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Do professors at elite universities have too much power over their graduate students, to the point where the students' mental health is seriously endangered? If it is true, what can be done about it?


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"This is my first semester at a university. I am not the brightest person you will ever meet but every day I ask myself what I make myself come here for..."

-- Erin Guesno, student at Cal State Long Beach (posted 11/13, 2:00 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)

"Too much of a dream or too many expectations will lead to tragedies if there was no way to fulfill that dream..."
-- post-graduate physics, UT (posted 11/8, 10:20 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)

"If Harvard University offers any support resources for graduate students..."
-- Anonymous (posted 3/15, 4:12 p.m., E.S.T.)

"I went through graduate school at a major state university..."
-- Carson Meredith, Postdoctoral Researcher, NIST (posted 2/3, 11:30 a.m., E.S.T.)

"Occasionally, the routine of everyday life is shattered when the nightmare of what could easily be our own desperate situations..."
-- Chris Keegan, graduate student in philosophy, SUNY Buffalo (posted 1/28, 10:08 a.m., E.S.T.)

"The article commits the common journalistic error of seeing a trend where none exists..."
-- James H. Joyner, Jr., Ph.D., Asst. Professor of Political Science, Troy State University (posted 1/27, 2:43 p.m., E.S.T.)

"The University of Alberta is a major research-intensive university..."
-- Saloni Negi, Vice President (Academic), and Ombudsperson for graduate students, Graduate Students' Association, University of Alberta (posted 1/21, 9:43 a.m., E.S.T.)

"People are often too quick to lay blame (or absolve themselves of it) than they are to take responsibility..."
-- Adam Fagen, Graduate Student, Harvard University (posted 12/10, 3 p.m., E.S.T.)

"I found the article and discussion of the Chemistry Graduate student at Harvard U..."
-- David Yellin, Professor, Oklahoma State University (posted 12/8, 5:16 p.m., E.S.T.)

"To go to such an elite university like Harvard, one can look at the situation from two sides..."
-- Ian Blair, Freshman, Howard University (posted 12/8, 5 p.m., E.S.T.)

"Academia reminds me of a child's pet turtle race..."
-- Marc Andelman (posted 12/7, 10:19 a.m., E.S.T.)

"So. Now that the discussion has died, after all is said and done..."
-- Marc Andelman, Biosource Inc. (posted 12/2, 9:24 a.m., E.S.T.)

"I pursued a great field for financing my graduate education - engineering..."
-- Jeff, Real-World Engineer & Part-Time CC Instructor (posted 11/13, 11:04 a.m., E.S.T.)

"As a recent graduate of a Midwest university, I was extremely fortunate to have a compassionate and level-headed advisor..."
-- Michelle Murphy, Biology Instructor, University of North Dakota Lake Region (posted 11/13, 10:37 a.m., E.S.T.)

"In my Ph.D. program, the mean time to graduation was 7 years..."
-- Shawne Neeper, Scientific Writer, Pharsight Corporation (posted 11/13, 10:13 a.m., E.S.T.)

"I was shocked and appalled at the blanket comment that the problems of graduate students..."
-- Kelly Suter, post-doctoral fellow, Colorado State University (posted 11/10, 3:33 p.m., E.S.T.)

"I've been working on my Ph.D. at Michigan State University for several years now, and have found the process grueling..."
-- Lawrence Sporer, Doctoral Candidate, Michigan State University (posted 11/9, 2:48 p.m., E.S.T.)

"The following editorial at the Graduate Student Caucus of the MLA has a nice response..."
-- Mark Crane, Ph.D. student, University of Louisville (posted 11/9, 10:48 a.m., E.S.T.)

"I was a member of a graduate faculty for 36 years at a major, but not elite, university..."
-- Phil Perrone, Professor Emeritus, University of Wisconsin - Madison (posted 11/9, 10:30 a.m., E.S.T.)

"It isn't only Ivy League grad students who are affected, although they may have issues specific to elite students..."
-- Phil, recent Grad. Student, Univ. of Florida (posted 11/9, 10:20 a.m., E.S.T.)

"Graduate study is a demanding and exhausting experience. I did not study in the Ivy League,..."
-- Keith Gaddie, Associate Professor of Political Science, University of Oklahoma (posted 11/9, 10:09 a.m., E.S.T.)

"I suspect that abusive behavior of advisors of graduate students is not uncommon..."
-- Kelly Suter, post-doctoral fellow (posted 11/6, 2 p.m., E.S.T.)

"Most of the responses thus far concern graduate studies in the sciences, but I suspect that the origins of the misery shared by many graduate students..."
-- Michael Cholbi, Ph.D. candidate, University of Virginia (posted 11/6, 10 a.m., E.S.T.)

"Hasn't anybody had a good experience in grad school?..."
-- Adam Cohen, Doctoral candidate, Univ. of Pennsylvania (posted 11/4, 10:20 a.m., E.S.T.)

"The hard part about the issue is that there are no easy answers..."
-- Alan Davidson, University of Connecticut (posted 11/4, 10:12 a.m., E.S.T.)

"Abuse at elite, or 'non-elite' institutions has and will continue to occur to graduate students..."
-- Robert M. Peterson, Ph.D., Assistant Professor, University of Portland (posted 11/3, 10:37 a.m., E.S.T.)

"Yes, I agree that graduate advisers can have a detrimental or beneficial effect on the mental health of a graduate student,..."
-- Anonymous (posted 11/3, 10:30 a.m., E.S.T.)

"Biosource Inc. is the oldest recruitment firm in the biotechnology industry. Perhaps we see a different part of the elephant..."
-- Marc Andelman, Biosource Inc., Worcester, MA (posted 11/3, 9:45 a.m., E.S.T.)

"There is virtually universal agreement that oversight of graduate studies needs to be changed..."
-- David Klein, Ph.D., (posted 10/30, 4:12 p.m., E.S.T.)

"Thank you for opening up this great debate! My seven years in grad school were at least four years longer than necessary..."
-- Michal Rosenberger, Ph.D., Educational Consultant (posted 10/30, 2:11 p.m., E.S.T.)

"My experiences in graduate school provided me with the best possible preparation for the U.S. job market..."
-- Anonymous (posted 10/27, 4:30 p.m., E.S.T.)

"One thing that is being lost in all this is while there are horror stories a plenty, there are good programs out there..."
-- Alan Davidson, University of Connecticut (posted 10/27, 2:47 p.m., E.S.T.)

"As a former Ph.D. student in Computer Engineering, I was ill-informed about the options that were out there..."
-- Kurt Behpour, Assistant Professor, Central Washington University (posted 10/27, 2:35 p.m., E.S.T.)

"Two issues that haven't really been addressed in this ongoing forum:..."
-- Anonymous (posted 10/27, 1:10 p.m., E.S.T.)

"With regard to the power of university profs over students: The fact is, the combination of tenure laws in most states combined with the recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling..."
-- Myrna Estep, Ph.D., Adjunct Faculty in Philosophy, University of the Incarnate Word (posted 10/27, 12:47 p.m., E.S.T.)

"I am not the least bit surprised. To be a graduate student often means dealing with conflicting information/feedback from 3 or more people,..."
-- Alan Davidson, University of Connecticut (posted 10/27, 12:34 p.m., E.S.T.)

"I was saddened and delighted to see the comments regarding professors, graduate students, and mental health..."
-- P. Spencer, Ph.D., Instructor, Penn State University (posted 10/26, 1:20 p.m., E.S.T.)

"Yes, I agree that seeking out the ideal advisor reduces the chance of acquiring a poor advisor..."
-- Anonymous, Washington State University (posted 10/26, 12:26 p.m., E.S.T.)

"Thank you for starting a dialogue on this much needed topic..."
-- Anonymous, Ph.D. Candidate, University of California (posted 10/26, 12:07 p.m., E.S.T.)

"To put it mildly, reading this story had a huge impact on my own (still painful) recollections of my doctoral passage..."
-- Scott Kerlin, Ph.D., Lecturer, Washington State University/Vancouver (posted 10/26, 11:11 a.m., E.S.T.)

"Typically, I glance at most of the articles in The Chronicle, however the one about the suicide of Mr. Altom..."
-- R. J. Robbins, Ph.D. (posted 10/26, 10:49 a.m., E.S.T.)

"One big problem with graduate school is that it's like being a child again..."
-- Patricia Schwarz, California Institute of Technology (posted 10/26, 10:33 a.m., E.S.T.)

"From my experience as a doctoral student, I would not be surprised to learn of more suicides or maybe even homicides related to the way doctoral students are treated..."
-- Dr. Joyce Salvage, SUNY-Oneonta (posted 10/26, 9:49 a.m., E.S.T.)

"I was reading some of the responses to the issue of graduate students being abused. I have been in my program for over 3 years..."
-- A Ph.D. Candidate, University of Illinois (posted 10/23, 3:40 p.m., E.D.T.)

"I am delighted that this issue is being considered at last..."
-- Anonymous, Ph.D. candidate (posted 10/23, 3:36 p.m., E.D.T.)

"Yes, major profs exert undue power in dealing with grad students. What's the problem here?..."
-- Hal Nash, Asst. Professor, Western Wyoming College (posted 10/23, 9:56 a.m., E.D.T.)

"Graduate school at elite institutions tends to be fear-filled and competitive, perhaps all the more so in an era when so few will find tenure-track jobs..."
-- Cindy Clark, Rutgers Camden (Adjunct faculty) (posted 10/23, 9:44 a.m., E.D.T.)

"I personally have experienced almost the exact same circumstances as you..."
-- Anonymous, Post-Doc (posted 10/22, 5:12 p.m., E.D.T.)

"The fact that graduate student life needs attention prompted the publication of a book..."
-- Anne S. Pruitt-Logan, Scholar in Residence, Council of Graduate Schools (posted 10/22, 4:36 p.m., E.D.T.)

"No longer a chemistry Ph.D. candidate, I can reflect on the truth of many concerns raised in your article..."
-- Ross E. Mitchell, Research Fellow, University of California, Riverside (posted 10/22, 4:06 p.m., E.D.T.)

"That the suicide of Jason D. Altom at Harvard University is a terrible tragedy cannot be denied..."
-- Sam Minner, Quillen Chair, East Tennessee State Univ. (posted 10/22, 3:54 p.m., E.D.T.)

"After attempting to pursue graduate studies at another institution that blatantly 'failed' me in terms of providing valuable academic guidance..."
-- Darius Annis, Masters of Public Health candidate, George Washington University, School of Public Health and Health Services (posted 10/22, 3:28 p.m., E.D.T.)

"So moved by the issue I will give my newspaper column space to this issue..."
-- Dr. Ellen Weber, Director of Secondary Education, Houghton College (posted 10/22, 11:36 a.m., E.D.T.)

"'Mostly, once an important faculty member has shown dislike for a student, that student is cut out of the student/faculty loop: the leper is expelled.' This happened to me..."
-- Anonymous, Ph.D. (posted 10/22, 11:09 a.m., E.D.T.)

"On the basis of my own limited experience, faculty are as likely as graduate students to commit suicide..."
-- Anonymous (posted 10/22, 10:54 a.m., E.D.T.)

"When I graduated from Harvard College in June 1995, the faculty and the national media were asking themselves the same set of questions about student life at the undergraduate level..."
-- Edith Wun, J.D. (posted 10/22, 10:44 a.m., E.D.T.)

"While I am very sympathetic to those graduate students who have been (and are being) abused, it doesn't have to be that way..."
-- L. Kevin McNelis, Ph.D., Asst. professor of accounting, New Mexico State University (posted 10/22, 10:03 a.m., E.D.T.)

"Although it is a natural response to attempt to find blame in such tragic situations,..."
-- Jamie Callahan Fabian, Assistant Professor, Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (posted 10/21, 9:54 a.m., E.D.T.)

"Mr. Altom's case is sad, to say the least. And yes, this sentiment is not uncommon in most research institutions..."
-- Akosua Addo, Assistant Professor (posted 10/21, 12:35 p.m., E.D.T.)

"I agree with "Anonymous Ph.D. student" that a big factor is that no one is policing advisors..."
-- Anonymous, Post-Doc, (posted 10/21, 12:09 p.m., E.D.T.)

"I think one of the biggest reasons why we have a system that allows faculty to abuse students and destroy lives is because no one in the academy is watching..."
-- Anonymous, Ph.D. student (posted 10/21, 10:10 a.m., E.D.T.)

"Is three suicides out of 600 graduate advisees greater than can be expected by chance?..."
-- Judith S. Shapiro, Ph.D., Adjunct Asst. Professor, Madonna University (posted 10/21, 9:48 a.m., E.D.T.)

"Human beings vary greatly in personality and patience. Faculty and students reflect those variations..."
-- Abraham L. Gitlow, Dean Emeritus, New York University (posted 10/21, 9:42 a.m., E.D.T.)

"My dissertation experience was harrowing. I attempted a qualitative phenomenology without having much training in such research..."
-- Henry A. Lister, Ph.D. in 30 days, UNC-Chapel Hill (posted 10/20, 3:34 p.m., E.D.T.)

"I provide the following for historical perspective on what one respondent has called, 'the politics of knowledge production.'..."
-- Molly Freeman, Education Consultant (posted 10/20, 3:15 p.m., E.D.T.)

"Both my own experience, and my thesis revolved around this issue..."
-- Elisabeth Sherwin, Phd, Asst. Prof., Georgia Southern University (posted 10/20, 12:16 p.m., E.D.T.)

"I find it interesting that all three who have responded so far seem to be women, although a male committed the latest suicide..."
-- E.M.B.G. Hughes, Ph.D., CEO, HLE Communications (posted 10/20, 10:24 a.m., E.D.T.)

"I remember when I was an undergraduate in South Carolina. The professors would always tell us how unimportant grades were..."
-- Omar Reyes, student, Andover Newton Theological School (posted 10/20, 9:59 a.m., E.D.T.)

"In my own research on doctoral experiences students described repeated instances in which the climate in their department and the relationship with their advisor contributed to unhealthy..."
-- Bobbi A. Kerlin, Ph.D., Portland State University (posted 10/19, 2:40 p.m., E.D.T.)

"'To whom much is given, much is required'..." Many people now question how someone as bright as President Clinton could engage in the type of risky behavior..."
-- Gay Davis, Ph.D., University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Assessment Analyst - University of North Carolina at Wilmington (posted 10/19, 12:08 p.m., E.D.T.)

"In doing research on graduate student attrition (survey of 816 completers and noncompleters from the same cohort, of which 305 were noncompleters, and in-depth telephone interviews with 30 of the noncompleters),..."
-- Barbara Lovitts, Pelavin Research Center (posted 10/19, 10:30 a.m., E.D.T.)


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