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a canadian
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2005, 11:24:52 AM »

Charles II wrote:
Even in the top Canadian
> universities - U of T, McGill, UBC, Queen's (which is fading
> fast), and Alberta - tenure denial is rare (and the system
> seems to work, American nay-sayers).

Mcgill is fading as well in the arts. Sciences and medecine are ok though.
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history grrrl
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2005, 09:13:34 PM »

In response to the original question: For my job, I had a campus interview about three weeks after the application deadline, and an offer two weeks after that. But it was late in the season, so the committee moved fast. We don't do screening interviews, typically -- just campus visits.

I'm now on a couple of search committees. We'll come up with short lists about two weeks after the deadline, and hope to do campus visits shortly thereafter -- but with finals, final grades, and a very short break between terms, these probably won't happen until early January.

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future Canadian?
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2005, 08:49:33 PM »

thank you both for this advice on salary data and also on tenure, Charles II.  More to like about Canada.  If anyone has specific advice on job talk, campus visit issues for a candidate from the U.S., I would welcome it as my flyout is coming up. (In humanities)
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Dr. Music
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2005, 10:45:57 PM »

I was really surprised to read this comment considering the HUGE endowment and new building the Faculty of Music just received.  Music is in great shape at McGill!

Dr. Music
A proud McGill music alumnus :-)
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Another Canadian
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2005, 11:51:19 PM »

future canadian? wrote:

> where can one find out salary data for  canadian universities?
> all these tips very useful ! thanks!


Canadian Salaries can be found here:

http://www.statcan.ca/english/research/81-595-MIE/81-595-MIE2004019.pdf
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a canadian
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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2005, 01:40:33 PM »

Yes, Dr. Music you are correct. I said, 'arts' in my posting; not "fine arts". Ie. "Arts" as Faculty of Arts -- ie. humanities and social sciences. Any Mcgill people out there who can shed light on whether in fact Mcgill "arts" is fading?
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Dr. Music
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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2005, 05:14:17 PM »

Actually, you wrote "Mcgill (sic) is fading in the arts."  In my experience,  when speaking with people both in and out of academia "the arts" implies...well, the arts -- not sociology, linguistics, or economics.

Job openings in music are listed under "Arts" here on the Chronicle's website.  That's weird, though.
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a canadian
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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2005, 05:59:19 PM »

sorry, doc, but what is a facultyof Arts if not Arts...ie. humanities, social sciences. Up here the faculty of Fine Arts is music, visual art, etc. And yes it is McGill.
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Dr. Music
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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2005, 08:31:48 PM »

Sorry Canuk, but McGill University does not have a Faculty of Fine Arts.  The former Faculty of Music was renamed the Schulich School of Music in 2005.  One cannot earn a degree in any other "fine art" at McGill.

In the US, universities don't have a "Faculty" of .  Most institutions have "Colleges" that contain "Schools" or "Departments" of specialty divisions.  For example, the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences might have a Department of Sociology and a Department of Languages and Literature.  A College of Design may contain the School of Architecture and the School of Planning.  Likewise, the College of Fine Arts might have a Department of Dance, a School of Music, and a School of Art.

If you equate a "Faculty of Arts" for a "School of Arts" in your own mind, you likely will find many Americans look at you funny when they realize you are referring to Religious Studies and Philosophy and not Theatre or Dance.  

At the very least, most North Americans (even an educated Canuck like me!) would not attend a local weekend "Arts" Festival expecting to encounter a presentation on Political Science.
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a canadian
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« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2005, 03:25:43 AM »

Thanks, Doc. Here is the website of the faculty of "Arts" of McGill.
http://www.mcgill.ca/arts/  You will note that, when I mentioned the "Arts" at McGill, I was referring to this faculty.

PS. There is a degree in English, which incorporates an option in Drama and Theatre which in other universities (but not all)  is generally in a separate Faculty of Fine Arts.
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« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2005, 09:57:25 AM »

US candidates should make an effort to get familiar with Canadian terminology before interviews. One question we often think about when interviewing US applicants is whether they really want a job at our school specifically and will make the effort to adjust. We had one candidate who didn't realize Canada had its own currency. Several don't read over the materials we send them and don't understand that a full course is a year long. Or have never read a Canadian newspaper ... It's important to show that you are serious about the position and about moving to Canada. As other posters have said, almost everyone gets tenure. And Canadians tend to be less mobile than Americans anyway (according to comparative statistics). So we are looking for people who will make this a permanent job -- perhaps more so than US universities.
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