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Author Topic: The right 'disposition'  (Read 43285 times)
Randy Stephens
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« Reply #60 on: December 27, 2005, 10:28:26 AM »

1. Yes

2. No

In high schools  and middle schools the
only diversity issue I encounter is "how to
punish or throw out of class"  students in
an evenly balanced manner so that I
not be accused of partiality.   Identifying
bad behavers in the classroom is seldom the
problem.   Being fair in directing instruction
or instructional intent is never the problem.
Preventing continuance of classroom disrupt-
ion by those who would draw on social issues
in order to defeat good classroom manage-
ment is an ever-constant concern.

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Disturbed
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« Reply #61 on: January 03, 2006, 11:09:19 AM »

"Sorry lady, but I have nothing to learn from my students. They don't know anything about my subject area when they come into the class and their opinions are completely irrelevant. (I teach the physical sciences)"

Ok, have fun in your paradigm. Everyone looks at thing from different angles by completely dismissing what your students have to say as irrelevant is problematic. Nothing works in straight lines. I'm sure you  could probably learn something socially from your students at the very least.

Back to the article itself; Ms. Siegfried had a disagreement with her professor over affirmative action. I would assume she was against it. Yet Horowtiz wants more Republican professors so he's essentially pushing for right-wing affirmative action. Apparently polluting the television airwaves with Lou Dobbs, Tucker Carlson and Bill O'Reilly wasn't enough for Horowitz he wants to have more of a voice in Academe as well. What I find most troubling about this is the labeling of everyone who teaches leftist and we need more people from the right. Why is everyone defined as one or the other? It's disturbing that there seems to be an effort to divide and categorize over political ideologies. Apparently one can't be anti-abortion and pro gun control.
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Observer
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« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2006, 08:48:39 AM »

Dear Disturbed,

Certainly you can be anti-abortion and pro-gun control, but that would fly in the face of identity politics, which dictate a whole host of political positions based on a simplistic view of identity.  For the identity politics people, you are defined by a single trait.  If you're black you automatically believe X.  If you're gay you automatically believe Y.  This is reductive and nonsensical on its face.  However, once you allow the world to be nuanced and complex you lose the opportunity to create collectivist movements that will lead to the acquisition of political power.  This is why the left dislikes the notion of nuanced census data.  The reality of life is that people are now multiracial and truly multicultural.  Asians can have Latino or African-American parents and step-parents, prefer Italian food, British invasion music, Scandinavian furniture, and neoclassical French drama, but woe be to them if they don't identify themselves as Asian (or Latino, African-American, or whatever) because census data lead to entitlement programs and other political emoluments as well as 'organizations' for those who wish to lead organizations.

The simple fact, as Russell Jacoby has demonstrated, is that America was far more 'diverse' 100 years ago than it is now.  There were far more foreign-language dailies, far more monolingualism, far more tribalism, etc.  Identity politics, however, is still pushed by the left because it is essential to the maintenance of their political base and key to their ultimate, collectivist goals.  This is why identity politics is given credence (serious credence) within the academy--because of the dominance of leftist thought there, even though the concept evaporates in the light of day.  Unfortunately, that's why we need colloquies such as this.  Thanks to your quite rational question, some readers have been sensitized to the absurdity of this portion of the leftist agenda.
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R.A.S.
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« Reply #63 on: January 08, 2006, 01:15:21 PM »

'Right disposition?' When did God die, and tell TE programs that they were in charge?

Like a TE college banner I saw -- "Leadership & Public Service." Amazon lists 19,000 books with the title "Leadership." So -- one definition is going to cover 19,000 viewpoints?

What a load of malarky! School performance sucks, and we're arguing over words. Charter schools, anyone?

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College Prof
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« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2006, 12:37:36 PM »

This note is written by one (male) who has been teaching at the College/University level for nearly 40 years; has taught courses from the 101 type intro courses having 250 students to individual Ph.D advisement/direction; has taught at small/private and large, land grant universities with 25,000 students. Thankfully, retirement beckons.
     The trends I have seen over this period are as distressful as most pundits acknowledge. Students entering college today are more underprepared for 'real' college work than ever before. In part, this is because of the educational experiences they have suffered in their high school (and earlier) preparation. I think these early educational experiences are long on style-'experiences' and very short on substance/content.
      Similarly, young (female) faculty today are more bound up in identity politics than in earlier generations. I attribute a great deal the 'disposition'-oriented focus of University to the affects of the feminist movement. With greater and greater numbers of young women entering the academy (partially as a result of their 'miniority' or 'protected' status) the feminist agenda has become all- consuming. In part this is because of a strong feminist-engendered biases in higher education that activelyand overtly squelch any questioning of radical leftist-feminist principles. Even an innocuous comment from a Harvard president leads to calls that he be burned at the stake for his 'outrageously anti-female' remarks. Pity the lowly professor who would open the door to excoriation by voicing an opinion, however reasoned, against the prevailing dogma.
      My first hand experience over the past ten or so years has demonstrated that any attitude (expressed openly or not) that is perceived as dogma-deviant is punished in subtle ways (committe assignments, teaching evaluations to which raises are attached, summer teaching opportunities, preferred travel awards) by the predominately female administrative heirarchy in my College. My mostly female colleagues assign group projects, give no objective exams, hold pizza-party classes,  have class 'discussions' in lieu of content-rich teaching, introduce political topics, and use the majority of the class time (in every class,  every semester ) for student presentations and professor critique. Students usually go along because it assures that everyone in upper-level and graduate courses will receive an A grade.  As such, for students this is a continuation of the empty-calory education that typifies many high school curricula.  Students learn to go along to get along in such an environment.
     The circumstances that have been reported in the Chronicle article are not new or rare. When there is no course content, 'values' seep in to fill the space. "Disposition education" exists because those in the Academy who disagree (and who wish to keep a career going), have been budgeoned into silence, as in the Harvard case. It is fortunate when a few brave young students...on the threshold of their careers...have the gumption to speak up concerning their right to have an opinion. They will untimately determine whether education becomes something more than it currently is.

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B.J.S.
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« Reply #65 on: January 10, 2006, 03:21:13 AM »

Absolutely correct. Most disorganized and uncoordinated group of yahoo's that you'd ever want to meet. Total waste of public tax dollars. Time to start all over.
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Bart J.
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« Reply #66 on: January 10, 2006, 09:17:51 AM »

Too bad Kurt decided to shoot himself. IMHO, he'd been amused by a bunch of Ivory Tower government workers with lifetime tenure trying to imitate George Orwell, rather than on common sense and basic humanity. As in Kurt's song "Jesus Don't Want Me For A Sunbeam."

Jesus don't want me for a sunbeam
Sunbeams are not made like me

Unfortunately, TE folks want nothing but sunbeams who donate to Howard Dean. What B.S.!

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Thundering Mrshmallow
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« Reply #67 on: January 12, 2006, 08:37:43 AM »

What a sobering thread. I feel compelled to add my point of view.

One of the most important functions of teacher education programs is to help the candidate shift from thinking like a student (perform a task as directed) to thinking like a teacher (consider many criteria to make decisions in the best interests of both the individuals and the group). Students are solitary while teachers must be leaders. Leadership skills are more than content knowledge and instructional skill. A professional disposition is the difference between an effective and an ineffective leader.

One dimension of leaders' (and all citizens') disposition is ethics. The in loco parentis role of teachers, with responsibility for the children's welfare, requires behavior above reproach. Oblivion to the effects of one's words or movement is intolerable. Subtle forms of discrimination are therefore important to illuminate, made all the more urgent by half a century of equity reforms for individual differences (the least restrictive environment for special education students; Title IX for girls' opportunitites; physical access; religious freedom). More recent reforms are not for equity but excellence in terms of standard achievement.

The bulk of Teacher Education Programs is geared toward Elementary Education, which requires  far more courses than secondary education. As a group these candidates tend to be conservative and task-oriented: conservative in the sense of wanting to perpetuate the culture they are familiar with. Schools of Education tend to be the red state within a blue university.

They are also considered the bottom feeders, accepting all comers. Part of the reforms concern quality of teachers, and therefore there is the need to specifically articulate the criteria by which someone may be counseled to leave the profession. The illusive qualities of effective interaction are hardest because they are neither concrete nor possible to even perceive with consensus. Disposition standards are the effort to provide a common language for analyzing effective teaching.

FYI, these are the principles adopted by the Interstate New Teacher Assessment and Support Consortium (INTASC) in 1992. More detailed explanations of each of them, including the knowledge, skills, and dispositions,  can be found at  http://www.ccsso.org/projects/Interstate_New_Teacher_Assessment_and_Support_Consortium/ . They are the basis for most reforms in teacher education, including the new NCATE rules that many states require.  
#1. CONTENT. Peservice teachers understand the central concepts, tools of inquiry and structures of the discipline(s) they teach and can create learning experiences that make these aspects of subject matter meaningful for students.
#2. DEVELOPMENT. Preservice teachers understand the range of developmental characteristics of students including interpersonal, cultural, and societal contexts and use this knowledge to facilitate student learning.
#3. DIVERSITY.: Preservice teachers understand how students differ in their development and approaches to learning and can create and adapt instructional opportunities for diverse learners.
#4. INSTRUCTION & CURRICULUM. Preservice teachers understand the teaching/learning research base and employ a variety of instructional strategies, resources, and technologies which advance the learner into high level thinking skills.
#5 LEARNING ENVIRONMENT. Preservice teachers use knowledge and understanding of individual and group motivation and behavior to foster active engagement in learning that nurtures and encourages the physical, emotional, social, moral, aesthetic, language, and cognitive growth and development in adolescents and young adults.
#6. COMMUNICATION.  Preservice teachers use their knowledge of effective verbal, non-verbal, and media communication techniques to foster active inquiry, collaboration, and supportive interaction in the classroom and the community.
#7 PLANNING. Preservice teachers understand the interdisciplinary nature of curriculum and plan their instruction to foster well-rounded student learning.
#8 ASSESSMENT. Preservice teachers understand the importance of multiple assessments (informal and formal, formative and summative) and use a variety of appropriate assessments, some of which are performance based, to facilitate the continuous intellectual, social, and physical development of the learner
#9 PROFESSIONALISM.  Preservice teachers reflect on and evaluate teaching in light of current best research and practice; seek opportunities for further growth; and maintain positive collaborative relationships with everyone in the educational community.
#10 COLLABORATION. Preservice teachers recognize the importance of the students’ families, cultures, and communities, and foster relationships with school colleagues, parents, and agencies to support the students’ learning and well-being.

Although rooted in progressivism and pragmatism, the current pedagogical model is more accurately a psychosocial constructivist approach, meaning that learning is influenced by the developmental characteristics of the student (physical, cognitive, linguistic, affective, social) and the circumstances of the student's life in and out of school (especially conditions of poverty and upheaval) that influence the student's capacity to find meaning in the ideas and experiences of school.  

Most teachers, though, do not use such theoretical models to organize their thoughts. Instead, they think of being 'learner-centered'. This is more than an ideology du jour. It is strongly supported by research finding, neatly summarized by the American Psychological Association's How Students Learn by Lambert and McCombs. Specific teaching techniques compatible with a learner-centered approach have been exhaustively and empirically researched, i.e. cooperative learning and active engagement.  This is not a matter of 'feel good' politics but is as scientific as social sciences can be for establishing some causal link between instructructional decisions and student performance.

Most education instructors are focused on technical skills of teaching reading, designing assessments, etc. For many, most of their instructors are not full time faculty but adjuncts sharing their real world applications, not theoretical PC. At the same time, we full-time teacher educators are consumed with documenting our efforts according to state and accreditation requirements. As professional schools, we are governed by certification requirements even more than academic ideals. These include the very dispositions the original post suggested were a personal choice of teacher educators.

It may be a bumper sticker cliche, but most teachers truly believe "They don't care how much you know until they know how much you care." Most teachers who have objections to their professional circumstances complain of their treatment more than their materials. A little respect is not much to ask, and that is a disipositional issue.
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R.A.S.
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« Reply #68 on: January 12, 2006, 01:48:14 PM »

Thundering Mrshmallow wrote:

> What a sobering thread. I feel compelled to add my point of view.

What a lovely 986-word treatment of TE. Here are my memories of TE:

* Listening to instructors and PhD students repeatedly describe Mr. Bush as "that idiot."

* One instructor -- full professor and administrator -- with the professional ability to lead a discussion without referring to Mr. Bush as "an idiot."

* Listening to some PhD students refer to themselves as "smarter than (regular) teachers."

The Public School Monopoly -- what a huge waste of money, time and effort. Charters and vouchers are a workable alternative -- not perfect, but at least worth an effort.
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Courtney Love's makeup girl
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« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2006, 01:52:38 PM »

Holy cow, Bart J. You just did everything you possibly could to make popular culture look dumb in front of a bunch of academics.

1. Kurt Cobain did not write that song. His band was covering the Vaselines. The song was composed by Eugene Kelly and Frances McKee.

2. Its title is "Jesus Doesn't Want Me for a Sunbeam."

3. Orwell was against pomp and cant. He pretty famously did not commit those rhetorical sins. The people you appear to be criticizing are not imitating Orwell, but rather the nitwits Orwell himself criticized. So you seem to be saying that Cobain and Orwell would be on the same side.

4. Or something.
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B.J.S.
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« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2006, 04:06:31 PM »

Here's the URL

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10753446/site/newsweek/

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Bart J.
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« Reply #71 on: January 16, 2006, 08:15:03 AM »

Courtney Love's makeup girl wrote:

> 1. Kurt Cobain did not write that song. His band was covering the Vaselines. The song was composed by Eugene Kelly and Frances McKee.

CL: how many units did Nirvana sell? and the Vaselines?

> 2. Its title is "Jesus Doesn't Want Me for a Sunbeam."

How did Mr. Cobain perform the song?

> 3. Orwell was against pomp and cant. He pretty famously did not commit those rhetorical sins.

True

> The people you appear to be criticizing are not imitating Orwell, but rather the nitwits Orwell himself criticized.

True

> So you seem to be saying that Cobain and Orwell would be on the same side.

True. Having actually visited his hometown, and seen the economic bleakness, and understanding his cynicism toward any kind of political stagecraft (blue, red, or purple state) --

I think he would have laughed his head off, at the prospect of a bunch of Ivory Tower gub-mint workers with lifetime tenure, dictating how those on the frontlines should deal with those required by law to enter the Public School Monopoly.

He might of said, "Hey, if you're against Bush and the Republicans, just say so. I do."

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CLMG
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« Reply #72 on: January 17, 2006, 07:09:46 AM »

You called it "Kurt's song." But it is not his song. It doesn't matter who moved more units (which, I think, is a Cobainian position to take--whose song is "Where Did You Sleep Last Night"? "The Man Who Sold the World"? "Lake of Fire"?). The Vaselines performed it first and Kelly & McKee wrote it. It's their, and it goes by the title they gave it--which is also the title given on the back cover of the _Unplugged_ album.
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Bart J.
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« Reply #73 on: January 17, 2006, 02:02:44 PM »

CLMG wrote:

> You called it "Kurt's song." But it is not his song. It doesn't
> matter who moved more units (which, I think, is a Cobainian
> position to take--whose song is "Where Did You Sleep Last
> Night"? "The Man Who Sold the World"? "Lake of Fire"?). The
> Vaselines performed it first and Kelly & McKee wrote it. It's
> their, and it goes by the title they gave it--which is also the
> title given on the back cover of the _Unplugged_ album.

As Kurt said "you know I'm right." I could cherry-pick your note apart -- but life's too short for teeny-weeny matters. Have a so-so day.
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CLMG
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« Reply #74 on: January 18, 2006, 07:09:14 AM »

Thanks for not ripping me a new one, Bart. I'm quivering.

See, that's just what some people expect when they see a scholar using popular culture to make or support a point: sloppiness. And some scholars let themselves get by with it. (In my experience, tt faculty are MUCH worse at using pop culture then are grad students and even some bright undergrads--tt think they're going on a mental vacation).

But you can indeed use popular culture to make points without going all slack in your methodology or forgiving yourself errors of fact--and you might even consider what "Kurt" would think of macho posturing.

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