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Author Topic: Why are Hispanics/Latinos counted as a race or an ethnicity by universities etc?  (Read 42161 times)
thinkuniversity
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« on: October 13, 2006, 09:14:43 AM »

Why is it that universities, public school systems and the media do not follow The US Census Bureau's Guidance on the Presentation and Comparison of Race and Hispanic Origin Data? The Bureau's "Guidance on the Presentation and Comparison" clearly says one is not supposed to compare race with the category Hispanic/Latino? According to the guidelines that the US Census Bureau follows, race and Hispanic origin are treated as two separate and distinct concepts in accordance with guidelines from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB).

Also, why aren't Amerindians from outside the US counted as a race along with Native Americans/American Indians? There are more than 26 million Amerindians of Mexican national heritage living in the US. 90% of Mexico's population is Amerindian/mestizo. In the US a person who is mestizo is legally a Native American/American Indian.


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Ethnic Group
People of an ethnic group are of the same race and the members identify with each other most times on the basis of a common genealogy or ancestry. Ethnic groups are also usually united by common cultural, behavioral, native linguistic, or religious practices. But this becomes a problem in the US, because various Latin American ethnic groups, blacks, Amerindians, Asians and whites are typically lumped together as "Hispanics/Latinos." They in fact do not share a common genealogy or ancestry.
Most blacks in Latin American came there by the means of being enslaved by the European Spanish and Portuguese. Mulatto blacks in Latin America became mixed with European whites in the same way blacks in the US had offspring children by their slave owners of English, German, Scottish, Dutch, Spanish and French heritage. But, in the US mulatto people are black. On the other hand the Amerindians of Latin America were colonized by the Spanish and Portuguese. The language spoken and names worn by these Latin Amerindians and blacks have their origin given to them by the Spanish and Portuguese whole colonized them or enslaved them. In Brazil (who are not Hispanic, but are Latino) and in other parts of Latin America, such as Brazil, many blacks worship African religions and Amerindians worship native American religions not of European origin. European Latin Americans and Amerindians in Mexico are Christian Catholics. Latin blacks from Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic tend to be followers of the Christian religion.

White Cubans are not the same ethnicity or race as black Cubans. White Mexicans are not the same ethnicity or as the 90% Amerindian Mexicans. White Puerto Ricans are not the same ethnicity as black Puerto Ricans...and so on.
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2006, 09:17:31 AM »

Two or more races
Yet, Two or more races goes from 2,224,082 in year 2000 to just 605,329 in year 2005.
       
2001
Some other race: 12,038,618
Two or more races: 1,883,197
Two races including Some other race: 1,334,220 
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races: 548,977
 
2002
Some other race: 13,531,921
Two or more races: 2,002,142
Two races including Some other race: 1,404,011
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races: 598,131
 
2003
Some other race: 12,896,496
Two or more races: 1,485,649
Two races including Some other race:      945,940
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races:    539,709
Total Hispanic or Latino: 39,194,837
 
2004
Some other race: 14,223,537
Two or more races: 1,452,860
Two races including Some other race: 904,394
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races: 548,466

 
Here’s where the data comes from.
 http://www.census.gov/popest/national/asrh/NC-EST2005-srh.html
 
Source: US Census Bureau
United States Hispanic/Latino by Race
Estimate 2005

White: 39,488,517
Black or African American: 1,584,748
American Indian and Alaska Native: 630,079
Asian: 266,958
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 111,593
Two or more races: 605,329
Total Hispanic or Latino: 42,687,224


United States Hispanic/Latino by Race
Estimate 2004


White: 23,673,369
Black or African American: 629,827
American Indian and Alaska Native: 298,547
Asian: 141,880
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 39,176
Some other race: 14,223,537
Two or more races: 1,452,860
Two races including Some other race: 904,394
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races: 548,466
Total Hispanic or Latino: 40,459,196


United States Hispanic/Latino by Race
Estimate 2003


White: 23,682,745
Black or African American: 636,339
American Indian and Alaska Native: 310,566
Asian: 138,885
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 44,157
Some other race: 12,896,496
Two or more races: 1,485,649
Two races including Some other race: 945,940
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races: 539,709
Total Hispanic or Latino: 39,194,837


United States Hispanic/Latino by Race
Estimate 2002


White: 21,303,479
Black or African American: 592,587
American Indian and Alaska Native: 308,278
Asian: 99,822
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 34,246
Some other race: 13,531,921
Two or more races: 2,002,142
Two races including Some other race: 1,404,011
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races: 598,131
Total Hispanic or Latino: 37,872,475


United States Hispanic/Latino by Race
Estimate 2001


White: 21,365,294
Black or African American: 503,374
American Indian and Alaska Native: 264,170
Asian: 100,210
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 45,918
Some other race: 12,038,618
Two or more races: 1,883,197
Two races including Some other race: 1,334,220
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races: 548,977
Total Hispanic or Latino: 36,200,781


United States Hispanic/Latino by Race
Census 2000


White: 16,907,852
Black or African American: 710,353
American Indian and Alaska Native: 407,073
Asian: 119,829
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 45,326
Some other race: 14,891,303
Two or more races: 2,224,082
Total Hispanic or Latino: 35,305,818
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2006, 09:19:05 AM »

Definition:
The concept of race as used by the Census Bureau reflects self-identification by people according to the race or races with which they most closely identify. These categories are socio-political constructs and should not be interpreted as being scientific or anthropological in nature. Furthermore, the race categories include both racial and national-origin groups.
The racial classifications used by the Census Bureau adhere to the October 30,1997, Federal Register Notice entitled,"Revisions to the Standards for the Classification of Federal Data on Race and Ethnicity" issued by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). The OMB requires five minimum categories (White, Black or African America, American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander) for race. The race categories are described below with a sixth category, "Some other race," added with OMB approval. In addition to the five race groups, the OMB also states that respondents should be offered the option of selecting one or more races.

White. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as "White" or report entries such as Irish, German, Italian, Lebanese, Near Easterner, Arab, or Polish.

Black or African American. A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as "Black, African Am., or Negro,"or provide written entries such as African American, Afro American, Kenyan, Nigerian, or Haitian.

American Indian or Alaska Native. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North and South America (including Central America) and who maintain tribal affiliation or community attachment.

Asian. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam. It includes "Asian Indian," "Chinese," "Filipino," "Korean," "Japanese," "Vietnamese," and "Other Asian."

Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, or other Pacific Islands. It includes people who indicate their race as "Native Hawaiian," "Guamanian or Chamorro," "Samoan," and "Other Pacific Islander."

Some other race. Includes all other responses not included in the "White", "Black or African American", "American Indian or Alaska Native", "Asian" and "Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander" race categories described above. Respondents providing write-in entries such as multiracial, mixed, interracial, or a Hispanic/Latino group (for example, Mexican, Puerto Rican, or Cuban) in the "Some other race" write-in space are included in this category. Estimates for years after 2000 reflect an allocation of this category among the other categories.

Two or more races. People may have chosen to provide two or more races either by checking two or more race response check boxes, by providing multiple write-in responses, or by some combination of check boxes and write-in responses.

Take a look at Miami-Dade's demographic to see how Hispanic/Latino is not a race and not an ethnic group.


Miami-Dade County 2005 population Demographics by race
Source: US Census Bureau
Includes Hispanics/Latinos below
White: 1,694,854
Black or African American: 475,237
American Indian and Alaska Native: 9,100
Asian: 38,907
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 1,816
Some other race: 150,832
Total population (including Hispanics/Latinos): 2,329,187
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Hispanics/Latinos in Miami-Dade County as included above
Hispanic or Latino (of any race/ethnicity) race defined above
Mexican: 43,361
Puerto Rican: 80,854
Cuban: 736,073
Other countries of origin for Hispanic or Latino: 563,409
Total population of Hispanics/Latinos in Miami-Dade County: 1,423,697 (total included in the 2,329,187 total above)


Los Angeles County 2005 population Demographics by race
Source: US Census Bureau
Includes Hispanics/Latinos below
White: 5,178,315
Black or African American: 929,092
American Indian and Alaska Native: 103,320
Asian: 1,352,136
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 42,945
Some other race: 2,424,639
Total population (including Hispanics/Latinos): 9,758,886
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Hispanics/Latinos in Los Angeles County as included above
Hispanic or Latino (of any race/ethnicity) race defined above
Mexican:  3,571,258
Puerto Rican: 41,673
Cuban: 40,304
Other countries of origin for:  960,215
Total population of Hispanics/Latinos in Los Angeles County: 4,613,450 (total included in the 9,758,886 total above)
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2006, 09:21:18 AM »

Now here's the break down of where the majority of those classified as Hispanic/Latino come from or have their place of origin.

By Region

As of 2005 Hispanic/Latino (of any race) population in the South have the following countries of origin
Hispanic/Latino Total population (of any race): 14,334,439
Mexican: 8,748,146
Puerto Rican: 979,374
Cuban: 1,113,131
Other Latin American places of origin: 3,493,788

As of 2005 Hispanic/Latino (of any race) population in the Midwest have the following countries of origin
Hispanic/Latino Total population (of any race): 3,756,348
Mexican: 2,841,940
Puerto Rican 359,203
Cuban 46,573
Other Latin American places of origin: 508,632


As of 2005 Hispanic/Latino (of any race) population in the Northeast have the following countries of origin
Hispanic/Latino Total population (of any race): 5,840,941
Mexican: 681,831
Puerto Rican: 2,164,944
Cuban: 178,891
Other Latin American places of origin: 2,815,275


As of 2005 Hispanic/Latino (of any race) population in the West have the following countries of origin
Hispanic/Latino Total population (of any race): 17,938,975
Mexican 14,509,630
Puerto Rican 277,796
Cuban 122,979
Other Latin American places of origin: 3,028,570

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Hispanic/Latino origin by state

As of 2005 Hispanic/Latino (of any race) population in New York have the following countries of origin
Hispanic/Latino Total population (of any race): 3,028,658
Mexican: 346,783
Puerto Rican 1,057,423
Cuban 66,687
Other Latin American places of origin: 1,557,765


As of 2005 Hispanic/Latino (of any race) population in Florida have the following countries of origin
Hispanic/Latino Total population (of any race): 3,414,414
Mexican: 531,902
Puerto Rican: 645,240
Cuban 1,000,151
Other Latin American places of origin: 1,237,121


As of 2005 Hispanic/Latino (of any race) population in Texas have the following countries of origin
Hispanic/Latino Total population (of any race): 7,903,079
Mexican: 6,583,095
Puerto Rican 87,534
Cuban: 34,375
Other Latin American places of origin: 1,198,075


As of 2005 Hispanic/Latino (of any race) population in California have the following countries of origin
Hispanic/Latino Total population (of any race): 12,523,379
Mexican: 10,352,618
Puerto Rican: 147,076
Cuban: 83,205
Other Latin American places of origin: 1,940,480


As of 2005 Hispanic/Latino (of any race) population in Illinois have the following countries of origin
Hispanic/Latino Total population (of any race): 1,804,619
Mexican: 1,418,049
Puerto Rican: 174,770
Cuban: 23,406
Other Latin American places of origin: 188,394


As of 2005 Hispanic/Latino (of any race) population in Arizona have the following countries of origin
Hispanic/Latino Total population (of any race): 1,668,524
Mexican: 1,481,707
Puerto Rican: 26,439
Cuban: 8,319
Other Latin American places of origin: 152,059


As of 2005 Hispanic/Latino (of any race) population in Ohio have the following countries of origin
Hispanic/Latino Total population (of any race): 253,889
Mexican: 124,721
Puerto Rican: 74,348
Cuban: 4,248
Other Latin American places of origin: 50,572


As of 2005 Hispanic/Latino (of any race) population in Pennsylvania have the following countries of origin
Hispanic/Latino Total population (of any race): 484,679
Mexican: 86,440
Puerto Rican: 260,580
Cuban: 12,839
Other Latin American places of origin: 124,820


As of 2005 Hispanic/Latino (of any race) population in Georgia have the following countries of origin
Hispanic/Latino Total population (of any race): 625,028
Mexican: 417,452
Puerto Rican: 46,128
Cuban: 19,049
Other Latin American places of origin: 142,399


As of 2005 Hispanic/Latino (of any race) population in North Carolina have the following countries of origin
Hispanic/Latino Total population (of any race): 533,087
Mexican: 355,279
Puerto Rican: 40,848
Cuban: 10,094
Other Latin American places of origin: 126,866
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2006, 09:23:02 AM »

United States Hispanic/Latino population by Specific National Place of Origin
Estimate 2004


North America:
Mexican: 25,894,763
Puerto Rican: 3,874,322
Cuban: 1,437,828
Dominican (Dominican Republic): 1,051,032
Central American: 2,901,679
Costa Rican: 120,316
Guatemalan: 698,745
Honduran: 407,994
Nicaraguan: 248,725
Panamanian: 113,053
Salvadoran: 1,201,002
Other Central American: 111,844
South American: 2,215,503
Argentinean: 189,190
Bolivian: 90,401
Chilean: 106,458
Colombian: 686,185
Ecuadorian: 453,360
Paraguayan: 14,123
Peruvian: 399,240
Uruguayan: 41,577
Venezuelan: 164,699
Other South American: 70,270
Other Hispanic or Latino: 3,084,069
Spaniard white: 358,570
Spanish white: 656,169
Spanish American white: 57,417
All other Hispanic or Latino: 2,011,913
Total Hispanic or Latino of any race or ethnicity (2004): 40,459,196
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2006, 09:28:27 AM »

Demographics by race/ethnicity of Hispanic/Latino Countries

Puerto Rico
(The US Census Bureau does the official Census for Puerto Rico, because it is a US territory. One must remember that Puerto Rico has never been a country. Puerto Rican is not a nationality. One from Puerto Rico is an American by nationality. To say one is Puerto Rican is the same as saying one is a New Yorker, or and North Carolinian. Puerto Rican does not denote a nationalilty or a race or an ethnicity.)
Race: Population
White: 3,134,115
Black: 446,084
American Indian and Alaska Native:12,796
Asian: 11,587
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 643
Some other race: 453,021
Total Population: 3,865,280 (July 2005 Census)

Mexico
Population 103,400,165 (July 2002 est.)
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 90%
white 9%
other 1%

Cuba
Population: 11,224,321 (July 2002 est.)
black 62%
white 37%
Chinese 1%

Dominican Republic
Population: 8,721,594 (July 2002 est.)
black 84%
white 16%

Brazil/ Latino nation (a non-Hispanic nation)
Population: 176,029,560 (July 2002 est.)
white 54%,
black 45%
other (includes Japanese, Arab, Amerindian) 1%

Colombia
Population: 41,008,227 (July 2002 est.)
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 54%
black 26%
white 20%

Panama
Population: 2,882,329 (July 2002 est.)
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 76%
Black14%
white 10%

Venezuela
Population: 24,287,670 (July 2002 est.)
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 69%
White 21%
Black 10%

Ecuador
Population: 13,447,494 (July 2002 est.)
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 89%
black 10%
white 1%

Nicaragua
Population: 5,023,818 (July 2002 est.)
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 74%
white 17%
black 9%

Peru
Population: 27,949,639 (July 2002 est.)
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 77%
white 15%
black 5%
Japanese, Chinese, and other 3%

Bolivia
Population: 8,445,134 (July 2002 est.)
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 85%
white 15%

Chile
Population: 15,498,930 (July 2002 est.)
white 75%
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 23%
other 2%

Argentina
Population: 37,812,817 (July 2002 est.)
white 97%
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) , or other 3%

Paraguay
Population: 5,884,491 (July 2002 est.)
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 95%
other 5%

Uruguay
Population: 3,386,575 (July 2002 est.)
white 88%
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 8%
black 4%

Costa Rica
Population: 3,834,934 (July 2002 est.)
white 64%
black 3%
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 31%
Chinese 1%
other 1%

Guatemala
Population: 13,314,079 (July 2002 est.)
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 98%
whites and others 2%

El Salvador
Population: 6,353,681 (July 2002 est.)
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 91%
white 9%

Honduras
Population: 6,560,608 (July 2002 est.)
Amerindian/mestizo (Native American) 97%
Amerindian 7%
black 2%
white 1%
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2006, 09:39:41 AM »

Is this trolling or performance art?
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2006, 10:32:39 AM »

Is this trolling or performance art?

Do we have to choose?

Here are some more statistics! I culled these (reluctantly) from a list at http://www.geocities.com/transactoid/facts.htm

- Yogurt intake among North Americans has quadrupled in the past 20 years.
- The billionth digit of pi is 9.
- The average North-American will eat 35,000 cookies during their life span (*note from VP: I am already WAY above this average! I apologize to the people whose 18,000 cookies I have apparently stolen.)
- Canada imports approx. 822 Russian-made hockey sticks on an average day
- 97% of Canadians say they would not borrow a toothbrush if they forgot to pack their own
- 40 people are sent to the hospitol for dog bites every minute.
- Montpelier Vermont is the only state capital without a McDonald's
- Most car horns honk in the key of 'F'
- Most toilets flush in E flat
- It takes a half gallon of water to make macaroni and a gallon of water to clean the pot.
- The average person over fifty will have spent 5 years waiting in lines
- The average person over fifty will have spent 1 year looking for lost items.
- 2,000 pounds of space dust and other space debris fall on the Earth every day
- 40,000 Americans are injured by toilets each year (probably because they were flushing in the wrong key)
- 1/3 of all Americans flush the toilet while still on it (oh wait, that probably explains it)
- There are 333 squares of toilet paper on a roll (you can count them while you're lying paralyzed on your bathroom floor waiting for the paramedics)
- 51% of turns are right turns
- The averge womens' handbag weighs between 3 and 5 pounds
- Most people button their shirt upwards
- The average person spends 30 years mad at a family member
- There's a systematic lull in conversation every 7 minutes.
- The buzz generated by an electric razor in America is in the key of B flat.
- In England it is in the key of G. (take that, expats!)
- Most digital alarm clocks ring in the key of B flat.
- The worlds record for keeping a Lifesaver in the mouth with the hole intact is 7 hours and 10 minutes.
- Non-dairy creamer is flammable.
- Nutmeg is extremely poisonous if injected intravenously.

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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2006, 10:39:37 AM »


- Most people button their shirt upwards


I always worried that I was an oddball; now I know.

Yikes!

By the way, I recall seeing a "Pacific Islander" category on some of these forms.  What happened to the "Atlantic Islanders" ??? 

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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2006, 10:50:52 AM »

Is this trolling or performance art?

I don't understand your question.

But, the data listed above is to show how the official US Census Bureau classifies Hispanic/Latino and the actual races/ethnicities that make up Hispanic/Latino. Many people don't even know how there are 42,687,224 Hispanics/Latinos. Also many don't know that blacks/African Americans are still the nation's largest minority by race/ethnicity. This is because the media and many demographic researchers do not follow the U.S. Census Bureau Guidance on the
Presentation and Comparison of Race and Hispanic Origin Data
Background.

You will see below two examples of those who do follow the U.S. Census Bureau Guidance on the
Presentation and Comparison of Race and Hispanic Origin Data
Background.

Please take a look at how Seatte Public Schools is one of the only ones that shows Hispanic/Latino/Chicano correctly on page 4 of this link
http://www.seattleschools.org/area/siso/disprof/2005/DP05demog.pdf

Note: Seattle uses the term Chicano and Latino, instead of Hispanic and Latino.
Chicano is a cultural identity used primarily by Amerindian people of Mexican descent in the United States. It tends to refer to an Amerindian Mexican American (usually second- or third-generation) who has a strong sense of ethnic identity and an accompanying political consciousness. It is considered a term of ethnic pride, though not all Mexican Americans proud of their heritage necessarily consider themselves Chicano. The term Amerindian encompasses the inhabitants of the Americas before the European discovery of the Americas in the late 15th century, as well as many present-day Amerindian/Native American/American Indian/mestizo ethnic groups who identify themselves with those historical peoples.


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U.S. Census Bureau Guidance on the
Presentation and Comparison of Race and Hispanic Origin Data
Background


Traditional and current data collection and classification treat race and Hispanic origin as two separate and distinct concepts in accordance with guidelines from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). In contrast, the practice of some organizations, researchers, and media is to show race and Hispanic origin together as one concept.
http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/compraceho.html
 


Because of this guidance the CIA Factbook does not even list the Hispanics/Latinos category. Because race/ethnicity is already accounted for in the total by race.

Look under "People"/ "Ethnic groups"

https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html

"white 81.7%, black 12.9%, Asian 4.2%, Amerindian and Alaska native 1%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.2% (2003 est.)
note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean a person of Latin American descent (including persons of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin) living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.) "
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2006, 10:53:17 AM »

I always worried that I was an oddball; now I know.

Yikes!

By the way, I recall seeing a "Pacific Islander" category on some of these forms.  What happened to the "Atlantic Islanders" ??? 




You're not an oddball. It is that no one follows the U.S. Census Bureau Guidance on the Presentation and Comparison of Race and Hispanic Origin Data Background.

The US Census Bureau seems to get ride of categories evey year. It's almost like making up numbers.
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2006, 11:03:32 AM »

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- The average person over fifty will have spent 5 years waiting in lines

I must really skew the average because I am always in the slowest line.

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-Non-dairy creamer is flammable.
- Nutmeg is extremely poisonous if injected intravenously.


Hmmm, I wonder if they know about this on the world domination threads?
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2006, 11:06:12 AM »

Just to be more clear of how we get a total of 42,687,224 in 2005 and how the other year totals came about.
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Demographics by race/ethnicity of the Hispanic/Latino population
Note: As of the 2005 Census Bureau estimate almost all the Amerindian Hispanics/Latinos from Mexico and South America are moved into the race category of White. Prior to 2005 Amerindian Hispanics/Latinos from Mexico and South America were counted under the following race/ethnic categories:
White
Some other race
Two or more races
Two races including Some other race
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races

Source: US Census Bureau
white Hispanics/Latinos by the numbers by the years

Now look at the size of the white Hispanic/Latino population from Census 2000 to 2004 and 2005

How on earth can there be 16,907,852 white Hispanics/Latinos in Census 2000 and then 23,673,369 white Hispanics/Latinos by 2004?

in 2001 there were 21,365,294 white Hispanics/Latinos
in 2002 there were 21,303,479 white Hispanics/Latinos
in 2003 there were 23,682,745 white Hispanics/Latinos
in 2004 there were 23,673,369 white Hispanics/Latinos
Then in 2005 the Bureau of the Census said there was 39,488,517 white Hispanics/Latinos.

In just 4 years that’s a growth of 6,765,517 white Hispanics/Latinos


black Hispanics/Latinos by the numbers by the years
2005 Black or African American Hispanic/Latino: 1,584,748
2004 Black or African American Hispanic/Latino: 629,827
2003 Black or African American Hispanic/Latino: 636,339
2002 Black or African American Hispanic/Latino: 592,587
2001 Black or African American Hispanic/Latino: 503,374
2000 Black or African American Hispanic/Latino: 710,353

Many Amerindians mark themselves as Some other race on the US Census some other will mark two or more races etc.
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Two or more races
Yet, Two or more races goes from 2,224,082 in year 2000 to just 605,329 in year 2005.
       
2001
Some other race: 12,038,618
Two or more races: 1,883,197
Two races including Some other race: 1,334,220 
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races: 548,977

2002
Some other race: 13,531,921
Two or more races: 2,002,142
Two races including Some other race: 1,404,011
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races: 598,131

2003
Some other race: 12,896,496
Two or more races: 1,485,649
Two races including Some other race:      945,940
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races:    539,709
Total Hispanic or Latino: 39,194,837

2004
Some other race: 14,223,537
Two or more races: 1,452,860
Two races including Some other race: 904,394
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races: 548,466

 
Here’s where the data comes from

Source: US Census Bureau
United States Hispanic/Latino by Race
Estimate 2005


White: 39,488,517
Black or African American: 1,584,748
American Indian and Alaska Native: 630,079
Asian: 266,958
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 111,593
Two or more races: 605,329
Total Hispanic or Latino: 42,687,224


United States Hispanic/Latino by Race
Estimate 2004


White: 23,673,369
Black or African American: 629,827
American Indian and Alaska Native: 298,547
Asian: 141,880
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 39,176
Some other race: 14,223,537
Two or more races: 1,452,860
Two races including Some other race: 904,394
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races: 548,466
Total Hispanic or Latino: 40,459,196


United States Hispanic/Latino by Race
Estimate 2003


White: 23,682,745
Black or African American: 636,339
American Indian and Alaska Native: 310,566
Asian: 138,885
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 44,157
Some other race: 12,896,496
Two or more races: 1,485,649
Two races including Some other race: 945,940
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races: 539,709
Total Hispanic or Latino: 39,194,837


United States Hispanic/Latino by Race
Estimate 2002


White: 21,303,479
Black or African American: 592,587
American Indian and Alaska Native: 308,278
Asian: 99,822
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 34,246
Some other race: 13,531,921
Two or more races: 2,002,142
Two races including Some other race: 1,404,011
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races: 598,131
Total Hispanic or Latino: 37,872,475


United States Hispanic/Latino by Race
Estimate 2001


White: 21,365,294
Black or African American: 503,374
American Indian and Alaska Native: 264,170
Asian: 100,210
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 45,918
Some other race: 12,038,618
Two or more races: 1,883,197
Two races including Some other race: 1,334,220
Two races excluding Some other race, and three or more races: 548,977
Total Hispanic or Latino: 36,200,781


United States Hispanic/Latino by Race
Census 2000


White: 16,907,852
Black or African American: 710,353
American Indian and Alaska Native: 407,073
Asian: 119,829
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 45,326
Some other race: 14,891,303
Two or more races: 2,224,082
Total Hispanic or Latino: 35,305,818
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2006, 12:12:43 PM »

voxprincipa this is a serious topic. Not sure why you posted the info that you did. It  has nothing to do with the topic.

Are you offended by the topic for you to insult the topic with info you posted that does not relate to the subject?
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2006, 12:26:36 PM »

There was a survey, I apologize, I forget what it was called. Some of you may know what it is.
It covered several years and about 6000 subjects. They interviewed the same students 3 times over the course of the study. Now there is this huge database with all kinds of neat information on it that people can use for different type studies.
We were working with the data for Wave 3 and after eliminating some subjects for things such as not listing gender, we ended up with a few thousand subjects. We tried to do a racial breakdown of the group. We kept getting very strange results. It finally turned out that every single person who listed hispanic as a background race also listed at least one other race. I finally broke it down into caucasian, black, Native American, Asian, Hispanic and other (being those people of mixed race, but without hispanic). Apparently all the people who considered themselves Hispanic also considered themselves something else. I thought that was very interesting.
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