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Should private colleges deny recognition to campus religious groups that require their leaders to believe that homosexuality is a sin? You may offer your comments, and you may read a transcript of a live discussion, held Thursday, May 11, about a Christian-student group at Tufts University that faces a loss of recognition over the issue.
The most recent responses appear first
"An anonymous philosophy student writes: 'Christians have had a stranglehold on Western Civilization for 2,000 years' ..."
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- -- Bob Wilson, Ph.D. candidate, City University of New York, Graduate Center (posted 6/19, 4:45 p.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Would a campus gay group allow an ex-gay to hold a leadership position?..."
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- -- Regina Griggs, National Dir., Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays -- PFOX (posted 6/19, 11:08 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"Thank you for your excellent coverage of the unfortunate conflicts at Middlebury and Tufts between gay Christians and the Christian fellowships,..."
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- -- Albert R. Leatherman, Williams College (posted 6/13, 4:25 p.m., E.D.T.)
"While I am forced to concur with the right of any private college to uphold its own ethical and moral standards,..."
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- -- Anonymous, Philosophy student (posted 6/6, 10:15 a.m., U.S. Eastern time)
"To mask the denial of human rights the rights to life itself, to full citizenship--to religious conservatives behind a mask of freedom of sexual licentious..."
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- -- Lisa Larkins, Towson State University, Alumni (posted 5/19, 11 a.m., E.D.T.)
"To mask the denial of human rights --the rights to life itself, to full citizenship--to gays and lesbians behind a mask..."
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- -- Yolanda C. Padilla, Associate Professor, University of Texas at Austin (posted 5/18, 1:30 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Since this is an academic colloquy, I hope it will not be thought indecorous to suggest this discussion has become oversimplified and more rancorous than necessary..."
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- -- Edward Manier, Chair, Student Life Committee, Faculty Senate, University of Notre Dame (posted 5/16, 4:10 p.m., E.D.T.)
"In reply to Simmons's comment of yesterday, regarding the 'double standard': I think that's a little misleading..."
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- -- Laurie Hurshman, Williams College (posted 5/16, 11 a.m., E.D.T.)
"...No one, absolutely no one... not a professor, not a lawyer, not a gay rights group, not a student government association, not our Congress or even our Supreme Court has the right to dictate to any religious group..."
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- -- Lisa Larkins, Towson State University, Alumni (posted 5/16, 10:40 a.m., E.D.T.)
"In last Thursday's live session with David French, the lawyer for the Tufts Christian Fellowship answered the following question from me:..."
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- -- Todd Martinez-Padilla Simmons, U of S. Florida (posted 5/15, 9:55 a.m., E.D.T.)
"Thanks for the opportunity to comment on the issue..."
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- -- Mike Cadicamo, Social Sciences Teacher, Alpaugh High School (posted 5/15, 9:33 a.m., E.D.T.)
"Private institutions and organizations have a right to their beliefs and to limit their memberships according to those beliefs..."
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- -- M.S. Dawson, assoc. prof Jewish College at Washington U. (posted 5/15, 9:18 a.m., E.D.T.)
"The University of Notre Dame recently placed its Women's Resource Center on probation for having 'value neutral' materials on abortion..."
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- -- Edward Manier, Professor, Chair Faculty Senate Committee, University of Notre Dame on Student Life (posted 5/12, 3:10 p.m., E.D.T.)
"One of the issues which many seem to be confused about concerns the means by which the TCF, and other student groups at Tufts, selects leaders..."
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- -- Douglas Smith, Educator (posted 5/12, 1:55 p.m., E.D.T.)
"It seems that an easy solution to this problem in a democracy is to let any student join any club he or she desires to join..."
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- -- Jay Zarowitz, Social Sciences Department Chair-Muskegon Community College (posted 5/11, 7:30 p.m., E.D.T.)
"From her comments it seems Catalano is leading people to believe that homosexuality is not expressly rebuked by the bible..."
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- -- Rebecca Oka, AM-IVCF (posted 5/11, 6:30 p.m., E.D.T.)
"I'm a recent graduate of Williams College, now
working on campus, and I am still involved in the Christian fellowship here..."
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- -- Laurie Hurshman, Williams College (posted 5/11, 5:15 p.m., E.D.T.)
"The U.S. Constitution guarantees my right to the free exercise of my religion..."
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- -- Ed Snow, ISI (posted 5/11, 4:45 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Although religious groups should have the right to believe whatever they choose on the issue of homosexuality,..."
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- -- Paul Walley, Campus Pastor - State Univ. College at New Paltz, New York (posted 5/11, 4:35 p.m., E.D.T.)
"This debate has seemed to center on a concept of the desire for equal treatment and respect..."
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- -- Robert Bauer, Analyst, Merced College (posted 5/11, 4:30 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Freedom of religion is a right! You may not always believe what other religions believe,..."
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- -- Arp, UCSD, student (posted 5/11, 4 p.m., E.D.T.)
"I have a great deal of respect for Hasidic Jews. This respect comes not from having followed that faith, but from an admiration for their following the Holiness Code in Leviticus to the letter..."
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- -- Timothy Brown, doctoral candidate, University of Northern Colorado, United Church of Christ Coalition for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Concerns (posted 5/11, 3:05 p.m., E.D.T.)
"This is an issue faced by our campus, the University of Southern California, as well..."
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- -- Rabbi Susan Laemmle, Ph.D., Dean of Religious Life, University of Southern California (posted 5/11, 2:25 p.m., E.D.T.)
"From what I've read in the paper, the decision to take the money away from the Tufts Christian Fellowship..."
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- -- Susan G., Educator (posted 5/11, 2:20 p.m., E.D.T.)
"The question of if and when free exercise claims trump other societal interests,..."
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- -- Charles Haynes, Senior Scholar, First Amendment Center (posted 5/11, 2:15 p.m., E.D.T.)
"I came to Tufts in 1986 as what some people term an agnostic..."
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- -- Hal Ambuter, 1986 Tufts Graduate (posted 5/11, 2:12 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Does funding of student 'faith' groups amount to the promotion of a particular faith?..."
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- -- David Moore, President, National Campus Ministry Association; Protestant Campus Pastor, University at Albany (posted 5/11, 2:03 p.m., E.D.T.)
"This is my second submission on this topic because I find the comments of various Christian 'victims' on this matter almost comical..."
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- -- Todd Martinez-Padilla Simmons, Director of Media Relations, U. of S. Florida (posted 5/11, 1:50 p.m., E.D.T.)
"From a historical Biblical standpoint it can be argued that homosexuality is a sin..."
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- -- Rob Bernard, Ed.D. candidate, University of Wyoming (posted 5/11, 10:05 a.m., E.D.T.)
"Most campuses allow politically correct groups who have preconceived ideological beliefs..."
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- -- Ramdas Lamb, Associate Professor of Religion, University of Hawaii (posted 5/11, 9:53 a.m., E.D.T.)
"The issue is not religion, it is regulation..."
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- -- Karl Swenson, Engineer, Microsoft (posted 5/11, 9:50 a.m., E.D.T.)
"At the center of our cherished rights of freedom of expression and freedom of religion is the right of each individual to be grievously wrong..."
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- -- H. James Harkins, Graduate student, Duke University (posted 5/11, 9:40 a.m., E.D.T.)
"Since religions are based on beliefs, every religious group is based on a certain set of beliefs..."
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- -- Subi Subhan, Doctoral Student, Northern Arizona University (posted 5/10, 4:40 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Ms. Catalano should be allowed to run for office..."
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- -- Khal Spencer, Assoc. Specialist, University of Hawaii (posted 5/10, 3:50 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Should private colleges deny recognition to campus religious groups that bar gay students?..."
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- -- Mrs. Dorothy C. Smith (posted 5/10, 3:05 p.m., E.D.T.)
"If a student group wishes to be officially recognized and receive any accompanying privileges..."
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- -- Lin Larson, associate editor, University of Iowa (posted 5/10, 3 p.m., E.D.T.)
"There is a trend of encouraging tolerance for differences between people and opinions except Christianity..."
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- -- Jennifer Hsu, Director of International Student Services, Hope International University (posted 5/10, 2:25 p.m., E.D.T.)
"We must beware simplistic distinctions between 'religious' groups and other groups..."
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- -- Daniel Dunnagan (posted 5/10, 2:20 p.m., E.D.T.)
"The issue is crystal clear. Groups have a clear right to define who they are and what they stand for..."
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- -- Richard Sherlock, professor of philosophy, Utah State University (posted 5/10, 2:15 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Our Constitution allows free speech, but not discrimination..."
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- -- Jonathan Anderson, Assistant Professor of Public Administration, University of Alaska SE (posted 5/10, 2:10 p.m., E.D.T.)
"I do not believe that we as educators should be involved in examining the religious beliefs of our students..."
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- -- Reen Carter, Resident Fellow in Student Affairs, Harvard Medical School (posted 5/10, 12:15 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Christianity may be all inclusive, but this is hardly a compelling reason to allow a sexually active homosexual..."
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- -- Anonymous, Student, Loyola Marymount University (posted 5/10, 11:55 a.m., E.D.T.)
"The only grounds upon which a private institution could deny recognition to any group..."
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- -- M. Robert Mulholland, Vice President and CAO, Asbury Theological Seminary (posted 5/10, 11:50 a.m., E.D.T.)
"It seems to be rather fuzzy thinking to rant on and on about various groups' abilities to define themselves in this situation..."
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- -- E. Joe Johnson, Jr., Teacher, Vanguard HS, Ocala, FL (posted 5/10, 11:35 a.m., E.D.T.)
"Starting with the premise that all campus organizations have democratic processes for filling leadership positions, this should be a non-issue..."
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- -- Pete Petersen, private citizen (posted 5/10, 10 a.m., E.D.T.)
"Although I believe firmly that God gave us all the right to choose our lifestyle, regardless of whether or not he says it is wrong,..."
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- -- Brett Chapman, Age 15, Auckland, New Zealand (posted 5/10, 9:50 a.m., E.D.T.)
"While several intelligent people have hit on the key aspects of this case, I still find it amusing that..."
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- -- A Tufts Student, Tufts University (posted 5/10, 8:30 a.m., E.D.T.)
"Any form of discrimination should be frowned upon. The Christian group should welcome all people..."
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- -- Anonymous, student (posted 5/10, 8:30 a.m., E.D.T.)
"Campus religious groups have a legal right to meet, organize, uphold and express commonly held views as any campus group..."
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- -- Olivia Hanson, Founder, Faith and Freedom (posted 5/10, 8:30 a.m., E.D.T.)
"A group is exclusionary by definition. Otherwise, it would be an 'all'..."
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- -- Jim Schultz, IS/IT Manager Utah State University (posted 5/9, 6:00 p.m., E.D.T.)
"It would seem to be fairly well settled now with the recent Supreme Court decision in Southworth..."
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- -- Dr. T. C. Mattocks, Assoc. Prof. Education Leadership, Idaho State University (posted 5/9, 5:12 p.m., E.D.T.)
"In the interest of brevity, I cast my lot with Graham Michaels..."
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- -- Dave Austin, Aircraft Design Specialist, Retired, NCSU (posted 5/9, 5:05 p.m., E.D.T.)
"The Intervarsity Christian organization and other religious groups can hold whatever views they like..."
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- -- Greg Czarnecki, Staff Assistant, Fletcher School of Law & Diplomacy, Tufts University (posted 5/9, 3:55 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Student organizations should have a mission and belief system..."
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- -- Michael Cronk, Graduate Student in Student Affairs, Plattsburgh State University of New York (posted 5/9, 3:12 p.m., E.D.T.)
"A religious group that denies someone the opportunity to hold office or membership due to sexual orientation does not prevent that person from practicing, or even advocating, homosexuality..."
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- -- Floyd Bowles, Interim Department Chair, Midlands Technical College, Columbia, South Carolina (posted 5/9, 2:45 p.m., E.D.T.)
"I wonder about the intellectual honesty of people who promote inclusion by excluding groups..."
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- -- Dr. Steven A. Long, Associate Dean, Florida Christian College (posted 5/9, 2:45 p.m., E.D.T.)
"While I support individual's rights to live however they want,..."
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- -- Dr. Kim Harris, Asst. Professor, Arizona School of Health Sciences (posted 5/9, 2:19 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Contrary to most religious beliefs, I strongly believe that homosexuality is not a chosen 'life-style.'..."
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- -- Michael McPherson, Dean of Instruction, Mt. Sierra College, Monrovia, CA (posted 5/9, 2:10 p.m., E.D.T.)
"The article states a religious objection because homosexuality is a sin..."
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- -- Robert Trombley, Doctoral Student, University of Michigan (posted 5/9, 2:04 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Colleges (private or public) should not deny recognition to campus religious groups that bar gay students from holding leadership positions..."
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- -- Beverly Reihl, Admin. Assistant - University of Utah (posted 5/9, 12:40 p.m., E.D.T.)
"It is imperative that student organizations recognized by university administration and funded by student fees be open to all students on campus..."
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- -- James W. Hall, Asst. Dean, Univ IL College of Medicine at Urbana (posted 5/9, 12:35 p.m., E.D.T.)
"I make a distinction between homosexuality and homosexual practice..."
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- -- Stephen J. Denig, Assistant Professor, Saint John's University (posted 5/9, 12:27 p.m., E.D.T.)
"The Bible is a document that has stood the test of time,..."
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- -- Dr. Gloria J. Gale, Director, Library Media Services (posted 5/9, 12:24 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Religious groups that teach bigotry through exclusion or other means of discrimination should not be recognized as a bonafide organization on any campus..."
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- -- Beth J. Bricker, Associate Director of Athletics, University of Puget Sound (posted 5/9, 12:10 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Should private colleges deny recognition to campus religious groups that bar gay students? Absolutely, yes..."
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- -- Yolanda C. Padilla, Associate Professor, Univ of Texas, Austin (posted 5/9, 12:04 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Any institution that allows a campus organization to deny membership or leadership positions to gay students should be denied Federal Education funds..."
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- -- Dr. T, Graduate, Morgan State University (posted 5/9, 10:55 a.m., E.D.T.)
"It appears to me that every group on the face of the earth has the right to think and believe and choose - except Christians..."
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- -- Carol Davis, Admin. Assoc., University of Arizona (posted 5/9, 10:50 a.m., E.D.T.)
"Bear in mind that most of these organizations don't bar gay students..."
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- -- Richard Miller, Beloit College (posted 5/9, 10:07 a.m., E.D.T.)
"Whether one agrees with the doctrine of the religious group or not, that belief MUST be respected..."
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- -- Eduardo Hondal, Florida International University (posted 5/9, 10:05 a.m., E.D.T.)
"The Tufts Christian Fellowship is clearly at fault in this situation,..."
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- -- Todd Martinez-Padilla Simmons, Media Relations Director, University of South Florida (posted 5/9, 10 a.m., E.D.T.)
"Randall L. McCready writes: 'Would a Christian be allowed to serve on the leadership of a gay/lesbian organization if he/she disagreed with a foundational belief of the group that one is born gay/lesbian?'..."
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- -- Amy Goodloe, Lecturer, University of Colorado, Boulder (posted 5/9, 9:54 a.m., E.D.T.)
"Of particular interest to me in this debate is the right of students to hold their leaders to different standards than members..."
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- -- Liam Corley, English Grad Student, UC Riverside (posted 5/9, 9:40 a.m., E.D.T.)
"Should religious groups be allowed to deny membership to Gays and Lesbians? The answer is a qualified 'yes'..."
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- -- Dr. Stan Cram, Dean of Student Affairs, Mount Senario College (posted 5/8, 6:15 p.m., E.D.T.)
"There are scientists on college campuses who would like to prevent recognition of any group that promotes beliefs that aren't scientific..."
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- -- Patricia Schwarz, Superstringtheory.com (posted 5/8, 3:42 p.m., E.D.T.)
"This is not a religious issue, and it's not a gay issue either;..."
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- -- T. Allen Culpepper, Visiting Assistant Professor of English, Rogers State University (posted 5/8, 3:27 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Student groups provide many functions. Among other things, they increase the range of viewpoints advocated and the quality of advocacy..."
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- -- Jeffery E. Olson, Associate Professor of Education (posted 5/8, 3:20 p.m., E.D.T.)
"I am a fees-paying student at a state university. I hold certain very strong beliefs and values..."
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- -- Anonymous (posted 5/8, 3:15 p.m., E.D.T.)
"It would violate the group's right to freedom of religion. The same laws that are geared to protect our freedoms as homosexuals also guarantee the right of freedom of religion..."
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- -- Darrin, Columbia College (Chicago) - Student (posted 5/8, 3:08 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Would a Christian be allowed to serve on the leadership of a gay/lesbian organization if he/she disagreed with a foundational belief of the group..."
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- -- Randall L. McCready, Financial Aid Systems Mgr., Marquette University (posted 5/8, 3:04 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Christian groups have a right to determine the Christian doctrine which defines them..."
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- -- Todd Lake, Dean of Chapel, Baylor University (posted 5/8, 3 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Christian organizations should be able to ban 'practicing' gays and lesbians..."
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- -- Thomas Hughes, an officer at the United States Military Academy (posted 5/8, 2:50 p.m., E.D.T.)
"This is an issue about a religious group enforcing its interpretation of scripture..."
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- -- Jeremy Finney, student - Kansas State University (posted 5/8, 2:47 p.m., E.D.T.)
"This is of course a difficult issue. But it comes down to this-- what sort of community does a college want to foster?..."
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- -- Mark Anthony Masterson, University of Southern California (posted 5/8, 2:40 p.m., E.D.T.)
"I think such a ban is outrageous. To make decisions or to formulate opinions about others based NOT on their individual merit,..."
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- -- William Saunders, Alumnus-Univ. of D.C. (posted 5/8, 1 p.m., E.D.T.)
"Discrimination is wrong. It is particularly invidious to see it perpetrated on a college or university campus..."
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- -- Peter Storandt, Director of Admissions, Oklahoma City University School of Law (posted 5/8, 12:40 p.m., E.D.T.)
"The galloping egalitarianism of left-wing ideologues would have everyone up to their necks in damn near every counter-cultural or alternative lifestyle to come down the pike..."
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- -- Graham Michaels, University of South Alabama (posted 5/8, 11:15 a.m., E.D.T.)
"If a private institution is committed to inclusivity of ALL students, then of course a religious organization should be banned for not admitting GLBT students..."
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- -- Monroe France, Assistant Hall Director, The Ohio State University (posted 5/8, 11:08 a.m., E.D.T.)
"Does anyone contend that a private university could not refuse to sponsor (by use of the university's name or its money) an organization that excluded women or minorities?..."
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- -- Douglas Blews, Attorney in Atlanta, (Duke Law, 1998) (posted 5/8, 10:25 a.m., E.D.T.)
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