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Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Colloquy Moderator
Date: 10-01-04 16:15
Part-time professors are often caught in a bind when they try to
collect unemployment benefits. State laws say that adjuncts are not
eligible for the benefits if they have a "reasonable assurance" of
being hired again. The rules were designed to keep schoolteachers from
double-dipping by claiming they are unemployed over the summer
vacation. Adjunct leaders in Washington State have engineered a change
in the state law, but they say that some part-timers still have trouble
getting the benefits. Should the rules be changed around the country
for adjuncts? And what does "reasonable assurance" even mean when
professors can be cut loose because of low enrollment or curriculum
changes? Read more...
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Carl Nguyen, adjunct
Date: 10-04-04 10:40
I know a number of adjuncts who really know how to milk the
taxpayers out of every last unemployment penny. Its sickening and I
have turned some of them in to the local government agencies. I've even
turned in some of part-time teachers in the local middle school system
here in Michigan.
In my opinion, an adjunct is entitled to unemployment if and only if
they were employed at the start of the semester and they can prove the
class they were hired to teach was canceled. Moreover, they should not
be allowed to remain on unemployment longer than the current semester
or the state mandated payment term (which ever is less).
Anyone who doesn't support my ideas is just out to con the taxpayers...
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Bucknell University
Date: 10-04-04 10:57
Of course this practice is an unfair exploitation of adjuncts. But it
seems to me that this injustice, as with the many abuses that adjuncts
suffer, won't be suffiently addressed or rectified unless a national
adjunct union is formed. Adjuncts are powerless and are going to remain
that way unless they unite, along with full time faculty, to gain some
control over the institutions that exploit them.
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Bucknell University
Date: 10-04-04 11:17
Carl,
I hope this is a jest. However, if it isn't I wish you would send me
information on how to "milk the system". Since the system milks
millions of adjuncts, it would be nice to be able to turn the tables.
You must really have some secret knowledge you could share!
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: IL Duce
Date: 10-04-04 14:12
Carl Nguyen, adjunct wrote:
> I know a number of adjuncts who really know how to milk
> the taxpayers out of every last unemployment penny. Its
> sickening and I have turned some of them in to the local
> government agencies. I've even turned in some of
> part-time teachers in the local middle school system here
> in Michigan.
>
> In my opinion, an adjunct is entitled to unemployment if
> and only if they were employed at the start of the
> semester and they can prove the class they were hired to
> teach was canceled. Moreover, they should not be allowed > to remain on unemployment longer than the current
> semester or the state mandated payment term (which ever > is less).
>
> Anyone who doesn't support my ideas is just out to con the
> taxpayers...
Wow! Shades of the facist Bush administration. "If you disagree with
me, you are unpatriotic {and we will find reason to arrest you}."
Damn, dude, aren't you the dutiful little citizen, turning in your
fellow employees to the man for are getting fat on those big
unemployment bucks. Bet if you look around the 'hood, you can find some
welfare queens to rat out, too. And keep an eye out for those rascally
homeless children trying to grab an extra hunk of government cheese. We
all owe you a HUGE debt of gratitude!
I imagine you'll have a fan in Prof. Mfume, though.
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: James Francisco, IT Manager
Date: 10-04-04 14:32
Carl,
I think that you have a commendable desire to see taxpayer funds used
wisely. however I believe that you are wrong. Let's call adjunct
faculty what they are which is contingent staff contractors. Contract
professionals in other industries who are on a W-2 contract payroll
status are eligible for unemployment when they are not working. I speak
with some experience here as I worked for seven years as an IT
contractor.
The ability to draw unemployment when the time between contracts got to
be more than a couple of weeks was what enabled me to stay in the
business and even get more responsible positions during the dot-com
bust. I could focus on learning new skills and marketing myself without
having to worry about what my family was going to eat. Responsible
adjuncts would be able to use that "down-time" to become better
prepared teachers. Is there a potential for abusse? Yes, that is an
unfortunate part of life. However, if we consider equity to be a
positive social value, it is wrong for adjunct (contractor) faculty to
be treated any differently than any other contract employee. They
should be able to draw unemployment like any other contingent worker.
James Francisco
Mr. Nguyen, that's outrageous
Author: brendan, Midwest U.
Date: 10-04-04 14:50
I was an adjunct. More power to anyone who can squeeze more money
out of society for what they should be paying more. A former governor
here once referred to publich higher ed. faculty as pigs at the public
trough. He had it backwards. The government is just another aspect of a
society creating and maintaining a legalized peonage system, education
sweatshop workers. A lot of us have a hand in this too. I support the
use of unemployment insurance to elevate adjunct income from, oh,
40%-50% to 60%-70% of a normal starting salary.
Certain kinds of adjuncts are good in certain areas. A politician or
government administrator teaching government or political science or
public policy, etc. THAT's the ideal role. OK maybe an emergency,
temporary fill-in ... But nowadays, programs are LIVING on Adjuncts. A
program at my school in a Gen.Ed/Lib.Arts discipline was CREATED for an
adjunct. It's odious. The whole system is corrupt. We create many more
Ph.D.s that can be employed, creating a big, fat labor surplus that
gives our institutions the opportunity to keep wages down and keep the
number of full time faculty down by hiring more and more adjuncts. It's
corrupt. It's loathesome.
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: D. Rush
Date: 10-04-04 18:59
I am one of the adjuncts who helped engineer the change in the
Washington State law that allowed adjunct faculty to apply for
unemployment benefits during school breaks, i.e. Christmas, Spring
Break, August / September recess between summer and fall terms.
To qualify for such benefits, a minimum number of work hours (680) must
be accumulated within the previous four calendar quarters, a threshhold
applied to all applicants in Washington. One of the problems we ran
into was that the only hours being reported to The Dept of Employment
Security by the colleges were the in-class hours on which the contract
stipend was based despite the contract language stating that the
stipend was also meant to cover out-of-class prep, grading, and meeting
with students. This under-reporting of actual hours worked prevented
mant adjuncts from even qualifying for benefits. We rectified this by
getting the Dept of Employment Security to apply a scaling formula
based on the in-class hours to account for those out-of-class hours in
the same way they calculated eligibility for retirement and health
benefits for full-time instructors.
With respect to "reasonable assurance", we found that prior to the law,
the colleges were using previous employment history as a means to
justify their claims of the adjunct having "reasonable assurance" of
returning to their previous position. Our argument was that the primary
consideration should be the conditional nature of the employment offer
(enrollment level, program and budget changes) under which a course
could be cancelled or taken from the adjunct up to and even including
the first week of classes, regardless of past employment patterns
between the adjunct and the college.
As a final note, even if the adjunct does receive benefits, they often
are not comparable in amount or length of time to those typically
receiving such benefits based on employment in other areas of the
workforce.
These benefits typically only serve to "bridge the gap" for those who
are trying to make a living in academe hoping to gain experience and
have a foot in the door when a full-time position might open up. I
hardly think such benefits amount to "milking the system" since they
dry up rather rapidly.
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Terry, adjunct
Date: 10-04-04 22:23
The article about unemployment for adjuncts had a lot of good
points, but relayed incorrect information from the Community Colleges
of Spokane, which said that since it was a 9 month institution, that
adjuncts would no longer qualify for unemployment benefits. The
Washington state legislator who helped get adjuncts UI benefits noted
that being a 9 month institution has nothing to do with UI benefits.
Once again, administrators at an institution are spending their time,
and our tax dollars, trying to scare adjuncts and sending out wrong
information (lies?) in order to keep more money for them to spend. At
our school, they threw one million dollars at a "book dealer" who took
the money and left town. So we must be careful of the information that
the administration, and often of some union representatives, tell us,
as it is deliberate "misinformation." If only the administrators put
this much effort into finding funding to fully pay all their
instructors, and make our schools better learning experiences, without
attacking the teachers whenever possible.
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Jack Longmate, Olympic College
Date: 10-05-04 01:20
1. Unemployment is intended for earnest workers who are out of
work. Adjunct faculty in Washington state community colleges, like
other contingent faculty, are not employed between terms and therefore
can apply for unemployment between terms. To imply that such people are
“milking the system” is profoundly offensive.
2. It’s the higher ed establishment that’s milking contingent faculty.
In my case as an adjunct, I typically teach 70 percent of a full-time
annual teaching load; as such, my pay, as reported on my W-2 in 2003,
was $12,069, which is far from being 70 percent of the lowest ranking
full-time instructor. I’ve been teaching at my institution since winter
of 1992. Adjuncts applying for unemployment between terms is a small
way of compensating for the non-pro-rated pay.
3. A curious thing for adjuncts in Washington state is their
paydays: adjuncts have to wait four weeks for their first paycheck of
the term with subsequent paychecks issued twice a month thereafter,
while full-time faculty are paid at two-week intervals from the
beginning of each term. The reason for this difference is the lapse
between a “pay period” and a “payday.” As full-time faculty are
employed year-round, there is no problem to issue their paychecks two
weeks into the term, but adjuncts, by contrast, are technically not
employed prior to the beginning of the term’s beginning date. Issuing
them a paycheck only two weeks into the term effective pays them for
work they haven’t yet performed. (Passage of SB 2383 last year was
intended to rectify this delay in payment for adjuncts, but a number of
institutions, like mine, haven’t taken action to modify adjunct pay
dates.) This underscores the fact that adjuncts are not employed
between terms.
4. About the comment that the abuse of contingent faculty won’t be
addressed “unless a national adjunct union is formed,” it is worth
mentioning that some current union professional staff, who may be well
versed in K-12 issues, seem utterly ill-informed about unemployment for
higher ed contingents, and the meaning of “reasonable assurance” and
how colleges in Washington state now include it adjunct contracts as a
way of hedging against future unemployment claims.
5. I believe there is merit in the suggestion made by Dr. Keith Hoeller in his 9/23/04 Chronicle article (http://chronicle.com/jobs/2004/09/2004092301c.htm) that "...federal law needs to make explicit that the "reasonable assurance" provision does not apply to
adjuncts."
Jack Longmate (jacklongmate@earthlink.net)
Adjunct English Instructor
Olympic College, Bremerton, WA
Longmate is oh so out of touch...
Author: Carl Nguyen, adjunct
Date: 10-05-04 11:48
Jack, I'll reply to each of your items in turn.
1. Taking time off between terms to sit at home and collect a check
from taxpayers is milking the system. Unemployment is not supposed to
be a paid vacation. These adjuncts are educated people. They need to
find a part-time job in between teaching jobs to tide them over.
Taxpayers have no obligation to "fill in the gaps" for them. After all,
taxpayers have their own families to provide for. Sorry if you are
insulted, but if the shoe fits wear it.
2. If you think you are begin taken advantage of, go some place else.
Are those colleges holding a gun to your head? Is someone forcing you
to work there?
If the working environment is that bad, maybe you should consider some other industry to work in.
3. This is just whining. So long as you get paid what your contract says, where's the beef???
4. Your desire for a union tells me that you have had no real exposure to the AAUP. Be careful what you wish for.
5. I can't believe you want the federal government involved in your personal job issues. Be careful what you wish for.
I suggest Jack you take what I have written to heart. I have been doing
this for many, many years and I do know what I am talking about.
Adjuncts HAVE been playing the game. Maybe it is to survive.
Nevertheless, taxpayers are the ones putting up the ante so adjuncts
can play.
Its not right. It needs to stop.
real problem
Author: Anon.
Date: 10-05-04 12:32
The underlying problem here is not whether or not adjuncts are
elgible for unemployment, but why we have an education system where a
large number of our teachers need to supplement their salary. If
adjuncts were paid decently to begin with, or were made into full-time
employees, we wouldn't have these problems.
The spirit of unemployment is not to pay people who have the summer
off. The universities are abusing the system by having the government
supplement the salary of their underpaid staff.
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: John Beckenbach
Date: 10-05-04 13:14
I would like to respond to some of the comments made regarding
adjuncts receiving unemployment. One of the comments suggested that
adjuncts are powerless. Adjuncts, and all other workers for that
matter, are not powerless. A person can choose to work elsewhere. A
worker is selling a service, no different than a company selling a
widget. Further, companies are competing for that service. That is the
power adjuncts have. The can sell their service to the highest bidder,
so to speak. If one does not like the terms, he or she may sell his or
her service to someone else.
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Charles Naccarato
Date: 10-05-04 14:20
Several months ago, I wrote an article for THE CHRONICLE about how
adjuncts should try become more visible. The unemployment benefits
issue would be an excellent point of contact with full-time faculty,
faculty senates, or bargaining units. You have to make the case that
these inequities and this fundamental unfairness hurts the ENTIRE
profession. Also, institutions that purposely misconstrue state
unemployment regulations to further exploit an already exploited class
of educators should simply be ashamed to go before the public and make
claims for a better world through higher education. My essential advice
is not to suffer alone or in silence. Find someone who will listen to
sound arguments--someone with even a small connection to policy matters
and the power to change things.
On a personal note, I can't believe this stuff is still going on. I
first fought for unemployment benefits back in the seventies and early
eighties. "Reasonable Assurance" was still the operative concept used
to deny part-timers benefits. This strategy was used and supported by
college administrators and even some chairs who volunteered to testify
at hearings AGAINST their own faculty. This situation reached levels of
cynicism, outrage, and absurdity that are difficult for some outside
the acacemy to believe. For example, one day three hearings were
held--two people were denied benefits, while one was allowed. All three
people presented exactly same arguments. Kafka anyone?
As for Carl's position, I remember hearing a tenured professor arguing
that if non-tenured faculty didn't like their situation, they should
just get out of education. I said I would agree with him if he would
accept every policy and suggested pay raise handed down from
administrators for ALL faculty in the future. No more asking for
raises, better working conditions, or release time--no more full-timer
whining. He became a good advocate for adjuncts until he retired.
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Terry, Spokane CC
Date: 10-05-04 16:00
To Carl,
It seems pure slander to imply, as you do, that adjuncts are "taking
time off between terms to sit at home and collect a check from
taxpayers is milking the system. Unemployment is not supposed to be a
paid vacation. These adjuncts are educated people. They need to find a
part-time job in between teaching jobs to tide them over. Taxpayers
have no obligation to "fill in the gaps" for them. After all, taxpayers
have their own families to provide for. Sorry if you are insulted, but
if the shoe fits wear it."
To respond to your unsupported charges: Carl, Carl, adjuncts are
taxpayers!!! We are not taking paid vacations! We are talking about
time when we are not contracted. As for your suggestion to find a
part-time job between quarters, why don't you find a part-time job
between quarters and see how easy it is? Would you like us to work at
espresso stands? Great, maybe we would have to serve our students java,
or work as bartenders, and serve our students beer, or pizza drivers?
These scenarios certainly would give students the idea that having an
education pays off, right? Wrong! And I really resent your implication
that adjuncts don't contribute to the tax base. We are taxpayers, and
we have a right to legal UI benefits.
Second, Carl, I'm really disappointed to see you using the old "love it
or leave it" either/or argument, as well as your tired, offensive, and
violent gun metaphor. Perhaps you might have used the same argument
about slavery, that there's nothing we can do about it? I've discovered
that only quitters advise adjuncts to quit. Are you a quitter? Are you
ready to abandon your ship when you see an injustice.? If so, then why
are you in higher education? With your attitude of "If the working
environment is that bad, maybe you should consider some other industry
to work in," it seems that you will always accept the status quo, as
long as your paycheck is ok. I think you are the one who should
consider some other industry (as if teaching is an industry, which it
is not.) There are many petty dictatorships that might employ you.
Third you wrote this about Jack's excellent points, reducing them to
"This is just whining. So long as you get paid what your contract says,
where's the beef?" Like the governor of California who wishes he could
banish the debt with "Asta La Vista" or like George Bush "staying the
course" you have not advanced the argument at all or done any good. You
are only stooping to namecalling and popular culture "easy solutions."
Perhaps you need to take a basic logic and argument class, so you can
deal with Jack Longmate's reasoned and clear argument.
Four, we can discuss unions all day long, the democratic side and the
big boss side. If you have something against the AAUP, please be
specific, and avoid innuendo. We would all love to hear what you think
is specifically wrong with the AAUP.
Five, you wrote to Jack, "I can't believe you want the federal
government involved in your personal job issues. Be careful what you
wish for." Well, it took the federal government to develop civil rights
in the '60. The federal government is an easy target, but again it
often is an instrument of justice.
You wrote: "I suggest Jack you take what I have written to heart. I
have been doing this for many, many years and I do know what I am
talking about. Adjuncts HAVE been playing the game. Maybe it is to
survive. Nevertheless, taxpayers are the ones putting up the ante so
adjuncts can play. Its not right. It needs to stop."
I would advise Jack not to spend a moment thinking about your e-mail
that has no substance. I'd respond that Jack and I and others have also
been teaching as adjuncts for many, many years. WE HAVE MADE PROGRESS,
DESPITE NAYSAYERS. I'd like to ask you to reflect on your writing.
Aren't you just justifying this situation because you don't want to
take responsibility to fix it? We all get down because of the
difficulty and the seemingly impossible task. Sometimes, we even want
to blame each other, the way you blame other adjuncts for trying to
improve their situation. Carl, I'd ask you to reconsider your position,
and whether pouring your energy into making sure that all academic
professionals are treated equally might be a better use of your time
and energy.
Re: Longmate is oh so out of touch...
Author: Maria, Community College, MA
Date: 10-05-04 16:04
Perhaps it's Mr. Nguyen who is out of touch. The AAUP? You're
kidding I'm sure. I'm an AAUP member, and aside from issuing position
statements, there's not much else they're doing to help the thousands
of adjuncts around the country. The union at my home institution isn't
much better. Every year we pay our union dues as required, and what we
get is a small raise (3% range) about every 3 years. Sometimes we also
get contract resolutions requiring things like a committee to "study"
the issue of pro-rated health insurance benefits. We get questionnaires
in the mail which we dutifully complete and return, without result.
Other than that, the union is unable or unwilling to get us the what we
repeatedly ask for, things that will act to change the CULTURE of
institutions living on their adjunct faculty. For example:
(1) Priority for long-time adjuncts when full-time positions open up in
their work areas. If you keep hiring us, we must be able to do the job
you want. If we can do the job successfully for 5, 6, 10 years, why
can't we GET the job? Then unemployment would cease to be an issue.
(2) Related to this is the establishment of consistent
full-time:part-time faculty ratios. Should an institution have 300
part-time faculty supporting less than 100 full-time faculty? Should a
particular work area have 1 full-timer and 15 adjuncts? Consistent
ratios should be set according to type of program, type of institution,
and institutional mission.
(3) (yawn) Fair compensation and benefits. Does Mr. Nguyen think that
we sit home all summer getting a tan? The adjuncts I work with, with
the exception of retirees who have pensions, MUST have other work
besides teaching to survive in the expensive Northeast. Unemployment
compensation for a few weeks during the summer is a meager but
much-needed supplement to our total income.
Just because most of what I've written here is nothing new to most
Chronicle readers doesn't mean it shouldn't be said again and again.
That's part of what's required in making a cultural sea-change. So
what's the point of all this? We need a NATIONAL UNION WITH AN ACTIVIST
AGENDA. As pointed out by Brendan at Midwest U, many programs and
entire institutions really are living on adjuncts, which is true in
Massachusetts as well. Organizations such as the AAUP call upon
academia's "conscience" in efforts to gain equality for all faculty.
That the faculty in the majority of institutions around the country
remains bifurcated is clear indication that even in the hallowed halls
of academia, conscience is not enough. The only way to change this
downward spiral is to organize and act together. It's simple math that
institutions will continue this trend until we (adjuncts) cost them
more.
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Maria Eagle, MA
Date: 10-05-04 17:22
>>Contract professionals in other industries who are on a W-2
contract payroll status are eligible for unemployment when they are not
working.<<
Mr. Nguyen,
The above quote from Mr. Francisco, an IT Manager in this forum,
illustrates the issue of equity for part-time or adjunct community or
four-year college instructors and other employees of various states.
This includes graduate students who are used to teach undergraduate
classes, usually without supervision in my own experience, yet paid
less than minimum wage. My late husband was a marine engineer with a
powerful union, Marine Engineers Beneficial Organization (MEBA). His
profession was one of the highest-paid for persons who did not
necessarily go beyond high school, as he did not. Every year, rules
required that the marine engineers spend a certain amount of time "on
shore." During this time, they were paid full unemployment benefits.
Because of the high pay of their profession, they received maximum
benefits.
I worked then, as I do now, as an adjunct or part-time college teacher,
often rushing from school to school just in time to stand up in front
of the next class. In Washington State, they sometimes call us "gypsy
teachers" because of the long distances we have to commute to cobble
together a living wage. I earned about $12,000 a year working four
quarters a year. Now, decades later, I earn virtually the same salary,
have no medical benefits, and no retirement. My current income hovers
just above the poverty level for a family of one.
My late usband earned around $80,000 for three months of work, then was
able to collect unemployment when he was mandated to be on shore. He
also received fully paid and generous benefits for the entire family.
As for "reasonable assurance" that he would be employed again, one
could say that because for 25 years he always shipped out again, that
might constitute reasonable assurance.
Was he milking the system? Was MEBA? Are you, Mr. Nguyen, going to take
on MEBA and turn in all those lazy marine engineers who lounge about on
shore when they're not working?
My point here is not only about equity in pay, but also how our society
values various kinds of work. I believe that teaching is one of the
most important professions, and that adjunct faculty are some of the
best teachers. After all, we don't have tenure to rest on. We know we
can be fired at will. We teach because we passionately care about
offering quality education to every individual, and because we believe
that critical thinking and communication (as well as other skills) are
essential to a democratic society.
Yet our society values running the engine of a ship at around $4,000 a
week for an "ajunct" marine engineer. In one month at sea, my husband
earned what I earned in an entire academic year. Does our society value
the profession of education and teaching as it values the rapid
movement of goods between countries? Are teachers still expected to be
nuns and monks who teach for the greater glory of the Higher Power and
do without a personal life?
Clearly, the states use part-time workers not only as adjunct
professsors, but in numerous other professions to avoid paying not only
unemployment but also medical insurance and retirement. Yes, Mr.
Nguyen, this saves the taxpayers' money. But at what expense?
Nguyen is correct
Author: E-Doc, Midwest Liberal Arts
Date: 10-05-04 18:17
As near as I can follow Jack Longmates rambling, comments his basic
complaint is that as an adjunct he is underpaid and worthy of more
compensation. This compensation could come from the colleges in the
form of better/more pay or from the state in the form of improved
access to unemployment benefits. But someone owes Jack money!
Look, adjuncts decide to enter into a contract that causes them to be paid a rather low salary and not given benefits.
At the conclusion of this employment cycle they conclude, "hey, I am
being exploited by the system." No, they are not being exploited, they
entered into a contract out of their own free will and now they do not
like the results. No one promised them nice jobs with interested
students and paid summer vacations. If you do not like your job pay or
benefits, go do something else!
The next comment we hear is that they went to school for X number of
years and they can't make a living doing what they are trained to do.
So what? Go deliver pizza, it pays better than college teaching. If
your skills are not marketable, you need to go do something else. I
often teach MBA classes and every term I have medical doctors, bench
scientists and school teachers in my classes that, unlike college
professors, seem to understand that if your skills do not pay what you
feel you are worth, go get trained to do something else!
Next comment we read is that the colleges should pay the adjuncts
better to get better teaching. What? My guess is that the local college
knows exactly what it is getting when it pays its adjuncts very little
money. It is getting bored retired people that will work for very
little money because they enjoy the stimulation. It is getting bored
professionals they will work for very little money because they enjoy
doing something different. It is getting a few, whiner professor
wanna-be types that can't handle the fact that they graduated 20th in a
class of 22 from a second rate college. Sorry, I know, the
underemployed Harvard Ph.D. will soon fire away in complaint. But I
stand by my point. If you were skilled, the market would pick you up
and pay you a nice salary with summers off to talk to students.
To paraphrase another Jack, what Jack and 99% of the other adjuncts
can't handle is the truth. You are not skilled/smart/hard enough
working at publishing to get fulltime work.
Sorry guys, but no one promised you an easy life and to me your efforts
to get unemployment represent yet another effort to get someone else to
pay for your inability to compete.
I will post without a name to stop the same adjunct faculty at my
school would want to kill me. Who says PC Codes are not alive and well?
Response to Carl Nguyen
Author: Jack Longmate, Olympic College
Date: 10-06-04 00:25
Dear Carl,
1. K-12 teachers and full-time HE faculty would be milking the system
if they received unemployment, since their jobs are generally
full-time, even though they may not teach during the summer. With
contingent faculty, on the other hand, they are unemployed when they’re
not teaching.
What’s more, their part-time status is involuntarily. They are victims
of a system which, rather than creating full-time positions, hires
many, many part-time instructors at severely discounted pay rates with
restricted workload assignments. The fact that Washington state has
only 3,700 full-time instructors compared to over 11,000 part-time
instructors is not because there isn’t enough work to justify more
full-time positions. It’s to save money.
For these poverty-level professionals, receiving unemployment is hardly “a paid vacation” at taxpayers’ expense.
It’s true that no one is forcing adjuncts to teach. But when there are
no full-time positions, there is hardly much choice in the matter. To
introduce competition into the system, one idea would be to discount
tuition for courses taught by adjuncts at the same rate that adjuncts’
pay rate is discounted. Wouldn’t taxpayers be delighted if their sons
and daughters could get a 57 percent tuition break if they took a
course from an adjunct?
2. You suggest that if employment conditions are so bad, that it would
be prudent to work elsewhere. For those considering money alone or just
their personal situation, that may be sound advice. But such an
approach does little to remedy the dysfunctional nature of higher
education in our country. I might step aside, but then someone else
might earn the $12,069 that I earned in 2003. Or isn’t that a problem?
4. In the reference to unions, my purpose was to point out that
established unions, like the one I’m a member of, do not serve adjunct
faculty very well if their professional staff is consumed by K-12
issues, leaving them unaware or ill-informed of issues like
unemployment for adjuncts. I’m unclear where you were heading in your
reference to the AAUP; I have to say that, while I am not a member,
those connected with the AAUP and its leadership are among the most
intelligent and civic minded in our country.
Carl, since you seem so determined in the positions you take, why don't
you explain a bit more about your background and how you came to have
the convictions that you do?
Best wishes,
Jack Longmate
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: I'm a prof, hubby is adjunct
Date: 10-06-04 10:54
Adjuncting is a choice. The problem is that we academics allow
universities to exploit them but the public isn't responsible for
supporting them. If an adjunct is teaching 4 classes or whatever the
full-time workload is at her institution, she should get benefits while
she's working there. If there aren't courses for her to teach every
semester, she doesn't deserve to file for unemployment because she
knows that adjuncts are never guaranteed work, so it's a choice she's
making to adjunct. I think that if we want to involve the government,
get them to pass a law that says universities cannot exploit adjuncts
and must treat them fairly. The way the system is set up, adjuncting is
not a career and should not be treated as one. The system needs an
overhaul.
Re: Unemployed or Just out of work
Author: A former adjunct
Date: 10-06-04 11:50
I question "I'm a Prof"'s assumption that adjuncting is a choice.
In today's market, it's often the only option for people who want to
continue to teach on the college level, but are unable to secure
full-time teaching jobs. It's either adjuncting or finding a job
outside of academia, which doesn't help the cv when it's time for the
next round of job applications.
Re: Unemployed or Just out of work
Author: Carl Nguyen, adjunct
Date: 10-06-04 13:29
"I question "I'm a Prof"'s assumption that adjuncting is a choice.
In today's market, it's often the only option for people who want to
continue to teach on the college level, but are unable to secure
full-time teaching jobs. It's either adjuncting or finding a job
outside of academia, which doesn't help the cv when it's time for the
next round of job applications."
If you cannot land a fulltime job in academe, it's because you didn't
earn it. If your institution didn't prepare you for an overly impacted
market, then you failed to do your homework BEFORE opting to accept
enrollment into that graduate program. If you graduated from a graduate
program with a high placement history and you STILL couldn't land a
fulltime job, then whose fault is that? If you can't put the
publications out, or if you can't teach well, if students don't like
you, if you are an irascible colleague, if you are a bad job
interviewee, if you get so nervous during a job talk that you botch it,
if you can't field the inappropriate interview question with aplomb, if
you know going into the profession how unbelievably fickle the hiring
process is and how incredibly competitive TT jobs are even in the most
isolated and disreptuable institutions, if you aren't aware that the
majority of candidates take two to three years just to make a SHORT
list for a TT job....if nobody informed you of or prepared you for this
scenario and you are only now coming to this realization and your long
held ideals of a life of the intellect are crumbling before the
numerousand hopeless manila envelopes you're about to mail out, then
you must leave. This is academia. This has ALWAYS been academia. This
will always BE academia. And if, by chance--by some fickle chance--you
DO land that dreamt of TT job, you will compromise those ideals as you
find yourself on the path to becoming Deadwood because you'll have
worked so hard and been so worked over that your youthful idealism will
seem as a joke. It will be nice for a while, but then you'll wonder,
"All of this work and emotional agony and grey hair--for this? To call
these people colleagues? To teach these bored students? For this
pittance of a salary? To writre another boring book that maybe ten
percent of those in my specialized field will read (80% of whom will be
critical of my scholarship)? To counsel neurotic and immature graduate
students in the hopes that one out of fifty of them might make it
through their jargon-laden dissertations to join me in the ranks of the
disenchanted? To live a life apart instead of in contingency with all
that you held so dear while you were a graduate student?
What a foolish, foolish choice. You deserve all the exploitation that falls upon your altruistic shoulders.
Re: Longmate is oh so out of touch...
Author: Monica
Date: 10-06-04 13:39
Carl Carl Carl,
Sounds to me like what you need is the love of a good, honest, caring
woman to teach you compassion and understanding for others, especially
for your fellow workers. I know someone who's available in the DC
suburbs and might be a perfect match for you -- her name is Linda Tripp.
Research post-doc positions?
Author: Doug Strout, Alabama St. Univ.
Date: 10-06-04 14:03
I'll admit to having zero experience at having to support myself on
adjunct teaching, but I do sympathize with the difficulties in finding
a tenure-track job. I spent four years job hunting after graduate
school until I finally got a tenure-track position here at ASU.
Instead of adjunct teaching (and suffering the concomitant employment
problems), I was employed in research post-doc positions, which is
where I thought Ph.D.s went while waiting for the big tenure-track
break (in my field, anyway, which is chemistry). I had great
experiences, made a 12-month salary, and even did a little adjunct
teaching on the side to build my CV. Is this a possible solution to the
suffering of some adjunct Ph.D.s?
I understand that my message here is not directly on point regarding
adjunct unemployment benefits, but several posts in this debate have
focused on alternatives to adjunct teaching (where else adjuncts could
go if they don't like the conditions). Just trying to offer an
alternative.
Is part of the problem with adjunct conditions an imbalance between
supply and demand of Ph.D.s? If supply is way above demand, Ph.Ds can
always be exploited because replacements can always be found for anyone
who speaks up and complains.
Re: Monica...
Author: Carl Nguyen, adjunct
Date: 10-06-04 18:32
Monica, Monica, Monica,
Why do you assume that I'm heterosexual? Is it because you also assume
on seeing my surname that I must be an overbearing, patriarchal Asian
male? Then you must also assume that no woman can care for me who I
will not also physically abuse and exploit. So why do you make such a
wrongful suggestion?
Please, Monica.
Carl Nguyen
Author: Dana Zimbleman
Date: 10-07-04 07:15
Mr. Nguyen:
In your latest self-righteous rant, you failed to answer Mr. Longmate's
questions about your credibility to speak on these matters. What,
specifically, qualifies you to issue such a blanket indictment of every
single adjunct in the United States? Your sweeping generalizations fail
to illustrate that you can argue a logical point.
Re: Longmate is oh so out of touch...
Author: Maria, Comm. college, Mass.
Date: 10-07-04 10:30
I'm interested to know how Mr. Nguyen (or any other readers) feel
about the idea of part-time faculty applying for and collecting
unemployment benefits as activism, since doing so effectively raises
the cost of an institution's use of adjuncts rather than full-time
faculty.
As I mentioned in my previous post, it's simple math that institutions
will continue the trend of overreliance on and exploitation of
part-time faculty until these actions start costing them more.
Nguyen's Credibility
Author: Dana Zimbleman
Date: 10-07-04 11:11
Mr. Nguyen writes, "If you think you are begin taken advantage of,
go some place else. Are those colleges holding a gun to your head? Is
someone forcing you to work there?"
This same argument was used by many of the Robber Barons in the
nineteenth century to rationalize child labor and inhumane conditions
in factories during the Industrial Revolution. Is Mr. Nguyen suggesting
that employers have an absolute right to set any sort of working
conditions they choose for their employees and if the employees don't
like it, they can "go someplace else"? At what point can workers object
to their treatment? Or perhaps Mr. Nguyen believes that if a
company/institution decides not
to pay workers at all, the employees can put up with it or get out.
Actually, the adjunct position is far more defensible than Mr. Nguyen's
ill-conceived argument. He writes, "If you cannot land a fulltime job
in academe, it's because you didn't earn it." What, pray tell, are your
criteria for "earning" a job? What can you tell us about your
background on hiring committees? Please explain to the members of this
discussion board what qualifies you to speak so authoritatively on how
inept and unqualified part-time teachers are. By your own standards, we
have to dismiss what you are saying. After all, you are ONLY an adjunct.
Re: Carl Nguyen
Author: Carl Nguyen, adjunct
Date: 10-07-04 11:21
"Mr. Nguyen:
In your latest self-righteous rant, you failed to answer Mr. Longmate's
questions about your credibility to speak on these matters. What,
specifically, qualifies you to issue such a blanket indictment of every
single adjunct in the United States...?"
Well, my dear Ms Zimbleman, certainly nothing I've read from your
shallow and overly determined rosy online accounts of community college
teaching, where adjuncts are arguably the MOST exploited commodity in
all of higher ed. Only a fool stays on to teach at such a place
thinking s/he has no better financial alternative than to earn
$800-$2500 per class, knowing that s/he will only be offered just
enough classes so as NOT to qualify for benefits. Do I lie, Ms
Zimbleman? Do I rant? Is my experience exceptional or has it come to be
accepted as the rule among adjunct teaching? I stay because I enjoy the
teaching, not because I'm idiotic enough to think I could ever make a
"living" on such wages--unless of course I had nothing but time to
drive from campus to campus and then spend my time at home teaching
online classes--or that things will soon change for the better. They
will not. Yes, yes, you CAN make $80,000 teaching as an adjunct, as
another idiotic online columnist claimed, just don't take time to eat
or breathe--and make your assignments as transparent and substanceless
as the wind. Your students will appreciate it!
Please, Ms Zimbleman.
Re: Research post-doc positions?
Author: Bill Harle, Grad Student,NMSU
Date: 10-07-04 11:45
Adjunct instructors should enjoy the same benefits and restrictions
as do independent contractors in any profession. Because adjunct
instructors do not maintain permanent full-time status at their
prospective institutions, they should not receive nor expect the same
rights, protections, compensation, or privileges set aside for their
permanent counterparts. To assume any additional considerations are
appropriate, demonstrates a simplistic understanding of how higher
education is funded. Trade laborers have operated under these
distinctions for decades and understand that independence has a price.
Educators should not expect a different playing field.
Longmate's loaded words
Author: E-Doc Midwest Liberal Arts
Date: 10-07-04 13:22
I remain in firm agreement with Nguyen's points if not his wording.
Longmate and Maria keep using the loaded words of "overreliance on and
exploitation of part-time faculty". Nguyen and I both reject this
point. It is NOT exploitation to hirer willing employees at a salary
lower than other people or even lower than I am willing to accept.
Longmate agreed to work at the salary. If he is underpaid (by his
measure) then he should go do something else. The is not some greater
conspiracy forcing adjucts to work for this allegidly low pay. Going
furthure, most schools have more applicants for adjunct work than they
have slots. Some of the evidence suggests Longmate and other adjucts
are not exploited; rather, they are over paid and exploiting the
college students. After all, the high tuition dollars are going to pay
faculty and adjuncts that would willingly work for LESS money.
Maria, Longmate and others, please define the terms of "overreliance"
and "exploitation". I do not want you to say, "this is an example of
exploitation or of overreliance." Define it. My college teaches 50% of
the english classes with adjuncts and I am told often this is too much.
What does this mean?
EJM
Employees or Self-Employed
Author: out of the adjunct biz
Date: 10-07-04 15:58
I think there is one thing going on with adjuncts in higher ed that
really needs further examination, before determining whether
unemployment benefits should be rightfully extended to adjuncts:
While the Hoeller article discusses how adjuncts don't qualify for
unemployment because of the "reasonable assurance" test under
unemployment eligibility law, the assumption that adjuncts are
employees at all, like other teachers, needs to be tested.
On one hand, employees get all sorts of benefits from their employers,
and even part-time employees can qualify for unemployment benefits
(depending on specifics of state law). Meanwhile, self-employed persons
typically do not qualify for unemployment benefits - although a
self-employed individual is allowed to buy unemployment insurance
directly from the state (I *think* - don't ask me for the particulars
on this). And, self-employeds, in so many other fields, typically get
paid *more* than regular employees precisely because the employer is
not paying into their social security, withholding taxes, providing
unemployment benefits, etc.
But of course, colleges and unis do withhold the taxes of their adjunct
instructors. And those temporary contracts do use the word "employee"
to refer to adjuncts, especially in the sentence "Employee can be
terminated at will." But in all other respects, aside from taxes,
colleges and unis tend to treat adjuncts as independent contractors -
no employee or fringe benefits added usually. A common term to describe
adjuncts, "hired gun", seems to bear out the sentiment that adjuncts
are not "real" employees, but more like temps (but self-employed ones,
instead of thru a temp agency that referred them to the uni). It makes
one wonder if the word "employee" in the temporary contract isn't a
mistake, borne out of careless drafting of the contract itself. Perhaps
the more accurate word should be "independent contractor".
Anyway, so what's my point? My point is, if you are an employee, you
should get certain benefits that all other employees get due to their
paying taxes - if, indeed, the taxes withheld include unemployment
taxes. (This whole argument completely side-steps the reasonable
assurance test, and the particular carve-out exception to
unemployment-eligibility-during-summers-off for teachers in general, by
the way). If you are a self-employed individual, then you should be
able to get unemployment insurance through the direct route (and
because the uni or college is not providing you with any benefits, your
pay should be higher to compensate (at it is for self-employeds in
other fields), so you can then turn around and use that extra money to
pay into Social Security and EI yourself). This would not be a "gift" -
this would be just and fair compensation to you as an independent
contractor or vendor). And you should be able to access the benefits
that self-employeds typically have - such as being able to deduct more
things as business expenses (such as the cost of mileage driving your
vehicle to and from the place(s) where you teach), or commuting costs,
and any other expenses you incur during the your engaging in the
enterprise of part-time teaching (I'm especially thinking of deducting
the cost of a laptop computer, in this instance).
But as it stands now, in practical terms, adjuncts are being treated as
self-employeds and going without the usual benefits of being an
employee (e.g., employer-provided unemployment insurance, health
insurance). And, at the same time, adjuncts are being treated as
employees, by having taxes withheld and not being able to take the
benefits of being a self-employed individual (higher pay for the same
work, usually; deductions for business expenses, AND, being able to
obtain unemployment insurance directly from the state for a fee). So
adjuncts are getting the worst of all worlds (but you knew that) - all
the burdens of being an employee AND a self-employed individual, but
neither set of benefits that comes with being either an employee OR a
self-employed individual.
And I suppose this whole thread about adjuncts and EI should put to
rest one notion: adjuncts, even if adjuncts are employees, are not
really treated as such - nor are they treated as belonging to the
"academic community" of either their home institutions or of the larger
academic profession. This is part of the reason why I left adjuncting
(and also later left my assistant professor position). The two-tiered
system stinks.
Sorry Bill Harle
Author: out of the adjunct biz
Date: 10-07-04 16:06
Sorry, Bill - your post stated much more succinctly what I was
trying to say in my LONG post. (I didn't reload the page and see your
comment until after I sent in my long post).
Also, I am now very curious about Carl Nguyen because of all of his
impassioned posts. When I adjuncted, I also worked full-time in a field
that paid. Consequently, I did not feel like I was exploited personally
because I had my full-time (and non-academic) job to pay the bills. The
adjunct job was just pin money. Mr. Nguyen, would you be so good to
enlighten us at to your "status" - why is it that you don't feel like
you are being exploited? I really am curious to know (this is a sincere
question).
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Psychologist
Date: 10-07-04 16:33
Good old invective, name calling, and poor reasoning have taken
over yet another colloquy, and Molly hasn't even found a way to trash
60s leftists yet (or if she has, she hasn't posted it). It seems to me
there are pretty straightforward questions here: what is the purpose of
unemployment insurance and how should it apply to adjunct faculty? The
issues of whether adjuncts are exploited and how they are to earn a
reasonable living are important in and of themselves, but they are
irrelevant to this discussion.
So, would someone with actual knowledge please explain the history and
philosophy of unemployment insurance so those of us who are ignorant in
this area, such as myself, aren't tempted to spout nonsense. Then could
someone try to analyze how unemployment insurance ought to apply to
adjunct faculty, keeping in mind the variations in adjuncts' situations.
I have a suggestion for another colloquy: a discussion of why so many
people who work in higher education are angry and resentful towards
each other and towards higher education in general. Or perhaps more
specifically, why so many people who post messages here seem to feel
that way. I like my job, I like most of my colleagues, I like most
students I meet, and I feel fortunate to be able to do meaningful work
in a university environment. My wife works in higher education and when
she began to hate her last job and many of her colleagues, she got a
new job. I have a hard time understanding why people keep doing what
they're doing when they seem to despise their employers, students, and
many of their colleagues. I mean this as a serious question, not as a
disguised criticism or prescription.
Carl Nguyen
Author: Dana Zimbleman
Date: 10-07-04 18:39
Mr. Nguyen:
Once again, you have failed to answer the very simple question that
several other individuals and I have posed to you. What professional
credibility do you have to make the assertion that "If you cannot land
a full-time job in academe, it's because you didn't earn it"? Moreover,
in your latest posting, you appear to contradict this position when you
write that community-college "adjuncts are arguably the MOST exploited
commodity in all of higher ed." So which is it, Mr. Nguyen? Are
part-time faculty exploited or not? You have made some very
controversial statements in this discussion forum that we have asked
you to clarify. Since you claim to know so much more about this than
the rest of us, let's hear what your background is.
You began the discussion with an either/or fallacy: "Anyone who doesn't
support my ideas is just out to con the taxpayers." Your submissions
have continued to become even more illogical. I am beginning to wonder
if they are merely prank postings.
Re: Research post-doc positions?
Author: James Francisco, IT manager
Date: 10-07-04 19:41
Bill,
There are a number of models for contingent employees (contractors).
There are two big categories, W-2 contractors and 1099 contractors.
This refers to the form that their income is reported to the IRS. W-2
contractors get a paycheck with taxes and even sometimes benefits
deducted. 1099 contractors generally get either a lump sum payment or a
series of payments with no taxes deducted. The 1099 contractor is
reponsible for paying all of their own taxes in full.
Another factor of the W-2 Contractor's life is that someone is paying
unemployment premiums on their pay because they are legally someone's
employee. Sometimes the law actually considers them to be employees of
the firm that they are contracting for. Vizcaino v. Microsoft is a good
example of the case law in that area. And, they are legally entitled to
unemployment between contracts. On the other hand, the 1099 contractor
is not entitled to unemployment at all. This is becaue they are
considered to be an independent business.
I've been in both situations. I've worked in the IT industry as a W-2
contractor, I've also been an Adjunct as both a W-2 and 1099 status.
When IT contracts ended, I've collected unemployment between contracts
as the law allows. I do have to admit that I've used my teaching to
reduce my need for unemployment in the lean years. I teach because it
makes me a better IT professional and a more articulate advocate for my
main profession. After all of the rants, insults, and ad hominem
attacks that we have had here, I still think the issue is clear.
Adjuncts who work on a W-2 contract status should be treated by the
state no differently than the IT people, and the fishermen, and the
construction workers who all draw unemployment in the lean months.
Adjuncts who are out there on 1099 status need to sharpen their
business management skills because they have entered the world of
entrepreneurship for better or for worse.
Finally, some have mentioned the glut of PhD's, particularly in the
Humanities. Right now that is true. But, I know of one community
college district near Really Big U where I work that will have a 40%
turnover in the next two to three years because of retirements. There
will be more oppportunities.
Re: For Dana...
Author: Carl Nguyen, adjunct
Date: 10-07-04 22:59
Twenty-two years total at thirteen insts. of higher learning. I
spent the first ten (yes, TEN) as an adjunct while finishing the
dissertation and then plying my wares on the market. Then five years on
the tenure track. Yes, my first ten years were given a whole year's
worth of credit toward tenure in my first full time job. Five years as
an associate professor at a private college--the last three of those as
an asst. dean. Yes, Ms Zimbleman, if you must know, if it means
anything to you and your silly demands to know whereof I speak, I've
been on both sides of the interview table/hotel queen bed/hotel couch.
I NEVER hired adjuncts--or recommended their hire--who taught for the
money because there just wasn't any for them (beyond the crumbs I
already mentioned), try as I might to increase their wages. Teaching is
not about the money. If it were, there would be one hell of a lot more
better teachers in the profession than there are today. I left the
"profession" a few years later for personal reasons, not the least of
which involved my realizing a small fortune on certain investments I'd
made. I never left teaching, though, because I love it.
Now that you know the irrelevant details of my bg, Ms Z, shall we turn
to yours? Are you one of those faculty, Ms Z, who turned to CC teaching
because you couldn't land a job at four-year or research inst? Your
cheery little columns do little to mask the reality that you turned to
CC teaching as an ALTERNATIVE career to a university career because you
simply could not land a job there, am I not correct? Do you lie to
"in-house" candidates, telling them after years of dedicated teaching
that "you're a shoo-in for the job because we all just love you," and
then exchange awkward greetings or avoid contact altogether when your
search committee goes for the other candidate with the "fresh" ideas?
Do you love your 5/5 or 3/3/3 teaching load? "It's an obsession, not a
profession"-- is that how you rationalize the drudgery? Would you leave
for a slightly higher paying job with a much lighter teaching load
teaching far fewer students per class and NO remedial courses? Would
you do that, Ms Z? Please. Don't patronize me. Do you feel good that
you can make comments to job candidates fresh out of grad school such
as "I hope you don't have any plans to do any scholarship because you
won't have time to scratch your ass with this teaching load"? What do
YOU tell adjuncts, Ms Z? "Hang in there. Salary increases are on the
way!"? Or do you tell them things like "I'm sorry, but if we gave you
that other class that just came open, why, you'd then be eligible for
half benefits. We're just goping to have to cancel it. But we love the
work you're doing for us!"
Or will you say that YOUR institution does not use adjunct labor
because it so exploitative? Or that YOUR institution only hires
adjuncts to whom you can offer a full load of classes for a year and
thus benefits? Would such models of morality represent the changing
trend in education, or an anamolous example? I'll wager that the
adjuncts at your own institution would not think twice about taking
unemployment benefits over the summer even with full benefits and a
contract for employment for the following year. You paint a lot of rosy
pictures, Ms Z, but they are of the imaginary sort.
I'm tired of the whining I hear from recent grads who cannot land
fulltime jobs though they've secured multiple job interviews and made
several short short lists (cf, virtually ALL theonline First Person
essays on the topic). It's always somebody else's fault--a pig-headed
committee, a loose cannon on the search committee, "they just didn't
take the time to understand my work," "they failed to read between the
lines I fed them," "Woe is me! Nobody understands." Then, lo and
behold, a year or two or three later, they land a job and within a year
of their experience, they're complaining about the "lousy" crop of
candidates. Please.
Rants and attacks
Author: Maria Eagle
Date: 10-08-04 00:27
Thanks to those who pointed out that fighting is never so cruel and
bloody as in academia (except perhaps in current presidential attack
politics). Perhaps reasonable dialogue has been rendered obsolete by
call-in radio shows, reality television, or other venues that thrill at
negativity. Actually, when I think about it, most of my professors in
undergraduate and graduate school hated each other. I had to tiptoe
around to my thesis committee members because none of them would be in
the same room together.
For that matter, the tenured faculty at colleges where I've been a
student or instructor have also most often treated students and each
other with disdain and disrespect. And I even notice at my current
college that faculty do not make eye contact or greet each other. It's
a very odd culture, academia. I always tell my students to avoid it at
any cost.
I teach because I enjoy watching students progress from uncertain
writers and less than logical thinkers into more articulate citizens. I
also stress mutual respect between students even when engaged in
argument. I guess, as some here have suggested, I'm stupid or
inadequate because I didn't enter a field where I would have earned
more. I didn't graduate anywhere near the bottom of the class, as one
writer suggests, but the humanities nerd doesn't necessarily "get"
money. I've also published extensively, but for an adjunct, that
doesn't matter. We're not "promoted" even if we've published more than
all the tenured faculty put together. In this state, tenure's a
"track," and you're either on it from the start, or you're not. I've
done both, as someone else mentioned. I've also been in administration,
and in the nineties did make a couple big bucks designing on-line
learning material for Pro-
Quest.
I guess it all depends on one's value system. As the calm and reasoned
contributors to this forum (you know who you are) suggest, though, as
employees who are laid off depending on enrollment, including during
summer, we merit unemployment as do other tax-paying workers.
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Ben.N.nweke
Date: 10-08-04 01:27
The fact remains that a professor or any other worker at a credible
employment unit suppoe to earn a pay when on leave or vacation and the
tittle given to such benefit does not really mater.Hence, if the
professor is not salaried on vacation a given benefit suppose to be in
place for him.
Some other istitutions that values their staff like the bank are in the
habit of paying their staff while they are on leave and it is still
called salary .i do not see enough reasons why teachers or professors
should not receive a pay while on vacation.
From,
Ben.N.Nweke
31 odejobi street,
Agege,Lagos
framework question
Author: (Name removed at author's request)
Date: 10-08-04 02:08
Here's an interesting question: let's say you are young(ish),
ambitious, in love with a particular area of work, and willing to
invest much effort to gain expertise in your field of endeavor.
At the same time, you are well aware that your field is cyclical or
sporadic in its hiring/employment patterns, increasingly uncertain, and
possibly finite in its options. Yet you reasonably believe you have a
slim chance at securing full-time, long-term employment, which will
release you from these contingencies.
You decide, in light of all the above, to forge ahead.
Have you made a sub-optimal decision? Whether you have or not, do you
have any "right" to be supported when, as you slowly discover, you are
going to be contiually subject to the cyclicality of your industry (and
your paycheck)? Should any external benefits (such as UI) be granted to
you in a one-shot deal, or should they be granted annually?
Now, if you are providing a benefit to society that would otherwise be
hard to secure, does the answer change? What if academic institutions
prefer to have you agree (tacitly, perhaps) to teach annually on a
contingent basis but also to be eligible for UI? Should their "vote"
count? What if academics managed to convince Americans that we need to
have a pool of good teachers - but instead of giving them tenure or
tenure-track jobs, let's give them ALL adjunct jobs plus UI? (Ok,
sounds crazy, but work with me.) Anything change now?
I ask because I think how we answer these questions truly shapes the way we think about adjuncts' eligibility for benefits.
Mr. Nguyen is, I think, trying to point out that it seems irrational
for academics - who have long known the perils of the academic
sweepstakes - to sign up for this career track, get stuck in adjuncting
jobs (just as so many predecessors do!), and then "ask" for UI to tide
them over, year after year. From his vantage (correct me if I am wrong,
please!), this seems to be a poor calculation from the outset -
resulting in a search for "compensation" after the fact (funded by
American taxpayers).
Where I think Mr. Nguyen strays, though, is failing to recognize that
there may be an institutionalized preference for this emerging "system"
("adjunctification" plus externally-granted benefits). It is a truism
that academic institutions want, need, and depend upon a supply of
faculty. Equally evident is that they feel constrained (by budgetary
concerns) to increase their use of adjuncts and to minimize their
expenditures on adjuncts (shrinking salaries, compelling salary wars
among adjuncts that can be a "race to the bottom", waiting until the
last moment to see who they can get for the lowest cost, and so on).
Surely this means that many institutions would welcome adjuncts gaining
eligibility to UI - it is just one less expenditure for them, with a
sop to the conscience thrown in ("at least the adjuncts are getting
by").
What seems patently unfair, then, is to blame young faculty for
choosing to pursue academic careers and eventually turning to such
remedies as UI to enable them to continue their careers. Institutions
are complicitous, at the very least, in the situation. As, in a sense,
are we all: every American family that wants to send a child to college
wants (a) good teachers, (b) low tuition, and (c) (for most) the least
possible impact on taxes. How do we expect institutions to do this?
Well, by hiring adjuncts and turning academic labor into just another
short-term contractual labor pool. That seems, irrefutably, to be the
status quo.
But if so, Mr. Nguyen, rather than blaming adjuncts for wanting and
seeking some measure of compensation, why not see what's happening as a
rational solution to a simple economic concern? In cost-benefit terms
(and utilitarian terms, I'd add), we can solve a greater welfare
problem: give society (and academia) a pool of talented labor, keep
education costs down, and keep teachers compensated with skimpy
salaries and UI!
(Let me say right now that this is not what I'd advocate as the best
possible solution - it's just one way of looking at what has happened
as not a grievance but rather an outcome of sorts.)
I find it interesting (and a bit sad), by the way, that this might be a
converging point for faculty and administrators alike. But that's
another thought for another post.
Best,
(Name removed at author's request)
For Carl
Author: Dana Zimbleman
Date: 10-08-04 10:48
In addition to your numerous other talents, Mr. Nguyen, you appear
to fancy yourself all-knowing about my background. Do you also read
Tarot cards and palms as well? I'm afraid that you've made a number of
errors, however. Actually, my first full-time, tenure track position
was at a university, which I left because I was offered a higher salary
at a community college. I find it interesting that you first stated
that part-time faculty who do not have a full-time job simply did not
"earn" their position. You also argued that part-timers who sign a
contract have no right to complain about their working conditions. Now
that you are debating an individual (me) who has, according to your own
criteria of worthiness, "earned" her keep, you criticize me for working
in the community-college system, which according to you, exploits
adjuncts. You cannot have it both ways, Mr. Nguyen. You cannot deny
adjuncts are exploited and then change your position when it's
convenient for you. Are you now willing to concede that adjuncts ARE
exploited? Perhaps if you are, we can all move back to the subject that
we should be debating--unemployment benefits for adjunct faculty. I
support such an initiative. It is unclear to me from your change of
heart and recent sensitivity to adjuncts whether you have reconsidered
your position on the core issue.
By the way, I am glad you have read my "chirpy" columns, despite the
fact that your introducting them into the discussion is another red
herring to shift attention from the various inconsistencies you have
made in this discussion.
I feel pretty doggone "chirpy" actually, getting paid by the Chronicle
to share my experiences of moving from adjunct status to a full-time
position. Contrary to your assessment of my life (you make it sound so
dreadfully miserable), I am rather happy with what I've accomplished in
my career. Community college teaching isn't always a picnic, but I
rather enjoy what I do. I find it rather sad, however, that your
experiences and "realizing a small fortune on certain investments" have
left you so embittered. I certainly hope you don't pass on your
disillusionment to your students.
As far as your credibility to evaluate the quality of adjuncts, are you
going on record here to say the adjuncts you hired or interviewed who
had hopes of getting a full-time job but failed to reach this goal were
not as good as the full-time people who worked at your institution? If
so, haven't you committed some sort of fraud against the taxpayers by
hiring people who weren't good enough to get a full-time job?
If you would like to continue with this sarcastic exchange, I am more
than up to the task, as long as the Chronicle is willing to allow the
discussion to continue.
Re: Bring it on...!
Author: Carl Nguyen, adjunct
Date: 10-08-04 13:07
Bring it on, Ms Chirp!
I never once felt "exploited" in my ten years as an adjunct. I used
that time to MY benefit just as I knew the various colleges for whom I
worked had NO expectations of me other than that I teach well. If
adjuncts understood what they were getting into in accepting such
positions, perhaps they wouldn't feel so betrayed when classes are
unavailable the following year. They are told UP FRONT that their
positions are temporary. They are made NO gaurantees that their
positions will lead to fulltime hires (though they might be lead to
believe so by chirpy, chippy online columnists). "Embittered"? No. Free
to accept the teaching assignments I want when I want? You bet. Does
that make me the exception to the adjunct rule? Only if you're foolish
enough to think that you can support yourself indefinitely on adjunct
work. A fellow adjunct in a Philosophy dept. who had been there for
over ten years--he was well into his forties and had given up applying
to fulltime jobs after his sixth fruitless year-- is always, as he puts
it, one quarter away from moving back with his parents. I cannot
imagine living with such anxiety for one year let alone ten plus.
"Get out, man! Get out!"
"I can't," he replies. "I can't do anything else."
"You mean you WON'T."
"I'm too used to the academic schedule and the time off."
"Why, then, you deserve UI benefits!" NOT!
What do you tell the hangers-on, Ms Zimbleman? "Oh, why I just wrote a
column for the Chronicle entitled 'Hanging in There.' Why don't you
read it? And then read my fluff piece on 'The Ideal Community College
Interview: (Hint: Don't Mention Research Agendas! Hee-hee!).' By the
way, we just love the work you're doing for us! You're our in-house
candidate for the next job opening! Stay awhile."
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Molly Mfume, Prof. Emeritis
Date: 10-08-04 13:19
My god! Isn't it bad enough that we coddle our students? Now we
want to make adjuncts feel "valued" and "inclusive"? More liberalized
tripe, I say. If you are paid to teach, then teach. If the pay isn''t
suitable to you, then go someplace else where it is. We can see that
the generation of entitled brats is coming of age. Our educational
system is stretched far too thin to coddle every inconceivable need.
Grow up and join the real world, you whiners! Nobody forced you to get
a Ph.D. and nobody forced you to take an adjunct position. You chose
it. You live with it, or else move on!
Re: For Carl
Author: An interested observer...
Date: 10-08-04 13:29
Ms Zimbleman,
Before you throw down the gauntlet to Mr. Nguyen, might I suggest a
careful comparative reading between his earlier posts and his most
recent ones? I've noticed significant discrepancies in style,
expression, basic syntax between the first couple of posts and his
later ramblings. My suspicion, Ms Zimbleman, is that you, and others,
have been duped by a "faux" Carl Nguyen. Am I right Carl(s)?
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Psychologist
Date: 10-08-04 14:26
The world is right again. Molly found a way to trash liberals! I'm
not sure what her comments have to do with this topic, though, which
seems to have devolved to "we're being exploited and want someone to
give us more money" vs. "you're a bunch of loser whiners who should
shut up and do something else if you don't like it." I have a couple of
questions. Many of these messages seem to treat unemployment insurance
as an entitlement, a government benefit, or an employer provided
benefit. I always thought of it as a form of insurance, a way to share
risk. Sorry for my ignorance, but could someone clarify just how
unemployment insurance works? Who pays for it and what risk is it
supposed to spread? I imagine the specifics vary from state to state,
but how does this work generally? It seems that if we could get through
the vitriol, red herrings, and general silliness in this discussion,
there are substantive and complicated issues here. I have a hard time
reaching conclusions because I don't have a good understanding of
unemployment benefits.
To "Interested Observer"
Author: Dana Zimbleman
Date: 10-08-04 14:31
If you read one of my earlier postings, you will note I suggested
that "Carl" may be a fraud--or simply posting as a prank. That would
definitely explain the numerous lapses in logic and change of position
that I've observed. At any rate, at this point, it is becoming kind of
fun just to read what outrageous statements he/they will make next.
It's kind of like gawking at the scene of an accident, I suppose--a
less-than-positive characteristic of human nature.
McEducation
Author: Anon.
Date: 10-08-04 15:15
One thing that has come out in these various posts is that there are several competing issues here:
*A university system that hires several adjuncts rather than fewer
full-time faculty. This is the same way Burger King operates (tons of
part-time employees to save on benefits). Regardless of whether or not
an ajundct was "forced" to take this job - do we want our schools this
way? Is this good for the students?
*A huge number of phds for a small number of slots for full-time work,
especially if we only consider tenure-track positions. So we have a
large number of unemployed - or underemployed - phds who are used to
doing well and many of whom are shocked that they weren't snapped up by
higher level institutions for greater jobs [my point being that even if
adjuncts were entitled to unemployment, I doubt they would be pleased
with their jobs overall].
There are way more problems with this system than the unemployment
eligibility issue. They include the McEducation style of depending on
part-timers, the unrealistic expectations of those who want to work in
the university system (which perhaps relates to the system itself that
may have led them to believe they would become a prof at Big Ivy), and
the abuse (by at least some) of the welfare system.
Re: For Carl
Author: Bucknell University
Date: 10-08-04 15:17
It is a shame that this forum for serious consideration of an issue
that is very important to many people has become focused on one
personage. I think we should try to resist letting this happen here and
in other colloqies.
Robert Walz, Ph.D.
Re: McEducation
Author: Bucknell University
Date: 10-08-04 18:03
Anon, I like your analogy between the modern university system
and McDonalds. Adjuncts are paid a similar rate for services, I
believe. However, the analogy does break down at a crucial point: the
workers at McDonald's would be eligible for unemployment compensation
if they were to find themselves out of work; adjuncts, as we know,
would not be eligible.
I wonder when American universities will begin outsourcing distance education to other countries--perhaps they already do.
One semester when I was not able to secure enough classes to pay the
rent, I got a job working in a warehouse. The warehouse where I worked
was a very large warehouse (a former munitions factory) that stored
very large boxes of greeting cards. The workers at the warehouse would
use forklifts to get these large boxes down off of shelves and load
them onto large trucks. These people worked hard and worked many hours
straight. One reason they worked so hard was because they had to work
fast. The reason they had to work fast was because the warehouse needed
them to load trucks that went to major stores during holiday seasons.
The cards had to get to these stores within a very limited period of
time. When the holiday drew near, there was no longer any need for
greeting cards and therefore no need for warehouse workers. At such
times, the workers were laid off. When the workers were laid off, they
filed for unemployment compensation. After they filed for unemployment
compensatioin, they received unemployment compensation. The end. This
is a simple story and is similar to stories about roofers, construction
workers, farm workers and others. But for some reason, it is not
similar to stories about adjunct college instructors. I like to ponder
how long it will be before all college instructors are part time
adjuncts and the only full time workers will be the warehouse managers
(i.e. administrators). Any guesses?
Robert Walz
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Ben.N.Nweke
Date: 10-08-04 18:16
If you are so concerned about a name design for such benefits i may
say it should be better refered to as VAC-BENEFIT.By this one knows
that it is free from the monthly or usual salary /wages earned when the
vacation runs over and normal academic activities resumes.
From,
Ben.N.Nweke,
31 odejobi street,
Agege,Lagos.
Re: framework question
Author: Maria Eagle
Date: 10-09-04 16:12
(Name removed at original author's request),
Who the heck are you? I haven't read such a brilliant analysis ever,
anywhere. I know that the practice of many businesses to hire part-time
employees without benefits (Microsoft here in Seattle comes to mind) is
rife. But I lacked a larger socioeconomic articulation of the issue.
You have provided that framework, as you put it.
(By the way, as one writer pointed out, a third of our income as adjuncts goes to taxes. We, too, are taxpayers. And parents.)
Thank you.
Maria Eagle
Interested observer
Author: Maria Eagle, MA
Date: 10-09-04 16:33
Brilliant observation, Interested Observer. I too noticed that Mr
N's "sentence" (as V. Woolf calls it) has changed. I sort of wonder if
the Chronicle doesn't ask someone to start off the discussion with a
flame just to get us all agitated. If so, it worked. I'm awed by the
bile and attacks against adjuncts on a sort of personal level. My
observation over a lifetime in academia (and longer if you count both
parents' lifetimes in academia) is that tenure doesn't mean better. It
can be the biggest jerks who get tenure because they fit into the
system and play the ugly games. I've certainly attended universities,
or taught at them, where a certain toxic culture spreads via the hiring
practices. I'm sure this applies to any business. Again, amazing to me
in this "discussion" is the name-calling and personal attacks. I guess
Prof. Mfume would say I prefer "coddling." If coddling means measured
respectful dialogue and discussion, yep. That's what I prefer. After a
lifetime studying learning and teaching, I would also submit that our
students learn better when treated with respect. After all, they are
consumers. We are simply the trusted servants who deliver the goods--or
don't. If faculty are willing to be as rude to students as in this
"discussion," then it's no wonder that our society has become so
warlike and ugly. Yeah, bring it on.
Respectfully,
Maria Eagle
For Carl
Author: Demetria M. Shew
Date: 10-09-04 16:41
You need to get out more, dear. The very idea that we could even
find short term, decent paying jobs for the two to three week break
is...Carl, it is just nuts. There are no such jobs. Certainly not for
the 14,000 plus of us out here.
Why should we be denied unemployment just because we are college
teachers? We are no less Americans, no less citizens, no less
unemployed than steel workers or secretaries or engineers. We are
certainly no less hard working. Our mortgages, power bills,
prescription medications, and, yes, property taxes, do not stop just
because our contracts do.
Where is the logic in expecting employees to survive without any
compensation at all until the whim of the employer calls us back?
Why should teachers be singled out to either accept poverty wages,
uncertainty, weeks without pay...why should we, of all Americans, be
expected to either go hungry...or to get out of the profession?
Is it really better to have half (or more) of the college classes
taught by instructors who are worried, uncertain of their future, and
behind on the mortgage? Is it really better to have American families
where the parent(s) are working 50 to 60 to 70 hour weeks, either with
a "full time" job plus adjuncting, or adjuncting all over the map to
get enough classes?
There is more to this than us. The measure of a country may very well
be in the way it treats its teachers. The way we are treated may
forshadow the lives of our students. I, for one, would not want to
imagine that all of my hard work teaching would result in my students
having work lives like mine.
Demetria
Re: McEducation
Author: Maria Eagle
Date: 10-09-04 16:52
Anon,
Unemployment (or Unenjoyment as my marine engineer husband used to call
it) is not welfare! Welfare is a loaded term implying individuals who
exploit the system. I don't accept that implication.
Your other points are excellent and accurate.
Those who suggest that adjuncts (or any part-time workers) coast by on
"vacation" by applying for UI, please explain how $128.00/week affords
one a vacation?
Maybe people are thinking of Workers Compensation, which is funded by
the employer, and designed as a way to protect employers from being
sued individually by injured workers. Workers Compensation pays about
80% of the former salary.
Even those who earn the maximum UI compensation can't live on it. It's
designed to tide over those in professions which have periodic layoffs
at no fault of the employee. For example, in the Pacific Northwest,
many carpenters are laid off during winter because some kinds of
building cannot be performed when it's raining. For adjuncts, the few
classes offered during summer which result in many of us having
insufficient enrollment in our classes (or our enrollment going to
tenured faculty) constitute a seasonal layoff.
If single heads of household, most of us could not rely on UI to
survive layoffs. One person scornfully asked if she should serve
espresso during layoffs. Well, yes. My college graduate children who
are barristas make more than I do teaching college. Maybe, as (Name removed at original author's request)
says, we should all be adjuncts, and our students should pay us tips
for charm and good service. If so, some of the posters to this list
would be out of work.
Maria Eagle
Focus on one personage
Author: Maria Eagle, MA
Date: 10-09-04 16:57
Professor,
I agree 100% with your statement. Thanks for pointing out the need for
civil dialogue so succinctly. I do note that you're one of the few
professors in this forum who deems UI a serious issue. Many seem to use
the opportunity to denigrate adjuncts. Many adjuncts have masters
degrees. We're not eligible for tenure track in most schools.
Thanks again.
Cordially,
Maria Eagle, MA
A Different Tack
Author: Dana Zimbleman
Date: 10-10-04 18:51
Carl,
Call me Pollyanna if you will, but I cannot believe that you and I
would have this degree of contempt for one another if we knew each
other personally. The psychologist who posted here suggested that the
discussion has gotten too negative, and I agree with him. Therefore,
allow me to extend an olive branch. I hope that we can get back on
track with the unemployment compensation issue, but first let me answer
your questions from the last post.
You asked me what I "tell hangers-on" at the community colleges where I
work. I presume you mean adjuncts hoping to get a full-time job. I can
only share my own experiences and what worked for me. I worked as an
adjunct at a cc for two years and then got offered a full-time, tenure
track position at a university. Then, a year later, I was hired in a
full-time staff/teaching position at the same community college where I
worked part-time. The salary I was offered was higher than I was
earning at the university. Then, two years later, my duties became
exclusively instructional, and I subsequently earned tenure. In other
words, I worked my way up. Then, when I moved here to the Midwest to
get married, I was able to land full-time cc positions fairly easily.
Why was this the case? I can only speculate that my experience as a
full-time faculty member--including the requisite community service,
committee experience, etc.--made me an attractive candidate. I had no
special inside track or anyone pulling strings for me. I came from a
working class family, with parents who did not finish high school. I
have indeed come a long way, given my background. So yes, I am
optimistic that people can control their own academic employment
destinies to a certain degree. If that makes me perky or chirpy, so be
it.
That said, since I was one, I feel a great deal of compassion for
adjuncts. I am not oblivious to the fact that getting full-time work is
extremely difficult. I respect their dedication despite the fact that
they are paid a fraction of what full-time instructors are paid. I
fully support equal pay for equal work. If an adjunct has as many years
of experience as I have and teaches half as many courses as I teach, I
belive he/she should be paid half as much as I earn. Someone else in
this discussion said that adjuncts should be given priority when a
full-time position comes open. I support that idea as well. In fact, my
guess is that many smaller community colleges do hire their own people.
That was the case with me, and I have observed it at other institutions
as well.
Moreover, I believe that if institutions cannot afford to pay adjuncts
on the same pay level as full-timers, then they should eliminate
part-time help completely and only offer courses taught by full-timers.
This would eliminate a lot of classes, but I also believe we have an
ethical obligation to compensate educators as though we value
education. I am excited to hear that many pro-adjunct initiatives are
gaining momentum across the country. I hope the unemployment issue is
also successful.
These are merely my views from a moral and ethical standpoint. I cannot
claim to have any knowledge of how all of this will impact colleges and
universities fiscally or how much this will impact tuition. I do know
that people are complaining about how much tuition is going up all
across the country, despite the widespread use of contigent faculty.
Apparently, administrative costs/salaries are on the rise, so perhaps
this is something to scrutinize closely.
What's the problem with bucknell???
Author: Patty Murray, Evergreen St.
Date: 10-10-04 20:48
The colloquy between Zimbleman and Nguyen should most definitely
continue unabated because it IS the heart of the problem. Too many
adjuncts act like little children because they think they are oh so
abused. Dana Zimbleman's views are so far beyond reality that, under
other circumstances, they would be funny.
Adjuncts need to face reality. Adjuncts need to get into the real
world. People like Dana NEED to be rebuked because they are part of the
problem rather than part of the solution.
Carl Nguyen's viewpoint is more akin to reality. He probably has a lot
of industrial experience. Maybe that's why people like Dana are so
uptight about his realistic remarks. People like Dana feel threatened
by the truth.
People need to hear both sides of this argument. You, Walz are just trying to stifle the debate...
Re: What's the problem with bucknell???
Author: Stop the Whining
Date: 10-11-04 11:37
You know, I'm always saying the same thing about those tiresome
children who work in sweat shops in third world (or worlds, as W calls
them) counrties. Why the heck don't they stop their whining and go out
and find something else to do if they don't like working 12 hours a
day, 7 days a week? If they would go to school like they are supposed
to, instead of being money-grubbing urchins, everyone would be better
off. I blame their parents for not giving them allowances to buy their
toys and candy.
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: Self Actualization
Date: 10-11-04 11:46
Around the corner from where I live are two apartment towers called
Manhattan Plaza. These towers were built by the government primarily
for performing artists: actors, writiers, musicians, etc. Because the
state knows that performing artists have wild swings in their earnings,
rent is based on a portion of what they earn each year.
Why doesn't the state tell them to give up their dreams and go into
fields that provide steady income? Because they realize that peolpe
need to follow their talents and natures, perhaps, and are therefore
willing to subsidize them? If it is acceptable for the government to do
so for artists, then why not for academics?
Re: Unemployed or just out of work?
Author: me
Date: 10-11-04 12:15
It's not a subsidy. That's the point that y'all seem to be missing.
Unemployment insurance is not a subsidy, but insurance -- it comes out
of your paycheck when you work, and then if you lose your job, you get
payments out of the pool.
Complaining about unemployed people drawing "welfare" is like
complaining about people in car wrecks "getting their car fixed for
free." The question isn't one of welfare, but of whether or not a
contract instructor who is between jobs should be treated any
differently from a contract tree-trimmer, actor, mail sorter, mall
Santa, or any other seasonal worker who is between jobs.
What's the difference between a musician drawing unemployment between
gigs, and an adjunct instructor drawing unemployment between gigs?
Patty Murray
Author: Dana Zimbleman
Date: 10-11-04 13:29
Patty,
Haven't you and I sparred before in another discussion? Forgive me, but
at this point I'm a little unclear what I am supposed to be "rebuked"
for? (I've been "rebuked" for so many things here that I've lost
count.) You said I am "part of the problem." Which problem precisely?
Are you speaking of unemployment insurance and my views on it? If
you're going to level an accusation, at least be clear in what you're
talking about. Otherwise, I'll have to rebuke you for rebuking me.
As someone else rightly pointed out, this discussion isn't about me. I
have a full-time job, so unemployment compensation does not affect me.
I am, however, interested in seeing the working conditions of adjuncts
improve and am eager to read a post from someone who REALLY knows about
this issue.
Re: Stop the Whining
Author: Carl Nguyen, adjunct
Date: 10-11-04 18:03
You have the unmitigated gall to compare adjunct college professors
to sweatshop laborers? You, sir or madam, are severely out of touch.
You are just not thinking. And may I ask, since it was demanded of me,
wherefore your credentials to make such an idiotic comparison? But
please, I'm really not interested. As other posters have noted, this
colloquy is not about one person or two. I don't care what your
experiential warrant is to make your claims since they can so easily be
undermined with my response that you really don't exist, that you are
some ghost/prank writer. Short of demanding that you post your cv with
pictures and verifiable addresses, there is nothing to show that you
are NOT merely a field of indeterminate signifiers, and even then...
Re: A Different Tack
Author: Carl Nguyen, adjunct
Date: 10-11-04 18:28
"Moreover, I believe that if institutions cannot afford to pay
adjuncts on the same pay level as full-timers, then they should
eliminate part-time help completely and only offer courses taught by
full-timers. This would eliminate a lot of classes, but I also believe
we have an ethical obligation to compensate educators as though we
value education."
Ms Zimbleman. I can certainly agree with you on the above points. Here,
however, is where we break ranks (again): Institutions HAVE no ethics
regarding the hiring of cheap labor. They cleave to what's stated in
the contracts they offer. Adjuncts ought, also, to understand and
cleave to same. They cannot look to the good conscience of "the
institution" to take care of them in the long run, as much as the
reverse holds and is true--that they can look to the ready availability
of adjuncts to shave their budgets. That is the business of running a
university. At the administrative level, success is defined by the
bottom line always.
So many adjuncts are idealists, and this is not a bad thing, but they
are foolish to place that idealism upon, or expect any in return from,
a college or university. Such a sentiment is CLEARLY stated in ANY
adjunct's contract. I daresay, Ms Zimbleman, you can find that wording
easily enough in the contracts of your own beloved adjuncts.
I believe it is unconscionable for graduate programs to accept more
graduate students than they can financially support; I think it is
foolish for graduate students to enroll in programs without financial
support. Where institutions exploit the naivete of graduate students is
in accepting their money and then not being accountable in terms of
honesty--by NOT informing the grad student about market conditions, by
inculcating into them a sense of failure if they do not land jobs at
Research 1 universities, by creating an insidious hierarchy among them
between the funded and unfunded, by not preparing them for the rigors
of the job market, by offering teaching experience to only a few of
them, and on and on. They start and finish in poverty only to continue
to live in poverty as adjuncts. Ah, but here the romance of the schloar
gypsy ends. Bills are due, families must be raised, money must be made.
They are not, however, sweatshop workers. They can leave whenever they
desire and take their training in critical and analytical thinking,
their communication skills, their problem-solving skills to the open
market and make ten times that of an adjunct. But no, so many CHOOSE to
stay. Can you say that about a sweatshop laborer?
Re: A Different Tack
Author: Dana Zimbleman
Date: 10-12-04 12:08
Dear Mr. Nguyen:
Thank you for your response. I found your latest remarks quite eloquent
and persuasive. Surprisingly, we do not necessarily disagree on as many
issues as might be supposed. For instance, I am in full agreement with
you that adjuncts "cannot look to the good conscience of 'the
institution' to take care of them in the long run." However, where you
and I may disagree is in the approach they should take. You contend
they should leave academia and find a job that pays them a living wage,
benefits, etc. Certainly, I can see why many would choose this option.
However, I think adjuncts should also continue to work within the
system and push for reforms. As you correctly pointed out, many
graduate schools are doing a poor job preparing students for the
realities of the job market. You also effectively characterized the
situation when you wrote: "Where institutions exploit the naivete of
graduate students is in accepting their money and then not being
accountable in terms of honesty."
What happens to companies when they fail to provide services for which
they accept money? Consumers can turn to the Better Business Bureau and
the civil courts to assist them. If the fraud is widespread, consumers
can report abuses to the Federal Trade Commission. In short, we don't
tell consumers, "Well, you got conned, too bad for you." Likewise, I
think it's high time we hold university administrators accountable for
taking students' money in fields where teaching are research are just
about the only applications for the degrees, if these same institutions
aren't willing to hire. Aren't these institutions committing consumer
fraud? After all, on one hand, many institutions fight unionization of
graduate students because being a graduate teaching assistant is viewed
as an apprenticeship of sorts. Well, why do we need apprentices if
there are no jobs for these apprentices to fill?
I submit that it's time for adjuncts to draw attention to the
situation. An effectively waged public relations campaign might be in
order, where adjuncts put university administrators on the defensive
about rising tuition costs.
Why is tuition going up when the cost of labor is so cheap? Moreover,
why are administrative salaries going through the roof at the same
time? Perhaps if the higher ups were asked to explain their management
practices to the taxpayers, then more full-time jobs might magically
materialize. Also, accountability to the people in a particular service
area might be a way for adjuncts at the community-college level to draw
attention to their situation. I've found that people in the community
are often sympathetic to cc teachers and want them to earn a living
wage. Many would no doubt be shocked by what their children's English,
history, philosophy teachers earn. So public pressure, applied
effectively, might be brought to bear on community colleges.
I look forward to continuing the discussion.
Yet AnotherTack
Author: (Name removed at author's request)
Date: 10-12-04 13:09
I've re-read this interesting discussion, and have a few more
thoughts that might be of interest. I'll try to be more succinct - but
it's not a forte of mine, I'm afraid!
Some commentators have argued that adjuncts should be deemed
“independent contractors.” This contention is on strong legal grounds:
their employment is typically subject to at-will renewal or
termination, their benefits, if any are limited (and usually not
long-term), their institutional responsibilities are bounded, and so on.
What follows, however, is quite a different outcome than many here have
argued. It is probably valid to argue that adjuncts will not receive
the same “rights, protections, compensation, or privileges set aside
for their permanent counterparts.” But adjuncts - if characterized
correctly as independent contractors - do indeed have certain rights,
privileges and so on. (And, as an aside, this has nothing to do with
the funding of higher education - it is based in labor law.)
Independent contractors can, among other things, draw upon unemployment
insurance between employment stints. This “right” exists irrespective
of the fact that the independent contractor chose his/her employment
with full knowledge, before the fact, that the work would be
impermanent (even on an ongoing basis) in nature. UI does not, of
course, turn on the “unrealistic expectations” of its beneficiaries.
Another right that may well follow (I say “may” as it hasn't yet been
hashed out in the court in the academic context) is, I think, a more
helpful one in the long run: independent contractors have consistently
been held to own intellectual property (IP) rights in their creative
work. In other words, what if adjuncts are independent contractors -
why shouldn't they collect a salary per course, have the right to
collect UI, and claim IP rights in their courses and related course
materials?
Having done some research on this issue, I can say with some confidence
that this idea is facing a great deal of resistance from many
institutions. Now, I find this interesting: institutions want adjuncts
to teach, they don't particularly seem to want adjuncts to collect UI
(their policies don't universally promote it), but the minute adjuncts
start approaching independent contractor status, institutions flinch -
because, qua contractors, adjuncts would own their (potentially
marketable, and therefore potentially lucrative) courses and materials.
Interesting, isn't it?
The contradiction is, I think, revealing. Many academics seem to
deplore the idea that adjuncts have the “temerity” to ask to be
considered anything more than hired hands - that is, contractors who
teach on a per-course basis, with no long-term rights/privileges, but
also no recourse to tide-over measures such as UI. Yet many, many
academics (and administrators) are equally outraged or dismissive when
adjuncts seek to claim a key feature of their independent contractor
role - the right to IP ownership in their work.
My question to you all is this: if adjuncts qua independent contractors
can claim IP rights in their courses and coursework, and can eventually
monetize their courses, would you be fine with that outcome? What if
the consequences were detrimental to the academic world overall? (I
leave it to you to imagine some potential consequences.) And, in line
with this discussion, what if adjuncts relinquish their drive to gain
institutional support for their claims to UI? If that's too much of a
subsidy, why shouldn't we substitute rights in the courses they teach?
Or would that be an “entitlement,” too?
(Name removed at author's request)
P.S. Maria Eagle, thank you so much for your kind words. I am |