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« on: June 24, 2006, 02:29:16 PM »

I am in the social sciences where most of the conferences involve symposia, paper, or poster sessions. The symposia are the most prestigious, followed by paper, and then poster sessions. On my CV, I make a clear distinction between the three, saying (Paper presented at...) or (Symposia presented at...). Is this the norm? The reason I ask is that I have a colleague, also in the social sciences, who presents everything as papers on her CV. This may be because the majority of her presentations involve poster sessions (and she recycles the same study over and over again-another matter entirely). However, I am going on the job market next year and want to make sure my CV is up to snuff.
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2006, 08:06:54 PM »

I am not in the social sciences but I am in a field in which confernce participation is defined they way you have described it here.  I think your approach is the correct one.  I would not (do not) list papers and posters together.  Instead, I list "conference papers" and "poster session papers" and I am hoping to add "journal papers" to that soon, but that's another discussion.  Anyway, I don't know that your friend's approach is "wrong" so much as it risks appearing to be an attempt to inflate her CV.  Perhaps she could mitigate that by calling everything simply "publications" but I would still suggest breaking it down as you do.
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2006, 10:41:48 PM »


your partitioning is wothless because it is a distinction without a difference.

people only want to know how many peer-reviewed papers you've published. The only distinction that means anything is whether or not it was published in a journal.

Put another way, there are journal publications and everything else. You are trying to attach some silly prestige to your "everything else" publications.

Waste of time and effort. nobody cares.
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2006, 12:27:29 AM »


your partitioning is wothless because it is a distinction without a difference.

people only want to know how many peer-reviewed papers you've published. The only distinction that means anything is whether or not it was published in a journal.

Put another way, there are journal publications and everything else. You are trying to attach some silly prestige to your "everything else" publications.

Waste of time and effort. nobody cares.

Apart from the value judgements (e.g., worthless, waste of time, nobody cares), there is some merit to Anon2s post...but perhaps only at R1 institutions and only for more advanced careers. Yes, the goal is certainly publication in reputable peer-reviewed journals. However, junior faculty are expected to demonstrate some emerging ambition and it is certainly evidence of a developing scholarly presence to be accepted at national and international conferences to present your ideas. This is the first step in developing them toward a manuscript, and evidence of engagement in the field at large. It is never completely subsidized and so it shows a serious personal investment in becoming involved in a service capacity, too.

As long as there isn't a hint of recycling the same ideas multiple places without original developments and perspectives, and as long as the CV does not appear to have stagnated, peer-reviewed conference proceedings are good to include.

They can, however, be reduced to a summary, as in, so many presentations on this topic at this type of conference. After tenure and a couple decades, a senior scholar can summarize publications, as well, but it is premature and a false modesty for an aspiring assitant professor to reduce the resume to that level of parsimony. IMHO.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2006, 07:07:21 AM »

I have published quite nicely on the t-t and list the publications first. However, in my field, it is typical to list peer-reviewed conference proceedings as well as invited talks. Why wouldn't they be included in a CV? I have never seen a CV with just publications...conference presentations are important, too. And NO...I don't recycle my stuff.
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2006, 08:17:07 AM »


your partitioning is wothless because it is a distinction without a difference.

people only want to know how many peer-reviewed papers you've published. The only distinction that means anything is whether or not it was published in a journal.

Put another way, there are journal publications and everything else. You are trying to attach some silly prestige to your "everything else" publications.

Waste of time and effort. nobody cares.

So helpful and encouraging, as always...

I'm sure these things differ from field to field.  In my field, journal articles are the main thing, but that doesn't mean other things don't matter.  The key is to NOT be misleading on the CV.  Group like things together.  If symposia are most important, then list those first with an appropriate heading.  Then, list the refereed journal articles. Then other referred items. Then, presentations, etc.  Use descriptive headings to minimize confusion or any possible appearance of being misleading.

No one i know leaves things off the CV just because they are not "THE THING" such as refereed journal articles. Book chapters, presentations.. these are all indications of your productivity and continued activity.  In some areas of course, the order of importance is very different (i know books are the thing for some of you, for example).

Good luck in your search!

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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2006, 04:57:52 PM »

My CV has a section titled "Conference Presentations" that includes all symposia, papers, and posters presented at conferences. They are not divided into subsections, but the type of presentation is specified in each reference. However, I don't really care about the type of presentation when looking at others' CVs. To me, the point is to show that you've presented something, as a way of indicating that you're active at major events in the field.
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