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February 14, 2011, 3:27 pm

Courtesy of Christopher T. Howlett

A new smartphone application takes most of the grunt work out of citing books in scholarly papers.

Quick Cite, which costs 99 cents and is available for both iPhones and Android-based phones, uses the camera on a smartphone to scan the bar code on the back of a book. It then e-mails you a bibliography-ready citation in one of four popular styles—APA, MLA, Chicago, or IEEE.

Here at Wired Campus, we pointed an Android phone at the bar code on Robert Faggen’s Cambridge Introduction to Robert Frost, and Quick Cite sent us the following two citations, the first in APA style, the second in MLA style:

  • Faggen, Robert (2008). The Cambridge introduction to Robert Frost. Cambridge Univ Pr.
  • Faggen, Robert. The Cambridge introduction to Robert Frost. Cambridge Univ Pr, 2008.

As reported by Hack College, the app was developed by a team of seven students at the University of Waterloo, who set out in November to develop seven apps in seven days. They dubbed the project Seven Cubed.

QuickCite was the first app they developed and the only one so far released for sale. The app took about eight hours to make, says Ross Robinson, one of the student developers.

The application isn’t perfect.

E-mailed citations don’t indicate which style is being implemented, so users who switch between different citation styles will have to keep tabs on the differences when using the scanned citations. Another challenge is that bar codes only became standard on books in the 1970s, according to the U.S. ISBN Agency, which is run by R.R. Bowker, so books published earlier might not work with the program.

Mr. Robinson says they will update the software as they get more feedback from customers.

The group skipped classes for a week to develop the apps, which included a campus-based chat service and an augmented reality game. They’d like to schedule another marathon development session, but haven’t yet agreed on a time, says Scott Tolksdorf, another of the student developers.

“It’s really hard to block off a week of your life,” he says.

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  • http://twitter.com/InfoGrind ChristopherGalluzzo

    Good idea, but so far a bad implementation. Both example citations are riddled with errors. Here are the ones I found:

    According to the APA manual, “Robert” should be “R.” (see section 6.27), the book title should be italicized (see 7.02), and “Cambridge Univ Pr” should be written as “Cambridge University Press” (see 6.30.)

    For the MLA example, the title is not capitalized properly (see 3.6.1) and should be italicized (see 3.6.2), “Cambridge Univ Pr” should be “Cambridge UP” (see 7.4), a city of publication is not provided (see 5.5.2), and the citation does not provide a medium of publication, “Print” in this case (see 5.4.1.)

    Probably a helpful app for quick finds at bookstores but not much more.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mr.rossrobinson Ross Robinson

    Hey,

    So I pushed an update to the app that tells you what type of citation that you have made.

    As far as the errors in the citation style, we should be pushing out updates soon.

    Thanks for the feedback

  • isalaur

    I echo Christopher Galluzzo’s post and add the following:

    In APA format the title of a book (or article) is not capitalized. Also, in the case of a book, the city should be included (not just in MLA). Generally a first and middle initial is used for the author.

    But I agree a good idea…though the “teacher” in me thinks that they should learn the rules to citations and not just rely on technology!! Then again, how many of our students today can do math without a calculator…the forward march of progress I guess…

  • http://twitter.com/gailgolderman Gail Golderman

    obviously has some bugs to work out. should be free!

  • alexsim

    You should fix the typo – “Chigaco” should be Chicago. I fixated on that more than the article.

  • kimszath

    Sadly, few folks are citing books these days. Make me an app that gives the correct citation for online articles/websites, and I’ll advertise it to my students! But yes, I’d rather they just learn it. Like any computer, BS in, BS out.

  • http://twitter.com/nicolaziady Nicola Ziady

    Great tool for academicians … thank you for sharing. Kind regards, Nicola Ziady

  • davnagle

    This is a great idea, though the bugs do need to be worked out. The comment is well taken that few books are cited anymore. Most of the citations in my dissertation were for journal articles and for online sources. Since these have no bar codes, I don’t see any way to expand the app to cover the majority of what is cited these days.

  • tbdiscovery

    Please remember the BlackBerry users. You too, ProfHacker!

  • http://www.facebook.com/staffordg Stafford Gregoire

    One more reason to trade in my Crackberry, but I will suggest it to my CC students, many of whom have iPhones and Androids. (But not until they’ve done a works cited list the old fashioned way first.)

  • isalaur

    I was thinking the exact same thing when I composed my original post! Nearly all the research my students are doing is with academic journals now.

  • http://ProfHacker.com George H. Williams

    Hey, at ProfHacker we’ve published a bunch of posts relevant to Blackberry users!

  • internationalprof

    Endnote now imports using DOI’s on PDF files. It would be great if this app could do that too either by taking a picture of the number or by entering it in manually.

  • tbdiscovery

    George:

    Thank you for replying, but look at the dates! There seem to be i-Anything posts daily. I understand that Apple is the leader, but I’ll stick to the BB.

  • ufenglish

    It won’t work with my iphone. You need the 4.0 Software. : /

  • drgunn

    LibraryThing also has an app that will scan barcodes.

  • arc99999

    I am SO happy to see someone tackling this! I believe that students should learn proper citation formats much earlier in their education than they currently do (and I’m no master of citation – I curse every time I have citations to reformat and was probably lucky not to have professors who were true sticklers on citation Ps and Qs). However, I firmly believe that we need technology that simplifies citation. For an academic researcher, the ability to automate the citation process would liberate massive amounts of time that are much better spent on the creative process.

  • gladden

    The MLA citation is incorrect: it is incomplete, not only in terms of basic content, but also in terms of the most recent HANDBOOK and STYLE MANUAL requirements for specifying the form of the work. Students, beware!

  • molivas

    either of the two basic law citation formats would also be popular–Blue book or Maroon book.

  • k_thomaswhiteside

    One thing that was mentioned in the comments was the need for online journal articles to have this form of a resource. Most of the larger database manufacturers (EBSCO, Gale, ProQuest, etc.) already provide this in the tools sections for each article accessed. Many academic eBooks have this feature as well.

  • delfields

    After 30+ years in the classroom, I have witnessed a steady slide into laziness on the part of students where citation and documentation of sources in academic is concerned. Short of doing it for them, my students have been provided with where to find information regarding source documentation. All of the gifts in the world is not going to help if the student has little or no clue in terms of what, when, where and what documentation style to apply –the last time I counted, there were some 20 documentation styles. I think I will forward the above article to my students. (My courses blended and/or online)
    As distance (online) courses are student centered as opposed to instructor centered, my 13 years with this form of education is the source of my views of today’s students and their failure to take what is provided and apply it. I hope I am proven wrong–time will tell.

  • ivanacg

    The formatting of citations is different from knowing how to cite. *Knowing how to cite* would also reduce unintentional plagiarisms.

    I also strongly agree that students should start much earlier to acknowledge their sources. As soon as somebody is asked to collect information (4th grade?) they should be asked to note from *where* they’ve got the information and *who* wrote it. So no big citation formatting at this point but an awareness that one should keep track where the information comes from and distinguish it from one’s own ideas, comments, etc. The next 8 years the students can work on developing this concept. It does take time!

    I welcome software that helps in formatting citations — i.e. keeping the dots and the commas and the order in place. Middle school students actually don’t mind playing with such software.

    Considering how often one sees unacknowledged ideas/images, etc from all levels of school officials, it is not surprising that students at university level are still unaware of these academic rules.

  • chriskox

    Yet again the citation as vehicle for knowledge building gets crushed by the tank treads of the policing drive. If the scan encourages the former, it is good, if the latter, less so.

  • sand6432

    Bar codes didn’t become common on scholarly books until much later, in the 1990s, when B&N’s Steve Riggio went on a campaign to get university presses to use them.

  • http://twitter.com/rdlln Robert Dillon

    New app uses smartphone 2 scan bar code on back of book. It e-mails u a bblgrphy-rdy citation in APA, MLA, Chigaco, or IEEE #edtech

  • http://twitter.com/takebay1 shuichi takebayashi

    iPhone, Android用文献アプリ。本のバーコードをカメラで撮影して、メール転送すると、指定のスタイルのフォーマットに変換してくれる。

  • zachary_schrag

    The citation does not provide the year of original publication. Thus, the citation for a 2009 edition of a book first published in 2001 appears only with 2009.

    The app may be useful for scanning books at conference displays, but I would not recommend it to my students.

  • http://twitter.com/bcollinsmaster Bryce Collins

    I would agree it’s still not up to par completely yet good idea though.

  • http://twitter.com/GerardHarbison Gerard Harbison

    Critical mass in every classroom, eh? So to teach a decent graduate level quantum mechanics class, I need some representation of every American minority group, according to the Department of Education approved minority classification scheme?

    Presumably this is so we can appreciate the important contributions of Pacific islanders, African Americans and Aleuts to the development of modern atomic and molecular physics?

  • old nassau’67

    “combined black and Hispanic representation”.  Once again, an article that bravely begins “racial minorities” and “racial and ethnic affirmative-action policies” comes to the two usual suspects – black and Hispanic. Especially ironic, given California’s bigoted treatment, is the total absence of any mention of Asians. Ethnic – Jews, Moslems, GLBT’s, Mormons, etc. Face it: as far as higher education is concerned, “minority” means “academically underachieving identifiable group”. And “underachieving” means “not matching demographic percentage”, as though some law states that any student body’s composition must reflect that of the general populace.

  • Socratease2

    That’s great that 4 people liked Harbison’s racist comments. First of all, I do not believe a classroom “critical mass” requirement is the way to achieve academic equality in this society but at least it is an attempt to address a legitimate social issue. Gertard, you need to be less obtuse and concrete in your thinking.  Being clever and racist is still racist, you think you are funny? Well you aren’t. Why is it that the groups you are insulting aren’t represented more in the sciences?  Because they are stupid “ethnics” and shouldn’t be taking up spaces needed for the privilileged white students? Or is it because historically they have been treated as second-class citiizens and denied access to professional career paths? I guess it is because their brains are less advanced, eh? And who cares what ethnic group made past contributions to a field of research? What is your point? These minority groups should know their place and keep out of the research lab in the future. Piss off.

  • calgrad

    In the University of California, white men this year _are_ an under-represented group by Federal standards.  Going to be interesting to see what comes of that….

  • livefreeordie2

    So. . . me get this straight.  Once the remedial rationale was no longer a valid reason to discriminate on the basis of race, the left came up with diversity as a replacement?  Now that we’re seeing diversity without the help of government or you geniuses on the left, you’re going to have to come up with some other rationale to perpetuate racial and ethnic discrimination?  And you’ll do this by switching from race as the problem to class? 

    Justice is justice.  If there is a modifier, it ain’t justice.  Based upon the leftist concept,  “economic justice” for one person means stealing from another – and stealing is never justice.  “Racial justice?”  As Chief Justice Roberts famously said, “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”

  • cwinton

    You two deserve each other.

  • Socratease2

    What is that supposed to mean?  If you have a point to make, make it. I think Harbison and my  comments are coming from two polar opposite places so your comment seems confused. Would you prefer I laugh at racist comments? Explain what you mean and I may be in a better position to say what you deserve.

  • unusedusername

    “Proponents of affirmative action… advanced a new argument in a recent challenge to affirmative action”
     
    Affirmative action is a solution in search of a problem.  There will always be a new rationale, a new excuse.  Don’t mend it.  End it.

  • Socratease2

    Hey, I need to get something straight, where did you ever come up with the idea that justice can’t be modified by an adjective?  You state, “Justice is justice.  If there is a modifier, it ain’t justice.” Really, did you just make that up? That is a ridiculous statement. The International Court in the Hague deals with issues of international law and justice, are you saying that can’t be true because of the modifier “international”? And, yes, if people were to stop discriminating on the basis of race, then there would be no reason to lessen the impact of said discrimination. Here is a news flash, people continue to discriminate against others on the basis of race.But I understand you are not for racial or economic justice so please continue to enjoy shoving that unequal piece of “social resources” cake into your pie hole. I am sure you deserve it more than others. 

  • peterwwood

    “The ruling isn’t crazy,” writes Richard Kahlenberg.   No, not crazy; just tortured, and virtually certain to be overturned.  The overruling will probably come from the full Sixth Circuit but it would be a blessing if the Sixth Circuit upheld it and allowed Judge Cole’s decision to go to the U.S. Supreme Court.  As James Taranto points out in his Wall Street Journal blog  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304803104576426242787510556.html?mod=djemBestOfTheWeb_h   this would give that court the opportunity to correct some of the mischief and incoherence of Justice O’Connor’s opinion in the Court’s 2003 decision in Grutter v. Bollinger–the case in which the Court for the first time formally recognized the pursuit of “diversity” as a possibly compelling state interest that could override the state’s interest in equality before the law.    

    “Diversity” was a muddled idea from the start, when Justice Powell introduced it (by way of speculation and unsupported by any other Supreme Court justice of the time) as a possible rationale for racial preferences.  Larry Purdy, the lawyer who represented who represented the plaintiff before the Supreme Court in the Grutter case, has a nice exploration of Judge Cole’s attempt to wring yet another rationalization for racial preferences out of this dry rage of Powell’s reasoning–http://www.nas.org/polArticles.cfm?Doc_Id=2072.

    Judge Cole’s attempt to assert that a law that bans racial discrimination actually embodies racial discrimination has an Alice in Wonderland quality.  True, he has some precedents to cite:  an Akron case where a successful ballot initiative attempted to legitimize racial discrimination in housing, and a Seattle case where a state-wide popular initiative passed that banned school busing as a tool for overcoming racially segregated schools.  Yes, it is possible that a law, neutral on its face, can actually undermine civil liberties for members of minority groups.  But that’s a very long way from the actual situation in Michigan, where the central issue is restoring civil liberties by banning a system of racial discrimination.  

    Peter Wood

  • tdb489

    This argument has gone on too long and wasted too much money.   I am old enough to see the changes in classroom decorum and intellectual tenacity and I tell you they have both deteriorated beyond recognition.  In my archaic  opinion, the only students seated in a university should be intellectual elitists.  The other “wannabe” students can go to community college, join the military or get a job.

    PS:  The military is complaining that one third of it’s applicants can not pass the test for admission.  When the general population lacks the necessary IQ to get into the military you should…..

  • valentino

    Until the glass ceilings are dismantled, and playing fields are made level and more accessible–count on Affirmative Action Programs to make them so. 

    By the way, as the current majority becomes the future minority (already happening in certain cities), Affirmative Action will be called on to make sure everyone plays fair.

  • fizmath

    The original purpose of AA was to identify blatant discrimination in the workplace and then take “affirmative action” to remedy the situation.  Extensions of AA since then have come about through tortured judicial decisions. 

    I support AA as long as it applies to all of us whose names are not Forbes, Carnegie, Rockefeller, etc.

  • livefreeordie2

    (Yawn)

  • http://twitter.com/GerardHarbison Gerard Harbison

    I see Socratease2 has found his level. Argue against the status quo, and the left will call you a racist and then throw in an obscenity or two for good measure.

    Easier than arguing your point, I suppose.

  • cwm4c

    …you should be extremely pleased since these folks allow you to do what you do–you should want only the best.  It is actually 73% of high school students that cannot meet military standards and its because they are not physically fit enough–quite a testament to our state of obesity!  As for those that go in, a majority of enlistees score above average on academic admissions.  For officers (Bachelor’s degree at a minimum) the average is in the top 15% of SAT/ACT and top 10% of GPA–they are your intellectual elitists.

  • Socratease2

    People who use the tired old “yawn” response to indicate that they are dismissive of what others have to say are the most  pathetic of the lot. You are now super clever times two! What a bright little boy you are. Obviously you have no ideas worth communicating. Why don’t you go watch fox news and stay away from the CHE. Yawn yourself tool.

  • Socratease2

    I am arguing against racism which I suppose could be defined as the status quo in this society. I have no idea what you are referring to as the “left,” I am calling you a racist directly. I’m sorry, will the “right” be replying to me or do you think for yourself? And what is your point exactly, by “status quo” I assume you are saying “the way things are” whatever that vague statement means. You are right, we should accept everything the way it is because that is the way it is, good argument.

  • http://twitter.com/GerardHarbison Gerard Harbison

    The status quo is Affirrmative Action, which is certainly racist in any objective sense. In contrast, neither of my points was remotely racist. If ‘diversity’ in the contemporary American sense were necessary to teach a graduate QM class, one could number on the fingers of one hand the successful QM classes that have ever been taught. Of course, the very idea is asinine. And the contributors to the development of modern QM are a matter of record. Socratease2 is invited to identify all members of designated American minority groups among that set.

  • Alex Votocracy

    Thanks for posting – Affirmative Action always seems to elicit a wide range of opinions. Share your thoughts further by participating in our poll: How do you feel about Affirmative Action!  http://bit.ly/Votocracy

  • orfield

    People should actually read the Michigan decision.  The basic point, which is surely correct, is that the state constitution has been changed to make it impossible for advocates of affirmative action (but no other admissions idea) to have any possibility of influencing officials running public universities to implement the only policy likely to provide decent access to the public institution most important in training the state’s leaders.  (This is in a state with extremely segregated and intensely unequal public schools). 

    If you think this reasoning is tortured, what about the reasoning that assumes that racial inequality has been solved in a society where we are flooded with data showing ongoing segregation and discrimination in many aspects of life–often not as blatant as in the past but still very powerful. 

  • phill1229

    Gerard, the reason your comment comes off as racist is that you presuppose that because there is not any record (and I say ‘record’ purposely) of minority contribution to QM in the past that future contributions by minorities will be negligible as well – so why let those minorities in your QM class?  It seems you fail to see that the reason for the lack of contribution was/is the systematic racist policies which kept minorities & women out of the field.

    Just to enlighten you – here are just a few African-American Physicists who have made great contributions to the field.  I’m sure you won’t find them in any modern text book – hence my comment above regarding the ‘record.’

    1. Warren Henry – Fields of Magnetism & Superconductivity
    2. Edward Alexander Boucher – Ph.D. in Physics (Yale)
    3. James West – Physicists with 200 patents

  • goxewu

    Proponents of AA such as orfield seem to think that the situation (“a society where we are flooded with data showing ongoing segregation and discrimination”) justifies practically any means to change it.

    One could do the same with, say, crime: the situation (a high crime rate in a given state or city) justifies practically any means to change it (ratcheting back of Miranda rights, allowing ill-gotten evidence if it turns out to be true, etc.). But we don’t do those things because they’re not Constitutional. Some people argue, however, that they should be declared Constitutional by the courts, and so there’s always new legislation proposed, or a case going to court, trying to mitigate Miranda or loosen the rules of evidence.

    Many if not most proponents of AA have abandoned, or at least put on the back burner, both the “reparations” argument (i.e., that past discrimination, even if it’s more or less ceased, requires the assumption that members of certain racial groups be a priori considered unfairly disadvantaged) and the current discrimination argument (i.e., that every and any member of certain racial groups is to be considered unfairly disadvantaged) in favor of AA.

    Most proponents of AA have fallen back on the “diversity” argument–that predominantly white college student bodies deprive every student at the college of the education benefit of a student body that “looks like America” at large. The trouble is that this argument is getting weaker with such phenomena as the influx of Hispanic students into the UC system, and the percentage of Asians which would have to be cut back as well by AA in order for the student body to “look like America” at large.

    So we have, with orfield and others, a redux of the current-discrimination argument. The holes in it are obvious: Each and every member of certain racial groups is *not* discriminated against in ways that should automatically entitled them to special consideration in college admissions; racial preferences fly in the face of the Constitution and the Amendments pertaining to equal rights (thus the tortured reasoning, and resort to legal technicalities to deny or at least obscure this obvious fact).

    The solution, as many reasonable detractors of AA (no, we’re not racists) point out is to make AA socioeconomic instead of racial. If it turns out that there is–as there probably is–a disproportionate percentage of African-American applicants for college admission among the socioeconomically disadvantaged, then they should be served. But so should the poor white kid from a bad home who went to a terrible high school, and the Asian whose hardscrabble situation isn’t typical of the “model minority.” That method would be fair, and it wouldn’t assume that “racial inequality has been solved.”

  • goxewu

    Paul Quinn College lost its accreditation by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools in 2009, and it lost an appeal of that decision later in the same year. Now, as I understand it, PQC is got itself accredited by entity called the “Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools.” According to a news story on television station KERA, the SACS “looks at” about 13,000 schools, while the (dubious-seeming to me–even on its own website) TACCS concerns itself with about fifty.Questions: While the organic-farm/grocery-store project is admirable, does it mitigate PQC’s accreditation problems? Would Prof. Glasman care to opine on what accrediation by the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges indicates in terms of the quality of the school to which it grants accreditation?

  • melissastep

    This farm is a joke, no one in the school wants to participate and actually the company who brought the farm to PQC has pulled out and the college is stuck with a huge bill.  None of the students want to work on the farm the school tries to force students.  The president is trying to land a big break from some source to get money but he is not concern about the community.  The community cant access the campus unless they have an appointment with a person on campus. Also Mary is a close friend of Michael and he is using her clout to land him a chance on getting money.

  • melissastep

    Please Michael show us who you have reached out to… I am sure they sent letters you don’t care about a grocery store in that area.  You talk down about the people who live there and you want the school to look different you can just tell when you walk on campus what you want at PQC.  There is a underline factor you want to use PQC land for something else.

  • melissastep

    Response to goxewu… Paul Quinn has also lost membership with the UNCF school, there are now 38 schools.

  • goxewu

    melissastep’s comments might lack in the grammar department, but their content startles:

    * A company started the farm at PQC, pulled out, and now the college is left with a big bill.
    * PQC tries to coerce students to work on the farm.
    * People in the community can’t come onto the PQC campus unless they have an appointment.
    * Marybeth Glasman is a close friend of PQC’s president, Michael Sorrell (which is undisclosed in her post).
    * PQC is no longer a member in good standing of the United Negro College Fund.

    So, are any of these things true? And, if any are, what does Prof. Glasman have to say about them?
     (Blogger shouldn’t just puff and run.)

  • goxewu

    My apologies for misspelling Prof. Gasman’s name.

  • yellow1

    I think writing instructors have to push concrete uses of process in class (online or on ground). I am not saying you weren’t doing this, and this final draft may have been the only bit of work you ever saw (so it’s after the fact) from the student. If possible, you would want to see topics and planning as early as possible. I always found that the selection and planning of topics was often more work for the students (at least mentally) than the actual writing, drafts, peer review.

    When it happens, and I think all of us who ever taught writing have a story like this, I think you have to do more than ask for the assignment to be redone. What if your policies don’t allow that rewrite? What if your rubric specifically deals with off topic papers?

    My advice/former practice would be to assign journals. Half or more of those assigned were open topics or prompts that were often personal. Give students the chance to work through these things, in writing, in a setting where topics have more latitude (and mechanics + format most likely) than the 4-6 “major” final papers.

  • musicfordeckchairs

    I’m sorry, but I have a startled question: is the illlustration that you give of the student and the suicide experience a hypothetical one?  Or is it really something you read this past week?

    Because if it is, isn’t it possible that he might not feel comfortable sharing it quite so widely?

    (This is my answer to your question, by the way.)

  • graddirector

    While I don’t get this in class assignments since I am a science professor, as an academic advisor, I have been in the situation of dealing with too much information on many occasions ranging from angst over the decision to have an abortion due to accidental pregnancy or unfavorable prenatal diagnosis results, bedbug blooms, mold blooms and apartment fires, a whole host of mental illness treatments, broken relationships etc.

    One needs to realize that students sometimes need to talk to someone about personal things that they can not share with friends/family and often I just provide a sympathetic ear and can in some cases reduce their academic stress level some while they are going through the personal stress. Also, I am in a position to help in ways that such  family can not, I have the number of our campus mental health clinic on speed dial and such interventions have helped many of my students over the years stay in school and finish their degrees.

    In the case of the student suicide attempt mentioned above, I would definitely talk to the student to make sure that they are in a good place now and if not, get them hooked up with mental health care.  This could be the classic “cry for help”, or just something the student felt was interesting to write about.  Please don’t just give the student a bad grade and move on.  If it is a cry for help with an ongoing problem, I would refer the student to mental health help while also giving them a chance to rewrite the assignment to fit the requirements.  Think about the shooting of the Arizona congresswoman last year.  I seem to remember that the shooter was a community college student whose mindset was apparent from his class assignment writings.  While he probably would have resisted mental health care, a suicidal student who is sharing will probably accept help.

  • johnbarnes

    And if it’s not a cry for help, just something the student felt was interesting, then the shortest way to back on track is probably a long conversation, in which you need to be prepared (mostly by being relaxed and open-minded) to deal with an immense range of possibilities.  The student may have been taught or believe (or not been taught or believe) all sorts of things to produce that particular behavior; in general, because most students want to do well and want to understand how the world imposed on them works, if you can figure out the incorrect thought/belief/idea behind this, which might be anything, you can talk about it with the student and move them along.  (This is one more reason why comp classes need to be small).

    But first establish the student is out of danger.  (As a side benefit, if the student is not, the student will at least be able to see that you care about the student: once you have gone to some effort to know he’s doing better, the request to redo the assignment is less likely to appear callous).

  • http://stevenlberg.wordpress.com/ Steven L. Berg

    There are two ways I deal with too much information:
     
    First, I discuss in class that everything we write in class is public to the class and we must therefore decide what is an appropriate amount of information to share.  I provide examples and class exercises to help them make this decision.
     
    Second, I generally conference papers.  In these one-on-one discussions it is easier to show the type of concern that John Barnes (above) suggests; the type that gets help for the student and/or shows the student you care.
     
    In my first semester of teaching, a student wrote a heart wrenching essay that was of “D” quality.  Since then, I have tried to be very sensitive with the types of assignments I give.  I also have developed better skills to handle such situations.

  • girl37

    This was my exact thought too. This is a public forum.

  • beedhamm

    “ I generally conference papers”
    I read that sentence about five times trying to figure out what the missing verb was: discuss? give? go to? Thank you for the example of a verbing that interferes with the reading process.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RSRD4KFLLVQHEM4QYHLLFBQR6M chaz

    Oh, the irony.

  • stephaniemz

    I think “conferencing papers” means to discuss them individually with students.

    To the columnist–obviously an in-person discussion is a must. But you might want to think about the assignment and how the student strayed so far from your original intent. 

  • barbarashell

    It’s OK for you to live “in” the world, but they get uncomfortable when you start living in “their” world.

  • bcbailey64

    LOL!…and I can totally relate – I have two children, 12 and 17, who are amazed to discover that I actually used to be a pretty cool dude back in the middle ages before they were born.

  • rsgassle

    Then there is that scene from Grounded for Life, where the mother insists she is cool — until someone asks, “is that a kleenex up your sleeve?” 

  • lizgibbons

    In the movie, Mean Girls, is this memorable quote, “Oh, I love seeing teachers outside of school. It’s like seeing a dog walk on its hind legs. ….”  I sometimes carry my lecture notebook in a Hollister or A&F bag just to see the looks on their faces. 

  • juliewhite

    As a counselor on our community college campus, I can say that we get frequent referrals from faculty based on just this kind of scenario.  Although I agree with many of the previous commenters in terms of being thoughtful about how assignments are structured, I also believe that there are students who are so troubled that this would happen nonetheless.  Sometimes all it takes is a kind-hearted person that the student looks up to, and all the troubles come pouring out.  Please try to connect this student with the counseling center on your campus (if you haven’t already!).

  • Guest

    You ask how we handle students who share a lot of personal information. My answer is simply this: I am a person and the student is a person. I react the way I react when other people are going through hard times — give them a pep talk, have a spare box of Kleenex at my desk, ask if he has access to counseling. Most of all, I listen. I just stay quiet while the troubled individual talks and unloads. I go easy on the grade for that assignment, then expect the next assignment to adhere to instructions. I try to get the student connected to some form of help. For the rest of the semester, I make myself accessible and supportive, and then when the semester’s over, I tell the student I wish him the best and encourage him to seek help.

    One thing I don’t do is pathologize the incident or make the student feel weird or embarrassed about the paper. 

    Another thing I don’t do is offer the anecdote up for the judgment and ridicule of others, which I am sorry to say you have done with this column.

    Another thing I don’t do is refer to institutional roles. I won’t be the Stepford professor and he can’t be the Stepford student. Keep your humanity with you and have an open mind.

  • jamesebryan

    I can identify with the phenomenon, but when you live in a town of under 15,000 locals and approximately 10,000 students (in season), it happens all the time, and soon enough people on both sides get used to it.  Every other store clerk-waitress-bartender-pizza delivery boy-etc. seems to be one of your students.  It gets a little awkward when the ones who aren’t exactly working themselves to death in your classes are also servers at your favorite restaurant/watering hole, but you both learn to wear different hats at different times.

  • minnesotan

    It gets even more awkward when you are buying personal healthcare products.

  • bbaylis

    Chaz, who you are calling adults? The faculty, the students or the administrators? In the early days of residential, liberal arts colleges, the ideal was to create a 24/7 living/learning environment where faculty, and students (and the one or two admiinstrators these small institutions had) would live, eat , study and play together. If you want ot see what this looks like watch any of the Harry Potter movies. This was the model of the earliest colleges in colonial America. It was selected as a model of higher education for colonial America by the two groups that founded these early colleges–the colonial political leaders and the leaders of the established churches. The stated intended purposes of thes colleges was to provide leaders for government, society and the church. Why a 24/7 residential model? It seems that the political and church leaders didn’t want wild, drunken students running through the streets of the towns and villages and partying like they saw in continental Europe where the colleges permitted students to live off campus in any type of arrangement.If students lived on campus they thought they could exert some control over their behavior.

    This model lasted about 80 years, before students started to demand the right to live off campus? Why? They found out that it was cheaper living off campus than paying the room and board charges that the colleges were charging? For those who are trying to maintain residential campuses today, does that sound familiar? About the same time the students moved off campus, the faculty started moving off campus also. Why? Two reasons. !) They wanted to get married and raise families which was difficult to impossible if they were living in residence halls with students. 2) They found it difficult to live in a fish bowl with every thing they did being watched by students, other faculty and administrators.  

    Referring back to Sweeney’s essay, I remember one dinner that I had with students when I was applying for the Chief Academic Officer’s position at a small church-related liberal arts college. The answer, that I gave to one if the questions that I was asked, startled many students at the table. I was asked what music I listened to. The first answer that I gave was one of the expected answers. I said I liked Southern gospel music, Beethoven, and Stravinsky. One student pressed me with the question, “Anything else?” At which point I think I shocked the whole table. I said I liked Moody Blues, The Eagles, and Creedence Clearwater Revival. They all knew the Eagles and CRC, but some of them were not familiar with Moody Blues, until I mentioned Nights in White Satin and Tuesday Afternoon. They had all heard the songs, but they didn’t know the artists..So who doesn’t have a life? Four years later, I had dinner with the officers of the senior class the evening before they graduated. One of the students at that interivew table said one of the most important things he learned in his four years in college, he learned at that interview dinner. He said he learned that academics could have a life outside the academy. He went on to graduatate school in music and is teaching in a large university. The last time I saw him, he told me he still has a life outside the academy.

  • cisotgc

    I live (and teach) in a major US metropolis.  My life is defined as much by my cultural life as my academic life; in fact, I’m probably more firmly connected to my creative friends.  The headlining act had put me on the guest list of one of the major clubs one night.  As I waited near the stage for the show to begin, a student walked up to me, stopped about a foot away and stood (literally) gaping and staring, and asked, “you’re here?”

  • comicsprof

    This is a fine line. Students should know you “get” their world, but if they are TOO familiar with you, you lose a measure of authority.
    I teach popular culture classes and studio art. I couldn’t teach effectively if I didn’t keep up to some extent, and I like a measure of informality in my classroom, but I always keep a little distance.

  • beedhamm

    Thanks stephaniemz. As I wrote, I figured out that he was verbing “conference,” so I got there but it took a while and I couldn’t figure out why someone would do that to readers. There is the verb “confer,” or the more idiomatic/explicit, “meet with students individually to discuss …” Note also, that using conference as a verb does not specify a one-on-one meeting as you’ve assumed.

  • info8036

    I totally agree about making a balance; keeping a little distance goes a long way. For those trying to flaunt their inner hipster by carrying A & F bags and throwing out catch phrases (”chilling in the faculty lounge”–NOT!),  go easy as that can easily backfire and give the impression that you are trying too hard; students see through that right away. What I found interesting this past term was that several students ”Googled” me and were momentarily ”impressed” by my songwriting credits and a photo of me from my fledgling years as a rock photographer. Let them discover you without reinventing yourself for street cred, which is very ephemeral in these Twitter times.

  • emwhitephd

    Increasing age takes care of this issue, whether you like it or not. Alas. 

  • pakalolo

    That’s a tough one, although I would focus on the task first and tell the student why s/he did not meet the expectations of the assignment. Those are different issues. Then, I’d add that, nevertheless, the content of her work had made me worry and, while I’d love to help, she should ask someone more professionally prepared to help. I would then try to help her/him find help within the school (student support, social work staff member, if available, etc.). I don’t think I would just wash my hands and tell her “good luck with that”. If the school cannot help, then the “professional” on staff would refer her to the services of a medical/pshych doctor.

    On another note, I once had a student who told me her assignment was late because she had had intestinal problems a few days before her work was due. I’m using an euphemism here; she actually described her intestinal experience in gruesome details. I’m just not paid enough to hear that kind of thing. :-)

  • misstrudy

    I have had to deal with situations such as students coming to my office to talk to me about issues such as being pregnant and ambivalent about an abortion, about having returned from war and having flashbacks and other emotional issues, etc.  Not being trained in mental health, my advise could cause more harm than good, so I listen sympathetically, tell them I am sorry that they are going through them and then provide them with a card for the school’s mental health service and urge them to please consider going there, as they may be able to help them with better guidance and strategies. Usually that works.  I tend to get a “thanks for listening, I feel a bit better now”.  In class, a student wrote about a rape experience and her paper did not fulfill the assignment. I wrote a note thanking her for sharing this experience and that I felt sorry she had suffered it.  Then I proceeded to write way sin which the paper could have better fulfilled the requirements.  I don’t know if that was the right way of handling it, but I certainly hope so.

  • http://stevenlberg.wordpress.com/ Steven L. Berg

    I am sorry that I missed your comment and did not reply sooner. 

    In our area, to conference a paper is a common way to refer to one-on-one meetings with students.  I first encountered the term in the late 1970s and have seen it commonly used at the one unversity and three colleges at which I have taught.  Unfortunately, regional expressions can cause unintended confusion.

  • http://twitter.com/RobinSelzer Robin Selzer

    Embarassing…

  • rtmyers

    What the H—!  What were the sanctions? A game or 2 in the stands.  This was an embarrassment to the entire city of Cincinnati and two respected universities.  This should never happen and if we can’t play with control we should not play.  I am sure that we can someone who wants to represent our university without being violent. 

  • droslovinia

    Don’t place too much stock in “ugly incidents” that the media cannot seem to move past. They tend to get more “ugly” over time, as that self-same media works to sensationalize things in their pathetic drive to attract attention.

    Perhaps this just sells better than talking about Bernie Fine? I guess that images of young black men fighting are a lot more “newsworthy” than seeing a white man investigated for molesting children. Or is this a confrontation really that much more embarrassing than allegations of molestation, years of failed drug tests, and a starting player who is dropped for being academically ineligible?

    I’m not saying this just to bash another school in the Sweet 16, so much as to point out that the media has a choice as to what it is going to toss in front of us, just as we have a choice to be offended and/or embarrassed by it. So what is the motivation in dragging this back up again?

  • dpcowboy

    I loved the post game interview(s).  Considering that both schools are considered to be relatively good academic institutions, I am sure that the players on both teams are there for the academic excellence and are majoring in BioChemistry or Physics.  Yaknowhaddeyemean?

  • old nassau’67

     The further each team goes in the tournament, the more the fight will be forgotten, the greater the coach’s (s’) bonuses, and the better the recruiting. As Vince Lombardi said, “Winning isn’t everything: It’s the only thing.”

  • _perplexed_

    I assumed the motivation was to point out that this kind of misbehavior has no serious consequences.  The NCAA seems either uninterested or powerless to restore something resembling “sportsmanship” to college athletics.  Had this happened on the street, arrests and criminal charges would have been real possibilites.  Why is assualt legal on the basketball court?  Where were the police?  

  • droslovinia

    I was more interested in pointing out how the unholy alliance of college sports and Big Media leads to a situation where our sense of disdain can be deliberately manipulated to make a quick buck, rather than to take needed actions. On the other hand, your points are well-taken. How can any serious consequences occur when we make misconduct more a matter of “entertainment” than symptoms of a badly skewed value system?