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« Reply #10170 on: November 28, 2009, 03:05:49 PM » |
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This doesn't actually count as an email but it is an electronic submission.
OK - blackboard assignment due last Wed. I have been working my way through them (painfully) on and off all week. (There are 60 plus to grade, as well papers from my other classes). Today I reach student DumbBoys assignment - in the comments section he writes "my attachment is just appearing as characters and symbols. I don't know what is wrong with it. I have Microsoft Word 2007. Is it ok if i get a printed copy of the assignment? If not i understand..... "
did he mention it in class? did he bring me a hard copy to class? did he email me with the problem? did he try cutting and pasting his assignment into the submissions section? No. He did not. So now - well over a week later I have no assignment to grade. How hard is it to try to actively correct a problem rather then this passive attempt?
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I sense a scam. Didn't someone post a link in these parts to a site where corrupted files could be purchased, to give the student more time to complete the assignment?
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« Reply #10171 on: November 28, 2009, 04:26:29 PM » |
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I sense a scam. Didn't someone post a link in these parts to a site where corrupted files could be purchased, to give the student more time to complete the assignment?
Only $4.95! I've yet to see a syllabus for a class that requires electronic submissions without a corrupted files clause (as in, "If I receive a corrupted file, that's what I'll grade"). But I'd guess that a student who sends a corrupted file to buy time would probably play dumb rather than comment on it, as Rowan's student has.
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« Reply #10172 on: November 28, 2009, 04:31:54 PM » |
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he found the homework sheet - and then put the assignment as an attachment on a different assignment on blackboard - hope that's not a problem.
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« Reply #10173 on: November 28, 2009, 04:36:21 PM » |
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No need to play dumb then, I suppose. (And I missed my edit window, but I broke my link)
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« Reply #10174 on: November 28, 2009, 05:54:02 PM » |
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No need to play dumb then, I suppose. (And I missed my edit window, but I broke my link) I love how corrupted-files.com requires you to fill in a reason why you need a corrupted file: Please Note: I had deadlines with professors too, but I still got my sh*t done on time - it's called Red Bull. If you need an extension, just be honest and ask your professor before you use a corrupted file. I will NOT help you unless you have a very good reason why you have to use a corrupted file. Being lazy is NO EXCUSE! I also love the "keep this site a secret!" admonition on every page. Haha.
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« Reply #10175 on: November 28, 2009, 08:09:03 PM » |
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Well, all students know The Google doesn't work for profs!
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« Reply #10176 on: November 28, 2009, 08:20:45 PM » |
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This just in....dated today....which is SATURDAY.
Subject: ??????????????????????????
hope u had a great thanksgiving! i am needing an in person time to visit about my paper. i have NOT been able to understand any of the citing rules. My daughter's knowledge from mrs (other instructor's)class does NOT seem to apply in any way!!!!! were confused. an d she got an A+ on her paper!!! PLEASE HELP!!! hopefully youll get this early enough for me to still get it in by 2morrow nite. u can call me at 5551234
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There are so many things wrong with this message, not the least of which that she appears to want to meet with me on a SUNDAY.
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« Reply #10177 on: November 28, 2009, 08:51:46 PM » |
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This just in....dated today....which is SATURDAY.
Subject: ??????????????????????????
hope u had a great thanksgiving! i am needing an in person time to visit about my paper. i have NOT been able to understand any of the citing rules. My daughter's knowledge from mrs (other instructor's)class does NOT seem to apply in any way!!!!! were confused. an d she got an A+ on her paper!!! PLEASE HELP!!! hopefully youll get this early enough for me to still get it in by 2morrow nite. u can call me at 5551234
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There are so many things wrong with this message, not the least of which that she appears to want to meet with me on a SUNDAY.
Zuzu, let's step back for a moment: You checked your work e-mail on a Saturday? A Saturday that happened to fall during what most schools recognize as a holiday??? Take a deep breath: two, if you like. Then together we back slowly away. Monday will come soon enough, for everyone.
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i think is good for every one only the think is that we will always scares about that.
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« Reply #10178 on: November 28, 2009, 10:32:38 PM » |
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No need to play dumb then, I suppose. (And I missed my edit window, but I broke my link) I love how corrupted-files.com requires you to fill in a reason why you need a corrupted file: Please Note: I had deadlines with professors too, but I still got my sh*t done on time - it's called Red Bull. If you need an extension, just be honest and ask your professor before you use a corrupted file. I will NOT help you unless you have a very good reason why you have to use a corrupted file. Being lazy is NO EXCUSE! I also love the "keep this site a secret!" admonition on every page. Haha. If I post this link on Facebook, is it a secret any more? Also, their files can't be reverse engineered? I love a challenge. I am positive I can find someone who, in five minutes, can figure out enough about a file to know whether it contains a real term paper or just some gibberish.
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« Reply #10179 on: November 28, 2009, 10:49:08 PM » |
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I sense a scam. Didn't someone post a link in these parts to a site where corrupted files could be purchased, to give the student more time to complete the assignment?
Only $4.95! I've yet to see a syllabus for a class that requires electronic submissions without a corrupted files clause (as in, "If I receive a corrupted file, that's what I'll grade").
But I'd guess that a student who sends a corrupted file to buy time would probably play dumb rather than comment on it, as Rowan's student has. Oh, I've got that one. And, it now needs to be updated to "your file must be non-compressed and in a standard format (.doc, .txt, .pdf, .docx, .rtf) which can be read by standard word processing programs." Freaking students and their zipped files of nothingness.
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« Reply #10180 on: November 28, 2009, 11:55:22 PM » |
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This just in....dated today....which is SATURDAY.
Subject: ??????????????????????????
hope u had a great thanksgiving! i am needing an in person time to visit about my paper. i have NOT been able to understand any of the citing rules. My daughter's knowledge from mrs (other instructor's)class does NOT seem to apply in any way!!!!! were confused. an d she got an A+ on her paper!!! PLEASE HELP!!! hopefully youll get this early enough for me to still get it in by 2morrow nite. u can call me at 5551234
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There are so many things wrong with this message, not the least of which that she appears to want to meet with me on a SUNDAY.
Zuzu, Chime to not opening emails on a long weekend, however, since the deal is done, I suggest that you summarily ignore the helicopter parent (or the lamer snowflake's attempt to make you THINK that mommy is involved).
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« Reply #10181 on: November 29, 2009, 12:03:17 AM » |
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I sense a scam. Didn't someone post a link in these parts to a site where corrupted files could be purchased, to give the student more time to complete the assignment?
Only $4.95! I've yet to see a syllabus for a class that requires electronic submissions without a corrupted files clause (as in, "If I receive a corrupted file, that's what I'll grade"). But I'd guess that a student who sends a corrupted file to buy time would probably play dumb rather than comment on it, as Rowan's student has. This might actually have been done to me earlier in the semester, come to think of it. Why would anyone with a modicum of knowledge of computers even NEED to BUY a corrupted file? The concept is SO simple, albeit one needs to know a bit about computer file formats, but since our darling students are SO savvy, this should not even be an issue. Of course, since the student DID write the paper, and DID keep a backup copy (as they have been taught), then when the file is resent, just check the creation/modification date: proof is in the punch! Despite the website claims that the files are impossible to reverse-engineer, not always QUITE true. A corrupted file is usually PARTIALLY recoverable: compare what was good to the final submission.
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« Reply #10182 on: November 29, 2009, 12:13:43 AM » |
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If I post this link on Facebook, is it a secret any more? Also, their files can't be reverse engineered? I love a challenge. I am positive I can find someone who, in five minutes, can figure out enough about a file to know whether it contains a real term paper or just some gibberish.
Depends on how they create it. If they just fill the file with random garbage, the 'magic number' will not match the document extension, which would be a good indicator of it being falsified. If they botch a legit file in a believable way, though, it may be much more apparent if it's a fake. You'd only corrupt a very small portion to make it unreadable, but the main data would be there (eg. GNU strings ). Especially with Microsoft/etc. moving everything toward XML-based formats nowadays (less binary data, it becomes increasingly clear when a file is a hoax) Rather entrepreneurial, since this whole outfit is really just a way to sell you garbage. Literally. Any student with some brains could generate their own 'corrupted file.' Of course, if they had said requisite equipment, they would probably not need the illicit extension to begin with.
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« Reply #10183 on: November 29, 2009, 03:53:34 AM » |
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I finally signed up so that I can share the following gem:
"Hi sir, I was just looking at my marks online. I need a 92% in your class to maintain my scholarship. I know you can't just give me a 92, but if it's close I'd appreciate it. thanks, B student"
I typed up a response:
Hi B Student,
Do you remember the essay that was due last week? I know you can't just hand-it-in immediately, but if it's close I'd appreciate it. Cheers, Respected Prof.
I was so close to hitting send.
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« Reply #10184 on: November 29, 2009, 11:23:56 AM » |
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This just in....dated today....which is SATURDAY.
Subject: ??????????????????????????
hope u had a great thanksgiving! i am needing an in person time to visit about my paper. i have NOT been able to understand any of the citing rules. My daughter's knowledge from mrs (other instructor's)class does NOT seem to apply in any way!!!!! were confused. an d she got an A+ on her paper!!! PLEASE HELP!!! hopefully youll get this early enough for me to still get it in by 2morrow nite. u can call me at 5551234
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There are so many things wrong with this message, not the least of which that she appears to want to meet with me on a SUNDAY.
Zuzu, Chime to not opening emails on a long weekend, however, since the deal is done, I suggest that you summarily ignore the helicopter parent (or the lamer snowflake's attempt to make you THINK that mommy is involved). Yeah, guilty as charged with checking emails on the weekend. But many of my students are amidst a huge research paper, and I've answered many quick, respectful emails that are helping good students prgress on the paper. Overall, the benefits to keeping good students on track outweigh the negative effects to my emotional well being. Oh, and this isn't someone's mom. It's a non-trad student. Not sure if this makes the email more disturbing or less disturbing.
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