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« on: May 13, 2004, 10:55:16 AM »

President Bush's advisory council on bioethical issues has drawn fire from critics who say that its chairman, Leon R. Kass, has led it to produce a series of reports that, driven by a conservative ideology, stress the perils of exotic new research instead of focusing on issues of broader significance and making useful policy recommendations. Are the criticisms merited? Or does Mr. Kass's vision of the panel -- as providing a forum to educate the public about bioethical issues -- offer a reasonable interpretation of his mandate? Read more ...
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Roger Merric, Ohio State
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2004, 03:16:35 AM »

As a liberal in bioethics, I was certainly prepared to be suspicious of the Kass Council, but their work has been serious and interesting, and I think it makes good sense to be engaged in thinking through some of the fundamental issues that will confront society with new human biotechnologies, before just rushing in and recommending policy. That Council has tried to establish some basic parameters for our future debate, and I think they've done it pretty well. I think a majority of the Council could better be described as liberal than conservative, and they've had real disagreements, which is a good thing.

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Bioethicist
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2004, 03:23:08 AM »


I found this a useful (if rather pointed!) review of Kass's latest book:

http://www.theihs.org/libertyguide/article.php/688.html

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P. Jung
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2004, 06:59:30 PM »

This is one of the many colloquies that examines a topic in which I have no expertise, but, as in many of these colloquies, the premises and logic are so flawed that I simply cannot resist posting a response.  

As is normal, the Chronicle is attempting to "electronically lynch" yet another seemingly conservative academic.  The article certainly appears to look objective; it gives equal space to both critics and supporters of Dr. Kass, and, at the very end, it even goes the extra mile by stating that his parents were "secular, socialist, immigrant Jews from Eastern Europe.”  How "enlightened" of the Chronicle to emphasize Dr. Kass's left-of-center non-Christian upbringing!  I actually found this statement by the Chronicle to be somewhat offensive.

But, alas, forget about this lame attempt at objectivity and focus instead upon the headline:

"A New Kind of Bioethics: Eschewing the academic mainstream, Bush panel focuses on technology's dangers"

Of course, Dr. Kass MUST be "eschewing the academic mainstream" if he is on a "Bush panel."  I think a first-year journalism student could see through the transparency of this headline.  It basically says that Dr. Kass's panel is rejected by the academic "mainstream" because it is a "Bush panel."

How accurate is such an assertion?  The article published by the Chronicle shows how asinine and infantile this assertion is.  The article states that, "More than 170 academic bioethicists signed a letter of protest" concerning recent dismissals of members of Dr. Kass's council.  Is this really the "academic mainstream?"  

According to the American Society for Bioethics and Humanities—the principal professional organization for bioethicists—the organization is composed of "1,500 individuals, organizations, and institutions interested in bioethics..."  (see http://www.asbh.org)  That would mean that about one tenth of the membership signed the letter.  That hardly constitutes the "mainstream."  

What is most surprising about the Chronicle article is its incompetent reporting.  No where does it mention the recent book written by Dr. Kass's council, _Beyond Therapy: Biotechnology and the Pursuit of Happiness_.   The recent review of this book on Slate (see http://slate.msn.com/id/2096815) makes it clear that the work of Dr. Kass's council has been as a balanced as could have reasonably have been expected.  I quote this review at length below, which should do more to illustrate the depth of Dr. Kass's views than the one-sided Chronicle article could ever hope to achieve.  

"The stated aim of [_Beyond Therapy_] is to produce philosophical reflection, not advice. The report issues no guidelines or policy recommendations, which is why it is an odd target for left versus right debates. Instead, it reads like a scholarly book. _Beyond Therapy_ is about 300 pages in length and is divided into four main sections: "Better Children," "Superior Performance," "Ageless Bodies," and "Happy Souls." The careful philosophical style of the report parodied by the editors of Nature Biotechnology is, admittedly, unlike any government document I have ever read, but I count that as a strong point in its favor.  The truly striking thing about _Beyond Therapy_ is how just radically at odds it is with mainstream American culture, right and left alike. The report is skeptical of America's faith in technology, worried about America's radical individualism, alarmed at the transformation of medicine from a profession into a business, and deeply concerned about the role of the market in driving the demand for new medical technologies. _Beyond Therapy_ may not please many bioethicists, but neither will it please the libertarian or the business-conservative wings of the Republican Party. When was the last time you heard a Republican complain, as the council does, that the pharmaceutical industry is expanding diagnostic categories as a way of selling drugs or express concern that it 'can manufacture desire as readily as it can manufacture pills'? As much as it pains me to admit that anything worthwhile could come from a council appointed by the Bush administration, _Beyond Therapy_ is a remarkable document: gracefully written, thoroughly researched, ideologically balanced, and philosophically astute. It will be a benchmark for all future work on the topic."

As a final note, I do not vote Republican or Democrat; indeed, in the past few years I have refused to vote for either party in any election because I have strong reservations about both.  Thus, I do not consider myself to be an ideologue of the left or the right:


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JGarner , Ivy Tech
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2004, 11:03:36 AM »

I agree completely with Professor P. Jung.

Why is it today that we seemingly have more respect for the environment and endangered plant and animal species than we do for the Human Genome?

Should science feel free to engage in any sort of experiments on humanity that it desires while we pass federal legislation to protect plants, lower forms of life and the environment?

Should we just forget the mice and the guinea pigs and move directly to humans for experimentation?

Is this to be done because there is a trend that blames humanity for the ills of the world?

Is this trend truly ethical?
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DE Teodoru
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2004, 12:51:19 PM »

I had been outraged by the Kass panel as a cover up for the business side of bioethics. I am familiar with a gererously FEDERAL funded academic science that delves into BASIC issues, leaving applied sciences to another level or to private industry. Alas, the barrier between the two was never established. Thus, for example, we have thew absurd case of a leukemia that was treated at UCLA Med School with outstanding sucess. The patient was not informed of his total cure. Instead, he was ordered to keep returning from Oregon to UCLA regularly for "treatments" which consisted of bleedings. Only when he went to donate blood to his local bloodbank and UCLA was asked if his blood was ecceptable for exogenous transfusion, did UCLA inform the blood bank that it cannot take his blood because UCLA OWNS IT!

It turns out that upon his cure UCLA immediately took a patten on his blood so that it now owns it. His "tratments" were really experiimental blood drawings for their profit motive studies on his blood. He sued, but alos it was settled out of court so we will never get this kind of commertial theft of body parts regulated.

Truth is, academic biomedical research is canibalistic "bodysnatchers" and profit motive oriented skulduggery. Kass had no balls at all or he would have dealt with that.

BUT like everything done by the Bush Mafia led by Cappo Cheney, it is ethins converted to smoke screen. Better to re-establish the wall behind which OPEN-- repeat OPEN-- non-profit, non-patented, basic research is done at public expense. A walless environment leads to universities at Congressional hearings dealing with bioethics, not represented by "bioethicists"-- as queer a thing as $3 bill who are as ethical as political scientists are scientific!-- but by pattent lawyers, of all things. When laws are made crooks come up to the hill with lots of goodies for the lawmakers that will leave science raped and sodomized.

We had a strict and total distinction between for and not for profit science, only the latter funded by the public. Now it is all a muddle and the goolish creatures of science fiction are upon us in Brooks Bro. lawyer suits. And that is being reinforced by Kass's phony Commission that has yet to face that scientists are entrpreneurs dreaming of becoming robber barons of the organs, tissues and gene trade.

Under Bush, science can only become like Iraq: BLOODY ****!!!(pardon my technical jargon, but I am a pissing mad scientist)
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