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Professors With Personal Tweets Get High Credibility Marks

March 29, 2011, 5:20 pm

Kirsten A. Johnson always wondered whether her personal posts on Twitter, Facebook, and other social-networking Web sites affected her credibility in the eyes of her students.

So the assistant professor in communications at Elizabethtown College designed an experiment for 120 students at the college and has just reported the results. It turns out that professors with personal Twitter streams appear to be more credible than those who stick to business. The study, co-authored with Jamie Bartolino, one of her students, appears in the most recent issue of Learning, Media and Technology.

The researchers created three accounts on Twitter for three fictional “professors” named Caitlin Milton, Caitlyn Milton, and Katelyn Milton. One account was filled personal tweets (“Feeling good after an early morning swim at the rec center”), the second with scholarly ones (“Working on a study about how social-networking sites can be used in educational settings.”), and the third with a combination.

To Ms. Johnson’s surprise, when the students were surveyed, they rated the personal professor the highest on measures of competence, trustworthiness, and caring—which adds up to credibility.

Ms. Johnson thinks this might be, in part, because students could find a professor who tweets personal items to be more caring. The experiment was conducted among students at Elizabethtown, a small, liberal-arts college in Pennsylvania, where, she says, students strive to forge relationships with their professors.

“I think that students, particularly undergraduate students, want to make a connection with their professors that goes beyond knowledge,” she says.

Her study suggests that social networking can help accomplish that, while not sacrificing a professor’s standing in the classroom.

But there were some limitations.

Older students tended to respond less positively to tweets, as did students who didn’t use social-networking sites themselves. (Yes, there are some students who don’t.)

And while students said they like to know some personal details about professors—such as how the day went or plans for the evening—they don’t want to know everything.

“It’s just creepy to get any closer than that superficial level,” she says.

Ms. Johnson says the study has made her feel more comfortable about posting personal information on Facebook or Twitter, but there are certain topics she’ll never discuss, such as student or faculty behavior.

“There are times on Facebook when you just want to vent about something that happened in class, but I always refrain from doing that,” she says.

Professors take a range of approaches to engaging students on social-networking sites. Jeff Nunokawa, a professor of English at Princeton University, has posted 3,200 essays on a variety of subjects using Facebook’s Notes feature. Jeremy Littau, an assistant professor in journalism at Lehigh University, turned to students on Twitter to “crowdsource” his teaching philosophy. In a recent post on ProfHacker, Jason B. Jones writes about the value of sharing impersonal personal information on Twitter and in the classroom.

We’re curious: Do you use social networking in your teaching? And where do you draw the line between the professional and the personal? What are the consequences of crossing it? Please tell us in the comment area below.

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  • bloomthinking

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  • http://www.facebook.com/senewman Steven Newman

    Since I just Tweeted this article, I must believe it to be credible.

    I Tweet constantly about work/teaching/personal information and it flows into other social network streams. I maintain that my professional and personal life are very intertwined and often difficult to separate. Where do I draw the line? If I would not want my mother to see it, I don’t put it out. At 55 and tenured, it is still a good rule to follow.

  • arrive2__net

    A prof plays a relatively important role in the students’ lives… the prof assigns tasks the student has to do, evaluates the student, and grades the student (and those grades last for a long time in the student’s transcript). It stands to reason that the student would want to get to know the prof well enough to be comfortable. At the same time the prof is probably better served if the students know something about him or her, rather than letting them fill in the blanks for themselves without any actual knowledge. So appropriate use of the social media seems like a win-win. It good to see there is reliable research-based information like this available.

    Bernard Schuster
    Arrive2.net
    Twitter.com/arrive2_net

  • anummabrooke

    Several of my students choose to Friend me on Facebook, and most of my status updates are of the “impersonally personal” vein described in the article linked in the penultimate ‘graph above: funny (to me) quotes or observations about family life, occasional music recommendations, that sort of thing. My Tweets, by contrast, tend to be more restricted to my field of study. Sure enough, students interact *much* more with my Facebook than with my Twitter feed.

    As far as “drawing the line”: I try not to be too overtly political on my Facebook, and don’t use it to “process” on personal decisions or problems, or to express frustration about any part of my teaching (though I might express an appropriate level of frustration with writing or research).

  • doolittle222

    I don’t Tweet or include my students on Facebook. I’d rather maintain strict boundaries between my personal and professional lives, for many reasons. What does that mean? I personally love my work, but I don’t share the details of my weekend. My research might relate to personal experience, but that’s actually not that relevant to their learning the content, in my case.

    I’d like students to learn to write paragraphs, not Tweets. I can see the value for a communications class or something directly related to class, but I would use a university-sponsored network instead.

    Aren’t there more substantial ways to gain credibility? As professionals, I think we have a good sense of what it means to be credible in our fields, and we should pass this onto our students. I don’t find my colleagues more credible for posting on Facebook, though I care about how they’re doing and find their musings interesting. I find credibility in their teaching and research.

    I’m not under any illusions that students really care what I did on my spring break, and I learned early on not to ask about their weekends. (I no longer assign personal journals either–TMI!) By the way, according to evaluations, most students find me friendly and accessible anyway. Class and office hours are enough for me!

  • http://twitter.com/drdamoreland deborah moreland

    As a teacher in an independent secondary school, I agree with doolittle222′s statements about boundaries. I do not feel it necessary to participate in those sorts of chats with my students, and I hope that they understand my humanity through the discussions we have rather than through my superficial chat about my workout habits or plans for the weekend.

    However, the limited number of words permitted in a tweet requires a concision in expression that can be a challenge for students (see the article in the NYT recently on the subject). For this reason, I am beginning to think there is a place for twitter in teaching writing. Right now I am working on ways for students to practice writing tight precis via tweets or to tweet their thesis sentences as a way to workshop them in class.

    So for me twitter’s value lies not in “gaining credibility” with my students but as a means to help them to write better while participating in a growing and apparently essential technology of communication.

  • me_malarcher

    Is the expression “open door policy” used any more? If a student, at any age, feels like the instructor has a personal interest in them, I believe that helps with their education. Then there are students who you can give all you have to help them, and you wind up wasting your energy and time.

    Knowing more about your student one on one is what I found creates trust, because they feel you care about them. Encouragement and extra time spent with the student usually has a long lasting impact on their self confidence and education. To do that you have to get to know them.

    It has been the experience of my students that they regard professors who spend a great deal of their time twitting about themselves are narcissistic, condescending and pretentious. This is what I hear, not what I say.

    I have heard the students comment that professors who use a lot of social networking to talk about themselves think everything is about them (the professor.) A lot of them just plain do not care about someones moment by moment announcements of their daily life.

    These are just a few of the complaints that I have heard the student comment on about twittering. They have remarked that is seems like you are using a person’s personal life for entertainment. Charlie Sheen seemed to be a common example to explain the “tabloid” effect of “too much information” when asked what they thought about twittering.

    My students are liberal art students in a small university too. I find they do need affirmation about their abilities and opportunities to acquire new knowledge. I have a hard time understanding how a student benefits from knowing more about my personal life. I try to encourage them to be more concerned and conscious about their lives and future. Students are clever, and the biggest benefit that I can understand about twittering about myself, is that it gives them insight into how they can “brown nose” me for better grades.

  • donnatalarico

    I agree with the results of this study. I taught (as an adjunct) a course called Social Media and Public Relations at Wilkes University last spring. Tweeting was a requirement of the class and, while I created a special username for me as the instructor, many of the students also followed my personal account. I felt that overall the class of 25 students collectively respected my openness and that this transparency was a great lesson for the larger world of social media. I taught them how CEOs tweeted on behalf of companies and instead of hiding behind closed penthouse doors, they instead personally related to their audience. If we can start that at the college level when many are first exposed to Twitter, I think we are grooming great social media citizens. Even before Twitter, I always felt closer to professors who shared personal anecdotes in class rather than straight lecture. They became more real. Tools like Twitter allow us to do that in a new and different way. Those TMI types of tweets are probably not necessary, but general sharing can be so powerful in many ways.

  • donnatalarico

    And also – using Twitter the right way is key. If professors are only tweeting about where they are going for lunch, they are missing the point. The value in this is when there is sharing of knowledge. Sure, the quick personal tweets may slip in, but I really use Twitter to stay on top of trends in my industry, following hashtags like #highered and #hemktg. There is even a #prstudchat, where PR pros allot time to answer questions and engage with PR students across the nation/world. It is an incredibly useful tool. It doesn’t replace writing exercises, so I always get miffed when people comment that it’s ruining writing. It’s just a different way of sharing information and meeting like-minded people. My former students are finding jobs and internships via Twitter. For industries like communications, marketing, PR, technology, eCommerce — Twitter is a must. I could go on and on!

  • http://inklingmedia.net Ken Mueller

    As an adjunct at two colleges, and someone who teaches Social Media, I find that the interaction with my students and others is an incredible help. We get to know each other much better. As part of my current class at Messiah College, I’ve required the students to connect with me on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, and my blog. This is where both education and business are headed. We may meet from 6-9 on Thursday nights in a particular classroom, but I stressed early on that our classroom exists beyond that particular time and place. I’ve built up a good rapport with the students and my Twitter community has even jumped in and helped me teach the class by the way they engage.

  • donnatalarico

    Great points, Ken. One of the best thing is that I still get tweets from former students — they share things with me that I think I’d like based on us getting to know each other better. They report “social media successes” to me and one said she landed a job solely because of her experience in my class. That was the best compliment ever – it wasn’t all me – it was that she grasped the tools and learned to use them the right way. I know some of my comments have more to do with after graduation, but it can start in the classroom by following a professor who is a model social citizen. People just have to be open to it. It’s so much about building relationships. My class surveys were impressive – if I did not move out of the area, I know I’d be teaching that class again should they still need an adjunct to offer it.

  • jabberwocky12

    I ‘committed’ ‘Facebook suicde’ this week exactly because my two lives were begining to merge too much for my comfort – so there goes my credibility rating :-). (Unfortunately, it’s a slow death – it takes about 2 weeks – not even Wagner would dared to have done that :-)

  • http://twitter.com/millerasbill miller asbill

    I’ve been tweeting (both profession and personal stuff) consistently for almost two years. In general I’ve found students aren’t interested in Twitter. It’s not an easily social platform. I’ve even gone as far as to have a social media aspect to my class. However, they love them some facebook.
    Perhaps lack of interest is just in the students I’m dealing with in the arts, I dunno.

    @millerasbill

  • a_voice

    You said, “… I stressed early on that our classroom exists beyond that particular time and place.” I find that this is a troubling expectation that contributes greatly to undue stress for faculty and students. Some boundaries are needed so that we can keep our sanity and LIVE.

  • http://inklingmedia.net Ken Mueller

    Yes, there need to be some boundaries, but just like in business today, we need to stretch those boundaries. Also, you need to remember that my particular class is a Social Media marketing class. I’m teaching them how to use these tools, which can’t be done just within the confines of a 3 hour class in a classroom. they need to immerse themselves.

    The fact is, businesses that want to survive are going social, and the same thing is happening in education.

  • http://twitter.com/tsand Todd Sanders

    Fictional accounts? Guess it’s time for me to unfollow @KatelynMilton.

  • donnatalarico

    I think that’s where education needs to come in. Facebook and Twitter are totally different. Twitter is way more than talking to people. Within the creative writing/publishing circles in marketing circles, there is an incredible amount of sharing happening. When students realize that potential, many of them will become hooked. I had students follow a company on Twitter and each week, had them blog about the company’s activity, or lack thereof. It was a wonderful exercise. Again, my comment here is going beyond the scope of the article above, but just trying to paint a picture of how valuable Twitter can be in and out of the classroom. Hashtags are fantastic – there are so many great, regular conversations going on that students could be missing out. #prstudchat, #askagent, #submittip, etc. Everyone should give Twitter a real chance and really try to embrace it. Heck, I used it to help me relocate and made like-minded friends before I even started my new job at Elizabethtown College. I blogged about it.

  • jmco

    The results of this study confirms what I have always thought of polling students about how good or bad a professor is; they focus on personality, appearance, superficial elements of the person like clothing, lifestyle, or manners – none of which has anything to do with if they learned or not or gained anything from the class. IMHO I think faculty evaluations should happen with alumni only who have been working for a number of years. Professors, who I myself judged poorly when I was a student, I would now rate *superb* now that I am a pro at what they were teaching me. Students tend to be 17 to 28 years of age with most 18-25 in age. Most (but not all) young people are focused on relationship building and social interactions. So they judge faculty, often incorrectly, using an undeveloped brain. But what about a brilliant science professor who lacks social skills and dresses un-hip but teaches about things none of the older faculty cover in a curriculum? Things that the students of today will use as scientists (or writers, architects, business people, teachers, judges, etc.) and build new and exciting things and ideas from.
    This small survey of a “social” system shows that young people are overly judgmental and focused on how nice a teacher is and the perception that niceness equals easy grader versus how a very flawed “human” teacher, as we ALL ARE, could change their life in an amazing way, if they just set aside judging for a moment and decided to just absorb.

  • http://www.linkedin.com/in/cshunt312 Courtney Hunt

    The limitations of this study are pretty clear – especially the small sample size that’s probably not representative of the larger population. Given those limitations, as well as some of the comments already provided, the results should be interpreted and applied with (extreme) caution.

    In general I think faculty should be wary of establishing relationships with students outside the context of their courses while they’re still students, particularly on public platforms like Facebook and Twitter. Call me old fashioned, but I believe faculty should be careful of maintaining proper boundaries… I think we’ll see the growth of private social networks, however, which could provide a better, more controlled opportunity for those relationships to develop in contextually-appropriate ways.

    Getting back to Twitter, I just published a blog post that relates to some of the ideas conveyed in this piece. It’s called “Unlucky 13? Twitter “Worst Practices” for Rookies (and Others) to Avoid” and can be accessed via http://tiny.cc/SMinOrgsTwitterPost. I welcome feedback on my ideas.

    Courtney Hunt
    Founder, Social Media in Organizations (SMinOrgs) Community

  • juris_prudence

    I seriously question the validity of this study. The students “knew” these fictitious professors *only* from their tweets. The problem with that approach is that just five minutes of live, in-person contact with students — be it good, bad, or indifferent — carries far more weight than 100 tweets.

    Call me old-fashioned, but I’d suggest that if you want students to think that you’re caring, competent, and credible, act accordingly … in class, during office hours, and in your responses to student email. If you do that, students will respond. If you don’t, all the tweets in the world aren’t going to redeem your reputation.

  • arrive2__net

    Although there is a lot of useful expert advice around, I thought the research described in the article was good because it was actual research with actual students rather than opinion. Although the sample was relatively small and came from just one college, and the descriptions of the Tweets used was a little blunt, it seems authentic to me to test the ideas involved with actual students. A number of other variables could come into play however..one that comes to mind is whether the class is a large. In a hundred student class where the prof has little or no one-on-one face time with the majority of students, personalized Tweets might raise the students comfort level with the prof a lot. The prof’s skill level with Twitter, whether this technique is common across the campus, student comfort with and use of Twitter…there are a lot of variable involved, no doubt.

    Bernard Schuster
    Arrive2.net
    Twitter.com/arrive2_net

  • iredale

    Social media is a shallow and superficial mode of interaction. And the implied suggestion that it’s necessarily “open” or “transparent” is ludicrous — it can just as easily be used to conceal and deceive. As someone who takes education seriously, I’m not the least bit interested in “grooming” my students to be “great social media citizens.” You may be right in thinking that’s the future, but it’s a step backward rather than forward, and I refuse to go there.

  • http://twitter.com/rickla Rick

    The URL appears to have an extraneous period at the end. I had to edit it to reach the article.

  • http://twitter.com/rickla Rick

    The link given in the second paragraph doesn’t point to the article. I found the article in question at:
    http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all?content=10.1080/17439884.2010.534798
    Jamie Bartolino is not credited as a co-author on that page.

  • donnatalarico

    iradale – there does seem to be a divide in how people feel about social media. I respect the other opinions. Perhaps I feel the way I do because of the disciplines in which I am involved – communications, media, eCommerce, etc. I am not a full-time academic, but rather a practitioner in the field. The stance I take is that students today looking to get into communications fields need to understand these tools. If a bonus of learning in the classroom brings a student closer to a mentor, that’s just, well, a bonus. I agree that nothing can take the place of face-to-face, but social media can be an ice breaker.

  • pjungp

    Imagine a (serious) student who is deeply engaged in solving a math homework problem receiving a “tweet” from one of her instructors reporting on the newest iTunes download from an American Idol contender or complaining of a stomach ache! Wouldn’t that be downright annoying for the (serious) student?
    Why not using “good old email” if there is something with non-zero information content to tell the students?

  • greatexpectations

    Following and being followed illuminates a softer side of students as well. The tendency to view each student individually -as opposed to class of students collectively- increases. It also healthily builds name-face-character relationships not otherwise available in classroom or office hour settings.

  • http://twitter.com/PuzzlingPostDad Mike Reynolds

    I knew there was a reason I was sharing grooming habits. A very cool look at our changing views on credibility.

  • donnatalarico

    If someone is deeply engaged, they won’t “get” a tweet. They’d have to be online looking for mentions. (Unless they have something set up to get notified.) Twitter, at its core, is not intrusive. Can it be addicting though? Sure!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=501456842 Ken Mueller

    I think it’s dangerous to use such a wide brush stroke to make those sorts of statements. How is it superficial and shallow? Even the Pew Internet and American Life study out of the Pew Foundation finds that Social Media doesn’t isolate it us or replace face to face, it enhances it.
    Think of it this way, you aren’t substituting face to face for online interaction. The face to face still exists in the class, or wherever. But those students you see only 2 or 3 times a week for a short period of time. In between you have no interaction. With SM you can see them 2 or 3 times and have FURTHER interaction during the week. I use social media to post links to articles and research, have discussions about them, and even to clarify assignments if need be. We’re not teaching them to replace interaction, we’re adding to it.

    it is clearly not a step backwards. As someone who has studied and written about Media history and culture, many of the same things were said of the phone. And yet we don’t view the phone as a step backward. We can communicate more often and more in depth than we could before.

  • electronicmuse

    OMG! Must we? Tweet for “credibility” with a herd that imagines their every move is of sufficient interest to warrant Central Casting’s selection as protagonist in some public hammy drammy? Can’t I just stick with whatever I’ve accomplished over a career? Shucks! Then, lemme tell ya what I ate for lunch today . . . oh, oh, bad feeling in lower digestive tract . . . film at eleven.

    Tweeting to gain “credibility” with students implicitly endorses another “social networking” time-waster that keeps students from finding out about the real world, real person-to-person skills, real subject matter, and real skills they might actually need when they graduate.

    To paraphrase John Cage, most people ” . . . have nothing to say, and they are saying it.” And, as a pop songwriter wrote, ” . . . nothing from nothing leaves nothing.” All this despite the Internet’s alleged amplification of nothing.

    (Tried to think of a way of expressing these thoughts in 140 characters, but failed. No cred for me-street or otherwise. LOL anyhow.)

  • electronicmuse

    On a more serious (and possibly helpful) note, the “Annenberg Learner” popped into my email shortly after I “learned” one should “tweet” to build “credibility” with one’s students.

    It’s not about what students’ expectations are. It’s about what you know they need. Here’s the URL, you be the judge:

    http://www.learner.org/about/news.html

    Or maybe, try TED, where people have, uh ” . . . something to say, and they are saying it:”

    http://www.ted.com/

    Tweet? I don’t give a toot! Teachers who want to splash around in the shallows may be “liked” by their students (read “credibility”), but I didn’t sign on to be their “Buds.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=704256960 Amanda Gunther

    A former professor of mine brought this article to my attention, via Twitter. I responded: “I think seeing professors on Twitter allows students to see them as more personable- Especially when they interact w/ us”

    To go into further detail, I personally feel as though following one of my professors on twitter and vice versa allows for an entirely different type of interaction with each other- one that is important. Coming from a small liberal arts school I am a strong believer in close student/faculty relationships, and Twitter is an avenue that allows us to establish those relationships outside of the classroom in today’s fast paced world. I personally do not believe interacting with one another on Twitter is crossing the line. If anything, it shows that the teacher really does have an interest in their students aside from the typical daily interaction of lecturing and grading papers. However, I’m not sure I would use the term “credible” when describing how I view my teachers on Twitter… Maybe a term more along the lines of personable, real, open, or sincere.

    Aside from using Twitter as a means to post personal information, professors can also use a Twitter account to blast all their students with an announcement or an important reminder about class and assignments in just a few characters. I’ve had teachers announce that class is canceled as well as post jobs and internships in which their students may have interest in.

    I think the question is where do you draw the line with what you post. When it comes to that I fully agree with what Steven Newman has to say – if you wouldn’t want your mother to see it, don’t post it. For the professional image of students, teachers, and professionals this is an important rule-of-thumb to live by.

    Twitter and other social media outlets are just the beginning of the evolution of the ways in which we communicate. It is something that everyone needs to get used to, because it is not going to go away anytime soon.

  • electronicmuse

    You bet. Keep those boundaries. The military has learned a lot about this, and enlisted are not supposed to fraternize with officers. Don’t think higher ed can learn something from the military? Sorry about that! Where are your biases?

  • electronicmuse

    I wish social media were only a fad. But, there’s too much money to be made for it to disappear-as it should. How is it that an entire generation could be conned into paying ten times the price for 1/10th the bandwidth? Adults should know better.

  • http://twitter.com/JudyArzt JudyArzt

    I use a Ning in teaching as well as a blog. In addition, I am a Twitter fanatic and was a frequent user of Facebook, but now that I am on Twitter so often, I have less time for Facebook. I prefer to use blogging when teaching as it allows for creating a sense of community, and the Ning works especially well for that, as it is by invitation only: just for those in the class. As for Facebook, I usually will not “friend” a student until the course is over or after she has graduated. I am about to tweet this article, as well. Hope to get replies.

  • robi6293

    Actually, I think all this stuff about “boundaries” is the new development. When I was a student, it was assumed that students were adults, and whether students and staff formed friendships outside the classroom was entirely up to them and not something that you could make general statements about. Or maybe it’s not a time difference but a UK/US difference.

  • http://twitter.com/DonnaWilson2011 Donna Wilson

    Very interesting! I will be polling my students this summer on these findings.

  • http://twitter.com/eileenguo Eileen Guo

    Tweet on, tweeting makes you more credible. (also cool: coauthored by a good friend from high school)

  • http://twitter.com/Cultural_Hybrid Cultural Hybrid

    Professors With Personal Tweets Get High Credibility Marks
     

  • http://twitter.com/getRenown getRenown

    As a recent graduate of Brown working on a start-up geared towards college students, I would have to say that social media is a great way for students and teachers to connect.  I always found that my professors would share some of the best things in my network because they’re typically hooked into some great information streams.  Still though, I would hesitate sometimes because I didn’t know if I should friend them.  Fear of the wise, I guess…  
    I’m sure we can all visualize the take-no-guff substitute teacher that lets everyone know who’s boss by scrawling his name on the blackboard in screeching white chalk.  That’s the way of the past.  I think its time for a professors to start off the semester by writing their names along with an ‘@’ so as to say, “yes, we can be friends.”  That way we get this awkward ‘to friend or not to friend’ out of the way right from the start.  

    http://www.getrenown.com

  • arrive2__net

    ASU seems to be under a lot of pressure to expand the number of campuses, and graduates, while reducing tuition costs, without getting extra money from the state (http://www.paysonroundup.com/news/2011/oct/25/low-cost-college-plans-advance-while-payson-linger/). Trying to activate extra professorial hours would seem to help support those goals.  On the surface, it seems likely they may need plenty of professors and adjuncts if they want to staff multiple new campuses and double the number of grads “in the coming decades”.

    Bart Schuster
    Arrive2.net
    Twitter.com/arrive2_net

  • missoularedhead

    Indeed. When I teach writing in my undergrad classes, I tell them the same thing. I even give them one of my undergrad papers to tear apart, then I tell them it was my paper. They get it.

  • 12080243

    I, too, enjoyed Ms. Gasman’s article. Classroom dialogue and mistakes go hand in hand for students and faculty alike. Explicitly recognizing this reality promotes learning and openness. However, Ms. Gasman’s extension–”Likewise, we should use our voices in critical ways to move education and society forward, providing examples for our students”–is much too shallow and may be dangerous to careers of novices. 

    For an excellent read on this point, see, Benjamin Ginsberg’s “The Fall of the Faculty…”
    My research may be of help, too. It provides  research direction for those who choose to “use [their] voices in critical ways to move education and society forward, providing examples for our students.” See, “A General Theory to Test Social Reality.” Tests of social reality are reported in “Is Accreditation A Reliable Authority On Academic Quality?” and “University and AACSB Diversity (diversity in the sense of freedom of speech).” The research reports are free online at the Social Science Research Network. See,http://ssrn.com/author=397169

    Chauncey M. DePree, Jr., DBA, Professor, School of Accountancy, College of Business, University of Southern Mississippi, m.depree@usm.edu An ongoing test of social reality can be reviewed atwww.usmnews.net : “MS Open Records Request Reveals USM’s Actual Costs of President Saunders’ Plane.” Saunders reported publicly cost per flight hour was $800. FOIA requested documents from USM show the cost is about $6,000 per flight hour. This is one measure of administrative dishonesty you’ll find in the citations given above.

  • rcarabine

    I like this article. There is no point in just learning theories and regurgitating them and well used arguments just to pass a course. It is important for these students to analyse ideas & theories and to develop their own views on how to make a positive contribution to education and society. It is wonderful that Marybeth is prepared to share her own past disappointments in order to encourage others to give their think more critically.

  • ksledge

    “The best thing about giving that teaching demonstration last week was
    that I was able to show the search committee how flexible I can be in a
    somewhat stressful situation, as well as how confident I am in my
    abilities in the classroom.”

    Yes, sometimes it’s good when something like this happens.

  • 609zr

    I guess Dave has not been on too many interviews.  I think the university is off to a good start if they actually remember to pick you up at the airport on the right day at the right time.  I have never once had an interview that rated over a ‘C’.  Remember these people have no training in HRM and are flying by the seat of their pants. 

     I actually had a President ask me questions from my resume, which is appropriate, but I didn’t know any of the answers about myself.  After a few minutes, I asked to see the resume from which the President was reading.  It wasn’t my resume!  I stood up and said “my time and money are important to me too.  If you can’t at least know my name and the job for which I am applying, call me a taxi.  This interview is over.”

    My advise is, if the interview committee is rude, incompetent, etc. during the interview, you do not want to know these people on a daily basis.

    “How do you respond?”  Answer:  Most of the time I instruct the offender to call me a taxi and inform them that a formal complaint is forthcoming.

  • look123

    I came prepared for my interview at a Carolina University.  I had emailed my contact and his secretary my full flight and hotel information (numbers and full address).   No one picked me up at the airport.  I took a cab to the Hotel and then was picked up an hour and a half late for dinner because no one read the email I sent.  My hotel was the Big Name Hotel they suggested but there was 3 of them in the downtown and surrounding area. 
     
    The next morning I was picked up late. I received my schedule as I sat down to my first round of interviews.  That’s right, I got my schedule 15 min. after I arrived for my interview.  It does not really matter as no one stuck to it.  Two of the four people I was supposed to have personal interviews with I didn’t…. one was out of town and another, as far as I could tell, just didn’t feel like it. I had a great laugh with the directing teacher who was willing to meet with me despite him not being on the schedule. We joked about summer stock theatres we had worked at which were more organized than the University.
     
    I got dumped in the costume shop where I sat for about 40 minutes doing nothing.  Despite the email I sent a week before I arrived saying that I needed about 20 min. to set up for my lecture before the students showed up, I was lead into the lecture hall that was empty except for the interview committee and was told they would be the only ones there and I could start my lecture right away.  No time to set up and no access to the overhead projector, which I had asked for, hence my electronic notes that were only supposed to be seen on my computer screen could not be switched around. I had to turn off my notes.  The Professor of Dance, for all of her conditioning of how the human body conveys emotion and tells a story, could only tell me she wanted to be anywhere but where she was.    
     
    I have never had such a horrible interview experience in all my life.  I went home and crashed for 2 days as keeping calm and collected as much as I could though the ordeal stressed me out. I agree with 609zr, if the interview committee is rude, incompetent, etc.before or during the interview, then you do not want to know these people on a daily basis.

  • 22086364

    Five minutes before class began, I had to ask a student what the topic of the day was.then I went into the bathroom, washed my hands, cursed, and put on my game face.
    I have the job, and I make sure we treat our candidates better than I was treated.

  • graddirector

    How about  being put up in a student dorm where I was advised not to walk outside after dark by the security guard at the door due to the real risk of a mugging.  This was followed by a drive to dinner through a sea of porn shops and “adult clubs” .  The topper was sitting down to dinner with the department chair, associate chair and dean who proceeded to get into a heated argument whether the criteria for tenure were the same as those at the highly ranked “main campus” of this major university system or took into account the high teaching load, challenging student population, and lack of research resources found at this branch campus.

    At a later meeting with said Dean where he confirmed that the “start up” research resources were abysmal and also confirmed that the criteria for tenure were the same as for faculty at the main campus who had 1/4 the teaching load and 7 fold the start up package.  By this point, I had had it and told this dean that while I would be interested in a teaching intensive position and working with the large population of first generation college students at this school, t he was out of his mind if at the same time the expectations for scholarship at promotion were the same as for faculty at the R1 ranked main campus.  I wonder why I never got a call back for a second visit on this one…….. 

  • http://twitter.com/JohnBarnesSF John Barnes

    That was my experience, back in the day.  I gave by far my best performances in moments of wild improvisation.  But in those days at least I had some control over

    The real difficulty nowadays seems to be that a huge stress has been put on “using technology” but no time is provided for familiarization or getting it working right; rather,more than once, I’ve had a substantial part of my presentation time go into the delay of having various people (in both cases including someone summoned from down the hall) come in and struggle with computers, projectors, etc.  The repeated offer to just do the alternate presentation that doesn’t involve the gadgets falls on deaf ears; once they’re committed to making their projector work, that’s what they’re there for.

  • jamesebryan

    Do you have a job yet?

  • tgroleau

    Wow, some of these stories are truly horrible.  I guess mine aren’t that bad.

    1) Seeking my first job out of grad school I had four campus visits in one month.  When one school took me to the hotel I found out that I was expected to put the room on my own credit card and get reimbursed later.  They had made the reservations and it was an expensive hotel.  It took 6 weeks for reimbursement to be processed. On graduate school income I don’t know how I could have gotten by if the other schools did the same thing. 

    2) Later in my career I spent a day interviewing for a position and asked every person I met about tenure requirements.  I got the exact same answer from both veterans and new hires until my last meeting of the day with the Dean.  He laid out roughly double the research productivity that everyone else told me.  I pointed out the discrepancy and he said it was time to “raise the bar”.   I wasn’t really disappointed that they didn’t offer me a job but I wondered what the next few years would hold for the faculty hired under one set of assumptions who were suddenly faced with a new standard.  It was no surprise that they lost several good junior faculty and the Dean himself was gone in three years leaving behind a mess.