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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2012, 03:32:08 PM » |
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A couple of years ago, I watched a big, butch guy who was a senior in my freshman survey class (outside his field, and a requirement he was taking in his last semester) as he did his required five-minute presentation. The presentation was nicely prepared, and his delivery was clear, enthusiastic, and direct. As I looked at him from the side of the room, though, I could see that his hands were shaking so hard that he could barely hold his notes. Fortunately, he had practiced enough that he didn't need to read them much. Did he earn some brownie points for that presentation that the person in the class who said, "Oh, I would be too scared," and was allowed to do something else missed? You betcha.
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2012, 05:03:43 PM » |
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As much as I love presentation (my elementary school plays were very helpful), I want to whine about my current Flakey Strikes Again moments.
I have a student taking a class with me for the third time and one for the second time. I post the answers to the homework every term. Googling for "answer key <our textbook>" brings up the publisher-supplied answer key in short order and I've seen print-outs in previous terms indicating that students found that key (that's why I only started grading homework upon arm-twisting by the chair). Guess who is not doing all that well on the homework. Guess who are the people who have missed the most class so far, despite bombing the quizzes and tests last time they took the class. Go ahead, guess.
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2012, 05:50:10 PM » |
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Guess who are the people who have missed the most class so far, despite bombing the quizzes and tests last time they took the class. Go ahead, guess.
Um.... you. It must be you, Polly. You've had so many other commitments and volunteer opportunities to take advantage of, and you already know this stuff, having had the keys provided to you in past years, that you just can't yourself motivated to do the homework this term. It's far more fun to lie on your lounge chair and have the cabana boys serenade you.
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2012, 06:36:07 PM » |
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What is a retroactive drop? I've never heard of this.
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2012, 07:01:03 PM » |
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We have retroactive drops, but forks for some catastrophe that kept a student from finishing, like a sudden major illness. The idea is that sometime they can come back, and it is like they never took the class-no F or W on the transcript. However, this is a dean (or higher) decision, not up to the profs
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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2012, 07:25:22 PM » |
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Oh, my god. Yes.
I'm teaching a small-group course for graduating fourth-year students. We meet once a week for 2 1/2 hours or so. Each week, two of them co-facilitate the discussion. They have to provide me with a polished overview and list of discussion questions ahead of time. I'm usually worried about the pair that signs up first, because if they're terrible, they set a bad precedent. To my everlasting joy, the first facilitators were amazing. Their overview was brilliant; they not only understood the readings but drew connections between them. Their questions were fabulous. I praised them to the skies and told the class they were a model to follow. I forwarded their prepared material to the whole class. I made sure everyone had my handout on tips for facilitating a discussion. Yay!
Fast forward a couple of weeks. The two worst students in the class are co-facilitating. One of them is this exchange student who failed a class with me last term because he went home for vacation instead of taking the final exam. The stuff they sent me ahead of time was total crap. They had no understanding of the articles they read. Their questions were randomly plucked out of their butts. After getting my feedback, they made things worse. Between the two of them, they probably said about 200 words during the entire discussion (after reading their "overview" in a droning monotone). They acted like they were on drugs. It was a stunning display of total incompetence.
The materials I got from this week's upcoming presenters are so filled with grammatical errors that they were practically unreadable. These are students who are supposed to be graduating. I'm ready to tear my hair out.
I am grading this group's first papers right now, and I am not being generous. I'm looking at these papers and thinking, "You're about to get a BA, and you can't put a f***ing sentence together?"
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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2012, 09:10:11 PM » |
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I am grading this group's first papers right now, and I am not being generous. I'm looking at these papers and thinking, "You're about to get a BA, and you can't put a f***ing sentence together?"
I sometimes console myself with this thought: If these creatures can get jobs, I will never have to worry about finding gainful employment. The rest of the time, I just whimper and weep.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2012, 01:00:48 PM » |
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I have a flake who is also charming, and probably was able to charm through a lot prior to grad school. Over the last year or two.....
1. Dropped a course after add drop, "forget" to officially drop, had to use up some of my "cred points" to get the dean to allow the late drop.
2. Ran out of time to do a final paper, got a one term extension, still no paper, grade becomes an F and the requirement to re-take the course with a passing grade. Flakes out about taking the course the next time it is offered. Asks if the paper submitted now (more than a year late) will turn the grade from F to pass. (Obviously does not get the concept of an extension.) Nope, you really do need to take the course again.
3. Interested in new curriculum, would need to take "Basketweaving 700" next term. Asks about us counting a non-credit workshop from 2 or 3 years ago that we ran on Basketweaving in its place. (Like I expect a lot of schools, we sometimes test out ideas in non-credit workshops, some of the content making its way into actual courses later on.)
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__________ Zharkov's Razor: Adapting Zharkov a bit to this situation, ignorance and confusion can explain a lot.
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« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 10:06:56 AM » |
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I am grading this group's first papers right now, and I am not being generous. I'm looking at these papers and thinking, "You're about to get a BA, and you can't put a f***ing sentence together?"
Story of my life sometimes.
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« Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 10:44:53 AM » |
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I am grading this group's first papers right now, and I am not being generous. I'm looking at these papers and thinking, "You're about to get a BA, and you can't put a f***ing sentence together?"
Story of my life sometimes. The story that I tell myself to comfort myself is that they are trying to see how little work they can do and still pass; thus, when they fail their first paper with me, they will then display that they do know how to write a complete sentence on their next paper.
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