to the class and to you specifically (including my "tough noogies" response to this one) bounced due to a full inbox and your cavalier attitude toward this class by adding the very last day of the add period and then leaving in the middle of a class to run an errand, I suspect the problem is more that you don't like the computer and refuse to make an effort rather than a true beyond-your-control emergency.
It could also be that the student gives the college one email address (or is it a school address?) but never bothers to check it, preferring to use mangaheadbanger43258@lizard.com? Or, more likely in my experience, the student knows he or she is supposed to use the "official" school e-mail address, but can't be bothered to check it or delete the many messages that pile up. That's possibly true, but what about the argument of sending me an email from his official school address informing me that he doesn't have computer access? I'm still calling shenanigans on that one. |
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« Reply #11240 on: February 11, 2010, 03:17:48 PM » |
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So, dean makes dept. give plagiarizing doctoral students second chance on plagiarized comps. Student passes on said second chance, gets doctorate. Now he is looking for professional work-- what are the professors supposed to say about him on LORs, chats with colleagues elsewhere, etc., "Johnny was so promising a student, which is why we were surprised when he cheated on his comps. Thankfully, however, Dean Dunderhead let him take it again, and he passed!"?
Kay, is this for real or did I miss something? (I'm not exactly the most observant person right now.) |
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« Reply #11241 on: February 11, 2010, 03:24:10 PM » |
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So, dean makes dept. give plagiarizing doctoral students second chance on plagiarized comps. Student passes on said second chance, gets doctorate. Now he is looking for professional work-- what are the professors supposed to say about him on LORs, chats with colleagues elsewhere, etc., "Johnny was so promising a student, which is why we were surprised when he cheated on his comps. Thankfully, however, Dean Dunderhead let him take it again, and he passed!"?
Kay, is this for real or did I miss something? (I'm not exactly the most observant person right now.) Kay is referring to this, I believe: 1) IF snowy is a graduate student, why is he still around after flunking a course for plagiarism last semester? What graduate school gives second chances for plagiarists?
2) Probably oughtta cut Studmeister a break... with alll those froshburgers, it really is too much to expect him to ever do any academic work...... ah... well....
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« Reply #11242 on: February 11, 2010, 03:29:57 PM » |
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Hmm. Never saw that post. I hate the way the fora sometimes skips some of the most recent posts. GRRR.
That is horrible. I can't imagine anyone in the department giving him an LOR. And SCs will see right through that omission.
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« Reply #11243 on: February 12, 2010, 09:29:25 PM » |
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This semester I ramped up the directions for how to upload assignments to our CMS, so absolutely no one could have an excuse for not knowing how to do it. Part of the assignment is correctly naming and saving the assignment in a common word processing format, like .doc, .docx, or .rtf. I also told them for the first assignment, I'll email them to confirm that I received their assignments either correctly, improperly formatted, or not at all. I'll paraphrase my portions of an email conversation with a "not at all" student. Dr. P: I'm emailing to let you know I did not receive Assignment X from you via the CMS. Please re-read the syllabus directions on how to upload your assignments, and please also note the late paper policy for future assignments. Student X: My assignment was sent after 4/ 16:46.
I just sent it again... But I didn't name it correctly the first time. So I corrected it.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Dr. P: I still did not receive your assignment. Perhaps you hit "save" instead of "send"? Student X: I hit send. I don't know why it doesn't show up. Could it be the document because I don't have microsoft word as yet? I'm going to try again.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Dr. P: That is probably it. Please re-read the syllabus where it specifies the appropriate word processing formats for the assignments. I suggest you use a school computer if you do not have a word processing program. Who wants to bet whether the assignment was "Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile"? And jeebus, if you can afford a BlackBerry, you can afford the cheap version of Word available from the bookstore. |
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« Reply #11244 on: February 13, 2010, 02:35:32 PM » |
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It's not as if (the freeware text processor) OpenOffice can't create .doc-files.
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« Reply #11245 on: February 13, 2010, 04:22:34 PM » |
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It's not as if (the freeware text processor) OpenOffice can't create .doc-files.
It's not as if every single computer in every single computer lab on campus or the local Kinko's has Office with Word readily available. |
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« Reply #11246 on: February 13, 2010, 05:43:48 PM » |
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It's not as if (the freeware text processor) OpenOffice can't create .doc-files.
It's not as if every single computer in every single computer lab on campus or the local Kinko's has Office with Word readily available. Exactly. That, plus I always plug Open Office to my students precisely for the purpose of completing our assignments. My students literally have no excuses this year for not knowing how to do the work or being able to complete it, and yet they amaze me every time. Actually, they're not even resorting to excuses, they're just saying they completed the assignment--despite the fact that no such assignment has appeared in my CMS or email. I have put a moratorium on responding to student emails today and they will get my much calmer responses tomorrow. |
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« Reply #11247 on: February 13, 2010, 05:58:20 PM » |
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My students literally have no excuses this year for not knowing how to do the work or being able to complete it, and yet they amaze me every time. Actually, they're not even resorting to excuses, they're just saying they completed the assignment--despite the fact that no such assignment has appeared in my CMS or email. I have put a moratorium on responding to student emails today and they will get my much calmer responses tomorrow.
I had a student last week who claimed she had left her assignment in my physical mailbox. A couple of hours later, I looked. Empty. I called her attention to this. A few hours later, they were there. Now, I can see how a person could mess up an electronic submission, but I find it a bit difficult to believe that she had a false memory of placing papers in my mailbox. |
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« Reply #11248 on: February 13, 2010, 06:01:03 PM » |
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My students literally have no excuses this year for not knowing how to do the work or being able to complete it, and yet they amaze me every time. Actually, they're not even resorting to excuses, they're just saying they completed the assignment--despite the fact that no such assignment has appeared in my CMS or email. I have put a moratorium on responding to student emails today and they will get my much calmer responses tomorrow.
I had a student last week who claimed she had left her assignment in my physical mailbox. A couple of hours later, I looked. Empty. I called her attention to this. A few hours later, they were there. Now, I can see how a person could mess up an electronic submission, but I find it a bit difficult to believe that she had a false memory of placing papers in my mailbox. So...I take it you two are against the "liar, liar, pants on fire" replies? |
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« Reply #11249 on: February 13, 2010, 08:19:11 PM » |
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My students literally have no excuses this year for not knowing how to do the work or being able to complete it, and yet they amaze me every time. Actually, they're not even resorting to excuses, they're just saying they completed the assignment--despite the fact that no such assignment has appeared in my CMS or email. I have put a moratorium on responding to student emails today and they will get my much calmer responses tomorrow.
I had a student last week who claimed she had left her assignment in my physical mailbox. A couple of hours later, I looked. Empty. I called her attention to this. A few hours later, they were there. Now, I can see how a person could mess up an electronic submission, but I find it a bit difficult to believe that she had a false memory of placing papers in my mailbox. So...I take it you two are against the "liar, liar, pants on fire" replies? Also, I suspect I'd be skeptical of the claim that she tucked them into the box of a different prof by mistake. But this is why a nice non-confrontational reply of "If I don't get it by the deadline, the late penalty applies" is so handy. Let's see; on this computer, I now have OpenOffice, MS Office, and WordPerfect Office. Perhaps I should go look for an old Lotus Office suite to round out the collection. |
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