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14 Responses to Will Lecture Videos on YouTube Appeal to a Popular Audience?
Republic of Math - September 13, 2011 at 7:33 am
Mathematica gives E^-x^3-(2 Gamma[1/3,x^3])/(3 (x^3)^(1/3))+(2 (x^3)^(2/3) Gamma[1/3,x^3])/(3 x^3) for the integral of exp(-t^3) but does simply, when asked, to exp(-x^3).
Robert Talbert - September 13, 2011 at 8:20 am
Thanks – I asked my Twitter followers for some Mathematica-related results but they all came back hypergeometric. Maybe they weren’t all trying a forced simplification.
Kai Brunkalla - September 13, 2011 at 11:11 am
After reading the blog I tried the Scientific WorkPlace 5.5 from MacKichan Software and it came back with the proper derivative exp(-x^3).
bettymay - September 13, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Amazingly, Mathcad gives the correct answer for the e^(-t^3) integral.
abdi_darai - September 13, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Tried these and variuos similar problems in CAS DERIVE 5, and all results followed the application of FTC as desired! We have been using DERIVE in our calculus lab for about 20 years.
sgtrock - September 13, 2011 at 5:14 pm
From Maple 15 command line interface:
> diff( int(-t^3,t=0..x), x );
3
-x
The FTC seems to work OK here. When we separate the integration and differentiation operations is where we get into trouble.
Robert Talbert - September 13, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Did you mean exp(-t^3) instead of just -t^3? For simple integrands, Maple is probably just calculating the antiderivative when the INT command is called.
Blair Madore - September 13, 2011 at 11:28 pm
There are actually a lot of questions and issues raised here.
Why didn’t Maple just apply the FTC?
The evaluation rules for Maple mean that Maple is computing an antiderivative before it
differentiates. To avoid this, try the command Int instead of int.
Int does not evaluate so Maple is not trying to anti-differentiate. When you try to
differentiate something like
Int(exp(-t^3),t=0..x) then Maple applies the FTC correctly. Try it!
Why does Maple use hypergeometric functions? One reason is because not all functions have antiderivatives in elementary terms – involving just exp, log, trig and rational polynomials. So you have to use special functions and as my friend Tony Scott who developed many of these techniques described it to me – they allow one to find antiderivatives for almsot all the functions that typically show up in physics – even high level physics. Why can’t one easily simplify the result with hypergeometric functions to the answer expected from the FTC? Simplification is a really hard problem that has no precise solution.How do you define what is simple? A related hard problem is recognizing equivalent expressions. There are no known good solutions for these problems. Maybe your calculus students need a thesis problem for their Ph.D. in computer science? Why doesn’t Maple change it’s evaluation rules to use the FTC when possible? Maple (like most other math software) is a multi-purpose tool that can’t
possibly anticipate the circumstances from which you ask this question.
Some users actually wanted that hypergeometric function as an answer.Couldn’t there be a Maple for Calculus that avoids higher functions and just responds in a way that is appropriate for a calculus student? Many people have tried to build math software (or alter existing software) to do just that. Maple
has tools to do that, too. Other software have done this and Derive is exceptionally good at it. But fundamentally, it is an IMPOSSIBLE task!
If you know algebra, you know that you can’t work with polynomials over the
integers without complex numbers lurking somewhere in the background. Ask
the right Calculus style question and it becomes impossible to answer it
without introducing complex numbers and maybe hypergeometric functions and
a hell of a lot more math, too.
Many people who know about this use it as a teaching opportunity. It should whet the student’s
appetite to learn more.
Robert Talbert - September 14, 2011 at 6:50 am
Thanks for that great comment, Blair. Is there a good resource for people (like my students, or like myself with a background in math but not in computer algebra) to learn more?
martin_m - September 14, 2011 at 7:04 am
Try the following in WolframAlpha
derivative with respect to x of integral of exp(sin(t)) from t=0 to t=x
Now try this in Maple
diff(int(exp(sin(t)), t = 0 .. x), x)
Suddenly Maple knows the FTC while WolframAlpha has forgotten about it.
I think Blair’s comment is up to the point. Symbolic computation is extremely complicated, and finding examples that do not work as expected in a given software is not uncommon, but in general Maple, Sage, Mathematica and WolframAlpha are excelent tools.
One thing I do not like in WolframAlpha is that you cannot restrict your functions to the reals easily (try plotting log(x) and explain to your calculus students the result)
bpconrad - September 14, 2011 at 9:20 am
You are using Maple for to do something it is not designed for. A CAS punishes people who ask it questions like this, and they deserve it. Perhaps the curious will develop an interest in special functions… By the way, the derivative is exp(-x^3), not exp(-t^3). I make that mistake too now and then, but I still mark it wrong when I see it.
philosophy - September 14, 2011 at 4:53 pm
It’s nice to see a Chronicle blog on something other than students’ writing deficiencies!
mschlat - September 15, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Re:incorporating W|A into more classes, I’ve tried it in precalculus and calculus classes and gotten good results. It helps that WolframAlpha is typically much more forgiving of syntax issues than Maple (the CAS we have on campus). And I like the fact that you can get WolframAlpha on mobile — I’m guessing that pretty soon we’ll have CAS on our smaller smart devices (as opposed to stationary PCs).
The problem I have is use on exams. Students need access to the web for W|A, but I don’t want them to have access to the whole web during exams. Controlling that can be done (I use Synchroneyes), but isn’t trivial.
acer_r - October 3, 2011 at 9:31 pm
You state that computer algebra systems can only do math computationally, and not conceptually. That is not a very good characterization. Maple will successfully inform us that the derivative w.r.t. `x` of the inert integral Int(exp(-t^3),t=0..x) is exp(-x^3) and this is more conceptual Calculus than it is computational. Note the use of the capital “I” in `Int`, for the inert form. Indeed, for an unknown integrand g(t) Maple can also succeed here. But you did not ask for the inert integral. Rather, you have used the active form (with lowercase `int`) which does a computation of the integral before passing off to the `diff` command. In other words, it is you the user who has forced the more “computational” behaviour by Maple. It is partly on account of such distinctions that Maple uses active forms like `int`, `diff`, `sum`, and `product` while also having inert forms such as `Int`, `Diff`, `Sum`, etc.
You stated that the correct result for the second problem was exp(-t^3), but actually the correct result is exp(-x^3).
On the topic of conceptual aspects of calculus, the reverse question is also interesting. For an unknown `g` Maple will return unevaluated for the command int(diff(g(t),t),t=0..x), but will return g(x)-g(0) for the more specific command int(diff(g(t),t),t=0..x, continuous).
Maple’s knowledge of abstract Calculus is certainly not perfect! Analysis and Calculus are very hard things to teach a CAS to do well.
ps. Here is a link to a webinar on introductory symbolic integration in Maple. (The presenter starts slowly, but it becomes more confident and interesting. It begins with indefinite integration, and then switches over about halfway to discuss definite integration.) http://www.mapleprimes.com/posts/97477-Webinar-On-Symbolic-Integration