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NYU Prof Vows Never to Probe Cheating Again—and Faces a Backlash

July 21, 2011, 6:13 pm

A New York University professor’s blog post is opening a rare public window on the painful classroom consequences of using plagiarism-detection software to aggressively police cheating students. And the post, by Panagiotis Ipeirotis, raises questions about whether the incentives in higher education are set up to reward such vigilance.

But after the candid personal tale went viral online this week, drawing hundreds of thousands of readers, the professor took it down on NYU’s advice. As Mr. Ipeirotis understands it, a faculty member from another university sent NYU a cease-and-desist letter saying his blog post violated a federal law protecting students’ privacy.

The controversy began on Sunday, when Mr. Ipeirotis, a computer scientist who teaches in NYU’s Stern School of Business, published a blog post headlined, “Why I will never pursue cheating again.” Mr. Ipeirotis reached that conclusion after trying to take a harder line on cheating in a fall 2010 Introduction to Information Technology class, a new approach that was driven by two factors. One, he got tenure, so he felt he could be more strict. And two, his university’s Blackboard course-management system was fully integrated with Turnitin’s plagiarism-detection software for the first time, meaning that assignments were automatically processed by Turnitin when students submitted them.

The result was an education in “how pervasive cheating is in our courses,” Mr. Ipeirotis wrote. By the end of the semester, 22 out of the 108 students had admitted cheating.

Some might read that statistic and celebrate the effectiveness of Turnitin, a popular service that takes uploaded student papers and checks them against various databases to pinpoint unoriginal content. Not Mr. Ipeirotis.

“Forget about cheating detection,” he said in an interview. “It is a losing battle.”

The professor’s blog post described how crusading against cheating poisoned the class environment and therefore dragged down his teaching evaluations. They fell to a below-average range of 5.3 out of 7.0, when he used to score in the realm of 6.0 to 6.5. Mr. Ipeirotis “paid a significant financial penalty for ‘doing the right thing,’” he wrote. “The Dean’s office and my chair ‘expressed their appreciation’ for me chasing such cases (in December), but six months later, when I received my annual evaluation, my yearly salary increase was the lowest ever, and significantly lower than inflation, as my ‘teaching evaluations took a hit this year.’”

Worse, Mr. Ipeirotis’ campaign aroused mistrust. Students were anxious, discussions contentious. He found teaching to be exhausting rather than refreshing. Dealing with the 22 cheating cases sucked up more than 45 hours “in completely unproductive discussions,” forcing him to focus attention on the least-deserving students, Mr. Ipeirotis said.

“The whole dynamic of the class changes,” he said. “They hear what I’m saying, but back in their mind they are thinking about cheating, cheating, cheating … It’s a vicious cycle. So, I get into class—I’m less happy because I had to deal with cheating the day before, instead of preparing better for the class. Students get less happy. I look at them. I don’t get positive feedback.”

Mr. Ipeirotis is hardly the first professor to complain about Turnitin, but his story was unique in its public accounting of intimate details. Most memorably, the professor quoted a lengthy e-mail from a cheating student who concocted an elaborate excuse about doing a homework assignment on someone else’s laptop and then getting distracted because the grandmother of the student’s best friend had a stroke.

Such details apparently contributed to the claim that the blog post violated students’ privacy. Mr. Ipeirotis believes he didn’t do anything wrong. But with a 6-week-old son and no stomach for a legal battle, he withdrew the story less than one day after its publication. “I’m not going to fight without support of NYU, right?” he said. “They feel that there is a potential liability.”

NYU had no comment on the legal claims. But Ingo Walter, vice dean of faculty at Stern, disputed the idea that fighting classroom scofflaws is futile, saying cheating “should be a key concern of the faculty.”

“We are teaching the next generation of business leaders, and it is important that they think about the consequences of their actions,” he wrote in a prepared statement. “We are also trying to satisfy ourselves that Stern graduates know what they are talking about when they represent themselves to practitioners and in the world of stiff competition with graduates of other top schools.”

As for Mr. Ipeirotis’ claim that he suffered financially for doing the right thing, Mr. Ingo had this to say: “Stern faculty members are obligated to support the University and Stern honor codes and are never sanctioned in any way for doing so. This includes possible class-feedback consequences in plagiarism or cheating cases in course evaluations. Moreover, the course evaluation input of any student who has an honor code infraction is removed from consideration when evaluating teaching performance.”

In Mr. Ipeirotis’ view, if there’s one big lesson from his semester in the cheating trenches, it’s this: Rather than police plagiarism, professors should design assignments that cannot be plagiarized.

How? He suggested several options. You could require that projects be made public, which would risk embarrassment for someone who wanted to copy from a past semester. You could assign homework where students give class presentations and then are graded by their peers, ratcheting up the social pressure to perform well. And you could create an incentive to do good work by turning homework into a competition, like asking students to build Web sites and rewarding those that get the most clicks.

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  • tdr75

    It’s about time there was some pushback on Title IX. While everyone understands the intent of the law, the practical effect has been to exclude men at many schools from participating in sports unless they are members of a few select sports (like football). The withering of sports like men’s volleyball, swimming, water polo, rowing, and gymnastics has been a direct result of Title IX.

    It’s a badly-written statute that has had a serious negative impact on men’s participation in most sports. One can argue until you are blue in the face about institutional priorities, visibility, money, etc., but the net effect of title IX for men has been to diminish men’s participation in a wide range of sports.

    Personally, I’d love to see statutes implemented that sharply limits scholarships to the “big” sports and creates a wider distribution of scholarship money. Division I-A football school are allowed 85 scholarships. I-AA are allowed 63. Last time I checked, there were 11 players on each side of the ball. 85 scholarships allows a team to put 4 times more players on scholarship than can start in a game. Ridiculous.

    But I think the biggest strike against Title IX is that the NCAA mandates different numbers of scholarships for men and women in the same sports (2008-2009 data). Tennis? Women get 8, men get 4.5. Volleyball – Women get 12, men get 4.5. Rowing? Women get 20, men get 0 (not listed as an NCAA sport for men).

    I am NOT disputing the benefits Title IX has brought to women in sports. by and large it has been a great story. But I think the negatives the law has brought to men’s sports put a serious anchor on those achievements. I wouldn’t dare to suggest that they cancel each other out…they do not. But in the quest for gender equity in post-secondary sports, the result has been a men’s sporting landscape that has become homogenized and highly limited.

  • http://twitter.com/jerzhoo Scott Anderson

    D+ for Mr. Harlan.

  • tee_bee

    What UW did is normal. What happened at BU was a function of BU’s unique pathologies, involving one very senior administrator in particular.

  • http://twitter.com/PeyoteShort Peyote Short

    That last paragraph gave me a laugh — like there’s never any cheating involved in getting click-throughs to web sites.

  • http://twitter.com/dxjones dxjones

    Why would the Chronicle of Higher Education fail to recognized this computer science professor’s PhD degree by referring to him as “Mr. Ipeirotis” ??  He is “Dr. Ipeirotis”.

  • carterson2

    He shouldn’t have aired dirty laundry in public.
    His mistake.

    I think he was secretly self-destructing.
    I thoroughly enjoyed the article, but he was asking for punishment.
    Perhaps he can move on to a talk-show now…

  • ZoubIWah

    clearly they don’t know what they’re talking about
    they don’t care for cheating, they only care about the money. let the student cheat = more money.
    Oh of course, this is bad for the nation and for the jobs they’ll take, but who care, right here right now? Right.

  • ZoubIWah

    how was he asking for punishment?
    Yes he expected a bad reaction, but no, the reactions made are baseless and pure FUD to stop him from showing the world what’s going on.

    If you see a policemen kill an innocent, cold blooded, and you report him, you’re expecting him to react, no? Yet.. it’s your fault for reporting? What kind of horrible thinking is that.

  • jffoster

    Mr Jones,
       I believe that the Chronicle engages as a matter of policy in kind of reverse snobbery common on parts of the East Coast where they even in colleges and universities they don’t use the title Dr..    What is particularly galling is those such newspapers and institutions who won’t use it for an earned Ph D or the like but will use it for a Doctor of Medicine, Doctor of Dental Surgery, or Doctor of Veterinary Medicine.  I.e. they don’t recognize any doctors except those with medical degrees as “real” doctors, although the idiots / ignoramuses  don’t know that physicians came to use it far later than academics and other learned people. 

     Or don’t care.

  • carterson2

    You make him sound like a saint for reporting
    his own teaching flaw. Don’t setup kids for failure.
    Let them know that “fraud-o-meter” is being
    used and show them daily that its on-to-them.

    Or let the dean in on the whole shebang,
    lest it blow up.

    who the heck was his audience?
    Alumni?
    What was his motivation in writing this?

    Don’t get me wrong, my heart goes out to this guy,
    but if you make companies/colleges look bad
    they will attack. He had to know that, or else
    he should have vented on an anonymous blog.

    He has tenure, so he should be ok? Right?

    Go look at Truman Capote. He thought
    he was above it all until he shamed the status quo
    and it killed his career.

    I have taught and even I know better than to
    shame the system. (unless I was self-destructing).

    Jim Pruett, Director
    WikiSPEEDia.org
    A TN Charity.

  • blowback

    All the comments here fail to state the obvious: NYU students behaved poorly not only because so many may have cheated—and let us assume that there were far more than Turnitin could have caught–but that the professor was given a poor evaluation because he not only forced the issue with the class as he should but that in attempting to instruct the class on the correct way of doing their work he was seen by these students as less effective.

    The correct conclusions to be drawn here are not the ones Prof. Ipeirotis or NYU have stated:
    1. this is another example of why student evaluations are useless and used by students in the most irresponsible manner. Students are not capable of evaluating issues of teaching, learning, or the mastery of the subject content of the course. If the aim of evaluations is to improve the teaching of the professor than just record every class. Have professor sit in on each other’s classes to share their teaching methods etc. Just giving students some online or paper form to fill out right before the final exam is just stupid. And higher education and those who run it seem to do too much of this kind of useless administration and oversight.

    2. NYU is an institution that in its race to become more “elite” has lost any self-respect it might have had. How many of you recall the profile of the NYU student in the New York Times in the Spring of 2010? In Sept. of 2010 in the Times special College Section? Go back and read these and you will see a pattern. It is not a pretty picture for how this university is being run—if that is what you what to call it–at times it seems that the only thing NYU has is a PR Office not a President who can lead or shape the character of a school.

    3. This is just another poor reflection on the students that attend this university. What does it mean to become a “selective” university if these are the kinds of students that the school admits? Ones who when spoken to as adults about how their work is not up to honest academic standards react by suggesting there is nothing wrong with them but with the professor? Do these students think when they start a career—if they will ever get a chance to have one– that those who they will be working for will put up with this kind of attitude? There is only one thing college should be about—learning to work hard and master the subject. Professor do not need students to become co-professors of their classes. Too many students–mostly american students–lack the discipline needed to just be effective in their studies and so we have to fill up class time with play time–we better not demand too much work and we better not be too demanding in our grading. Think of what adjuncts have to put up with when we have spineless NYU professors and Deans unwilling to demand too much from these students—cheat all you want, don’t do any work, do the least work and still get the A. Just keep coming to NYU and keep paying.

    4. The official reaction of NYU and its officials here is another sign that the real problem at NYU are those who are leading it. They pretend that they have high academic standards when in reality they care nothing for the actual education of students. They just want students to keep thinking that spending more than $200,000 for 4 years of college  is money well spent—-it is not. And when the truth comes their only recation is to bury it as fast as possible. When not for profit colleges behave like for profit colleges we can all better see that the lies they tell are very much the same. 

  • oplopp

    Wow, really? Your whole argument is: don’t do anything against the system because they come out to get you?

    He may not be a saint (since that typically requires being more than a professor), but he had the courage to write something that some people are apparently too afraid to write.

    Oh Academia. Become irrelevant already.

  • nateberkopec

    Wow, love Stern’s official statement. “la la I’m not listening!”

  • not4nothin

    If memory serves, this issue was raised recently in a blog post.  The justification cited was that the good folks at the CHE, as journalists, follows the AP style manual. 

    According to AP only medical doctors may be referred to as “Dr.”  Philosophy doctors are not.

    I’m not a journalist, I don’t use AP (I use e.e.e. style, aka the voices in my head), so it’s not an issue for me. 

  • not4nothin

    If memory serves, this issue was raised recently in a blog post.  The justification cited was that the good folks at the CHE, as journalists, follows the AP style manual. 

    According to AP only medical doctors may be referred to as “Dr.”  Philosophy doctors are not.

    I’m not a journalist, I don’t use AP (I use e.e.e. style, aka the voices in my head), so it’s not an issue for me.  

  • bpilgrim

    “Mr. Ipeirotis is hardly the first professor to complain about Turnitin…”
    He’s “complaining about Turnitin” because it…what? Exposes cheating students? We can’t do that. Then they might have to learn to be responsible for their actions.

  • arminius

    Let me see – the faculty member detects cheating and the dean refuses to kick those students out of NYU?  I am astonished that the 80% of the students that actually were doing their work did not revolt and demand that the cheaters, at a minimum, get tossed out of class.  My spouse has since retired from an “elite” institution where cheating was rampant. 

    Since I’m a curmudgeon — I say create mandatory national service for everyone at 18 without any student deferments.  It is time the class of sainted rich sniveling privileged snots that we’ve created  learn that Daddy’s money won’t help them while they are cleaning a toilet or two.  

  • cdelance

    This really puts into perspective the drive by the right in Texas to have pay linked to student evaluations.

  • redweather

    I would be great if you could get students to put pressure on each other but they seem reluctant to do that.

  • archilochus

    NYU’s highest value is political correctness in order not to make waves in order not to offend anyone in order to keep parents cooled out.  As we say, follow the money.  It’s embarrassing and discouraging to individuals with old fashioned notions of ethical and academic standards trying to work there.  Those of us who stubbornly can’t seem to learn to keep head down and mouth shut endure the kind of fate of Ipeirotis, who, to his great credit, was trying to do the right thing.  The right thing is the last thing to happen at NYU.  Here is another attempt at right action silenced.  But we are not surprised. 

  • redweather

    I had no idea some with a PhD were so upset about not being referred to as Dr.  Sounds like one of those issues that surfaces only when the stakes are quite small. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Laurence-J-Gillis/1078068945 Laurence J. Gillis

    Students are exquisitely sensitive to peer pressure.  Therein lies the key to the solution to this ongoing problem.

  • tempanon

    As long as student evaluations and grade of students are used to evaluate teachers and determine their pay, no substantial improvement in teaching can be expected. Because like he says, once you start doing the right thing (even as your boss is encouraging you to do so), your student evaluations drop, your pay gets affected, etc. Same with determining grades. If you gave a kick-ass class, at the appropriate level for the place you work, you have to curve at the end to avoid that too many students fail the class. Because when too many students fail the class, YOU are a bad teacher, it is never the students. Because blaming the students result in bad grades for the university, which result in less students and a downward spiral… And so the capitalistic system is designed to drive down requirements for students and the professor and research ranks are filled with students of socialist and communist countries where students and teachers are evaluated against objective norms, not jumping through the hoop requirements to make the system happy…..

  • historymike

    Intrigued by this quote from Ingo: “…the course evaluation input of any student who has an honor code infraction is removed from consideration when evaluating teaching performance.”  At all seven of the colleges and universities at which I have taught, student evaluations are anonymous, and there would be no way to weed out cheaters.  Also, part of the point of anonymous evaluation surveys is that students will be more likely to express accurate assessments and less pressure to write glowing reviews (though, of course, they can now be free to write disparaging reviews without merit, but that is a separate issue).  Is Ingo suggesting that NYU’s student evaluations are not anonymous?

  • dwalcerz

    Did I read “Mr. Ipeirotis is hardly the first professor to complain about Turnitin”? I didn’t see any complaints about Turnitin. I saw complaints about a culture of academic dishonesty that includes both students and administrators. Changing that culture requires tools like Turnitin, but one professor can’t do it alone.

  • anummabrooke

    It’s a little appalling that the writer doesn’t consider a cut-and-paste-from-uncited-sources paper to be “real cheating.” Perhaps the institution as a whole has failed to have a meaningful conversation about their own plagiarism guidelines? It’s one thing to have a policy in a student handbook and access to TurnItIn, it’s another thing to have an ongoing, institution-wide conversation about academic integrity.

  • austinbarry

    I wonder what the rate of false positives is for Turnitin?  Also, with thousands of papers on file written about the same (perhaps narrowly defined) subject, what are the chances of someone independently creating a paper that is similar to one of the thousands of others on file? 

    Then again, students are capable of doing highly original work when motivated. Getting distracted when your best friends grandmother has a stroke – that’s original (if a little implausible).

  • supertatie

    I find this whole article appalling.  I used Turnitin for several years.  And yes, it detected cheating in some instances.  And yes, I dealt with it.  I found Turnitin to be an incredibly useful and helpful tool, and I began using it as a result of an article which garnered national attention – which was written by two tenured professors from my own, nationally-known public research university – in which they published research showing that explaining cheating and plagiarism to students does NOT dissuade them.  By the students’ own admission in this research study, the only thing that deterred them from cheating was the use of a computer program to detect cheating.

    Why?  I have my theories, and I suspect that students have more confidence in their own cheating abilities than the ability of another human (professor) to catch them.  (That’s foolish and untrue, in my experience.)  But, being they DO believe that a computer could catch them.  So that deters them.  Not awareness.  Not education.  Not ethics.  Not honor.  Technology.

    Fine.  Armed with that information, I implemented Turnitin in my advanced composition course.  And explained it to the students – how it worked, what they were expected to do, what the penalties were for cheating.

    And you know what?  EVERY semester I would have at least one who cheated anyway.  And not some questionable 11 – 12% of the paper, or two or three words in a handful of sentences, but 85% of the paper, and up.  Whole passages copied verbatim.  And from other students, who had turned in papers earlier in the semester, or from another term.  After they KNEW how the Turnitin system worked!

    What is interesting is that in EACH case, it was I who suspected the cheating as I was READING the papers.  In one instance, the writing style completely changed midstream.  In another case, I thought, “Wait a sec – didn’t I just read this somewhere?” and went back to a paper I’d graded earlier to find the exact same language.

    Only THEN did I go back and read the Turnitin reports.  And lo and behold, there they were, in all their glory, exposed as they cheaters they were.  It wasn’t even debatable.

    In every case, there were disciplinary consequences.  Typically, the students failed the assignments, and a letter went into their academic files.  If the assignment was significant enough, they also failed the course (and because it was required, they would have to retake it).  I always gave the students the option to take the academic consequences OR defend themselves in an academic integrity hearing, which NONE ever opted to do, for what should be fairly obvious reasons.

    Was it fun?  No.  Was I saddened and disappointed that it happened?  Yep.  Every single time.  I am an optimist, and always hope that “this year will be different.”  But human nature is what it is, and there will always be those who try to skirt by on someone else’s work.

    I didn’t find that it changed the tone in the classroom at all.  But then, my position in the classroom is somewhat old-fashioned, in that I am the boss there.  And we play by my rules.  I am not the students’ friend (though many come to me each year for advice and counsel).  I am teaching because I have knowledge that the students don’t, and it is my job to effectively convey that knowledge to the students.  Do their opinions matter?  Yes.  Do they express them?  Yes.  Do I listen?  Always.  Do we have fun, invigorating discussions?  Absolutely.  But who makes the rules?  I do.  And they know what those rules are, and that I live by them, and that I apply them fairly and consistently.

    And with those expectations clear, my evaluations never suffered.  In fact, I was consistently among the highest ranked professors in terms of both rigor and ability.

    I offer these observations not to suggest anything particularly distinctive about me, but because there are ways of having control in your own classroom that make you neither a tyrant nor an officious intermeddling busybody, but enable you to be a professional who sets standards for your students that all of them will understand, the vast majority of them will respect and most of them will live by.

    We have a responsibility here.  On the matter of ethics, students seem to think that ethical dilemmas are things they will encounter when they “grow up”; “out there” in the “real world” somewhere, sometime.  They miss the ethical dilemmas happening right before their eyes.  I try to point those out to them when I can.  And instances of cheating are good examples to use.

    One year, two students were violating my attendance policy, signing each other in falsely.  I caught them.  One explained that his roommate had been sick, missed a lot of class, and he was afraid he was going to be affected academically by not being there.  (I had a written policy of accommodating illness, so this concern was unsubstantiated.)  He said, “I felt sorry for him, so I signed him in.”

    I asked him, “What are you going to do some day when you are a surgeon, and one of your colleagues is, let’s say, going through a painful divorce.  And perhaps he’s drinking too much, and you know it.  Or he’s taking medications improperly from the physicians’ supply closet.  And you know it.  And he’s operating on patients while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.  And you know it.  But if you tell anyone, he could lose his job.  His license.  Do you think you won’t feel sorry for him then?”

    I continued, “Do you think it gets EASIER to do the right thing as you get older?  It doesn’t.  It gets harder,  because the stakes are higher.  So learn your lesson now, at 21, when the only consequence is having to take the class again.  And remember it later when these issues come up again.  Because they will.”

    I ask my classes, “How do you think Bernie Madoff got to be Bernie Madoff?  He wasn’t born 50 and a fraud.  He became that, slowly but surely, by convincing himself that the rules didn’t apply to him.  And most likely, there were instances in his life where he could have been stopped, but someone decided not to pursue it, because they felt sorry for him, or it was “no big deal,” or “everybody does it” or it was too “exhausting.”

    There are even amusing ways to point out the fact that students have choices every day with long term consequences.  In one discussion about the environment, when the students were castigating older generations for they viewed as irresponsible treatment of the planet, I laughed, waved my arm around the classroom and said, “You’re kidding right?  Have you seen what this classroom looks like when you leave it?  Who goes behind you and picks up the newspapers, the candy wrappers, and the Starbucks cups you leave behind?  What do your apartments look like right now?  Your cars?”

    It was amusing to see their faces as I said, “Environmental responsibility starts at home.  Just like everything else does.”

    Here’s the point: Why should it be “exhausting” to deal with any of this?  I view my job as not
    only teaching the students writing and other academic content, but also adding to their life
    skills and the lessons we hope to impart to them AS THE ADULTS IN THE ROOM,
    including ethical professional practices.  If are not willing to do
    that, if we find that draining or exhausting, if we don’t want to
    bother, then we should not be professors.  We can go be writers or
    painters or plumbers.

    In fact, it’s beyond that, really.  We all impart lessons about life to each other, and contribute to our society’s culture whether we want to, or not.  When we deal with unethical and unprofessional behavior, when we stand up for something, when we live by the principles we say we believe in – we teach one lesson.  When we ignore it, we teach another lesson altogether.  But we are teaching, either way.  So the question becomes, what do you want your legacy to be?

  • nominalize

    Part of it is that federal law (FERPA) makes it illegal to ‘out’ cheaters in class.  So you can’t use peer pressure.  

  • supertatie

    Postscript: the university where I was working when I used Turnitin subsequently forbade faculty from using it, claiming student “intellectual property” rights were being violated.  As an attorney, I can tell you that this is a joke.  What – students have an IP right to use another students’ (or anyone else’s) work? 

    The Fourth Circuit had already decided a case like this, and concluded that Turnitin was not violating students’ copyrights.  But we weren’t in the Fourth Circuit.  Which means, of course, that Turnitin would be forced to re-litigate the same issue in every federal circuit in the country, or wait until it had two inconsistent judgments and then take the matter to the Supreme Court.  To be honest, I have not followed the issue since I left that university some time ago, so if anyone has updates on the Turnitin litigation, I’d be interested to know them.

  • landrumkelly

    NYU ties salary increases to course evaluations??  Now there is the underlying problem.  I thought that only Podunk Junior College did things like that.

  • jffoster

    Then the AP and its “style” manual are aptly named —-

    Ass Ociated Press.

  • shakenandstirred

    Professor Ipeirotis indicated that he decided to really crack down on cheating after he had tenure.  That means that he had one kind of reputation among students who signed up for the class, and when those students actually got into the class they found the experience to be quite different than they had expected.  That might account for some of the classroom dynamic issues.  Perhaps the drop in evaluations was related to the fact that he did not run his class the way students had come to expect him to run his class. 

  • bergtrom

    Using Tuirnitin to detect plagiarism is an abuse of an otherwise very useful tool.   Plagiarism, like cheating, is a legal concept involving an intentional act.  It seems to me that students may copy or cite without attribution (even when using quote marks), with no clear intention or understanding that they are committing an illegal act. The situation is made more complicated because plagiarism is quantitative – what’s the dividing line between acceptable copying and too much copying?  Even Turnitin recognizes these ambiguities by scoring the percent of unoriginal content in a submission and (if I am not mistaken) when it refers to its product as detecting “unoriginality” rather than plagiarism.  A “best practice” is to require that students produce original work.  Therefore a more appropriate use of Turnitin would be is to require students to submit their work to Tutnitin.  The instructor provides his/her interpretation of the Turnitin output to students and requires students to evaluate and revise their work based on the instructors “turnitin guidelines”.  I do this, and downgrade a student who does not adequately address the issues caught in the Turnitin analysis of their term paper.  In my view, this is both aggressive and instructive… as well as non-threatening to course evaluations.

  • pterodactyl123

    First of all, it’s not clear that the professor was financially penalized as a result of his investigations into cheating. He mentions on his blog (the copy linked to this article) that he does not publish in journals approved by Business Week, but “that’s another story.” We’re also living in an economic period where faculty should not be expecting massive salary increases. Cutbacks tend to be more the norm, and if you are lucky enough receive a salary increase, it may not be as large as you might like.

    Secondly, the professor states in his blog that he did not penalize students who clearly used the “copy/paste” method to compile their reports. That’s a big problem: when you catch cheaters, you need to punish them. Send a strong message to the cheater by assigning an F (0) to the plagiarized assignment. Then, candidly inform the rest of the class that you have caught someone (don’t name that person) and explain how this affected their grade. Once word gets out that you do punish those whom you catch, cheating incidents tend to plummet. You can spend one class early on explaining plagiarism, and what it encompasses, or you can require each student in the course to take an onloine plagiarism awareness tutorial. These tutorials often provide students with a certificate of successful completion, which they can print off and bring to you as evidence of their awareness of what plagiarism entails. But you must follow up and punish the guilty; otherwise there is no point.

    This professor’s teaching evaluations may have dropped slightly during the first (and only) semester that he tried to aggressively monitor cheating. My own teaching evaulations were the lowest during my first semester on campus, when I did not yet have the experience to address cheating in a stern but systematically fair way. I do not post the papers that I have found on a blog. I do not make a spectacle about catching cheaters. But I repeatedly remind students throughout the course why it is crucial to submit one’s own work. And I consistently penalize cheaters. Luckily, I enjoy the full support of my department and my university. And I feel that students respect me and other faclty members who police cheating, because they realize that they are also being cheated when lazy students submit “superior” work and receive higher grades for it than those who strugvgle with their own work.

  • paprieto

    Finally,
    dwalcerz succinctly describes the main issue. Popularity and costumer satisfaction should not be the paradigms in higher education or education in gneral. 

  • austinbarry

    Responding to your first paragraph – I think this is a quite common attitude and I’m not surprised in the slightest.  Instead of “don’t plagiarize because it is wrong”, it’s “don’t plagiarize because you might get caught and get in trouble” and once you explain how Turnitin works, they see the chances of getting caught are high.  

    After all, how many people ignore a posted speed limit, but slow down when they see “speed limit enforced by radar” (and why bother to put up a sign stating this rather irrelevant information).

  • johnsonr3

    Frankly, if I define plagiarism carefully in the syllabus, go over what it is (and isn’t) at the start of the course, ensure students are familiar with the plethora of auto-citation tools there are (that I certainly never had as an undergrad), as well as the citation type I expect them to use, I have done my duty. Having them confirm in a paragraph that they did not plagiarize at the end of the paper seals the deal. If they are so stupid and morally bereft that they cheat after that, I have even less sympathy than I would have had if I had caught them without the warnings.

  • acorn

    Well, let’s not put all of this on NYU alone. Show me a college/university where the highest value is not to keep students and parents happy. Ethics and standards be damned. Sadly, “follow the money” is all too often the prevailing mantra of higher education. Although this is unspoken, every faculty member, every student, and every administrator knows this.

  • jones41

    At Podunk Junior College you don’t get yearly salary increases.

  • newsoffice

    Basically one in five students admitted cheating….that is pretty shocking and maybe also pretty typical. And, no, the universities don’t  want profs going after cheaters and plagarists — it upsets parents (i.e. money) which adminstrators do not like.

    It id also true however that students don’t really recongize cheating as a terrible thing. They cheate dhtorughout high school and no one cared or called them on it.  They assume they can just have a to-over and are genuinely shocked when they get a zero in the course – even though penalties are clearly set out in the syllabus. Also different faculty handle cheating very differently – regardless of a unviersity’s honor code or official policies. Some are hard lined, some are fairly sympathetic to the inevitable sob story.

  • http://thetorg.com Bill Torgerson

    This sounds like a nightmare.  I teach a hybrid research paper I call a Scholarly Personal Narrative.  It’s not a name I came up with myself.  It asks students to tell a personal story and integrate scholarly research.  I think it’s the sort of assignment that is more difficult to plagiarize.  Examples of this sort of work would something along the lines of Joan Didion’s Year of Magical Thinking, any of the teacher stories you might see in a scholarly journal, or something along the lines of a documentary style voice as in Food, INC or No Impact Man.  These are works where the personal identity is there, but there is also the presence of scholarly research.  My students blog and make short documentary films, and these seem in line with the suggestions in the last paragraph.

  • 11182967

    Referring to persons who hold other titles as “Mr.” or Ms.” (and sometimes “Mrs.”) is a stylistic convention used by many publications, even when the persons involved have medical or clerical or other such degrees.  It obviates the necessity of determining the exactness of titles like “the Right Rev.” and serves as an equalizer for persons in the same profession (as at UMichigan in my grad days all full-time faculty were referred to and addressed  as “Professor,” regardless of their academic degrees).  Many publications (see the Economist, also many scientific journals) will make an initial reference to an individual using a title and then use Mr. or Ms. in subsequent references.

    At the institution of my first teaching position in the 1960′s, however, there were relatively few faculty with doctorates, and several of those who had doctorates were terribly insistent on being addressed as “Dr.,” particularly over the public address system in the main building.  One day a group of young instructors and student conspirators took over the PA system and began calling out the names of the more uppity doctorals–”Paging Dr. Jones,” Paging Dr. Smith”–while others pushed a couple of gurneys with well made up accident “victims” around the halls.  Soon after the convention of addressing all faculty as “Professor” was quietly adopted.    

  • joechill

    So true.  I don’t see how student evaluations should be the only factor in determining one’s teaching excellence either. 

  • poncedeleroy

    I bet that for every student who complains “Don’t you trust me?” there are 5 who are glad the teacher is making the playing field more even by guarding against plagiarism and unfair advantage.

    “Don’t you trust me?”
    “Yes, but I am not leaving the room when I give out an exam in the class either.”

  • goxewu

    What to think of a business school when its Vice-Dean can’t think straight: “Moreover, the course evaluation input of any student who has an honor
    code infraction is removed from consideration when evaluating teaching
    performance.”

    Of course, the evaluations from students who’ve violated the honor code and haven’t turned themselves in or gotten caught by someone else are not removed from consideration, nor are those who might have to cheat in the future when they’re in a grade bind. Those students would probably want to downgrade a professor with whom they might take a class in the future, to lessen the chances of their own getting caught.

    The non-consideration of teaching evaluations from students who actually have an honors-code violation on their records is probably affects a professor’s overall teaching evaluation about as much as a BB gun would change the course of a charging elephant.

    Kids, can you spell l-i-p-s-e-r-v-i-c-e?

  • czander

    I tell my students if they get caught cheating they have to spend 45 minutes with me (A psychoanalyst) discussing why they wanted to get caught. I tell them if they get caught they are bad cheaters, they hate cheating and they should understand their unconscious motivation for getting caught.

  • mcsmith

    Duh. Mr. Ipeirotis didn’t figure out until he’d been teaching long enough to earn tenure that he should build assignments that students’ cannot plagiarize. Maybe NYU should revisit that tenure decision.

  • chronicledm

    The Chronicle has a policy of not using “Dr.” with anyone’s name.

  • pswartz

    At my university, the Mycourses application does allow Turnitin checking, but it also allows me to set the reports so the student who has submitted the paper can see the report (highlighted areas that seem to be directly quoted or copied from other sources).  I tell my students to use this feature to check on their own paraphrasing and quoting. Then the student can revise and resubmit work that is properly cited and adequately paraphrased. I found this has helped my comp students during the writing process. I suggest that this kind of software can be a learning tool, not simply a policing tool. My students have responded very positively to this process.

  • activelylearningtolearn

    Plagiarism is such a complex category that Turnitin might accuse 50% of dissertations of having been plagiarized. Teachers have to acknowledge the difference between intentional and unintentional plagiarism and actively teach students how to avoid the latter, especially for a generation of students who bond via memes and other forms of appropriating and re-disseminating other people’s work.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Nuckolls/100001571701477 Bob Nuckolls

    @bergrtom : “Using Tuirnitin to detect plagiarism is an abuse of an otherwise very useful tool. Plagiarism, like cheating, is a legal concept involving an intentional act. It seems to me that students may copy or cite without attribution (even when using quote marks), with no clear intention or understanding that they are committing an illegal act.”

    Is this the correct premise? What are the fundamental duties of the teacher/student relationship? I consider it the teacher’s job to impart understanding and a confidence that arises from that understanding. While it’s certainly useful to know what a student read while gathering data to support their PERSONAL argument, it would add no value to MY assessment of THEIR understanding by reading what they read.

    Quotations from the works of others are the stepping stones upon which the student’s own work-product stands. The teacher needs to know how the student has integrated facts and ideas into their own understanding. How is this accomplished? Through an exchange of written and spoken words for the purpose of forging and testing ideas. Hey teach! Look at this really cool quote from . . . . I think this idea really fits nicely into . . .”

    I’m sadly aware of students at the college level who are told the first day of class, “Cut-n-paste without attribution is the vilest of academic sins.” Yet they do it anyhow. Some are repeat offenders. This problem has roots much deeper than any existence or enforcement of institutional rules against plagiarism. It’s a cultural problem when some students are made to believe that plunking down the work product of others demonstrates their personallevel of understanding.

    I suggest that higher education is reaping the crops of what bureaucrats have sown. We see students who have been taught the art of seeking the right information to plug into the right box by individuals tasked with stuffing student’s heads with facts. At the same time nobody is sitting down with that student to see if they understand and can use that information in any honorable, life-fulfilling manner.

    This is the no-child-left-behind approach to evaluating effectiveness of the teacher/student relationship.. The bureaucracies who have placed themselves in charge of evaluating the effectiveness of teachers are telling both teachers and students that it’s simply a matter of, “Putting the right information in the right boxes. Do this and all is right with the world. Fail at this and we loose our funding.”

    Teachers and students are morphing into modern incarnations of Pavlov’s dogs . . . wave a fist full of dollars in the air and more correct info is plugged into the right boxes. They cannot help themselves.

    Present trends plotted into the future suggest that one of you will have a student walk in, plunk down a 200 page cut-n-paste of their textbook and say, “Here it is teach. Give me an A.” I think debating/discussing the details of the professor’s experiences in terms of student privacy, stresses of a new baby, or mandates to design plagiarism-proof assignments, etc. etc is a red herring. It’ illustrates the degree to which those-who-can-not-teach have sandbagged those who can. Professor Ipeirotis has to be a very sad man . . . and his nation’s educational “system” is doing it to him

  • http://zhmao.myopenid.com/ Howie

    I agree that student evaluations shouldn’t be the only factor, but that does not mean they are worthless. I’ve had some really, really bad professors (of the “couldn’t possibly teach for his/her life” variety). If the administration at my school actually paid attention to student evaluations, we probably wouldn’t have so many shoddy instructors.

  • barbarapiper

    Turnitin identifies blocks of text that have appeared in other documents elsewhere, highlights those blocks of text, their sources in those other documents, and gives a percentage of the student’s paper that appears to be lifted from other sources. It is up to the instructor to determine, in each case, if the standards for plagiarism or other forms of cheating have been met. A paper in which 15% of the text is identical to text in other papers might be very reasonable if the student was analyzing a play or poem and was simply quoting passages; on the other hand, a 15% duplication rate might be evidence of plagiarism in other kinds of papers — I assume that some of the many additional hours that Prof. Ipeirotis spend on these cases was in determining what was innocent use of unsourced text and what was genuine cheating. It’s not being similar that is caught by Turnitin: it’s being identical, and it’s up to the instructor to determine why.

  • http://zhmao.myopenid.com/ Howie

    Hey, if I spent several years of my life working towards a PhD, I would certainly want to be addressed by my proper title. I find it strange that the AP style manual has this rule, especially since the word Doctor was originally used to refer to academics and not to physicians (the word Doctor comes from the Latin word for “to teach”).

  • mpbsma

    It shows how much Ingo Walter, vice dean of faculty at Stern, knows about student evaluations: They are supposed to be anonymous (paper-bubble forms are and online forms are supposed to be administered by third parties and guaranteed to be anonymous unless Stern University’s evaluation is NOT anonymous). Here is a university obviously following the money: We have a better system at Stern!

    Most professor’s work are rarely ever appreciated by students unless you are the ever-popular-often-sought-after-easy-grader-most-caring professor, and there are some good ones. But most of us are not in this category and we have to do our business quietly without appearing on anybody’s radar! If you have to vent, do it anonymously. When your livelihood is at stake, do you really want to be a hero? So much for principles!

  • jrscholar

    Then create an honor council system that is in charge of adjudicating these sorts of things.  I taught at a liberal arts college where this was in effect.  Faculty were required to turn over any accusations of plagiarism to the council.  It worked.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Nuckolls/100001571701477 Bob Nuckolls

    How can any cut-n-paste action be unintentional? The act of hitting Control-C is a very deliberate activity designed to lift some collection of data for the purpose of depositing it elsewhere.  Are we to assume that a student may be so engrossed in their endeavors that they are unaware that they’ve cut out a collection of words that they did not write themselves?

  • berenson

    At my institution we exclude students with academic integrity code violations by restricting their access to the evaluation form (which is completed electronically). Anonymity of evaluations is fully maintained.

  • dirigo1

    I flunk cheaters.  Simple and correct.  Tell them at the beginning of the semester that cheating will result in an F for the course.  This kind of waffling on honesty creates Wall Street Bankers and destroys public trust.  Administrations that tolerate cheating are creating an atmosphere that will suffocate our Republic.

  • jrscholar

    That was my first thought: you get salary increases?  Perhaps that’s why I have been feeling more free to be a hard-ass.

  • mmj2820

    Rather than policing my students, I have them check their own originality reports, make corrections if necessary, and resubmit their papers. Of course I look at the final reports, but this way Turnitin becomes another learning tool for my students, and I am not a policeman. I’ve been using Turnitin this way for many years. It works.

  • cdwickstrom

    If 22 of 27 students in an introductory IT course are cheating, the pressure is to “cheat”, not to engage in “honest” learning activity.  That statistic argues largely that a “culture of cheating” may exist within the Stern School, which is reinforced by other comments in the article.  Wall Street, here they come. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Antsy-Kuhnwisse/100002159499682 Antsy Kuhnwisse

    The issue is not that students have the right to use someone else’s work, but that Turnitin doesn’t either (by collecting and storing these papers for its own financial gain, and possibly against the wishes of the author).

  • richardtaborgreene

    1) student evaluations are despicable and the American mania for them is despicable, and the Americans who excuse the American mania for them are, in my opinion, despicable.   
    2) the lust to undermine ALL authority in society—some sort of swamp of soupy emotions perhaps—is suicide
    3) THAT SAID, it is rather easy to think up assignments that cannot be cheated on—present a case that no one ever published before and combinations of frameworks/analyses to apply to it that no one ever knew or published before, and just the quality of application along a dozen criteria no one ever published before—–the poor little darlings can click and click and click and click and google up NOTHING remotely relevant—better yet, like MIT, give 3 hour live exams with no devices of any sort allowed (except medical and THEY get inspected).   
    4) finally it is better to promote cheating—competent people are our future competitors and cheating makes them weaker competitors, hence increases faculty income—let them cheat all they want, the little darlings.  

  • jason1971

    Nor does Podunk Junior College offer tenure

  • activelylearningtolearn

    You’re mistaking “intentional cut-in-paste” with “intentional plagiarism.” Sometimes students cut-in-paste, put quotes around the passage, and then move text around during the revision process and lose track of the quotation marks. Sometimes students change only the specific words because they don’t understand that you can plagiarize ideas, syntax, or even sequence. Sometimes students believe that changing a word or two is paraphrasing — and they include a reference only in the bibliography because they don’t understand how to attribute credit. Sometimes students mention the author somewhere else in the paragraph in such a way that the reader can’t tell that the reference is not just for that sentence but rather the whole paragraph or even group of paragraphs. Sometimes students think if they mention the author anywhere in the essay, they can include passages from that author. Sometimes students have heard of the word “plagiarism” but no one has bothered to explain the term at all, let alone in detail with exercises to practice before being held accountable.

  • rosescarlet

    Maybe if we focused on honor and honesty and what we WANT, instead of the cheating that we don’t want, that would change the atmosphere in the classroom. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pornapum-Pumaporn/100001581239121 Pornapum Pumaporn

    so much one can say, from student to institution. But it seems one can safely add that NYU attorneys throwing up the fear of liability matches the students cheating and their fear of failure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Antsy-Kuhnwisse/100002159499682 Antsy Kuhnwisse

    Seemed to me that this professor was far more upset about the adversarial relationship his policy created with his students, and the idea of teachers *in general* being punished — by their own institutions, yet — for enforcing the rules.  The crummy raise he got was worth mentioning as a part — but perhaps a minor part — of the problem.

  • tenn8

    i am not defending cheating, or taking others work, in fact i find it disgusting and immature.  but one bit of irony in all this is that once these students move on to jobs, they will learn that using others ideas is acceptable and often rewarded.  and “giving credit where credit is due” is not necessary. 

  • greeneyeshade

    It is distressing to realize how many decisions that are contrary to a university’s best interests are driven by advice coming out of legal counsel’s office.

    Methinks Shakespeare was right.

  • interface

    If you have spent any time in academia and have a head, you know how hypocritical it is for any academic administrator to take a stance against student cheating because “we’re preparing them to practice ethical behavior.”  He wouldn’t be in his position without being fully aware of the many instances in which administrators, board of trustees, and faculty were — how shall we say it? — less than honest.  Or just plain got away with murder.

    And can we say that the national events of the past 3 – 4 years alone have proven such efforts to be an epic fail?  So why not stop kidding ourselves. A rising percentage of students are going to find a way to cheat their way through college.  It’s pathological with them.  Institutions should either give it up or find the courage to take enforcement out of individual professors’ hands (except for reporting) and apply consequences fairly and impartially.  But because this would involve kicking out legacies and riling up alumni donors, it will never happen.
     

  • 12080243

    As noted in other comments, and I agree, plagiarism is a complex issue. As important, and probably more complex, is how universities handle accusations of plagiarism. Research on administrators and colleagues’ behavior when dealing with misconduct is available online at the Social Science Research Network. See, “Is Accreditation a Reliable Authority of Academic Quality?” and “University and AACSB Diversity.” (http://ssrn.com/author=397169.)

    “Is Accreditation a Reliable Authority on Academic Quality” Abstract: During preparations for reaccreditation, a colleague noticed that the College Accreditation Committee represented other Colleges’ documents as their own. He consulted several faculty including this researcher. We advised the Dean and Committee that the documents were without attribution. The events were immediately identified as an opportunity to test social reality – the reliability – of institutions’ and leaders’ behavior vis-à-vis the institution’s representations. (See, “A General Theory to Test Social Reality.”)

    The Dean and Committee members ignored requests to discuss the copied documents. Subsequently, the Dean submitted the questionable materials to the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business (AACSB) during reaccreditation. After internal efforts, both informal and formal, to discuss the documents failed, faculty informed the AACSB that the documents were copied “without proper citation” – a term used by faculty who copied other
    school’s documents. The actions of the AACSB inform their constituency and public of a neglected dimension of accreditation: What does the AACSB do when challenged with evidence of alleged violations of its standards? In other words, is the AACSB a reliable authority on academic quality?

    Faculty and administrators had choices of well-known university and accreditation principles and rules to follow or refuse to follow as the events unfolded. The choices and evidence in this report support the conclusion that accreditation is not a reliable authority on academic quality.

    Related research includes: “A General Theory to Test Social Reality” and “University and AACSB Diversity” also available online from the Social Science Research Network: See, http://ssrn.com/author=397169.

    Chauncey M. DePree, Jr., DBA, Professor, School of Accountancy, College of Business, University of Southern Mississippi, m.depree@usm.edu

  • jefftylerpmp

    It’s much easier to control plagarism in quantitative courses.  The instructor merely changes the values of the variables in each successive class.  When assignments from previous classes are turned in and graded according to outcomes based rubrics (objectively), the student fails.  Then the student comes to the instructors asking the questions and the instructor has the opportunity to show how the answers are incorrect, never pointing out that the student was cheating and turning the ethical issue into a learning issue with consequences and numerous options going forward.

  • changinggears

    I gave up trying to chase plagiarism when I had a student submit not one but four plagiarized essays in a row.  Each time I gave the student a zero and submitted the required paperwork for violating the honor policy.  The student was never disciplined in any official way and when I requested that the student be removed from my class (which according to my uni’s honor policy is a potential consquence of dishonesty), I was told that I would have to allow the student to remain in the class.  If there are no consequences, then what’s the point?  Even if I give students a zero on an assignment, they don’t see that as an incentive to not do it again if they can plagiarize in other classes (or even in the same class) and no pattern is officially recorded.

  • nickhaydock

    The easiest solution to this would be evident were the chief problem not also being forced to function as a remedy. Remember paper and pencils? In class examinations?

  • johmcl

    in proving your point, the service academies and cooper union seem to care very little about student bliss. reliance on tuition revenue has made other institutions subject to the whims of their consumers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=551702360 Genevieve McBride

    Actually, I found that part of his essay (which still can be found online, where it was cut and pasted!) more than a little appalling.   There is no question in any of many institutions where I have taught — private, public, large, small — that cutting and pasting without quotation marks and attribution and citations is, to use his term, the most blatant form of plagiarism.  So that part of his essay may suggest that the problem may have been lack
    of clarity, on the part of the prof and thus in communicating to
    students, just what is plagiarism.

    I also must note that the statement that not only receiving tenure did the prof pay attention to the possibility of plagiarisim also is appalling.  That also suggests that the high incidence of plagiarism when he did pay attention to it may have been the result of word getting out among students that a lot got past this guy for at least six years.

  • bernie2012

    As an undergraduate at an “elite institution”, I think I understand what you’re saying, but I’m kind of convinced that they don’t work to measure teaching quality.  I notice that the bar could go pretty low in the arena of teaching quality as long as a professor is “cool”, easy, or entertaining.  In these cases, they will still get a reasonable to high evaluation and students will continually flock to the class.  A rather weak introductory biology professor comes to mind.  His teaching and lecturing is inferior to the other professors, but since he gives easier exams, he gets the highest enrollment and people just tolerate it (some of the better lecturers don’t even enroll close to the maximum number of seats allotted because this professor voluntarily overloads students into his class even though he knows space is available in the others).  I can name many more cases.  Again, there seems as if there has to be some magical threshold needed for students to actually mostly judge based upon what they learned or the quality of the instruction in context of the material supposedly being conveyed.  Either the teaching quality is really, really high, in which case the professor can be fairly difficult and strict and still get good evaluations, or it really, really low, in which case their evaluations finally take a hit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Nuckolls/100001571701477 Bob Nuckolls

    Acceptable . .. rewarded?  Are you suggesting that those who offer acceptance and reward are aware of some dishonorable behavior . . . and it doesn’t matter?  The idea suggests further than those who dispense acceptance and reward are so unaware of state-of-the-art in their field that they do not spot a plagiarized idea.

    Ideas fall into two categories. Simple-ideas are fundamental truths. They have always existed. Some not yet discovered, some forgotten and waiting to be discovered again. They do not “belong” to any individual . . . like the lever, the wheel and inclined plane, they simply are. Then there are recipes for success . . . assemblages of simple-ideas into higher order conveniences. Of course, those ideas are unique to the designer but even then, how many different ways can one assemble, say a dog house, with a hammer, nails and collection of boards? Is it not likely that some assemblages of simple-ideas are repeated many times over by the independent thoughts of many individuals?

    I have been retired from a 40+ year career as an assembler of simple-ideas into useful conveniences. I’ve worked for dozens of companies and yes, some of the products I designed were based on ‘ideas for design’ taken from publications wherein I did not, nor was I expected to cite the article(s) which aided me in my work. But those ideas were published for the purpose of spreading knowledge. Knowledge is one of the few commodities that grows in value the more it is shared. Is this not what YOU do in your classroom . . . add value to the sum total of your own knowledge by sharing?”

    When I used or expanded upon an idea shared, I was validating work-product which was offered for the purpose of helping me (and thousands of other readers) advance the state of their art. My understanding of the original work was demonstrated by the degree to which the new product was successful. I’ve published many thousands of words hoping they make life better for the readers . . . and it matters not whether they attribute the success of their own work product in part to me . . . that’s what teaching is all about.

    For the student, the paper IS the end product. It’s not going to get tested in a competitive free market for performance. The goal is to demonstrate to the teacher that the student has acquired a useful command of the subject material. The student must demonstrate an ability to articulate original thought based upon the ideas offered by yourself and others.  It is further expected that the student say, “I assembled ideas A, B, C, D and E from sources F, G, H, I, and J as follows:” That IS the assignment. Failure to cite is an obfuscation of real achievement by which both you and the student are judged.

  • dr_g_hurd

    I have a really simple solution. I had it 15 years ago, and I used it in my courses.

    1) Make one very clear statement in the syllabus, and first class; that plagiarism is a particular issue with me, and I will flunk your ass out of my class.

    2) A daily homework assignment is not worth the bother, and I was only
    focused on term papers, or the (rare) extra credit essays I would allow.

    3) If a student turned in a paper I suspected was plagiarized, I would interview the student with the Dean, or Dept. Chair, or another professor present. The interview would be an oral quiz on the topic of the paper. If the student was totally familiar with all the details of the submitted paper, they got a pass, else they failed the course. I taught content, not creative writing. If the student was merely putting their name to someone else’s paper, or an Internet download, they never knew the content.

  • jcking75

    Who are you to evaluate this?  That’s his point.  If you are not a teaching professional, then you are not qualified to determine effective teaching methods.

  • jamesebryan

    Here’s a somewhat confessional comment to this story – I don’t claim that it makes me seem admirable to my colleagues, but just want to put it forth for some reason.

    First, in terms of sympathizing with Dr. Ipeirotis, I find some merit in his consideration of how his pursuit of cheaters colors his relationship with his other students and sours the atmosphere of his classroom, but I’m not so moved by the financial “hardship” he “suffered.”  I realize his salary should not be influenced by the opinions of cheating students (if it was), and I realize it’s petty of me to feel this way, but as someone working in a system that hasn’t given raises in years, has rescinded promised raises before they went into effect, and now has employees pay for benefits that used to be part of their compensation, my heart doesn’t exactly bleed for someone whose annual raise wasn’t as big as it used to be.  I know I’m playing right into the haves’ plan of pitting the have-nots against each other when I feel that way, but I just can’t help myself.

    Second, here’s my favorite “can-you-believe-it” student-plagiarism war story.  A few years back one student turned in exactly the same term paper that her roommate did the semester before, which would not be so remarkable except that the term paper in question was a D-, and had been returned to her roommate covered in red ink explaining all its many flaws.  Since the paper began with a statement of completely irrelevant trivia so far away from the point of the assignment as to be astonishing, I remembered the earlier version immediately.  Punishing her by assigning a zero for the term paper hardly changed the semester grade she would have received had I not caught her.

  • mam5mc

    As a magazine editor, I can attest to the fact that it would be a nightmare to have to track the person’s credentials down every time you used a name. Very few  people sign their names “XXX, Ph.D.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anne-Walinskas-Newman/22912751 Anne Walinskas Newman

    Interesting…

  • sand6432

    All I can say is, if these students who cheated are this stupid when they know their essays will be subject to such scrutiny through Turnitin, whop is ever going to hire them? In a tight job market, they have forfeited any chance of getting a good job by engaging in such reprehensible conduct.

  • drjeff

    There’s a terribly simple solution for evaluating about half of the student-hours spent in class, that is, the large multi-section classes.  We used it in the high school where I taught (briefly): for every major student evaluation, use the same one for all sections.  Either rotate authorship (that’s what we did — each chapter’s test was written by one of us), or have each person write one section of the test, or collaborate on the whole thing, if that floats your boat. 

    Then, it’s terribly easy to evaluate teaching effectiveness, independent of how much the students like the teacher.  If you want to really do it right, you can compare the students’ grades in this class to their average grades, so a teacher who has a below-average class doesn’t get penalized.

    (I’m thinking of my first semester teaching, when one of my classes had the same average grade as my mentor teacher’s, a fact of which I was very proud, until I learned that the class was comprised mostly of kids who would have been in AP except for a scheduling snafu.)

    Of course, this does require whoever’s writing the test (unless you all collaborate) to have it done at the beginning of each unit.

  • bernie2012

    lol,  I know 2 organic chemistry professors here at Emory who give such difficult exams that they can pretty safely leave the room (they do, their exams are like 2.5-3.5 hours) w/o worrying about cheating.  I took one of them, and I swear that when you begin the exam, you’re too blown away or nervous about the difficulty to even consider anyone else in the room.  You tend to just zone in on your own test and perhaps sit starring at a problem for 10-15 minutes.  That’s a key benefit to designing a high level exam w/o multiple choice questions or easy identification questions.  The effect may be the same in a humanities/social science course if exams were only essay or a mixture of short answer and essay.  My organic chemistry professor for the most part gave applied “think outside of the box” problems where perhaps multiple answers could explain something, and thus when exams were returned, answers varied dramatically (even among those who received near to full credit) as expected.

  • http://twitter.com/teclordphrack2 aaron burns

    If he would of kept up his policy for  2 or 3 years it would of sunk in to the student body and the school as a whole would of been better. As it stands now cheating won. You always get hit with the chop when you make ways but in the end you make headway.

  • darccity

    What’s a salary increase? Or perhaps you’re teachings at a place where promotions to Full do not require an “international research reputation in your field.”

    In any case, I doubt the newly-tenured faculty member about who this article is written really knows why his raise was so tiny. Chairs and deans always make sure the supporting verbiage in an annual evaluation is vague enough to avoid groups for a grievance or suit.

  • green_hornist

    I have never understood why professors have so much trouble dealing with cheating.  Whenever I got a plagiarized paper, I just gave it an F because in my judgment it was “poor quality.”  I never had a student with enough chutzpah to challenge my grade when he knew perfectly well he would have to defend a plagiarized paper.  Worked every time.

  • http://twitter.com/youngshay112 Shannon Johnson

    I feel bad for this guy. He had to be an enforcer rather than a teacher. So far, none of my clients have been caught cheating. I think as far as business school students needing to deal with the real world, the first rule of the real world seems to be outsourcing things you’re not good at. 

  • http://twitter.com/youngshay112 Shannon Johnson

    When I was a freshman, my teacher called me out for plagiarism (I’d dropped a citation). I think he did it because he knew I was pretty smart and was disappointed. I defended myself and he actually raised my grade. Has anything similar happened with your students?

  • dr_g_hurd

    “Mr. Ipeirotis, a computer scientist who teaches in NYU’s Stern School of Business,”

    This seems to be the problem right here. Why bother to try and reform cheating in a business school? It is their major specialty!

  • http://twitter.com/youngshay112 Shannon Johnson

    How are students not capable of evaluating teaching? If my teacher is disorganized, confused, bored with her own content, and doesn’t give me any information I couldn’t get out of the textbook, she’s not a very good teacher. I’m 25 and just starting college. I think I know what I want to get out of it, and I don’t think that every student just thinks good teachers are easy teachers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Yost/783514850 Don Yost

    Read Pgs. 225-226 (Volume 1) of Mark Twain’s Autobiography regarding his alleged plagiarism of Oliver Weldell Holmes’s work in Twain’s dedication of “Innocents Abroad”:

    “Dr. Holmes laughed the kindest and healingest laugh over the whole matter, and at  considerable length and in happy phrase assured me  that there was no crime in unconscious plagiarism; that I committed it every day, that he committed it every day, that every man on earth who writes or speaks commits it every day and not merely once or twice but every time he opens his mouth; that all our phrasings are spiritualized shadows cast multitudinously from our readings; that no happy phrase of ours is ever quite original with us, there is nothing of our own in it except some slight change born of our temperament, character, environment, teachings and associations; that the slightest change differentiates it from another man’s  manner of saying it, stamps it with our special style, and  makes it our own for the time being; all the rest of it being old, mouldy, antique, and smelling of the breath of a thousand generations of them that have passed it over their teeth before!” 

  • rackaway

    It also speaks to Professor Ipeirotis’ supervisors, likely his department chair and/or dean.  If you are a chair or dean doing merit pay evaluations and all you use are student satisfaction measures, I think it’s fair to call you lazy.  We know student satisfaction evaluations (students cannot measure their own learning while a class is going on, so all we can measure is satisfaction) are imperfect and incomplete measures of teaching performance.  But supervisors still use them and often exclusively.  This is an administrative failure at its core.  NYU needs to include peer or supervisor evaluations to provide a more complete performance picture.  But as long as student satisfaction is the primary incentive driver for faculty pay and performance, Profesor Ipeirotis’ strategy is the proper one, unfortunately. 

  • darccity

    Student evals at most universities are worse than worthless. The questions don’t apply to the course or pedagogy you are using. Students don’t take them seriously. The nonresponse bias is often enormous. Students are asked questions they cannot possibly answer, equivalent to asking “of all the times I’ve taken this course, …” Instead, they compare it with other course material, often in other disciplines. Most of the problem is that evaluations are drafted as if the students are customers rather than raw material inputs in a production process.

    Instead, we need to require a combination of visitation by outside pedagogical experts (the way schools are finally being forced to do), senior faculty mentoring of younger faculty, assessment of specific learning outcomes, NSSE surveys, and measures of success of graduates.

    On the other hand, there is great value for the system in place at Harvard where the student association surveys and distributes to the students the evaluations of all profs. Finally, chairs and senior faculty are often jealous of younger faculty who pal around with or are popular with students. Thus, he may be wise to not get evals that are too good.

  • bpoch

    Fran Leibowitz offered the comment, “Original thought is like Original Sin. Both happened before you were born to people you could not possibly have met”. I still think it is hilarious, but only as satire. It shouldn’t be taken as a reson to just give up the demand for integrity and standards.

    Some of the comments posted and the underlying anger at students and instituions is as disturbing as the prevalence of plagiarism. Many, not all students, have been rewarded or at least not caught during years of this behavior. It took a lot of A grades to get to Stern as it does for other top rated institutions, whatever the merit of rankings. The cheaters and plagiarists aren’t just moving on to the Enrons of the world,but unfortunately, to countless organizations. The social costs of letting them slide by or further rewarding bad ethics is huge. We have paid that cost many times over in recent years.

  • darccity

    Unforfunately, when I consult or do pro bono work for business and local government, the use of the title “Dr.” typically indicates derision or at least utter dismissal of your comments as ivory tower isolation and theoretical mumbo jumbo disconnected from reality. I know I’ve finally reached legitimacy and acceptance when they start calling me by my first name in informal discussions.

    On the other hand, there’s also zillions of doctorates in education that most universities hand out like candy to university, jr. college, and high school administrators who need that Dr. in front of their name. The quality of those doctoral programs is an order of magnitude below most decent masters degrees — what a sham!

  • thedoctorisin

    Really? You mean it might actually require fact checking?  Oh, the horrors!

  • Larthia

    The man is a professor at NYU. It takes 2 seconds to Google someone to learn their proper title. Anyway, it should have been easy enough to ascertain in the interview with the man. The appropriate title for someone with a doctorate is “Dr.” and it should be used.

  • snapcase

    Mr. Ipeirotis seems to place too much emphasis on his own happiness.  Who ever said that teaching should be “refreshing?”  There is too much hand-holding and “bright-sidedness” – to use Barbara Ehrenreich’s term – in American higher education.  Education shouldn’t be painful or degrading, but it shouldn’t be akin to a summer jaunt through the park either.

    I think he’s a bit of a whiner and sycophant who is afraid to stand up for what is right.

  • snapcase

    Mr. Ipeirotis seems to place too much emphasis on his own happiness.  Who ever said that teaching should be “refreshing?”  There is too much hand-holding and “bright-sidedness” – to use Barbara Ehrenreich’s term – in American higher education.  Education shouldn’t be painful or degrading, but it shouldn’t be akin to a summer jaunt through the park either.

    I think he’s a bit of a whiner and sycophant who is afraid to stand up for what is right.

  • prof_z_haque

    I sincerely appreciate Prof. Ipeirotis for his sincere endeavours to containing cheating by students. Cheating is a global problem. Perhaps www has widen the scope for cheating because a student can get a lot of alternatives to copy from. Meanwhile what I feel or often allow my students is to copy from resources when the assignment is a dummy one, i.e. learning some system or process, of course by duly acknowledging authors/materials. But at post graduate level I always put emphasis on orginal work taking references from web and books. In fact, the matter is rather complicated and often conflicting with university’s interests.
    Professor M Zahidul Haque
    Dhaka, Bangladesh.

  • green_hornist

    Not in so many words, because, as I said, I never accused a student of cheating.  The students simply took their medicine and, maybe, learned from it.

    What was your defense when you “defended yourself?”  Obviously it worked.

  • abrower1234

    I find it interesting that the administrator said, “Moreover, the course evaluation input of any student who has an honor
    code infraction is removed from consideration when evaluating teaching
    performance.”  I wonder how NYU accomplishes this:  at most universities I am familiar with, student teaching evaluations are anonymous.

  • careydp

    I recently read a quote from Upton Sinclair from about 1935–I think–that I couldn’t help but associate with student evaluations and merit raises for faculty.  I’ll have to paraphrase, but it goes something like this: It’s hard to get someone to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.  We all know there is a direct correlation to what a student expects to earn “gradewise” in a certain class and that student’s perception of the instructor.  That isn’t true in every case, but it also isn’t an over-generalization.  Thus, the “accountability” factor looms large in the course of grade inflation.

  • http://behind-the-enemy-lines.com/ Panos Ipeirotis

    I am absolutely fine with the term “Mr. Ipeirotis” :-)

  • frankgado

    Unfortunately, there is nothing new in NYU’s practice.I had a colleague at Union College who was indefatigable in his pursuit of plagiarists. The dean backed the plagiarists, so my friend stopped assigning papers and instead started giving map quizzes. This was over 40 years ago. I had a similar experience when I caught boyfriend and girlfriend cheating on a test. Their defense was that they had almost identical essays because they had studied together. The dean bought it.

    Equally evil is the determination of teaching quality through use of student evaluations. Many of my colleagues used different means of excluding unfavorable survey results. When I complained to the dean, nothing was done about it. I then refused to participate in a corrupt (and corrupting) process. For the next 16 years (the remainder of my career), I received no merit raises, although I had received such raises every previous year. 

  • http://behind-the-enemy-lines.com/ Panos Ipeirotis

    I am absolutely fine with the term “Mr. Ipeirotis” :-)

  • jffoster

    Do you intend implying that unlike Ph. D.’s  M D’s tend to sign their name .___  ___, M D even when what they’re signing has nothing whatever to do with the practice of medicine, their profession, or general public health? 

  • bernie2012

    Well, that’s personally how I rate professors “when” I rate them (normally, I leave shortly after the professor leaves the room after distributing evaluations because I know how useless they are. If there is no written evaluation to be done, I will leave.  I refuse to just bubble in a bunch of ratings from 1-10). However, what I find is that many students like professors that do not go beyond their powerpoint slides or the textbook.  Going beyond these could actually result in lower ratings. Also, going beyond those is often viewed as a form of disorganization by many students.  Basically, if they can’t simply read the book to understand the material for an “exam” (this implies that it is in the professor’s best interest to tailor the lectures to the exams only and nothing less and certainly nothing more lest it be found random or irrelevant. The same could be said about the tests. Tests that involve extrapolation/application beyond “exactly” what was presented verbatim in lecture or homework problems could earn a professor lower ratings).  Then the professor “isn’t organized” or “doesn’t have good flow” or is “random” and “unfair”.  So in this case, disorganization is defined quite differently from how you or I would define it. 
    As for confused or bored.  The effects of that could be mitigated as long as the professor gives easy exams.

  • http://behind-the-enemy-lines.com/ Panos Ipeirotis

    Correct.

    In fact, after reflecting on this point, I realized the following: Even if I had received a $100K bonus for my efforts, the basic problem would still be there: the teaching experience would degenerate into a witch hunt.

    The best parallel that I could find is the following:

    Suppose that you have a city with a huge parking problem. People try to find parking and they drive around. Some, get frustrated and they double park. Some drivers are stupid enough to double park during rush hour and leave the car unattended: the police arrives and assigns a ticket to the offender.  But many double park during quiet hours, and try to be discreet about that. 

    Suddenly, in one neighborhood only, call it A, a lone policeman starts assigning tickets for every such violation. By doing that, the policeman assigned 10 times more tickets that before but also lost countless hours fighting with the drivers, and also neglected other duties. His annual evaluation is therefore average. 

    He discusses the overall experience, and vows never to be so vigilant about parking tickets. He will be as vigilant as all the other policemen. 

    Instead, our policeman suggests that we need to do something about the parking problem: He suggests that people could carpool, use bicycles, mass transit, or simply walk. And he asks for people to think of more such alternatives.

    The media reaction? 
    * “Parking-related violations skyrocket in the neighborhood. Policeman punished for enforcing the rules”
    * “Haha, that neighborhood A sucks. But only scumbags live in that neighborhood, what did you expect? Any lawful behavior?”
    * “Why the government does not reward this policeman?”
    * “Why this policeman is vowing not to obey the law? Oh the society…”

    and nobody pays any attention to the underlying problem.

    This is exactly how this discussion evolved in the media. Instead of focusing on how to make student evaluation objective and cheating-proof, we are focusing on whether my salary went sufficiently up or not. This is not the main point. It was worth mentioning (or perhaps it was not) but it was, indeed, a minor part of the problem.

  • cb_10

    Some thoughts (FWIW):

    1) Student evaluations are a tool, like any other evaluative tool. The harm is not in using them (and getting a perspective outside the department’s) but in overrelying on them. They, peer review, and otehr such evaluations should be used in context. There’s no perfect system, but if the professor in the article is correct, someone at NYU overreacted to the evaluations without making the connection with the plagiarism issue. Of course, the other possibility is that pay increases at NYU are down. Not enough info here to judge.

    2) There is a serious problem with academic dishonesty in education, period. The answer is not to look the other way or retreat. The answer is to get serious about confirming student work and defending the integrity of the course work. This takes commitment from both faculty and administration. I read an article a few years ago that indicated that a sizeable percentage of faculty don’t follow the institutional regulations for dealing with plagiarism. The NYU story indicates that administration are squishy on the subject. But the consequences of a soft line on academic dishonesty are a diminished school reputation (word of mouth gets around), and a class of professionals who are undereducated and underqualified for the degrees they hold. Our integrity should outweigh our self-interest. Isn’t that what this issue is about?

    3) There’s no perfect solution for preventing cheating. I agree that it’s important to design learning that minimizes dishonesty, but we can’t rely on that to solve the problem. Cheaters are like spyware and virus writers. They are trying to stay ahead of our defenses. We need to design classes that reward individualized work, structure activities so that students build on previous work (and thus have to demonstrate mastery of knowledge as they proceed), identify and punish cheaters consistently, and – probably most important of all – reinforce a culture where cheating is shameful and unacceptable.

    Cheaters should be pariahs on campuses. Instead, all too frequently, they’re members in good standing of the campus community. I’m all for redemption and giving people a chance to turn things around, but education first has to show that we believe there’s a real problem. Many educators recognize this, but we need a consistent gameplan.

  • Heliodor Jalba

    My physics teacher said it well, “Just because I have a PhD doesn’t make me a better mister.” There are plenty of people out there doing much more important things than my physics teacher, and they don’t have PhDs. 

    If I create a university that has a degree one higher than a PhD, can we stop calling PhDs doctors? Why don’t we have titles for people who complete a masters degree or a bachelors? Why don’t we have titles for people who have a million dollars in the bank? Why don’t we have titles for people who turn 90?

    In the end, titles are just a gender indicator and associated data like marital status. Let’s keep it simple.

  • http://twitter.com/MakeCollegePay MakingCollegePay

    Boy, this article sure has touched off several interesting threads of chats!

    I had a similar experience with using Turnitin and enforcing an honor policy. In addition, I teach a senior capstone class (in business strategy) and my enforcement prevented the students in question from graduating that semester.  I enforced the penalty and took a hit on the teaching evals.  I didn’t get a raise….but no one else did either – budget cuts!

    However, now the rest of the story.   I have not changed my policy and still use Turnitin (which I REALLY like for the Grademark function as well).  The word got around among the students.  I also tell the students at the beginning of each semester the story of “the students who didn’t graduate”.  Guess what…after one more semester of holding the line, I haven’t had any similar problems.  I still have to stay one step ahead of the students to emphasize that they use proper citation and appropriate sources, BUT….wholesale plagiarism of others’ work is currently contained.  Obviously Turnitin and I can’t catch everything, but they have to work a lot harder to avoid detection.  

    BTW, I try to avoid creating an adversarial climate on this in my initial conversation.  In addition to discussing this a an issue of professionalism, I also ask them if they would like their grandmother to be treated by a surgeon who cheated on his medical exams.  Students have a very high regard for their grandmothers! :)  

  • jeffstevens61

    I am a high school teacher who is consistently appalled with the primitive nature of the discussions about cheating in the Chronicle. My colleagues who give multiple choice tests regularly write at least two versions of a test (some times 4 or 5  for students at lab tables) for each class, mixing them up by row so that kids choose the wrong answers by cheating. I use Turnitin for all assignments in my AP American History classes so that the kids who copy from each other are exposed along with the kids who copy from the internet or common sources from a text or library book. The kids who write the assignments themselves are consistently free of plagiarism. Sometimes common phrases come up when kids use internet sources, so less than 20% from the web is an acceptable number. In term papers or long essays the same applies, but I accept no long quotes — more than ten words or so. It is necessary to prevent plagiarism because the kids have nearly always gotten away with it. Group projects graded by kids is a failure of responsibility of the teacher. I never grade group work, it is invariably the product of only a few students out of the group. You will find that the smartest kids hate group work. See what happens when you break kids into groups in your class: watch their faces.They are the ones who do the work. If you want to find out who copied from the past semester, just use Turnitin. In class writing reduces cheating.

    If it affects your ability to teach, then deal with it.Learn to be a teacher, not a friend. Give kids an an  initial second chance: they are not used to being found out. Teaching is not talking or modelling. Teaching is communication and intellectual stimulation that produces real learning not make believe.
    Jeff Schneider

  • kerryking

    My solution to the plagiarism issue is this: assign books that have been published in the last year or two and make up exams that force students to synthesize information from the lecture and reading. This makes coming to class essential and makes it impossible to cheat. For instance I taught a course on the Reformation and assigned the Martin Marprelate Tracts (first modern edition in a 100 years). It was a difficult assignment (they had no internet to fall back on) but from the student evals it was also a fulfilling one. Lots said the exams were hard but forced them to keep up with the weekly reading. Assigning recent books has the added benefit of keeping us up with new literature and our courses “fresh”.

  • Hippopotamax

    There are 10,400 free full-text books discussing Martin Marprelate available on Google Books . . .  

  • drnels

    I’m not sure how this would help in the computer science class described here.

  • jeffkaron

    Dear Dr. Ipeirotis (do you go by “Panos”?):

    I want to thank you for your honesty in bringing up the whole issue–and it bears constant discussion.

    Some years ago, I was unhappy at becoming a cyber-cop, which, as you clearly describe, sets up a poor relationship with students.  So I changed how I handled plagiarism discussions (during my first year teaching as an assistant professor at a private university, one composition class had at least 12 cheaters).  During the first week of class, students check out a few websites about plagiarism written by teachers for teachers; they take notes for brief presentations.  Then they follow out links to find free papers on a subject that interests them–they bring physical copies to class.

    Students make very brief presentations on what they found: inevitably, papers are either poorly written (and students are great at pointing out the defects) or they are written much too well.  The assignment makes the (implicit) point that the teacher already is familiar withweb plagiarism and other types of misconduct.  Students do the research and lead the discussion.  The result: reduced cheating and a positive atmosphere.

    I’ve been trying to help other teachers institute a more constructive, positive approach for some time–this one really works.  And you can tailor it to your subject area easily.

    Best,

    Jeff

    Jeff Karon

    Visiting instructor, the University of South Florida
    Owner, The Honorable Classroom and The Honorable Workplace

  • jeffkaron

    On whether dealing with cheating is “exhausting”:

    It sure is.  A formal accusation of academic dishonesty sets in motion a school’s judicial procedures, as well it should.  Students deserve to have their reputations and rights protected, too.  However, the time commitment for the teacher can be quite daunting–and the whole process is dispiriting for everyone (I’ve been in situations where I was fully supported by administrations and one in which I was not–but they all are dispiriting).

    So there’s a problem–rather than spin in place, my philosophy is to solve it, if possible.  I have one approach.  I’m sure that there are others that work, too, approaches that strengthen students and teachers.  We should work with what we have, not the world we wish we had.

    The most frequently cited reason for plagiarism, even among honors students: it was easy.  This is human nature.

  • sant0844

    It’s obvious that junior faculty and senior faculty have their performance in evals tied to whether or not they chase down cheating. If departmental chairs and admin won’t back faculty up, then profs won’t punish cheating. The problem is, the Internet is enabling cheating and making it worse with every passing hour.

    Given that universities won’t uphold their own standards against faculty-found plagiarism, you need to separate faculty popularity and evaluations from the issue of plagiarism.

    I realize that this would add another level of inefficiency and problems, but if schools set up cheating bureau through which all assignments were run (say, by using algorithms which scan for identical documents on the internet and using a body of previously turned in papers) before they even get to the prof for grading.  The assignments would have to be turned in digitally.  And the bureaux would preferably be cooperative ventures between different universities. In this way, if a student was found cheating, it would have nothing to do with the professor.  The paper would have been pre-screened before it even got to the professor.

    The only alternative is to NOT penalize faculty for punishing cheaters and plagiarists. Good luck with that one, especially with junior faculty who have little enough security as it is.  Their response will simply be what Ipeirotis said – they won’t bother because no one is going to lose their job in this climate for the sake of an abstract idea that higher university authorities don’t have the guts to enforce.

  • sant0844

    It’s obvious that junior faculty and senior faculty have their performance in evals tied to whether or not they chase down cheating. If departmental chairs and admin won’t back faculty up, then profs won’t punish cheating. The problem is, the Internet is enabling cheating and making it worse with every passing hour.

    Given that universities won’t uphold their own standards against faculty-found plagiarism, you need to separate faculty popularity and evaluations from the issue of plagiarism.

    I realize that this would add another level of inefficiency and problems, but if schools set up cheating bureaux through which all assignments were run (say, by using algorithms which scan for identical documents on the internet and using a body of previously turned in papers) before they even get to the prof for grading, then cheating detection would be separated from evals.  The assignments would have to be turned in digitally.  And the bureaux would preferably cooperate between different universities. In this way, if a student was found cheating, it would have nothing to do with the professor.  The paper would have been pre-screened before it even got to the professor.

    The only alternative is NOT to penalize faculty for punishing cheaters and plagiarists. Good luck with that one, especially with junior faculty who have little enough security as it is.  Their response will simply be what Ipeirotis said – they won’t bother because no one is going to lose their job in this climate for the sake of an abstract idea that higher university authorities don’t have the guts to enforce – but should.

  • sant0844

    It’s obvious that junior faculty and senior faculty have their performance in evals tied to whether or not they chase down cheating. If departmental chairs and admin won’t back faculty up, then profs won’t punish cheating. The problem is, the Internet is enabling cheating and making it worse with every passing hour.
    Given that universities won’t uphold their own standards against faculty-found plagiarism, you need to separate faculty popularity and evaluations from the issue of plagiarism.
    I realize that this would add another level of inefficiency and problems, but if schools set up cheating bureaux through which all assignments were run (say, by using algorithms which scan for identical documents on the internet and using a body of previously turned in papers) before they even get to the prof for grading, then cheating detection would be separated from evals.  The assignments would have to be turned in digitally.  And the bureaux would preferably cooperate between different universities. In this way, if a student was found cheating, it would have nothing to do with the professor.  The paper would have been pre-screened before it even got to the professor.
    The only alternative is NOT to penalize faculty for punishing cheaters and plagiarists. Good luck with that one, especially with junior faculty who have little enough security as it is.  Their response will simply be what Ipeirotis said – they won’t bother because no one is going to lose their job in this climate for the sake of an abstract idea that higher university authorities don’t have the guts to enforce – but should.

  • sciencegrad

    This was an absolutely wonderful post!  Your philosophy of teaching is exactly what I have always wanted to bring to the classroom.  It’s refreshing to learn that some professors do indeed have such guiding principles.

  • http://behind-the-enemy-lines.com/ Panos Ipeirotis

    Not if the professor checks the click pattern and where the visitors come from :-)

    It is even more futile to attempt cheating, when the professor is the one who uncovered a major advertising fraud ring that bypassed the security measures of many major corporations. (See http://behind-the-enemy-lines.blogspot.com/2011/03/uncovering-advertising-fraud-scheme.html and the links inside to see the associated Wall Street Journal article.)

    Humor aside, your basic point stands: Such competition-based assignments should be designed carefully.

  • jwdfelix

    Is anyone else bothered that students’ intellectual property is violated when faculty submit papers to Turnitin? Check out the company’s description of how to assure that the software is used to meet FERPA demands appropriately.

  • DorothyP

    NYU has become a diploma mill.

  • eelalien

    I have serious reservations in regards to student evaluations being the main means of instructor evaluation, but I smell something funny underneath Ipeirotis’ claims – like the distinct possibility that other factors are contributing to the poor evaluations. All in all, his whining and resolution to simply “look the other way” when it comes to student academic integrity reeks of poor academic leadership qualitities – I, for one, would not have wanted him as my professor.

  • eelalien

    I have serious reservations in regards to student evaluations being the main means of instructor evaluation, but I smell something funny underneath Ipeirotis’ claims – like the distinct possibility that other factors are contributing to the poor evaluations. All in all, his whining and resolution to simply “look the other way” when it comes to student academic integrity reeks of poor academic leadership qualitities – I, for one, would not have wanted him as my professor.

  • tapplinx

    A cautionary tale

    Thankfully most of the work students have to hand in to me isn’t
    easy to plagiarize

    However, even if it were easy,  the offense would have to be truly egregious
    and appalling for me to pursue it

    Life is way too short

    There are already way too many commitments on my time

    Note the amount of time wasted –

    And for what?

    It is not worth it
    aside from that,

    It’s beyond belief that his pay increase was impacted by
    this

    Screwed in every way possible

    For what it’s worth, a colleague had the same using a friend’s  laptop excuse this past semester

    “I wrote it on their laptop and got distracted and submitted
    their paper”

    Opps

    After failing her, this part timer colleague then endured
    endless emails from the student, her parents, the advisor etc pleading that she
    accept this lame excuse

    Imagine the amount of time this took from her life

    Not worth it  

  • missoularedhead

    I am known to be extremely tough on plagiarism, but I don’t feel like it affects my classroom, my teaching, or my evaluations.  Maybe because I’m VERY upfront about the issue. It’s in my syllabus, in face to face classes, I talk about it on the first day, and in online classes, they have to take a quiz.  I deal with it in a matter of fact way, and move on.  And one of the things I stress is that it does not make me think less of the student plagiarizing. I treat it as a learning experience.  For the first offense, it’s a zero on the assignment. 

    And come to think of it, I’ve only ever had 3 cases of students who went on to plagiarize again. Of course, with those students, the hammer came down. Official letters, failing the course…never pretty. But overall, I’ve actually had students thank me for catching them!

  • http://behind-the-enemy-lines.com/ Panos Ipeirotis

    Well, this is the problem with taking down the post: I cannot simply ask people to read the post until the end. 

    My “will not do anything from now on” was not meant to be taken literally. It was a provocative point leading to the conclusion: “If I need to fight so hard, then I am doing it wrong. It would be much better to simply design my evaluation strategy to be immune to cheating, as much as possible.”

  • green_hornist

    I’m with you, Jeff.  I have used a number of your techniques at the college level, and have held these various forms of cheating in check with no major problems.  And I get good evaluations.

    :)
     

  • slpgrad

    Hey, Chronicle!  You should have supertatie write an article based on this post.  Absolutely fabulous stuff.  Thank you.

  • green_hornist

    Once again, that’s another reason why I never accuse students of cheating.  I just give them F’s on the bogus things they submit.  It’s simple and it works.

  • lillirose51

    part of the problem is a changing societal wide view about whether or not plagiarism is “really” cheating…when Joe Biden tried to run for President in 1988 revelations of his plagiarism of a speech, and acknowledgment of a plagiarized paper in law school were enough to derail his candidacy; when Joe Biden was placed on the Democratic ticket in 2008 no mention of this past was made by anyone in the mainstream media, and my guess is that even if it had been no one would have really cared.

  • orangehorse

    Mr. Schneider, I liked your observations.  I teaching freshman English composition courses and the occasional literature or business writing course — mostly now at community college level.  Some of them are dual enrolled high school students, many are ESL or returning adult students — a mix, in other words.

    I’ve noticed what you said about group work — and how more advanced students shun it.

    Last year, in addition to lecture on concepts, group work and short paragraph writing in class, I began to have students write drafts of essays by hand, as well as outlines, primarily because of my class-time length — the class met only once a week for just over three hours. 

    I found there to be pluses with having the students write extensively in class — I won’t list them here, as I think you know what some of them might be as a history instructor who has students write alot.

    It was only earlier this year I began to realize writing in class also could be a real means for me to help reduce plagiarism or other kinds of dishonesty.   I had used Turnitin.com at other colleges where I had taught, as it was intergrated into Blackboard.  It could help me detect some plagiarism, though usually using a web browser and entering phrases of suspect writing was more successful.

    But earlier this year I had experiences in two different course that made me realize how extensively writing in class is invaluable. 
    In one class, hand written writing samples alert me to poor performing students (especially  ESL students).  The longer drafts were bases for me to compare the type-written revisions students submitted.  Discrepancies between the handritten and typewritten work then alerted me further that there other cheating methods being used besides the regular cutting and pasting from the internet (with font changes).

    I discovered one student
    (and probably others) was cheating by limited internet cutting and pasting phrases from
    the internet into Microsoft Word, where the pasted phrases could then have
    changed out with help of a thesaurus and thus avoid straight-forward detection
    on my part. A family member or friend might also have been writing type written work for the student.

    I also became aware of
    students using internet translator engines to write English for them.

    In another class, I had two students avoid
    writing long in-class drafts for me, only to turn in late  typewritten versions that were either directly
    plagiarized or were clearly not written by them – I had writing samples and
    other work of theirs to compare, and I also used an internet browser to find the copied work on-line.   

    I think I will follow your practice of limited quotations, too.
    And yes, I’ve come to realize that communication is pretty important to the students and to me.  Not only by conversing with them individually do I gain a fuller understanding of their language skills and their ideas.  They will likely learn more actively, too in the process — provided they do some followup activity aside from discussion or group work.
     

  • 12080243

    As noted in other comments, and I agree, plagiarism is a complex issue. As important, and probably more complex, is how universities handle accusations of plagiarism. Research on the behavior and consequences of administrators and colleagues is available online at the Social Science Research Network. See, “Is Accreditation a Reliable Authority of Academic Quality? Testing Social Reality” and “University and AACSB Diversity.” See, http://ssrn.com/author=397169.

    “Is Accreditation a Reliable Authority on Academic Quality” Abstract: During preparations for reaccreditation, a colleague noticed that the College Accreditation Committee represented other Colleges’ documents as their own. He consulted several faculty including this researcher. We advised the Dean and Committee that the documents were without attribution. The events were immediately identified as an opportunity to test social reality – the reliability – of institutions’ and leaders’ behavior vis-à-vis the institution’s representations. (See, “A General Theory to Test Social Reality.”)

    The Dean and Committee members ignored requests to discuss the copied documents. Subsequently, the Dean submitted the questionable materials to the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business (AACSB) during reaccreditation. After internal efforts, both informal and formal, to discuss the documents failed, faculty informed the AACSB that the documents were copied “without proper citation” – a term used by faculty who copied other
    school’s documents. The actions of the AACSB inform their constituency and public of a neglected dimension of accreditation: What does the AACSB do when challenged with evidence of alleged violations of its standards? In other words, is the AACSB a reliable authority on academic quality?

    Faculty and administrators had choices of well-known university and accreditation principles and rules to follow or refuse to follow as the events unfolded. The choices and evidence in this report support the conclusion that accreditation is not a reliable authority on
    academic quality.

    Related research includes: “A General Theory to Test Social Reality” and “University and AACSB Diversity” also available online from the Social Science Research Network: See, http://ssrn.com/author=397169.

    Chauncey M. DePree, Jr., DBA, Professor, School of Accountancy, College of Business, University of Southern Mississippi, m.depree@usm.edu

  • 5768

    What do we expect in the world of complaint management?  Stomp out complaints by outraged students as well as by the most conscientious of faculty and the gateway that would otherwise open onto expensive litigation is thereby closed. Mum’s become the word; “Don’t ask if they cheat, don’t tell if they do” is tacitly implicit here.

  • webwebster

    If you are honest because honesty is the best policy, then your honesty is corrupt. Others can stop you temporarily, only you can do it permanently. – Anthony

  • matthewssarg

    As I project myself into Mr Ipeirotis’ position what I see is that a climate change has probably occurred in his class, and not for the better.  As he mentioned there is affective spillover in his class from the time outside of class pursuing these issues, and this may have real impact the quality of instruction or student learning and/or satisfaction.  

    I have watched faculty get bitter through the academic misconduct investigation process and have watched them place “inspecting in integrity(?)” as a top priority in their courses, and mentor others to do so.  My priority to students is to educate and facilitate learning, NOT to police.  That being written my students know that I expect academic integrity and I will and have pursued investigations when I found that trust violated.

  • periwinkleblue

    The saying “Cheaters never prosper” is an absolute lie. As Public Enemy famously rapped, “Don’t believe the hype!” Cheaters get reality TV shows, Dean’s List awards & fellowships, promotions, the White House (Bush the 2nd) and other bonuses. Of course, it’s a question of morals and ethics, but all Americans have ever cared about is the W – the win. Do I want to undergo an operation with a surgeon who cheated his/her way through Med School? Hell no! But, as Mr. Ipeirotis discovers, making there are ways to weed the cheaters out. My question to him and others: Is it worth the extra effort?

    A recent NYT article that discusses grade inflation, “You’re Not Wrong: Colleges Giving More A’s”: http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/14/grade-inflation, only makes it more evident that we, as a society, only care about the W (or the A). The administration gives mixed signals to faculty, telling them to “stand firm” and “be rigorous” but simultaneously cowtows to angry parents whose kids have repeated marginal performance. Everyone feels entitled nowadays, especially the parents and their kids. Remember the study about cheaters at Harvard? The idea of Ivy League exceptionalism is a joke, since I suspect a significant majority of those students are cheating, too.

    To that end, I ask again, is fixating on students’ cheating worth the extra effort? I don’t think so. The students want the inflated grades, the prof. wants his/her salary & benefits, the administration wants tuition dollars and retention. The hypocrisy is that faculty are more sternly punished by the administration for cheating than students are! Students are rarely disciplined for rampant plagiarism, but faculty are dismissed for a slight offense? As Kafka would say, “It’s all a big lie.”

  • blaman

    The reporters may be excused for following their boss’s policy.  However, it’s not up to the Chronicle or any other newspaper to decide whether or not to use an earned degree.  They have nothing to do with it, having not been involved with the earning of the degree.  Only the university where it was earned and the earner have this right.  It is, indeed, snobbery at work here.  And as for mam5mc’s post, do your job.  

  • old nassau’67

    Observations:
    1. What happened to the cheaters? If the consequnces are not severe, why not cheat? At my alma mater, which used an Honor Code requiring the signature of the student on any graded work, cheating could result in not only expulsion, but eradication of any transcript. At 50k/year, a severe financial penalty.
    2. What were the raises of other tenured faculty with the same 5.3 review average? For that matter, are raises determined transparently  (i.e.: a posted weighted scale involving committees, publications, conference papers, students advised, research $$ garnered, etc.) or opaquely?

  • poncedeleroy

    Not if you make it optional and get student permission. This is what my institution has done from the start.

  • 11901736

    Old joke: an established professor takes umbrage at being addressed with an incorrect title: “Don’t call me “‘Doctor’–I *have* a job!”

  • meinholdt

    Lots of interesting subtext about U.S. education such as – a sizeable portion of students (and everyone else) seek recognition and rewards without doing anything that merits being recognized or rewarded.  Many folks don’t seem to value knowledge or learning; even more disturbing is how common it is to believe people with a Ph.D. are disconnected from reality (a few bad eggs shouldn’t discredit everyone).  The business model (free market capitalims, or whatever) is contaminating things like intellectualism, altruism, civic responsibility and other stuff that add qualities to life other than cash.  Many people seem to realize that turning the tide of . . . I don’t know, maybe self-focused pursuit of wealth above all else . . . will be difficult and costly, so just go with the flow.   

    Where does this eventually lead?  With freshmen congressional representatives with NO education in business or economic dismissing a Nobel prize economist at Princeton, while trying to legislature policy on national debt, taxes, etc.  Yikes!!! Mr. (Dr.) Peirotis, please don’t give up completely.

  • http://behind-the-enemy-lines.com/ Panos Ipeirotis

    Answer to 1:  From http://www.businessinsider.com/nyu-professor-class-cheating-2011-7#comment-4e273a85cadcbb434e020000 : I *did* report all the students to the administration. The administration took care of the matter after than. The students that cheated could not evaluate me on my performance. Furthermore, they get a mark in their transcripts that they were involved in a cheating incident. This prevents them from effectively getting into a law school, or being hired by an investment bank.
     Answer 2: The evaluation process does not have such level of transparency. We just know it is a 50-30-20 of research-teaching-service. You may conclude that my research evaluation went down, but I want to believe that my research productivity was higher this year, compared to most of my prior years, and service was the same. But it was the first year that I was labeled overall as “average” as opposed to “above average”. However, as I mentioned in another comment, the whole issue of compensation is really detracting the conversation from the key point: how can we make cheating irrelevant?

  • rei727887

    “Stern faculty members are obligated to support the University and Stern honor codes and are never sanctioned in any way for doing so.”  Interesting that “sanctioned” means both “penalized” and “authorized”.

  • boss50

    For those determined by the Turnitin program to be cheating, they aren’t allowed to evaluate the class and/or teacher.  Parallel to felons not being able to vote.

  • v8573254

    At my Midwestern university, the use of “Dr.” depended on the department.  The more selective the enrollment, the less likely a “Dr.”

  • green_hornist

    That’s ridiculous.  Of course a publication may choose an editorial policy of referring to all males as “Mr.” and all females as “Ms.”  The Chronicle doesn’t need to waste half of its editorial time chasing down the professional title of every person it writes about.

    Beyond that, everyone should get over this title nonsense.  It epitomizes much of what is wrong with the academy and what makes us such a laughing stock.

     Peter S. Hoff, Ph.D. (grin)

  • http://who-will-kiss-the-pig.blogspot.com Richard Grayson

    You can’t compare Panos Ipeirotis to Truman Capote, who threw much better parties!

  • green_hornist

    There was a time, perhaps gone by, when “Dr.” was considered in the South to be a superior title to “Professor.”  Probably because doctorates were rare enough that many professors did not have them.  But also symptomatic of the need to put on airs and/or feel superior to somebody for no good reason.

    Once again–academics should get over it.  Gain respect quietly by being a respectable person rather than insisting on being addressed by your title.  When I was an undergraduate in the sixties at a highly regarded Midwestern university, professors preferred to be addressed as Mr. or Ms., not Dr. or Professor.  Everyone was the better for it.

  • http://twitter.com/youngshay112 Shannon Johnson

    Have you ever had an occasion where Turnitin didn’t detect cheating, but you had a feeling a student had plagiarized?

  • http://behind-the-enemy-lines.com/ Panos Ipeirotis

    Yes. There were some rather unusual sentences in the paper, which triggered my curiosity.

  • http://community.turnitin.com/members/blog_view.asp?id=597928 Ray H

    This is definitely a great way to use Turnitin as a teaching tool, and to encourage revision. Submitting multiple drafts through Turnitin is another great use.

  • 5768

    I find eminently prepared and motivated freshman out of high school who, by the time they make it to their senior year in college, are lackadaisical and have relegated learning to a game to be played with the teacher to get their “ticket punched.” “You scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours.”  Worse than being a friend, some faculty may become accomplices to the worst of student behaviors on the part of a few, or what’s worse than worse, become accomplices to mediocre and substandard student learning and behavior on the part of the many.

    Keep sending us those great students from high school. It is lamentable what fate may await them when they and their teachers are forced into currying favor one to another. Of course, it begins with weak faculty. But administrations who avert their eyes from this problem–which to them is not likely regarded as a problem at all–must ultimately be held responsible for creating such cultures. Evidently they aren’t, which only compounds the problem.

    Do you have teacher evaluations in high school, Jeff?

  • gadget

    In fact, in Mexico, people who have a bachelor’s degree use the honorific licenciado.

  • 5768

    This is in accordance with research which has demonstrated that a de facto failure to proctor examinations leads to an increased incidence in cheating (if anyone knows research to the contrary please post).  Ergo….The teacher must set the tone, and this is an on-going process that must occur at several levels throughout the semester.

    That Dr. Ipeirotis is receiving the clear message that he is to “forget about cheating detection” would best be the subject of a congressional inquiry. Or, on second thought…what is the upstanding agency to call national attention and bring a halt to such travesties?

  • bander40

    The problem at least partly rests with the way in which professors and institutions have thrown the weight of the entire cheating problem on the slight shoulders of Turnitin. As a recent former student, I can attest to the fact that Turnitin and similar programs help to increase negative feelings in the classroom. It’s all part of the “if you’ve done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about ” mentality. I’ve never cheated in  my life, and my papers were not flagged by Turnitin, but I still felt rather dirty having to submit my papers in this way. It creates a bad vibe all around. Cheating should not be ignored, but we can’t expect automated programs to solve the issue for us, either.

  • gadget

    I use Safe Assign for my English students, who are primarily evaluated based on the papers they submit. The first week of class, I show them how it works, and show them a dummy essay with copying and how easy it is to identify using SA. I explain that I cannot teach them writing skills if they don’t do their own writing, and I discuss the reasons why students copy (leaving assignments to the last minute, easy to get away with in high school, taking too heavy a course load, fear of writing in English (particular to my institution perhaps), etc.). When I talk with them, I do not ascribe copying to laziness or bad attitude, i.e., I do not criticize their ethics and innate traits, only how I cannot teach them unless they do their own work. I inform them that papers with copying will be returned with a zero and the opportunity to rewrite, and then I point out that doing it this way results in more work for them, not less. I also tell them that I will teach them proper citation and sourcing, along with the correct way to summarize and paraphrase. I then follow through on everything I have told them.

    This approach has greatly reduced the amount of copying they do, although some students do test me on the first essay. Most straighten up when I return that essay with a zero and and offer to meet with them in my office so I can tutor them individually on sourcing, summarizing, etc. Only those who are genuinely confused take me up on the offer. And some students do get confused (I teach at a community college, not NYU.)

    My class evaluations remain strong (4.5-4.8 on a 5 point scale) and I usually only fail one or two students in a semester for incorrigible copying. It is a lot of extra work to catch they copiers and insist they do it right, but I rarely feel bad or angry about it and my classroom atmosphere stays positive. I do tell them I am doing this for their own good because there are serious consequences to plagiarism.

    My son graduated from NYU’s law school last year, and his dean at his undergraduate university had to write a letter to NYU law school showing that there were no such incidents in his student record or known to the department before he was allowed to enroll at NYU. Perhaps this is something that the NYU business school ought to do.

  • petrovic

    I’m not sure about Comp. Sci., but there’s an easy way to eliminate cheating in the humanities and social sciences 100%….oral exams. In 5 years of using them, I find they reveal a student’s grasp on the material as good or better than written assignments.

  • simiosys

    This is a beautiful story of how universities say one thing (be vigilant on plagiarism) and do another thing (dock pay for losing the student popularity contest).  If the University is not willing to reward faculty for doing the right thing, they need to take on the responsibility themselves.  If the software is built in to the system, let the “big brother” system police for plagiarism instead of the Professor. 

    I got the same hypocrisy with other bogus University Priorities that hurt tenure and promotion like Interdisciplinary research, Partnering, Innovative Initiatives and International Collaboration.  They say they want them, but they hurt the professor because they share credit, IP and question arcane methods of the department, school our university.  

    The university systems will need to figure out how to innovate and adapt faster and better or risk being phased out.

  • http://twitter.com/KritInfo Katharine R.

    Posting the issue on a blog may be more important to the University than the cheating. Academic freedom is not what it once was and sadly cheating is viewed by students as survival mode. The fact that the Dean’s office viewed the cheaters separately when reviewing the faculty member’s student appraisals and by so doing believed that other classmates would not be affected is obviously missing the importance of the student (or faculty for that matter) grapevine. 

  • dr_arthur_ide

    Cheating has existed for a long time. Teachers who do not take appropriate action condone cheating. The cheat gets a job fraudulently, and the individual(s) he or she works with suffer.

    It is true that a teacher is ranked by students, but the students I have today could care less about learning information; they want the grade and the prize of a degree without having to study for it. I do and will continue to catch plagiarism, and I will fail the student who cheats.  I am not tenured, but I do have to sleep with myself. If we ignore cheating we hurt all those who come after the cheater and silently encourage cheating. Education is not a toy; it is a privilege to obtain.

  • dr_arthur_ide

    If you know Latin, you know that the title Doctor means “teacher”. A PhD has far more right to use the title “Doctor” than an MD, DVM, etc., as their proper title is “surgeon”. I am a teacher. It took me longer to get the title “Doctor” than to be a “Mister”–that only took the time to be born.

  • dr_arthur_ide

    I would not be “fine” with the term “Mr.”–Mister is how I was born; it took time to become a teacher and that is what the word “Doctor” has meant since 107 CE and still does in Latin. Those who cut people (medical, dental, etc) or animals are surgeons–not doctors unless they are teaching in a medical school.

  • Guest

    I think this professor means well and would like to encourage him to keep using turnitin.com semester after semester.  What will happen is that once word gets out that students can’t get away with plagiarism in his class, they will either not take his class or not bother trying to plagiarize.  When students don’t even bother trying to plagiarize, then turnitin.com has done its work.
    Besides, it has great tools for grading papers, peer review assignments, drafts, etc.

  • Guest

    Ha… that’s good.  We still need to discuss best practice.  

    Keep using turnitin.com.  Or at least try it one or two more semesters.  Word will get out and students will quit trying to get away with cheating in your class.  I caught eight students in one class my first semester at my current institution using turnitin.com and then never had more than one or two after that.  Students who want to cheat avoid me.  

  • fruupp

    I have reason to believe that my institution will not “have my back” if I charge a student with cheating; so I don’t.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=561780756 Peter Moskos

    Turnitis is not an automated program in the sense of churning out a yes or no answer. It is a tool. And a very good one. Perhaps the professor should have explained this or let you see the results.

    I find it acts as a great deterrent. Having my students submit to turnitin is much better than having to fail students who plagiarize–which I used to do with some regularity–both for me and for the student.

  • darr3455

    I believe that this is, in fact, a more severe issue: http://www.turnitin.com does not flag those papers that students (predominantly international students) pay someone to write.  Speaking as an instructor in the humanities (where an essay assignment is pretty much mandatory… after all they are supposed to be learning to be literate) it is galling to receive a paper full of alliteration, literary allusions, and any number of literary flourishes, from students who can’t speak, write, or understand simple single-clause sentences when they stand in front of you.  What is more galling is raising the issue with administrators that remind you how much tuition international students pay.  It is very clear that the application of the business model to post-secondary education is degrading the integrity and educational value of the system. 

  • http://twitter.com/youngshay112 Shannon Johnson

    Writer’s POV here: sometimes I’ll reread a phrase so many times in different pieces that I just type it as I’ve read it. I was taught that 3 or more consecutive words needed to be cited, and would get in trouble for it all the time. No Ctrl+C, just brain drain!

  • http://twitter.com/youngshay112 Shannon Johnson

    I told him that I was a voracious reader and had chosen a topic I’d read lots about. I even referred him to a few articles using the same phrase (something about single-sex high school classes). My point was that I’d soaked in the information and knew it enough to discuss it with confidence, and wasn’t that the point of college? If I had to put quotes around every phrase I’d learned and used, the paper would have been unreadable.

  • gent258

    First, faculty raises should not be tied to student evaluations; they should count very little unless there are serious infractions such as not meeting classes. A tenured faculty member should not have to worry about student evaluations which usually only measure popularity. Second, each student who cheated should receive a zero on that assignment. The Dean should be prepared to take disciplinary action against students who cheat; however, many colleges now are more concerned about a head count and they will take any warm body.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIKSUHY6TK3IJAW5QZWE6R6VH4 lisakaz

    I’m not surprised that the system — and the students — discouraged this professor from doing the right thing. Indeed, these are the same conditions (using student evaluations to reward “merit”) that contributes to cheating elsewhere. It’s ridiculous. Why this professor couldn’t remove these students before they poisoned the class, I don’t know. I would have aimed to do that.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIKSUHY6TK3IJAW5QZWE6R6VH4 lisakaz

    Funny because I use it a lot.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIKSUHY6TK3IJAW5QZWE6R6VH4 lisakaz

    I agree with antiutopia. You do get a reputation. I always put it on the syllabus and make a point to them why they shouldn’t do it. Doesn’t always work but if you start as hardnosed about it, you won’t be challenged as much and students have a harder time claiming surprise later on if you are very plain about your policy.

    It sounded like your class was poisoned by the plagiarized paper producers. It seems to me that needs to be taken out of the class and maybe such students can be removed before such a thing happens.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIKSUHY6TK3IJAW5QZWE6R6VH4 lisakaz

    No. I EARNED that degree and I am a female. It says nothing about my marital status. I will use it because I am entitled to use it. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIKSUHY6TK3IJAW5QZWE6R6VH4 lisakaz

    Probably so, but these students may have been cheaters for years to even get into a college. Don’t just put it on NYU for not supporting a clear policy. Let’s put chief responsibility on the students who try to get by without working and often expect As just for showing up. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIKSUHY6TK3IJAW5QZWE6R6VH4 lisakaz

     Because a lot of times you’d need to know the materials to evaluate. Or you’d need to consistently attend class. Example: I got evaluations that said they had nothing to do with my assignments, whereas the week before I always talked about the upcoming assignment. If you don’t attend my class, how would you know? Or how do you miss this or lie? Some idiot claimed he had to teach himself the material. What a lazy, worthless comment — I’m a guide by I am not there to merely give everything. It cannot be done. Education is a process, not a consumer acquisition

    You can say you like or dislike a book offered but how many times can you say what the instructor chose should have been another book? Do you know what’s available and accessible to your class? I had students in one course claim a textbook was “too hard” and it was the easiest textbook one could use. The publisher had never heard from anyone it was too hard. There were no complicated discussions of the Sonderweg thesis or post-structuralism or any theory whatsoever. And yet, is someone’s basic reading comprehension problem my fault? Or if they attend one out of three classes a week and blame me because that student didn’t get a C? There is a good deal of issues with student evaluations having agendas and being solely based in, say, how hard an exam was. That’s the problem. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIKSUHY6TK3IJAW5QZWE6R6VH4 lisakaz

    I’ve gotten my share of those “unorganized” comments. Thank you for explaining that because it never made any rational sense to me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Antonio-Stradivari/100002134825197 Antonio Stradivari

    Interesting.  I think Dr. Ipeirotis should move to a CS department rather than teaching business students; that may help.  In my experience it is much harder to cheat without being obvious in programming and mathematical assignments, rather than ones where students are required to write essay-type answers.

    My own policy on cheating is that when a student hands in an assignment where she has cheated on a question, I grade the whole assignment but add a note on the cover saying that the overall score on the assignment is going to be zero because of cheating (and I give information on how, which is usually either a web page URL or another student’s name).  I do not publicize the matter any further or change my dealings with the student explicitly (but that student will never be allowed to work on any industry project with me, and I will also refuse to be her thesis advisor or write a letter of recommendation for her later if she asks it).  Students are of course welcome to use the defined grievance procedure if they think I have done them wrong, but hardly any ever do, and my evals are fine.

    By the way, I also think experienced professors do not need turnitin — most cheating is obvious because the prose is suddenly remarkably better than the student’s standard, or the program code is so much cleaner, or such.

  • butteredtoastcat

    Dear Doctor Professor Mister Lord-High Dudeman Panagiotis Ipeirotis:

    The problem you are having is not that cheating shouldn’t be hunted down and shot like a sewer rat: it is that so few professors actually do so.  Oh, they rant and rave and blow smoke out of various orifices as they hand out syllabi.  But, in the end, professors don’t really want to waste their valuable research and politicking time checking a plethora of cut-and-pastes from a generation which, left to its own devices, would turn in sentences like, “i thnk shkspr is gr8.”  And, of course, the untenured and the adjuncts know that customer service, as reflected in positive “teaching” evals, is their key to continued employment.  So, no help there.

    Alas, my dear Dudeman Ipeirotis, this puts you in the awkward position of being the only dad in town who enforces a curfew while all the other dads buy pot and condoms for their kids and wouldn’t wait up for them on a bet.  You’re bound to be unpopular.  Now, in the old days, we were told that it was OK if your were unpopular: you’d get your reward in heaven–or by having a peaceful middle age unmarred by illegitimate grandchildren or drug addict sons. 

    But times have changed.  The university is no longer “in loco parentis.”  It’s merely “loco” and not in a good way.  The university is a maze of corporate insanity with the appropriate “messaging.”

    “We want you to catch and report cheaters” really means, “We want to look like we’re still a school and not the headquarters of Arthur Anderson.  So remember what we said, but forget to do it, OK?”  Hence, the penalty to your salary.  Remember, my dear Ipeirotis, no bad news.  Only positive thinking.  Cheating is negative and is a big bummer to the corporatio–department.  If universities were really serious about catching the dishonest, they would start with their own administrations.  But I digress.

    If universities want to stop cheating, every professor, adjunct, lecturer, and overworked graduate student teaching a course should be required to use “turnitin.com.”   Instructors should face disciplinary action if they don’t.  Heh!

    Then, suddenly my dear Dudeman, it’s no longer your personal witch hunt.  And you could even turn apologetically to the students, with a tear in your eye and a song in your heart, and say, “The university makes us all do it.  I’m so sorry.”  (Cue the oboe.  Yeah, dammit, the oboe.)

    Let me share a story with you, amigo.  I am working in a quasi-university function as a preparer of young international students for American university life through the extension program at our not-so-prestigious but fun “Playboy party school” university.  The program’s boss man told us all to have strong attendance policies.  See, we have this problem with about half of our students–all from the same country–who can’t figure out how late is fashionably late, and who frequently arrive 45 minutes into a 90 minute class.  They are quite pleased with themselves, but I have to take points off anyway.  There’s that pesky F-1 visa thing to worry about, according to the boss man.

    Imagine my complete shock, however, when I am told that, though I am a fine instructor and well worth the under-market rate that they pay me, that I might not be rehired because I have a strong attendance policy.  Yes, they can do this.  You see we are all hired under this temporary-part-time-visitor-from-outer-space designation that only human resources thinks is a real category.  Other instructors, smarter than I, have figured this out and have learned to say “Yes, yes” to the bossman while, secretly, not marking any student late unless he arrives in the last ten minutes of class with a Philadelphia string band. 

    So, mon ami, you can see the pungent irony: I may not get rehired for a job I do well because I followed my boss man’s instructions.  It’s like Bruce Springsteen read Franz Kafka and wrote a country song.

    So what have we learned boys and girls?

    To thine own covered ass be true.

     i thnk shkspre wd say GR8!

    Signed,

    Professor Doctor Lord-High Queen Mother of the Universe,

    Butteredtoastcat

  • http://behind-the-enemy-lines.com/ Panos Ipeirotis

    I would have laughed if your story was not so sad.

    Now, I do have any plans on not using Turnitin. It will be there. But I will not repeat the saga of hunting all students for which I only have a vague evidence of cheating. (Surprise, surprise, in all these cases my intuition was correct.) Seriously, too much drama. And I repeat: it is not worth it. These cheating students just fail when dealing with the more creative projects that come later in the class.

  • butteredtoastcat

    Feel free to laugh at the absurdity of it all. 

    The kernel of truth in the creamy, carmel center is that higher education is now a Dilbert universe, complete with students who know they are merely the conduits for student loan dollars or the university’s excuse to extract more and more money from increasingly poorer taxpayers. Can we really blame students for cheating?  They do more good for the university’s continued existence than the university does for theirs.

    On the other hand, they will be in charge one day.  If there’s not some accountability somewhere, we are in for a long, hard century.

  • bernie2012

    I have comment further down about my organic chemistry professor.  This professor is very tough and has a very unique style of presenting material and students are somewhat split (I would say 75/25 or 80/20 in favor of him) on whether they accept it or not.  Students that get lower grades tend to blame him for it.  What happens is, just like every other organic chem. prof. at Emory, he doesn’t give a syllabus that details the topics that will be covered from day to day.  He essentially covers what he wants.  He will give students a pdf on the course conference telling the names of topics to be on the exam (but he won’t describe a context) and some book problems to do in certain chapters, but will not say you should read or tackle a chapter at a certain time.

    Now what he does that is unorthodox compared to the others is that instead of covering certain topics in orgo. one by one in a stepwise manner.  He does this problem-based/intellectual community based style approach where we’ll enter the classroom and he’ll generally start with a large molecule and do many things with it.  He’ll of course ask our input as to what will happen and why and will often ranomly ask students to come to the board to show their peers, which may intimidate the students in the 20/25% that dislike because they must come to class prepared and ready for any curve balls, which means they need to have read or practiced something.  Now, how this is supposed to work is that various concepts in organic chemistry are supposed to be stressed while discussing various aspects and doing various things to the molecule.  It is up to the student to the student to keep up and figure out what is important (basically, they need to look at what was done and look at the topic outline and see what matches).  Essentially, the class does require a great deal of independent responsibility (something, supposedly high caliber freshmen qualifying for the course should be able to handle).

    He’ll do this everyday and will sometimes up the ante so that the topics the next session may not directly relate to those the last session and may indeed be far more advanced than topics that can be grasped by reading the book (but then again, this is why we take notes right?).  What this does is makes sure students can think creatively and on their feet, which they will have to do on the exam (they will see something they’ve never seen in class, and will have to put together many concepts and perhaps display a completely novel application of them, at least relative to what they were shown in class) and other assignments. Many consider this intellectual challenge as a form of “disorganization” even though he never made promises that he would present material in a linear/sequential manner or merely stick to the book (the book is really just supposed to provide a minimal background so that larger issues can be discussed in class).  He also presents material very clearly so that students get the point. The only reason they view the course as “unorganized” is because THEY are not organized and prepared enough to go half and half w/the prof. Essentially, 70-90% of the burden is not on the profs. shoulders.  This is an abnormally rigorous environment for a university now-a-days and doesn’t fit the norm and probably surprises freshman who heard that college is easier than the HS school they come from.  That might apply to their other courses, but not this one.

    I think part of the problem is that these students are very high-performing freshmen that have never been really challenged or told to stay on their toes and certainly have not been told to engage at this level in a science course which before then was very formulaic.  Students could just learn “problem” types and expect to do well.  The idea of being creative in science is foreign to them.  Admittedly the class is probably harder than the sophomore orgo. courses which all suffer from “I easily did well in my freshman science courses, so if I’m not doing well here, you are making it too hard for me, and you better curve”.  Despite the 20/25% that dislike the frosh orgo. prof., they are by and large more motivated and more intellectually driven than their sophomore peers (whose excitement for learning in college, if it ever existed, has diminished a year after sitting in boring, large, and relatively easy intro. science courses. Basically sophomores are complacent. And orgo. is shock therapy to them. The prof. I speak of actually quit teaching them for this reason and said that even when he did, the frosh course was still significantly harder. He claimed that soph/upperclassmen made too many excuses, like “but I don’t have time, I have to prep for my MCAT”. Then the question should have been: “Why would you take a prof. know to be challenging?”. What he would do is give them easier mid-terms and the same killer final as the freshmen out of spite lol, Their grades would take a huge hit afterwards, even more than the freshmen).  Essentially my orgo. prof’s “disorganization” as 20-25% call it, results in some invaluable skills (independence, creative thinking, expecting the unexpected, constant prep, and high engagement/level of inquiry) for most of the surviving freshmen and they tend to go on to be more successful in even higher level courses.  They are typically more outgoing as well (for example, Emory’s two Goldwater scholars this year were in my frosh orgo. class.  It’s almost always the case that at least one took him). 

    Anyway, don’t become discouraged when you see annoying things on your course evaluation when you know you did well (or at least good).

  • tdb489

    Dear Mr. Butteredtoastcat:

    Your eloquent dialogue is sheer genius.  I salute your understanding of the political climate.  Bravo to your mimicking of youngster slang.

    Having been the professor who always did the “right thing” and paid the consequences for it, I am at a loss for a solution to this problem.  While Dr. Walter is obviously full of it in his well prepared press release, I can not help but consider him and all of those others who ”blow smoke out of various orifices” as anything but cowardly trash. How would you clean up our disgraceful university system? 

  • ivanacg

    When discussing plagiarism I find useful to look at the following: Is there a whole-school approach to avoiding plagiarism in the school? (i.e. Does it give briefings on how many cases and *types* of cases have occurred in a set amount of time?) Is there a differentiation between minor (inadvertent) and major (Intentional) plagiarism? Is the school checking that its students know how to work with multiple sources and cite them? We assume students arrive knowing good research practices but in high schools such process is of secondary importance–no time. Even skills such as paraphrasing, summarising, etc are not high on the agenda–they are considered boring.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002102055816 Joe Essid

    This began as a snarky reply but I’m serious: let’s make it the campus norm for ALL work to go to private firms for screening we grade it.  Plagiarized work would never even return to the prof’s desk, and penalties could be assigned by a university board, not the professor, who could get on with teaching.

    Not all faculty would agree to such policies, but those who opt in could just let students know, from Day One, that all work would be reviewed by a third party for academic integrity. 

    But I’d prefer a system where everyone would have to submit work to the firm as a condition of employment. It’s a university policy, after all, and aren’t universities trying to be as corporate as possible these days? (well, not quite: corporations actually do punish those who cheat, unless the cheaters are senior investment bankers who only cheated clients, not the firm :)

    So outsource the plagiarism crisis. The best penalty would be a permanent mark in a student’s transcript: “Plagiarist.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002102055816 Joe Essid

    I agree. Unless everyone enforces the rules equally, you’ll just be punished by the vindictive in their evaluations.  What a sad state Higher Education is in, now that we have students as consumers.  Our nation will pay a price for this.

  • wordsmartprof

    The sad fact is that many students tend to “shop” professors. The weaker students give glowing evaluations to the professors who inflate their grades and  don’t bother checking for plagiarism. The holy GPA is all that students think about. Learning? What’s college got to do with THAT?  I’d estimate that at least 15% of students cheat and don’t get caught. I’ve caught at least one or two students per term copying and pasting large segments of their work.

    Some students will write false information on an evaluation thinking that they can increase the odds of  avoiding  a “very strict” professor from teaching the next semester’s segment of their course.

    I am fortunate to have had faculty support and “street wise” administrators who are able to see through tricks and antics but not all professors have that support. There is a smell of desperation in the air today because college is essential for success and a shot at the evaporating pool of jobs. I feel for the students. I feel for the professors. On some days, higher education seems like a race to the bottom. Where are the standards? When are students going to be held accountable?

  • big_giant_head

    I hope you don’t mind, but I kept a copy of this comment for myself.  Excellent stuff here.

  • big_giant_head

    Hey, wait–I work at Podunk Junior college, and we DO get both yearly salary increases AND tenure.  Honestly.

    (Salary increases are won for us by our union negotiators; student evals can have a role–but are not the only determinant– in whether an instructor is granted tenure.)

  • richardtaborgreene

    Teaching is a job—a hierarchy-constrained set of ugly compromises.  Certain of us somehow get to 25 or 35 years old romantic about classrooms and instruction.    That has no place in the institutions of this world, UNLESS and UNTIL you invent and found your OWN institution.  Even then the corrosive force of student druthers and parental delusions will undermine whatever good you try to install.   Teaching is always crap—either entirely or with remnants of some decency still left by imperfect ugly bureaucratic meddling.  

    In THAT context—-of course taking ANY PART of instruction seriously is naive, profit-less, and stupid.   Most of us START out knowing that.   We try to disguise and slip some decency in among the piles of crap forced on us by “institutions” and “leaders”.   

    It is not MY JOB to save entire civilizations all by myself—when most of the people and processes around me aim towards the easiest forms of social suicide, I move to healthier civilizations.  Let the corrupt decay in pieces on each other, not me.   

    When and if the slobs who mess up the USA create consistant reliable spaces for decent bold pure powerful efforts and results—then I may rethink where I make my efforts—but until them, they are far too MBA saturated greed-driven and delusionally without care and discipline for me to exchange Kooties with them on a daily basis.  YUK to the Tenth.  If the little darlings of that above article want to cheat—encourage them—-for cheating is its own best revenge—-it costs more than foregoing it costs.  

  • big_giant_head

    The difference is not actually that hard to explain to students.  “Bonding via memes” is also known as “making an allusion.”  In class, I use this sort of thing as an example of the difference between using someone else’s words or ideas in the hopes that the audience _won’t_ know they aren’t yours, versus using them in the hopes that the audience _will_ catch the reference. 

    This is what we’re supposed to be doing: teaching.  Not policing, but making sure that students understand what is ok and what is not.

  • Guest

    Dr. Gray Kane will be in and out of the office and checking his emails only periodically until Friday, July 29.

  • big_giant_head

    What a bitter poem.

  • jeffkaron

    I’m just going to disagree with everyone who thinks that the situation is hopeless, etc.  As I mentioned in an earlier comment, there are ways to address the plagiarism problem in a positive way, one that makes both students and teachers feel strong, not weak.  Rather than endlessly whine about the new generatioin–just as the ancient Greeks and Romans whined–we should deal with the situation as strong leaders.

    Since someone raised the issue of teaching business students (versus some other cohort), I can attest that a positive approach worked well with groups of MBA students I once taught.  I don’t need to examine all the real problems in American education in order to develop an effective strategy for teaching students how to avoid plagiarism as well as other forms of academic dishonesty.

  • jeffstevens61

    We do not use official evaluations by students. However, I am a popular teacher who consistently gets a special mention by seniors in the yearbook. The kids know who is teaching them and they appreciate it. Kids have to learn what plagiarism is, because they are rarely challenged on it. I have struggled with some very good students to make sure they do not copy from sources. It takes work. The kids respect you for it, in the end.

  • http://www.facebook.com/isafakir Isa Kocher

    after teaching in the middle east for 30 years i discovered there are many ways to design unique assignments where cheating is just impossible. as many ways as there are students. just off the top of my head: use your cell phone and interview your roommates on their opinion of lord of the rings and write a one page report… include the interviews. if done it’s done. can be evaluated according to its criteria. cannot be faked. [and if it is faked, well that would also satisfy the assignment i imagine]. you really have to take time and be creative in your lesson planning. but then assessment can be peer based. which really makes life easier. i try to create assignments that literally are task based and learner based and if completed indicate actual mastery of course objectives.

  • http://www.facebook.com/isafakir Isa Kocher

    it was set up by his school his school directed him to use it. he followed the rules and got his fingers cut off. the school did not think through its system and as a teacher he’s really giving to the profession by sharing his failures and his successes openly. he deserves our thanks.

  • http://www.dypadvisors.com Douglas Park

    “How? He suggested several options. You could require that projects be
    made public, which would risk embarrassment for someone who wanted to
    copy from a past semester. You could assign homework where students give
    class presentations and then are graded by their peers, ratcheting up
    the social pressure to perform well. And you could create an incentive
    to do good work by turning homework into a competition, like asking
    students to build Web sites and rewarding those that get the most
    clicks.”

    Good luck with that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/isafakir Isa Kocher

    my experience was students make me better as a teacher. some classes really bring you down. every class is a totally unique experience and no amount of experience and preparation will ever make you ready for the next one. my experience as a student was that every teacher had its unique opportunities and you learn what you learn. no teacher really teaches and i never learned what was taught if i was learning. when i was being the best teacher i could  i was learning from my students more than they learned from me. learning is not like withdrawing from a bank. my best teachers gave me one or two clues and the rest was up to me. in some classes where i learned the most i got the lowest final grades [and maybe hated the teacher].

  • http://www.facebook.com/isafakir Isa Kocher

    as for student evaluations, whenever i filled on in as an adult student getting extra degrees or certificates [i've got several masters and professional certifications attending graduate schools in my 40s and 50s in ny and the middle east] the student evaluations of teachers had less than zero to do with the teacher or the curriculum. it was incomprehensible. impossible to give rational answers. it is 100% a popularity contest. that is from a student perspective. and in the same semester i’ve received the best teacher #1 and worst teacher evaluations from equivalent sections teaching the same exact second language course at a state university in the middle east. anyone with any training in opinion surveys could do a more valid protocol.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LLFEXK7RUIFBOO6HFVFSABJO2I Izzy

    “Moreover, the course evaluation input of any student who has an honor code infraction is removed from consideration when evaluating teaching performance.”-How is this done when evals are anonymous? In this case, 22 evals were tracked down and removed?  Doubtful.

  • mik_max2

    While cheating in academia is widely acknowledged to be endemic, it’s facilitated  by the abundance of material available through the internet, which frequently provides information without due reference to authorship. Couple this to a reluctance to get to grip with hard copy texts and original research and you create a scenario where students begin to feel that sources are either anonymous or inconsequential. This creates a climate of indifference to both the quality and the provenance of the research, resulting in a notionally ”collaborative” approach to the information, hence students appear to feel they are engaged in “ team effort”, and that the work is thus assimilated as their own. It becomes a “Wikipedia” approach to assignments. More emphasis on libraries and printed texts, especially amongst undergraduates, may deter this to some degree and instil some respect in them for the published work of scholars and other researchers.

  • tdb489

    TAKE BACK EDUCATION NOW!
    THIS STORY IS ABOUT:

    1.  Punishment for doing your job well.
    2.  Rewards for self censorship.
    3.  Rewards for lowering standards to accommodate every student regardless of their inability to understand or perform.
    4.  Administration and faculty keeping their jobs.
    5.  Administration keeping a positive cash flow.
    6.  Making certain every student receives a “seal of approval” no matter how unfit they are for the job market.
    7.  Passing off defective goods (graduated seniors) to unsuspecting employers.
    8.  Political intimidation, threat, and fear to ensure that the parents, employers and the general public are unaware of the actions and inactions of educational institutions.

    DEMAND REFORM
    CONTACT THE STATE AND FEDERAL DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION
    CIRCULATE THIS STORY AND ITS POSTS TO EVERY NEWSPAPER, GOVERNMENT OFFICE, AND PERSON OF INTEREST

    Contact the New York Department of Education to file a complaint:  http://www.nysed.gov/
    Contact the U.S. Department of Education to file a complaint:  http://www.ed.gov/
    Contact your state Department of Education to file a complaint: 

  • rwest1012

    Student evaluations are not the only determining factor in one’s teaching excellence.  If his departmental evaluation was low, it was due to other factors as well.

  • swapnakoshy

    There are many tried and tested methods to minimise plagiarism.
    1. Teach students why/how not to plagiarise and impose penalties if they do.
    2. Introduce tools like TurnitIn as student friendly plagiarism prevention aides (for students) not detection methods( for teachers).
    3. Design assessments that cannot be plagiarised – eg include local/current topics, change assessment type and questions frequently etc…
    Works for me…

  • nicholasstix

    Is there some meaning to your statement, beyond expressing your smug sense of superiority? Are you saying that Mr. Ipeirotis was somehow guilty for the rash of plagiarism in his class, due to some failure of his in “focus[ing] on honor and honesty and what [h]e WANT[s]”? How would one go about practicing what you are preaching?
     
    http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2008/04/postmodern-grade-inflation-plagiarism.html

  • plumsauce

    Fascinating article, thanks! 

    Teaching in an R1 that takes the problem seriously, have recently seen case of alleged offender who became scary and abusive with those in charge of handling the matter. Student was cleared of all allegations (it’s complicated), but staff remained very, very frightened. Made being held hostage by course evals look insignificant.

    Principles are one thing, but life and limb is another set of problems entirely. As students become ever more instrumentalist, if not desperate, one wonders what kind of protection universities will offer staff and faculty forced to confront such problems.

  • nicholasstix

    My experience with offenders in the racketeering-and-corrupt institution known as higher education inspired me to found the Wyatt Earp school of journalism. The following excerpt is from a 2001 article I wrote on college student plagiarism, within a series on academic grade inflation.
     
    http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2008/04/postmodern-grade-inflation-plagiarism.html
     
    When I taught college [English Comp, Philosophy, etc.], I soon learned the need to avoid becoming a “Crook.” [Reference to Jere Crook, an adjunct with a Ph.D. who lost his job at Catholic Fordham University in the Bronx, because he followed his dean’s directive to be tough on cheaters, and the student he caught committing plagiarism complained about him.]
    In my second semester, I received a batch of brilliant papers on Plato’s Republic from community college students, including one masterpiece that was better argued and more beautifully written than the labor of love I had produced on the same topic for a Ph.D. seminar. Since I knew that confronting the plagiarists would result in my pony-tailed, radical feminist, the-student-is-always-right, male boss stabbing me in the back, I quietly knocked a full letter grade off of the semester grade of the “author” of each perfect paper.

    Thereafter, I had students write ALL drafts in class. After correcting and grading their drafts, I sent them home to type corrected versions, which they would hand in along with their classroom drafts. I would then check to see that they had incorporated my corrections. I gave each student a half-grade bonus for completing the corrected version.

    Granted, that strategy cost my students precious classroom time, but based on reports from the “postmodern” classroom predominating under many of my colleagues, it was time well spent.

  • nicholasstix

    Higher ed is today run by people who have no notion of intellectual integrity, and who destroy faculty members who punish student cheaters. An institution with standards would never have an “Office of Student Retention.” “Retention,” which is rationalized via the sophistry of arguing for the need to increase graduation rates, is a euphemism for sucking every last tuition dollar out of every student. Academics with integrity would not be ashamed to flunk unqualified students out of school.
    Then again, they would have refused to admit manifestly unqualified students, in the first place. Indeed, the easiest way to increase graduation rates is to stop admitting unqualified students.
    Another reason why enforcing rules of academic integrity is hopeless is that American academia has for over a generation insisted that a flagrant plagiarist was the greatest human being in the history of the planet [hereafter: Superman], that his stealing of other’s work has no bearing on the judging of his plagiaries or status as an “intellectual,” and that an academic has even produced pseudo-scholarship creating a non-existent cultural tradition which supposedly negates the very notion of plagiarism for members of Superman’s group.
    http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2008/01/plagiarism-and-culture-war-writings-of.html

  • 12080243

    As noted in other comments, and I agree, plagiarism is a complex issue. As important, and probably more complex, is how universities handle accusations of plagiarism. Research on the behavior and consequences of administrators and colleagues is available online at the Social Science Research Network. See, “Is Accreditation a Reliable Authority of Academic Quality? Testing Social Reality” and “University and AACSB Diversity.” See, http://ssrn.com/author=397169.

    “Is Accreditation a Reliable Authority on Academic Quality” Abstract: During preparations for reaccreditation, a colleague noticed that the College Accreditation Committee represented other Colleges’ documents as their own. He consulted several faculty including this researcher. We advised the Dean and Committee that the documents were without attribution. The events were immediately identified as an opportunity to test social reality – the reliability – of institutions’ and leaders’ behavior vis-à-vis the institution’s representations. (See, “A General Theory to Test Social Reality.”)

    The Dean and Committee members ignored requests to discuss the copied documents. Subsequently, the Dean submitted the questionable materials to the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business (AACSB) during reaccreditation. After internal efforts, both informal and formal, to discuss the documents failed, faculty informed the AACSB that the documents were copied “without proper citation” – a term used by faculty who copied other
    school’s documents. The actions of the AACSB inform their constituency and public of a neglected dimension of accreditation: What does the AACSB do when challenged with evidence of alleged violations of its standards? In other words, is the AACSB a reliable authority on academic quality?

    Faculty and administrators had choices of well-known university and accreditation principles and rules to follow or refuse to follow as the events unfolded. The choices and evidence in this report support the conclusion that accreditation is not a reliable authority on academic quality.

    Related research includes: “A General Theory to Test Social Reality” and “University and AACSB Diversity” also available online from the Social Science Research Network: See, http://ssrn.com/author=397169.

    Chauncey M. DePree, Jr., DBA, Professor, School of Accountancy, College of Business, University of Southern Mississippi, m.depree@usm.edu

  • green_hornist

    This is a preposterous generalization.  And ironically it is perpetuated mostly by faculty members who think money should magically appear to support their agenda of teaching what they want, when they want, and how they want.  If an Office of Enrollment Management exists to help ensure more enrollments and more graduations, (1) is that really a bad thing? and (2) is it really a bad thing if the end result is enough income coming into the school so that professors will continue to have jobs and get paid?

    I completely agree that pretending that students succeed when they don’t is not a good idea at all, no matter what the motive.  But if professors wish to remain employed and paid, they might be glad the institution is doing something to help ensure there will be enough students for them all to teach.

  • atindrasen

    My experience on peer grading is that it does not reflect the quality of the students’ presentation. Most evaluations are way above what I thought was a fair grade.

  • bander40

    I understand how Turnitin works, and I have used and evaluated it myself as a college instructor. I think you missed my philosophical point.  While using this program may help some students avoid the consequences of cheating, as you say, others (like myself) will resent having to prove their work to be plagiarism-free before it’s been graded. As a somewhat older student, I was especially annoyed because I had never had to do this before. I currently use my own critical judgment to detect plagiarism, and this seems to work fine.

  • snowbound

    So Dr Ipeorotis, by this own admission, maintained high
    evaluations by turning a blind eye to cheating!  Is that how you got tenure then, Dr I? 
    The notion that  the
    untenured can’t pursue plagiarism is absurd.  Many of my untenured colleagues are among the most diligent
    in pursuing plagiarism.  I turned
    in many plagiarists in the two universities that I worked at before I got
    tenure.  My diligence was
    appreciated by my superiors and word got around among students that I checked
    everything and had zero tolerance for plagiarists (which has a considerable
    deterrent effect!). It did mean that I had to rely on strong teaching skills to
    get good evaluations. Sounds like Dr Ipeorotis was fostering the opposite kind of reputation—“Sign up for his class!
    He’s a cool dude—he’ll let you get away with anything!”  And all so that he could curry enough
    favor among the dishonest to artificially boost his evaluations!  There’s a word for your behavior, Dr Ipeorotis– it’s called “cheating.”    

    P.S. BTW, this is yet another example of how worthless student evaluations are–they reward people like this guy so long as he cheats.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Stix/721916225 Nicholas Stix

    @hoffpeter:

    “This is a preposterous generalization.”

    To what were you referring?

    And how is it “preposterous”? Are you always so vague in your usage?

    “And ironically…”

    You clearly do not know what “irony” means.

    I already explained why offices of “retention” are bad. You now act as though I had not discussed the matter, and offer “questions” that I had already answered.

    After telling me that I was being ridiculous in your first paragraph, in your second paragraph you agree with me (“I completely agree”), before contradicting that (“But”), and returning to your denunciation. With such a talent for vagueness and er, “flexibility,” regarding the truth and scruples, you ought to go into politics!

    By the way, no institution I ever taught at did anything “to help ensure there will be enough students for them all to teach.” They cared only about providing full-time work for unconstitutionally protected affirmative action groups (and cronies), most of which jobs were in the administration, not in the classroom. Classroom jobs were profit centers: We made money for the institution; the institution didn’t help us.

    http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2008/04/garden-state-grade-inflation-in-higher.html

  • green_hornist

    “This is a preposterous generalization.”

    To what were you referring?

    SINCE “YOUR ENTIRE POST” WON’T SATISFY YOU, LET’S JUST TAKE THE FIRST SENTENCE:  “Higher ed is today run by people who have no notion of intellectual integrity, and who destroy faculty members who punish student cheaters.”  THAT IS, WITHOUT QUESTION, A PREPOSTEROUS GENERALIZATION.  NOT EVEN ASSERTING YOUR GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO HYPERBOLE WILL RESCUE IT.

    And how is it “preposterous”? Are you always so vague in your usage?

    SEEMS TO ME IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF AND CAN’T PASS A STRAIGHT-FACE OR SMELL TEST.

    AS TO  WHAT I “ALWAYS” DO, I’M SATISFIED THAT MUCH OF MY SUCCESSFUL CAREER SPRANG DIRECTLY FROM MY ABILITY TO TO WRITE CLEARLY AND REASONABLY.

    “And ironically…”

    You clearly do not know what “irony” means.

    AGAIN, NOT TO RELY TOO MUCH ON CREDENTIALS ALONE, BUT MY CLEAR EXPLICATION OF IRONY IN FICTION WAS THE FOUNDATION OF MY STANFORD DOCTORAL THESIS.  IT PASSED MUSTER WITH A PRETTY HIGH-POWERED DISSERTATION COMMITTEE.  PERHAPS THEY DON’T TEACH IRONY AS WELL AT THE UNIVERSITY AT THE CORNER OF LENOX AVENUE.

    HOWEVER, CREDENTIALS ALONE ARE NOT PARTICULARLY GERMANE TO YOUR ISSUES.  I’M SIMPLY POINTING OUT THAT A VERY SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE PROFESSORIATE, CLEARLY INCLUDING YOU, RANTS AGAINST PEOPLE AND INFRASTRUCTURES WITHOUT WHICH YOU WOULD HAVE NO STUDENTS AND NO JOBS.  YOU TRULY DO ACT AS IF YOU THOUGHT THE UNIVERSITY’S OPERATING BUDGET AND ITS STUDENTS WOULD SIMPLY BE THERE (AS IF BY MAGIC) TO SUPPORT YOU NO MATTER WHAT.  AND THE PURE AND SIMPLE EXISTENCE OF YOUR INCREDIBLE MIND AND TEACHINGS ARE ENOUGH TO GUARANTEE THAT YOU WILL ALWAYS BE EMPLOYED.

  • austinbarry

    so Turnitin catches the lazy who don’t  paraphrase or even make a few global changes to the passages they borrow. 

  • http://www.dramanite.com kimbowa

    I suppose it also raises questions about the types of assessment being used.  There are many approaches that can minimise the benefit of plagiarism… the most straightforward being posing active tasks that require the student to position themselves at the core of activity.  The relationship with skill and knowledge becomes the key that stops simople regurgitation of material… and it more readily verifiable as original work.  Like many institutions globally I suggest thta NYU has its fair share of very low order assessment tasks operating in classrooms where subject expertise is the mark the teacbher rather than their capabilty in teaching… both are necessary…  

    I suspect the key error here was relyiing on an external mechanism to assess a fairly traditional assessment task… of course, its just a suspicion.

  • http://patrickyan.net Patrick

    Except that all freshmen are required to go through a plagiarism tutorial and sign a certificate saying they will not plagiarize or facilitate plagiarism.

    Plus most high schools nowadays also use Turnitin and teach students clearly what plagiarism is. No student wouldn’t know that copy and pasting from websites, blogs, and Wikipedia is plagiarism.

  • http://patrickyan.net Patrick

    Even though they lack common sense, these people managed to get into Stern (not a terribly difficult feat, but they can’t be complete idiots). Sternies don’t necessarily have a high respect for academics. All you need to do is pull off a good interview and have good connections, both of which the frats prepare you well for.

  • http://patrickyan.net Patrick

    They are. But links to fill course evaluations are unique and tied to a student. The name is anonymous to the teacher.

  • John Morrison

    Then maybe the entitled brats called “students” must might try refraining from cheating. Disgusting.  Every time a faculty member tries to rein in cheating, he is put on trial by his institution. The cheaters have won, abetted by the cowardice of academic administrators.

  • http://twitter.com/urbie4 John Kafalas

    Prof. Ipeirotis, my suggestion — which would completely eliminate cheating, with 100% certainty — is to substitute a 5-minute oral exam for whatever kind of term papers and assignments you’re currently doing.  In 5 minutes, you can easily tell if the student knows the material — there’s no way to cheat. It would also save you a lot of time!

  • wattssal

    If NYU’s Stern is serious about graduating ethical business professionals, it needs to examine its whole culture. What explicit and implicit messages do students and faculty get about ethics, honesty and cheating? What are students’ and faculty’s perceptions of the degree that those messages are reinforced, and their violation punished? Einstein reminded us that “some things that are easy to measure don’t matter much; many things that are very difficult to measure matter a great deal.”  Academic institutions need to get better at measuring actual desired outcomes like what graduates actually learned, and their ethical mindsets, vs. variations of faculty popularity contests.

  • nematoda

    I looked up the AP style guide and found the following: aside from the medical profession, the only other profession for which the title “Dr.” can be used is for “clergymen who hold earned or honorary doctorates.” Ironic. A clergy person who holds a honorary doctorate is a “Dr.” but not an academic who holds an actual doctorate. In any case, I still wonder how an academic site justifies not addressing those who hold an academic Ph.D. as “Mr.”

  • blue_state_academic

    Before we indict NYU and NYU students as a whole, let’s remember this was a course at the Stern School of Business.  ‘nuf said.

  • guttentag

    Regarding student evaluations – and their relative subjectivity – I think part of the problem may be the ambiguity of the questions and what they mean to students. At our institution one of the questions on our evaluation form is “I found the laboratory activity to be useful.” Now the course I’ve been teaching for the past five years doesn’t involve a lab, but nevertheless every semester the pattern looks generally like this for this particular question: Approximately half the class scores the question “Not Applicable” – the “right” answer. Twenty-five percent will give me a very low score – probably assuming that there should have been a lab since the question was asked in the first place; this I can understand. What always amazes me is the remaining 25% who will rate me very high on the lab even though there wasn’t one.

  • antonydnes

    Unseen closed-book exam?

  • bepps

    Mr. Ingo’s statement that “the course evaluation input of any student who has an honor code infraction is removed from consideration when evaluating teaching performance” invites scrutiny.  Either that’s simply not the case, or it means NYU is somehow tying individual, supposedly anonymous evaluations to individual students.  That’s not best practice as I understand it for collecting honest student feedback.  That being said, I agree with others who point out the very real limits of asking students to make informed and substantive observations about teaching effectiveness and achievement of learning objectives.

  • caveat2

    After teaching economics and business courses for 30 years, and being a dean of a school of business, I support Professor I and his valiant objectives. My experience is that cheating was rampant on my campus in all courses unless prevented by the prof. For exams ( we had small classes most of the time), I put a chair between each test taker, walked up and down each row, stood in the back corner of the class and watch heads and hands, and prohibited anything except a pen and non-programmable calculators without memory  on the desks and table. Students were not allowed to leave their seats for questions until then handed me their exams and answers.

    For research papers, I was familiar enough with most of their writing stye that I could almost always be correct when questioning sources.

    Lots of other techniques were developed over my tenure in the academy, but I always assumed that students were so used to getting away with cheating, they were going to engage in cheating unless I made it very difficult  for them to be able to cheat.

    ps: one of my students had a parent who was on the Board. The student still failed the course due to his own behavior, and the “F” stood the “test of time.” Ironically, the student continued to thank me in his email communications to me for being a “great teacher” long after he flunked out of our college.

  • paulkurucz

    I got the boot from teaching PT at a small private university because I refused to use Turnitin. But I stuck to my guns:  I will not destroy the trust between teacher and learner that is necessary for any real learning to take place by implicitly telling students that I am expecting that they will cheat. “Guilty until proven innocent” does not lay a foundation of trust in a classroom. I now teach at a public university that supports me.

    Oh, and as Panagiotis is noted as saying in this article, the real challenges are in the curriculum, assignments, assessment methods, and teaching.  Work on creating a better system and you eliminate the problem.

    How I have eliminated cheating – it is not even an issue on my radar now:

    - Authentic, real-world, constructive class work and assignments that require draft submissions, coaching by myself, oral defense, presentations, and open sourcing.  Lots of work for me? Yup. But worth it. Students love the attention and I love our class times together.  Energizing!

    - Rewards:  For one International Marketing assignment where students have to construct an online business, get real sales, and report regularly in public on their progress, I offer venture funding to the best projects (as voted by the class) if the students continue them as real businesses after the course ends.  I use other small rewards, too, like chocolate bars for best class contributions, etc.

    - Unique, open book case study exams – impossible to cheat on. Rather than knowledge-based assessments, I use current, authentic case situations that challenge each student to analyze, decide, support, create, craft, etc. They LOVE the fact that they are working on something real and that I am challenging them to think and create solutions and new approaches.  And it ceases to even feel like an assessment, because it really isn’t: These case situations are just another learning experience – but one that I use to assess student learning with.

    - Transparency = trust = engagement = original work:  My courses are completely transparent. I publish everything on Moodle upfront, including clear criteria-based assessments for all the assessments in the term. In principle, every student can get an A+ in my course. I still get normal distributions of grades, but they tend to shift up a notch or two so that I get a lot of grades in the 75-85% range. Transparency simply works.

    I know cheating is a challenging question and passionately discussed and agonized over.  For me it comes down to a philosophical question:

    Do I want to teach or do I want to punish?

  • jeffstevens61

    Yes and it is much more widespread than those who do not check know about. I think everyone should experiment with plagiarism checkers like Turnitin. See what happens.Many of you will be appalled.

  • http://www.joannao.blogspot.com JoannaOC

    Why not Prof. Ipeirotis?

  • http://www.joannao.blogspot.com JoannaOC

    What Prof. Ipeirotis describes is a very real set of issues instructors must deal with, even when it does not involve cheating per se, but merely applying high standards. It is a drag to teach hostile students who turn their shame at getting caught into sullen behavior in class. But that is part of their education; bad behavior should have consequences.

    I support Prof. Ipeirotis in challenging us to think seriously about
    this issue, especially instructors WITHOUT tenure are actively
    discouraged from displeasing their students by the fact that they can be
    unemployed as a result. One issue that merits more discussion within the insitution is lazy evaluation of faculty by their peers. Too often, student evaluations are treated as “customer satsifaction” ratings by departments, and salary decisions are affected when someones tries out something new, has stricter standards, or calls students on bad behavior. This is especially tough in department with non tenture-track instructors becoming the majority.

    For what it’s worth, I announce a plagiarism policy in the syllabus, demonstrate in class how easy it is for me to detect plagiarism, post a link to my institution’s Academic Dishonesty policy, and design assignments in which students must show the stages of their work as well as the result, which makes it harder (although not impossible) to turn in someone else’s work as one’s own. I have seen fewer cases of outright plagiarism as a result, and I document and report all cases to my University’s Academic Dishonesty service; this means that cheaters in my class are on record if they are caught cheating in another class.

    Because I have tenure, I can ride out the dips in evaluations, but I also have had to fight back at the department level to prevent superficial use of evaluations by my colleagues from becoming part of my merit review.

  • gadget

    The legislature of the State of Texas is considering different ways to award state funding to community colleges. Currently, the formula is based on contact hours. The legislature is trying to tie funding to performance, rather than “seat time.” One option seriously discussed is to fund CCs based on the numbers of students who achieve milestones, like completing courses, certificates, and graduating.

    The pressure this kind of scheme would put on faculty is enormous. We won’t be worried about cheating anymore: Our college/employer’s funding would depend on students completing courses with at least a C and ultimately graduating! It would take the worst practices of the for-profits and inject them into the public higher education system: you pay your money, you get a degree. Teaching and learning would be irrelevant.

    Of course, some in the lege are also advocating that students be awarded a tuition voucher which they can use at any higher ed institution. This proposal is designed to take public funding and direct it to the private, for profit businesses that are called colleges and universities but are not. Yes, Rick Perry supports these schemes–one of his closest “advisers” owns a for-profit graduate school. and is very active in remolding Texas higher ed.

    The free market crazies and big investors are looking at the huge amount of money that goes into the public educational systems and are engaged in a long term privatization effort, chipping away bit by bit (charter schools, anyone?). I can actually see them funding charter colleges.

    Cheating? Academic integrity?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=69401472 Camilla Brannen Baker

    Ok, late to the argument, but I’m going to chime in anyway. It seems to me that this argument begs to be recast. As long as we are teaching anti-cheating, we can expect backlash, and fairly so. It’s one things to acknowledge *to yourself* that most of your students cheat at one time or another; and if you’ve parented through this age group, it’s a basic assumption. It’s another thing, however, to announce to your students that you assume *all of them* are going to cheat, via the Turnitin model. Your best students are going to be insulted, again fairly. Why don’t we just do a better job of teaching documentation, its purposes and functions, and why our disciplines follow the conventions they do? Teach them why, not just how, which they’ve had in high school and no doubt found boring. Plagiarism detection software can’t do this, but someone with a PhD in his/her discipline can. Teach your students how to behave like scholars, instead telling them that you know they cheat. And if they persist in being dishonest, throw the book at them. One of the dirty secrets is that college students cheat because the habit has not yet been graded out of them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=784075183 Melinda Whetstone

    Will someone please explain Mr. Ingo’s comment: “…the course evaluation input of any student who has an honor code
    infraction is removed from consideration when evaluating teaching
    performance.”  Our students fill out anonymous evaluations.  Is this not the policy elsewhere?

  • green_hornist

    Well put.  That’s pretty much the way I see it; but you said it better.

  • green_hornist

    . . . .what I said previously, with one clarifying caveat.  I agree that we should “throw the book at them” “If they persist,” as you put it.  In other words, and apparently unlike many of the more bloodthirsty commenters in this thread,  I do not believe that a single instance of cheating (be it plagiarism or copying answers on a quiz or whatever) is an expulsion offense, and normally not even cause in and of itself to flunk the course.  My approach is to reward cheating with an F on the assignment cheated.  But as you say, “if they persist” . . . . . .

  • aaaatobbbb

    Dr. Ipeirotis,
    In the last 2-3 years of grad school in US, I have found that the professors give the same home work assignments every year. Not all professors publish previous years’ course material freely on the web and/or change HW and exam questions every year. The students who have previous years’ materials get As. Students who made an honest attempt, even if he deserves a B+ or A-, due to relative grading (grading on a curve), get a B- or C. 

    Is this problem very hard to understand for a professor who has a PhD ? I think profs are implicitly downgrading the quality of education and making us (the new generation of students and scholars) pretty much useless. 

    Your counter argument would be that a student is not supposed to look up previous year exams/HWs or cheat. But, when some students do it, it tempts others also to follow the same path. 

    Cheating reduces student-professor interaction, which is exactly what professors want. Because, they want to publish for tenure or professional society fellowships. It is a sad state of affairs. 

    In many countries, home works have absolutely no weight-age on the final grade, which will be entirely based on final exams. Also, in many countries, the final exam question paper is set by a professor from some other university, just to avoid cheating. In such a scenario, the student really reads broadly from reference books, rather than sticking to course notes. Such a system will prepare a student better. Why cannot such a system be followed in US?

    Second: cheating happens in grad school on a regular basis. I have seen many university research labs, where all the previous year exam papers, course materials of lab research related courses are arranged neatly in large folders and kept in the lab. Since, (1) new students take the same courses, as those courses relate to their future research and  (2) professors do not change the question papers for ages, you can glide through grad school without much hassle. 

    This is the reality. I hope some body will sue me for telling the truth. Even though I have discussed this with some professors, I did not get a direct response. Moreover, a student can never muster up the courage to show lacunae in their system (professors’), as students’ career totally depends on recommendation letters of their professors. Sometimes, it looks like the whole system is rigged.

  • http://www.facebook.com/LalilaliGigi Gloriby Gigi Garcia

    Sadly enough, I have to disagree with Dr. Ipeirotis. On one hand, I understand his sentiment and can agree with how micromanaging plagiarism can create an awful aura of dread in the classroom… if it isn’t addressed the right way:)..

    Recently, I attended two different institutions:

    #1) Charter College – A private, for-profit school with no entry standards, limited over-worked staff (some of which were experienced, professional and educated, others who were not), poor and almost non-existent management structure and… NO methods for forcing instructors to check for plagiarism.

    #2) Wayland Baptist University – A private, non-profit school with average entry standards, an abundance of doctoral (and candidate) level seasoned professors, a stable, consistent and dependable management staff, and Blackboard with an integrated and automated plagiarism police.

    During my time at Charter College, I designed and implemented a class that taught the fundamentals of research and writing techniques. I voluntarily taught on Saturday’s to group after group of lost and confused adults, whom had been out of school for many years. My purpose for teaching the class was to offer something that the school refused to offer – guidance. In every Charter College class, students were required to complete a final research paper in APA 6th Edition format. Most of the students had never even heard of it, let alone understood the reason behind it or how to use it. Unfortunately, even more students had difficulty putting together a simple, cohesive paragraph in English.

    Personally, I could not allow my time to pass there knowing that these students were copying and pasting their way to a degree. I didn’t like what I saw, so I tried to change it. Even after leaving the school, and attempting to make a difference in the curriculum and entrance requirements – all I was told (by an exiting interim Dean, nonetheless) was that the school was “planning on addressing those issues in their next corporate meeting.” I don’t know if they have changed since then (April of 2011), and I don’t exactly care to find out. However, the point of all of this is that although (some) instructors tried tediously to prevent plagiarism, students still cheated. Relentlessly. If the teachers were to have checked EACH and every student’s paper, they would have had to academically dismiss over 80% of the student body. In turn, they would have lost their jobs or suffered severe financial distress. I don’t think it’s right, or fair, to sacrifice quality education standards for profit. Isn’t that what accreditation is there to prevent? Hmmmm…

    In comparing the entire situation to attending Wayland Baptist University, I am assuming the software update occurred during a class already in session (at NYU)? You see, at WBU the students are well aware of the fact that an integrated program on the Blackboard will automatically check assignments submitted online (SafeAssignments). All students are required to attend a basic research and writing fundamental course that (through the course) teaches students, step by step, how to complete a collegiate-level research paper without plagiarizing. Up to 40% of a student’s paper can “match” another source, and instructors have the discretion to ignore citations, quotes, and other obvious contributing “matches.” Week by week, each student becomes accustomed to the program by first submitting a paragraph assignment, later an article critique, and so on. This process prepares each student, and establishes a foundation of expectations with one-on-one guidance along the way.

    The purpose behind utilizing the integrated software is to make the teacher’s job easier, not more difficult. How difficult would it be to sit for countless hours, Googling one paper at a time to “double check” the authenticity of a thought?

    It is absolutely imperative that, as a society, we embrace this tool in classrooms everywhere. The process helps to build independent thinkers, reinforces creative ideologies and demands higher expectations from what has become a sad state of American education. I don’t believe it should be enough to pass with the bare minimum of having simply gone through the motions. Our education system has shamefully transformed into a system of pass/fails in order to fit every student into a low standard mold. The process of forcing students to think, and automatically weeding out those that haven’t put forth the effort is a great leap towards refining the final product of American post-secondary education.

    I don’t think it should be looked upon with disdain on behalf of a professor. It shouldn’t create a wall between the student/teacher relationships. Instead, it should be considered as just a tool.

    As one of my favorite professors (Dr. Ashley, WBU) once said, “Plagiarism isn’t always cheating. And cheating isn’t always plagiarism. Some folks just need to learn that they have the potential to put their great ideas on paper. SafeAssignments tells you what you did wrong, but I’m here to show you how to do it right.”

  • helen53

    One of the problems is that the evaluations from students caught cheating cannot be weeded out because the evaluations are, of course, anonymous.  (And there are other related problems with student evaluations, as we who teach know.)

  • drisner1

    I’ve just started to follow the latest installment of Riley’s journalistic diatribe and beyond the lack of any credentials whatsoever, inflammatory approach, and completely uniformed perspective, I too find the CHE most at fault here, and then second, to all of those who have given any worth at all to Riley’s original piece, I ask “How insecure is higher education any way? Who is Riley beyond a Harvard undergraduate blogger? From her own website:

    Naomi Schaefer Riley is a former Wall Street Journal editor and writer whose work focuses on higher education, religion, philanthropy and culture. She is the author of God on the Quad: How Religious Colleges and the Missionary Generation Are Changing America, and most recently of The Faculty Lounges … And Other Reasons Why You Won’t Get the College Education You Pay For. Riley is also the co-editor of Acculturated, a book of essays on pop culture and virtue published this spring by the Templeton Press. Ms. Riley’s writings have appeared in the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, the Boston Globe, the LA Times, and the Washington Post, among other publications. She is a contributor to the Chronicle of Higher Education’s Brainstorm blog.

    Ms. Riley has given guest lectures at schools around the country, including Hillsdale College (where she offered a two-week journalism seminar), New York University, the University of Notre Dame, the College of the Holy Cross, Grove City College and Bethel College.

    She graduated magna cum laude from Harvard University in English and Government. She lives in the suburbs of New York with her husband, Jason, and their two children.

    Why would we ever take anything Riley said the least bit seriously? …other than it was published in CHE. Shame on CHE and shame on us/me–for giving this the four minutes it’s taken me to post here. (Oh, I know–more hits, more responses,more site activity, more “CHE-is-so-relevant.” Not so, we should all see through it.

  • pocvecem

    It may sound strange, but I am not convinced that students in any field are the best people to ask if the field is good for them.  Any academic department is going to try to instill a sense in its students that its program is good for them.  If the students say the program is good for them, it could mean that they have accepted the department’s advertising. 

    It’s also clear from the debate that there is more than one type of “Black Studies.”   The kind of “Black Studies” you mention is something few have expressed any problem with.  Some have asked about whether it isn’t redundant with other university offerings, and other have questioned it as a form of segregation, but that’s about it.  (The other “Black Studies” is based on critical theory and has taken a lot of lumps for methodological issues.) 

    My listing of topics was not an argument for “Black Studies” in either form.  It was a recognition that a knowledge of Black history and culture is legitimate and valuable.  It makes no case for the departmental context of where the work takes place.

    And I should note one other thing.  My last line was not an expression of disdain for a whole group of people.  I was talking about who I’d rather have to deal with.  With people like NSR, I know what I’m dealing with.  With the “lefties who (often incorrectly) consider themselves anti-racist,” I can never quite know what my concerns with these people need to be.  What I’m saying is that I don’t much like being around sheep because 50% (or whatever percentage) of the sheep are wolves and it’s impossible to tell the difference.  I’m not saying that all of the lefty anti-racists are wolves, although I would argue that some of their intellectual products enable the wolves to walk around in sheep’s clothing.

  • cbrandon

    I, like most readers, am aghast at the article by Riley. What I fail to understand is the need for a public journalist to be writing for the CHE. As a graduate student, I do not have a subscription to the CHE to read what outsiders have to say about academia. Granted, outside perception of the academy is indeed important in the way we conduct our business. However, I read the CHE for it’s information about the profession (and I prefer to read the actual professionals). I wonder if, perhaps, in critically misjudging its readership by hiring Riley as an inflammatory writer to stir controversy, the CHE will not end up achieving the opposite of its desired outcome. Namely, readership will turn away from such ‘spectacle’ writing (I felt like it was an episode of Jerry Springer – because her qualifications to evaluate scholarship are about as relevant as his).

    I should like to think that we hold criticism, especially scathing condemnatory criticism, to a higher standard than the one she displays (i.e. Her “I don’t have to read a dissertation to comment on it” quip). 

    Such sensationalist hiring practices on the part of the chronicle show yet another example of the ‘reality television’ world we have moved into. She’s no different than someone in line at the grocery store screaming into her phone so everyone else understands that she is displeased. In Riley’s case, however, I suspect she likes stirring the pot (which pot she’s never actually looked into).

  • pocvecem

    I think some historical background may be in order.  (If someone can find the old discussions and provide links, that would be great.)

    Before NSR was brought onto Brainstorm, there was a smaller flurry of intense controversy about a liberal-leaning attack on religion or conservatives.  During the discussion, the question was raised of why Brainstorm had so many liberal columnists and only one conservative.  An editor joined the discussion and invited the submission of names.  I don’t remember NSR’s name coming up publicly; I remember suggesting Mike Adams (a criminal justice prof at one of the UNC campuses who writes a column over at Townhall) and a few other names were tossed around.  NSR is what we got. 

    As a practical matter, it is relatively difficult to find conservatives in academe working on topics of culture, which is a major part of what the Brainstorm blog purports to be.  The research methods in those fields have largely been subjected to leftist politicization and most people not toeing the political line can’t or don’t want to stick around.

    The selection of NSR, despite the problems you mentioned, points to a larger issue.  The Chronicle needed to move towards balancing out all of the leftist rhetoric that had gotten out of hand (and still is out of hand) and their choices were limited.  We have no way of knowing how many others declined an invitation.  With the Brainstorm audience (and academe in general) leaning as liberal and as closed to conservative ideas as it does, it’s not hard to imagine anyone of reasonable prominence refusing to put themselves in front of that firing line. 

    I’m torn between defending the Chronicle and not defending it.  NSR is not the person I would want representing conservatism to people who have little other exposure to it.  At the same time, the Chronicle was responding to a real need by hiring her and she may have been the most accomplished person of anyone who was willing. 

  • thomaslawrencelong

    A longstanding theme for black American intellectuals (going all the way back to Phillis Wheatley, at least): Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

    Viz. — The work is derivative. It’s not his/her work. It’s not a work of “genius” because it’s too parochial and not universal. It’s not sufficiently intellectual (and not “white” enough). It’s too intellectual and not “black” enough. &c. &c.

    Then again, it’s always open season on the topics/titles of scholarly labor, even in sciences. So let’s welcome these emerging scholars to the media fray. As long as you’re doing groundbreaking, interesting work that you are passionate about, you’re going to miff somebody.

    Oh, and cultural dimensions of health and health care (e.g. Black midwifery)? Well documented that they are inextricable from empirical health outcomes, and well established as an object of quantitative and qualitative studies.

  • pacifica888

    I agree, too. I’m still trying to decide if I will renew my subscription after CHE published that piece of anti-intellectual, ignorant, racism.

  • sabdale

    Dr. Gasman, as a current doctoral candidate it is evident that the Chronicle of Higher Education are in cahoots with publishing such “hateful and uniformed diatribe crap” as stated by Mr. Morrison below.  It is clear that the disdain she feels is a reflection of her insecurity, a feeling shared by white supremacist thoughts and action. This insecurity has a historical root, since the development of the “SAT tests and the Intelligent Quotient test” means of downplaying black intelligence and upholding the thoughts that whites are intellectually superior. We need to inform Ms. Riley we are the pioneers in Natural Science, Social Science and Liberal Arts.

  • 22261984

    If Naomi Schaefer Riley is a racist, this will come as devasting news to her husband, who is black, and to their children.

  • jamesebryan

    It’s not saying much for the conservative cause if she’s the best they can manage to find, given the slapdash nature of her work.  Surely there are other conservative writers (maybe even some who are academics) out there who can actually muster evidence to support their opinions, rather than just dash off things as poorly reasoned and stridently obnoxious as Riley’s last piece.  Methinks the editors didn’t look very hard, or beyond the usual suspects of high profile punditry, or weren’t making very tempting offers, if they couldn’t scrounge up a better advocate for conservative viewpoints.  There have to be at least a few conservative professors somewhere in the 3000 plus colleges and universities in this country who could be both more persuasive and less offensive than she.  Or, perhaps it’s a leftist conspiracy to make the right look as bad as possible by providing a venue for a very loose cannon?

  • http://twitter.com/jsh0071 Jim

    Whats all the fuss about? I really don’t want to upset anyone by pointing out that with the advent of affirmative action the  accomplishments of many black scholars are regarded as spurious at best by large numbers of people , spoken or unspoken.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Illesam-Cram/100002324902884 Illesam Cram

    if the benefits are so compelling, perhaps they should study abroad (in Africa) where they can be in a majority-black environment.

  • belgian_beer

    Yes, I’m sure.