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Does the theory of "intelligent design" deserve more support within academe? Should scientists be speaking out against this movement?
The most recent responses appear first
"There are no known natural causes. There are only theoretically proposed causes..."
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- -- J.A. Putnam, author of newphysicstheory.com (posted 1/11, 11:45 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Prof. Lucas, I wonder whether you're willing to use "comparison to the environment" as the only criterion for telling whether something has been designed..."
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- -- Jim Ryan, philosophy prof., Huron College (posted 1/11, 11:00 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"It seems to me that Behe tied #1 and #2 together so tightly that he really needs both..."
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- -- James H. Swan, professor, public health, Wichita State University (posted 1/11, 11:00 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Melburn Thurman: I realize that your comments went well beyond the monolith case; I was merely making the point that IC is not the only way to recognize design..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. professor of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/11, 11:00 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Professor Moody: Thank you for your answer..."
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- -- Melburn D. Thurman (posted 1/10, 3:35 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Melburn Thurman asks..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. professor of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/10, 3:15 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Professor Lucas: I made my submission on archaeology before seeing yours..."
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- -- Melburn D. Thurman (posted 1/10, 3:00 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Unfortunately, Behe is to blame for the definitional confusion pointed out in post #268..."
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- -- Nic Tamzek, Grad student, University of California (posted 1/10, 2:40 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"It is not quite the case that the field of archaeology is based upon Intelligent Design conceptualizations, as Mr. Hirsch states..."
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- -- Melburn D. Thurman (posted 1/10, 2:35 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Roland Hirsch concludes his note with..."
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- -- Ron Okimoto, asst. prof., University of Arkansas (posted 1/10, 12:55 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"No theologians seem to have contributed to this lengthy colloquy. That's sort of curious..."
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- -- Frank Williams, philosophy prof., E. Ky. Univ. (posted 1/10, 12:55 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"I was unaware of Behe's statement about the lever and fulcrum..."
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- -- James H. Swan, professor, public health, Wichita State University (posted 1/10, 11:45 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"We are urged to consider Behe's real scientific contributions..."
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- -- Adrian Melott, professor of physics and astronomy, University of Kansas (posted 1/10, 11:20 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Since my posts are invoked by Jim Ryan, I wish to state my own position..."
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- -- James H. Swan, professor, public health, Wichita State University (posted 1/10, 11:20 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"There are two issues I wish to address..."
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- -- Paul Lucas, Associate Professor, Dept. of Orthopaedic Surgery, New York Medical College (posted 1/10, 10:20 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"In my opinion, Intelligent Design should be considered under the same criteria as any scientific theory..."
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- -- Paul Lucas, Associate Professor, New York Medical College (posted 1/10, 10:15 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"There are many comments here that go beyond a discussion of ideas..."
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- -- Roland F. Hirsch, Program Manager, Structural Biology, Department of Energy (posted 1/10, 10:15 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"I do not think that the definition of IC in Prof. Swan's sense..."
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- -- Ron Okimoto, Asst. Prof., University of Arkansas (posted 1/10, 10:05 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"To Professor Melott: My remark which you quoted was in reference to the Max-Spetner dialogue..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. professor of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/10, 10:00 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"AAACK! Prof Ryan, are we now to have a new definition of IC?..."
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- -- Frank Schmidt, Prof of Biochem, Univ. of Missouri-Columbia (posted 1/10, 9:55 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Moody writes..."
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- -- Nic Tamzek, grad student, University of California (posted 1/9, 4:35 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Prof. Okimoto, I think we agree..."
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- -- Jim Ryan, philosophy prof., Huron College (posted 1/9, 4:35 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Moody errs when he states that IC implies ID..."
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- -- Frank Schmidt, Prof. of Biochemistry, Univ. of Missouri-Columbia (posted 1/9, 4:35 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Regarding scientific plausibility, Todd Moody says..."
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- -- Adrian Melott, professor of physics and astronomy, University of Kansas (posted 1/9, 4:35 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Professor Swan writes..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. professor of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/9, 4:35 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"I am not relying upon old physics..."
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- -- James A. Putnam, author of newphysicstheory.com (posted 1/9, 4:30 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"I certainly owe a reply to Nic Tamzek's question..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. professor of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/9, 2:30 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Todd Moody compares ID to SETI..."
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- -- James H. Swan, professor, public health, Wichita State University (posted 1/9, 2:15 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Jim Ryan provides four criteria for elucidating design..."
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- -- Ron Okimoto, asst. prof. (posted 1/9, 2:15 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Behe's definition of irreducible complexity..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. prof. of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/9, 12:45 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Finally, I get to Todd Moody's ID-lite proposal..."
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- -- Nic Tamzek, Grad student, University of California (posted 1/9, 10:30 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Todd Moody (post #259), writes, 'I have the impression that this colloquy is winding down'..."
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- -- Nic Tamzek, Grad student, University of California (posted 1/9, 10:20 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Regarding the definitions of 'specified complexity' and 'irreducible complexity'..."
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- -- Nic Tamzek, Grad student, University of California (posted 1/9, 10:15 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"I would like to thank Todd Moody for his patience in the midst of a large number of ID skeptics..."
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- -- Nic Tamzek, Grad student, University of California (posted 1/9, 10:10 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"I welcome the recent comment (258.htm) which has asked if, or possibly suggested that, references made by me attempt to discredit a particular contributor..."
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- -- Melburn D. Thurman (posted 1/9, 10:00 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Prof. Okimoto's V6: Can we establish shared criteria of evidence for design?..."
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- -- Jim Ryan, philosophy prof., Huron College (posted 1/9, 10:00 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"This seems to have trickled down to nearly nothing, so I'll probably trickle out too, but I'll rebut one more time..."
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- -- Ron Okimoto, Asst. Prof., University of Arkansas (posted 1/9, 9:55 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Todd Moody, responding to Okimoto's objections, writes: 'This begs the question, of course'..."
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- -- James H. Swan, Professor of Public Health, WSU (posted 1/9, 9:50 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"I see that Todd Moody wants to declare victory and go home: 'I think that Behe's irreducible complexity is a perfectly serviceable criterion'..."
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- -- James H. Swan, Professor, Public Health, WSU (posted 1/9, 9:45 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Professor Okimoto replies to my claim that although intelligent agents produce things other than machines, machines are paradigmatic, with the assertion that 'This is sophistry' ..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. professor of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/8, 5:05 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Moody doesn't seem to understand the meaning of testable hypothesis in science..."
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- -- Ron Okimoto, asst. prof., University of Arkansas (posted 1/8, 1:35 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"I have the impression that this colloquy is winding down; we are all beginning to repeat ourselves..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. professor of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/8, 11:00 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"To Melburn Thurman: I don't know why your post was addressed to me. Are you implying that I am one of those exhibiting "religious fervor?"..."
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- -- Richard Wein, freelance technical translator (posted 1/8, 10:25 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Janice Reeb resents being forced into an either-or choice..."
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- -- Adrian Melott, professor of physics and astronomy, University of Kansas (posted 1/7, 5:25 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Having been chafed since my 8th grade science class by the 'requirement' that I declare either as a creationist or an evolutionist..."
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- -- Janice Reeb, human resources coordinator at ASU (posted 1/7, 4:25 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"James Putnam (newphysicstheory) needs to reconsider his claims based on old physics..."
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- -- Adrian Melott, professor of physics and astronomy, University of Kansas (posted 1/7, 3:40 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"To: Emilio Carmona..."
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- -- Tom Baillieul, geologist (posted 1/7, 2:45 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Mr. Wein: I note only that I am quite aware that Mr. Dembski has referred to you as one of two who, in his terms, as I recall, has "stalked" him on the Net..."
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- -- Melburn D. Thurman (posted 1/7, 2:45 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Burt Humburg writes..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. professor of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/7, 2:45 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Publius (214.htm), whose pseudonym can be duplicated amongst those of contributors to the great civic debates..."
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- -- Melburn D. Thurman (posted 1/7, 11:50 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"I should try to clarify my response to Moody's questions about design..."
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- -- Ron Okimoto, Asst. Prof., University of Arkansas (posted 1/7, 11:40 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Claims about the probability of an explanation, in the statistical sense, are Bayesian claims..."
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- -- Richard Wein, freelance technical translator (posted 1/7, 11:35 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Todd Moody, objecting to the claim that Intelligent Design Creationists are postulating a non-natural entity as the agency whodunit..."
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- -- Burt C. Humburg, 4th Year Medical Student (posted 1/7, 10:35 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Todd Moody, in response to another poster, quoted my previous post on the incompetence or sadism of the Intelligent Design Creationist's designer..."
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- -- Burt C. Humburg, 4th Year Medical Student (posted 1/7, 10:35 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"The probability of life occurring by known scientific means is zero. In so far as science is concerned, the universe was formed from dumb, mechanical particles..."
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- -- James A. Putnam, author of newphysicstheory.com (posted 1/7, 10:30 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"I'd like to first clarify Todd Moody's claim of ad hominem considerations concerning ID's supernatural claims..."
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- -- Ron Okimoto, Asst. Prof., Univ. of Arkansas (posted 1/7, 10:30 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Writing as an archaeologist, I would like to point out that..."
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- -- Gary Hurd, Director of Education, OCNHM (posted 1/7, 10:25 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Professor Moody (224.htm) writes about a conjectural black monolith..."
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- -- James H. Swan, Professor, Public Health, Wichita State University (posted 1/7, 10:20 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"With regard to Todd Moody's comment (224.htm) about peer-reviewed books..."
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- -- Jeffrey Shallit, Professor, University of Waterloo (posted 1/4, 4:05 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Melburn Thurman quotes Dembski: 'Other institutions and individuals with which I've had direct contact and who have contributed significantly'..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. professor of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/4, 2:30 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Professor Swan responds to the hypothetical '2001' lunar monolith case as follows..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. professor of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/4, 2:30 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Touché, professor Schmidt. If an instructor of a university-level science course reserves some time in his last lecture..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. professor of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/4, 1:50 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Having done a goodly number of interviews with scholars, I have become aware that to ask scholars questions does not necessarily mean that the answers they give to these will be very informative..."
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- -- Melburn D. Thurman (posted 1/4, 1:45 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Professor Okimoto writes, "ID is not about inferring design this is apparent by reading just about anything except the blatant misrepresentations of the ID proponents'..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. professor of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/4, 1:40 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Melburn Thurman, if you would like to know my spiritual autobiography, I suggest you ask me directly, rather than resorting to this detective work..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. professor of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/4, 11:50 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Regarding Prof. Moody's declaration: 'In fact, if ID were used as a vehicle to introduce the supernatural into a biology class, I would be the first one sending a check to the ACLU'..."
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- -- frank schmidt, Prof of Biochemistry, University of Missouri-Columbia (posted 1/4, 11:45 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"To Tom Baillieul: Could you give me the reference of the article on "improved human beings" in Scientific American?..."
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- -- Emilio Carmona, Molecular biologist, Universidad de Sevilla (Spain) (posted 1/4, 10:35 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Todd Moody responds to Adrian: 'Is it your contention that Cambridge University Press does not subject manuscripts to peer review?'..."
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- -- James H. Swan, Professor, Public Health, Wichita State University (posted 1/4, 10:35 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Professor Okimoto argues that ID is not really about what I say it is about..."
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- -- Todd Moody, assoc. professor of philosophy, St. Joseph's University (posted 1/4, 10:30 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Todd Moody [reply to Thurman] 12/22/2001, 7:45 p.m.: 'I am not, nor have ever been a Catholic...I am an agnostic'..."
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- -- Melburn D. Thurman (posted 1/4, 10:30 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"I suppose I can explain to Moody about books in science. At least in the mathmatical and
physical sciences, they don't have much of a role..."
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- -- Adrian Melott, Professor of Physics and Astronomy, University of Kansas (posted 1/4, 10:25 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"I forgot to address Todd Moody's point about bicycles in my last set of comments..."
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- -- Ron Okimoto, Asst. Prof., University of Arkansas (posted 1/4, 10:20 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Todd Moody can't seem to get his facts straight. If he really believes his following statement he must be living on another planet..."
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- -- Ron Okimoto, Asst. Prof., University of Arkansas (posted 1/4, 10:20 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"I would argue that should such a conjectural object be found, on the Moon or elsewhere, then the debate and analysis should start..."
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- -- James H. Swan, Professor, Public Health, Wichita State University (posted 1/4, 10:15 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Todd Moody (12/22/2002, 7:45 P.M.): 'I have no connection with the Discovery Institute'..."
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- -- Melburn D. Thurman (posted 1/4, 10:10 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
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