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U. of Virginia Agrees to Release Climate Researcher’s E-Mails

May 25, 2011, 2:29 pm

The University of Virginia has agreed to turn over a potentially enormous trove of climate-research e-mails and other documents to a conservative group that filed a demand for them under the state’s Freedom of Information Act. The demand centers on more than a decade’s worth of e-mail messages from, to, and about Michael E. Mann, a climate scientist who left the university in 2005 to become director of a research center at Pennsylvania State University. The organization, called the American Tradition Institute, joined with a Republican state legislator to file its request after the university went to court to fight an attempt by Virginia’s attorney general, Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II, to use a different law to get the same documents, which he said he needed to investigate possible climate-research fraud. In a court document signed yesterday, the university said it would produce the materials within three months.

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  • geoz32

    What a chilling decision. 
    I’m sure Yahoo and GMail will be pleased at the opportunity to have more customers signing up to avoid this kind of disclosure. 

  • lexalexander

    If you work for state government, you work for the public. Cuccinelli and ATI’s motivations are hardly disinterested or even sincere, but if you work for the public, then by and large you need to work IN public, and the motives of those seeking public records are irrelevant..

  • 11159766

    Does ANYONE seriously believe — or even try to argue — that this pursuit of climate scientists is about producing better science?

  • 11122741

    oh, i misread you post. i thought you said about the pursuit of better science which would be a great improvement for climate scientists and particularly those from the UK.  Google Cyril Burt and Galton and see what you come up with relative to data and science.

  • megginson

    This is chilling indeed, particularly since the result is preordained – somewhere in that enormous batch of e-mails will be some offhand comment or even single noun (remember “trick”?) that can be taken out of context to continue the smear campaign against Mann.

    But, everyone, please be careful about that retreat to Yahoo or GMail under the assumption that it will protect you from FOIA-type requests, because it doesn’t. If it did, every public university administrator, city official, athletic director at a state university, etc. who is one of the favorite targets of FOIA attacks would have abandoned their “official” e-mail accounts long ago. If a document or other record is created that is arguably related to a person’s official role in a public organization such as a city council or state university, it is subject to FOIA-type disclosure, even if it was written on the back of a pine plank nailed to the person’s bedroom wall. I know of one case where a member of a public organization’s governing board went home after a board meeting and wrote up some notes from memory using personal paper and writing instruments, only to discover to the person’s dismay that the resulting record was subject to a FOIA fishing expedition. Yes, one can probably evade the law easier if one uses Yahoo or GMail to send messages, but the personal consequences for such evasion can be quite severe if discovered, and people who are subject to FOIA attacks are generally counseled fairly strongly by their employers not to consider going there, but just to grit teeth and fork the stuff over.

  • raymond_j_ritchie

    Witch-hunting is alive and well in Virginia. 
    The invertebrate nature of the University of Virginia is also apparent.
    As for Cuccinelli & the American Tradition Institute (whoever they are) the parable about casting the first stone comes to mind.
    A charming french minister in the 17th century boasted that “Give me two lines of a man’s handwriting and I will find a reason to hang them.”  A determined witch-hunter would find something sinister in all the spam I get every day.  Did I open it? Did I trash it without opening it?  Had the system at my university classified it as “Spam” and yet I still opened it?
    As a working scientist I trash analyses and data every day based on my judgement of what it is worth. I change drafts of my papers all the time as my ideas develop.  Am I committing fraud?  I do not think so.  I am using my judgement (right or wrong). 

  • orwellsdisciple

    No digit man, leave Burt, Galton, and google out of it altogether.  Instead read the papers relevant to AGW published in the peer-reviewed literature.  Provided you can comprehend, I’m sure you’ll find come up with lots relative to data and science.

  • SophieMerry

    This is going to be fun! “Hide the decline!” indeed!

  • SophieMerry

    Ah, the spinning begins.

  • SophieMerry

    “A charming french minister in the 17th century boasted that ‘Give me two lines of a man’s handwriting and I will find a reason to hang them.’”

    Or, as our good friends at the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit put it, “give me two temperature data points and we’ll have everyone believe the climate is ‘warming!’”

  • ssaulvolk

    It strikes me that this is not about “if you work for the public, you work IN the public” a la Wisconsin.(using state resources for political purposes). This is about “fraud,” i.e., a crime allegedly being committed (the use of funds for purposes for which they were not intended). This is more than the results being “pre-ordained,” it is an attempt to threaten those the state disagrees with that they will find something that will put their opponents in jail. We (as a nation) despise it when foreign governments threaten their intellectuals with imprisonment for expressing independent opinions: can someone tell me why this doesn’t stink in just the same way?

  • rrdaniel2

    If I am not mistaken, UVa is a private institution, not a state school, although it does receive some federal and state funds.

  • lexalexander

    I think you’re thinking of Penn.

  • lexalexander

    You may well be right, hence my observation that Cuccinelli/ATI are hardly disinterested. That said, public records are, well, public, and records received or created by public agencies in their normal course of business are presumptively public (and damned well ought to be). If Cuccinelli and his friends are on a witch hunt — and I suspect they’re seeking a PR victory, not to wrongfully imprison anyone, though I could be wrong about that — the way to deal with that problem is not by illegally denying access to public records. In Cuccinelli’s case, disbarment would be the appropriate response for PR mischief and prison for trying to jail anyone on trumped-up “fraud” charges.

    I quite unironically advocate public hanging for all public officials who violate their oaths of office. And yet I am frequently mischaracterized as “liberal.” Go figure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/evan.murdock Evan Murdock

    You mean many millions of data points from many disparate fields, including physics, climatology, hydrology, geology, botany, and chemistry, all pointing to the same conclusion with a high degree of coherence, in support of a phenomenon that has been understood for well over 100 years? 

    Either that or you’re just making stuff up on a subject about which you know nothing, and that would be dishonest so I’m sure it’s not that. 

  • megginson

    No, SophiaMerry, this is not fun. This is one of the most serious challenges humankind has faced, and we’ve turned it into a political sideshow, haven’t we?
     
    I know that you wish that the science were wrong, just as much as I wish the science were wrong, and just as much as Al Gore wishes the science were wrong, but it just isn’t. The evidence is too overwhelming. All the arguments about the phrase “Hide the decline” in the East Anglia e-mails won’t make the Greenland ice sheet stop melting, now so quickly that some of the glaciers are moving at rates you can see just standing near them and looking. All the quotes about temperature data points extracted from those e-mails don’t make the planet’s temperature stop rising more sharply over the last half a lifetime than we can find anywhere else in the Holocene record after the Younger Dryas event. (And all the old arguments about heat islands don’t change the fact that the heat island theory has been discredited many different ways, and that satellite measurements have always shown that the Earth is warming, essentially in agreement with ground measurements, once you correct the error you will make if you forget to account for satellite and instrument drift.) All the arguments about the Sun being the “big dog” of the solar system and therefore the “obvious” cause of warming don’t change the fact that we just came off the hottest decade in recorded history during a period in which the Sun was also going through the longest and deepest minimum we have ever measured. (Furthermore, before we even had good records of stratospheric temperature change, we also had scientists telling us how we could tell whether the Sun would be the cause of planetary warming – If the Sun were, then the extra solar energy pouring in would warm the stratosphere, but if we were trapping heat down here with greenhouse gases, then some of that heat wouldn’t get reflected back up to the stratosphere, and it would cool. And we know now that the stratosphere is cooling.) All the Henry’s Law arguments about how the oceans will sop up all the carbon dioxide as fast as we can emit it (see, e.g., Steve Goreham’s “Climatism!”, pp. 40-43) can’t change the fact that it just plain isn’t happening, as one fast glance at the Keeling curve verifies. All the arguments by science fiction writer Michael Crichton that Antarctic cooling proves that global warming isn’t happening can’t make it any different that when you manage to knock a powerful greenhouse gas (ozone) out of the atmosphere in a climatologically isolated area (central Antarctica), climate science predicts that the area very well *could* cool down – for a while. And it doesn’t change the fact that once you get far enough away from the center of Antarctica, to the Antarctic Peninsula, ice shelf collapse due to warming is now happening frighteningly fast.
     
    Yeah, pieces of the science are not yet perfectly understood, and that allows some folks an entry point to do what University of Texas law professor Thomas McGarity calls “corpuscular analysis”, where you argue that small pieces of the picture may not be completely consistent with the overall portrait, and therefore one should distrust the science. (See, e.g., the argument by Singer and Avery in “Unstoppable Global Warming – Every 1500 Years”, p. 164, that we should doubt climate-change-induced species extinction because [1] a single glacier in Wyoming warmed up suddenly in the nineteenth century without apparently causing any local extinction [though it's tough to see how Singer and Avery came to that conclusion when the research cited consisted of sampling an ice core in a refrigerated room in Denver that was taken years before, and mentions species extinction nowhere since that is not what the researchers were researching], and [2] the Younger Dryas event early in the Holocene didn’t cause an extinction [which is an odd claim, given that the event is sometimes known as the Younger Dryas extinction]).
     
    The science is settled; it’s over. We can, and should, have vigorous arguments about what to do about the problem, but we can’t continue to hope that it’s not really happening. When not just the climate scientists are telling us this, but it is also the overwhelming consensus of geologists, biologists, oceanographers, chemists, atmospheric physicists, and just about everyone who works in any of the field sciences I didn’t just mention, then we had better start listening. And, no, there is no significant disagreement about the reality within the scientific community, no matter how many times the same five climate change deniers are called to testify before Congress.
     
    It certainly is true that alarmism isn’t helpful, particularly when there are still many things we can do about this problem without giving up our lifestyles. But one thing we cannot do is to continue to pull a bag over our head and say that we can’t see it happening. It’s getting too hot inside that bag.

  • rhancuff

    I can only imagine what people might find in a decade worth of my emails…particularly around NCAA tournament time.

  • billbraxton

    You are correct, the science is settled.  The world is flat; science settled there too, for a long time.  No question, all the evidence pointed to it, every data point. The point is, the science is not settled, lots of different information, and the real point is that all the backroom info should be put out in the open so the frauds can be called frauds and the real science can be studied.  Then we can come to an honest discussion about global warming, if it is real or not.

  • rhancuff

    “Science” did not settle on a flat earth. Mythology and pre-scientific cultural beliefs held that the Earth was flat. Once science came around, it didn’t take too long for the flat earth idea to leave scientific circles.

  • pflady

    Why did UVA cave?  Maybe because they are no longer afraid of losing faculty to the University of  Wisconsin or to the University of Texas. 

  • megginson

    I agree completely with billbraxton that we need an honest discussion about global warming, and we also need to start calling frauds frauds, though we may disagree about who we are tallking about when we say that. However, I would also point out that *science* knew, long before it was commonly accepted by the general populace, that the world is not flat; in fact, Eratosthenes conducted a brilliant experiment over two thousand years ago to measure its circumference (so some data points didn’t point in other directions). Lots of evidence pointed to the fact that the Earth is not flat, if one were not just to look around and say, “Looks flat to me!” The temptation is strong to make an analogy to the subject immediately at hand, but let’s let it go at that.

  • JohnMashey

    Some information may be useful.

    1) First, there was VA AG Ken Cuccinelli and his assistant Wesley Russell, both mid-1990s law grads from George Mason University, well-funded by the Koch brothers, home of the Mercatus Center and also home to Edward Wegman, see
    http://chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/journal-retracts-george-mason-u-scholars-critique-of-global-warming/33108
    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v473/n7348/full/473419b.html  Nature editorial -
    It has now taken GMU 14+ months and they are as yet unable to complete a simple inquiry, given a few pages of obvious near-verbatim plagiarism.

    Their first Cuccinelli  try bounced, the last CID I’ve seen relies heavily on the 2006 Wegman Report, and on p.18 is commentary on peer review, which is the same material as in the article to be retracted:
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/New%20Mann%20CID.PDF 
    2) ATI is another one of those couple-person Washington, DC-area thinktanks (i.e. non-profit PR & lobbying, but nice website):
    http://www.americantraditioninstitute.org/
    They are too new of have any funding records yet..  You can peruse your website and guess who might be funding them.

    In this case, one key person is Chris Horner, a lawyer with a long history of climate anti-science, generally associated with the Competitive Enterprise Institute, but these folks often manage to have multiple affiliations.

    http://www.desmogblog.com/crescendo-climategate-cacophony
    See p.12 (Horner entry) and the Horner line on pp.97-98 that shows activities and affiliations.  Most of his affiliated thinktanks or fronts included tobacco involvement, and some certainly included fossil fuel involvement (and others are pretty likely, just couldn’t find the funding trails.)  He isn’t associated with ALEC (whose ire was aroused by William Cronon at U WI), but ALEC is in the table, funded by the same groups, at least in part.

    ATI’s effort also relies on the Wegman Report.
    http://www.atinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/ATI_v_UVA_FOIA_First_Petition_final_5-15-11.pdf  p.14

  • adrianvance

    Drs. Mann, Jones and Hanson have committed great crimes against science.  They have lied about carbon dioxide and its’ role in the atmosphere.

    CO2 is a “trace gas” in air, insignificant by definition, 1/7th the absorber of IR, heat energy, from sunlight as water vapor which has 80 times as many molecules capturing 560 times as much heat or 99.8% of all “global warming.”  CO2 does only 0.2% of it.

    Carbon combustion generates 80% of our energy.  Control and taxing of carbon would give the elected ruling class more power and money than anything since the Magna Carta of 1215 AD. 

    The Two Minute Conservative at http://adrianvance.blogspot.com has political analysis, science and humor.  Daily on Kindle.

  • jimislew

    I look forward to a follow up in a year. Good luck!

  • joemontibello

    I like the stated goal: “to teach students “IT IQ”—the ability to understand when a piece of technology is useful and when it isn’t.” If they can apply that kind of intelligence in this program (not just “let’s use the iPad because it’s cool”), and teach it to students, the program will become a model that other institutions should consider. It’s a big if, but the potential benefit to students makes it well worth a try.

  • dmoser5

    “The overall goal of the high-tech dorm, Mr. Kornbluh says, is to teach students “IT IQ”—the ability to understand when a piece of technology is useful and when it isn’t. Faculty directors and social scientists will be watching to evaluate what’s effective, he says.”

    Here’s hoping that this aspect is successful — far too much  ”ooooh, pretty, shiny” in the name of enhancing learning.

  • http://www.facebook.com/LinHarper Lin Harper

    I love that people are dreaming up new ways to integrate the technology into the learning-teaching-learning interactions! Bravo for trying! Can’t wait to hear the results!

  • obrenya

    I am certainly glad to see all these initiatives in IT applications in learning environments. Do not be afraid to share the successes and disappointments that come out of this. Innovations and experimentations do stimulate the desire to learn and explore NEW FRONTIERS in why and how we LEARN.

    The age of BORING, “passive” learning through LARGE classroom face-to-face lectures (“classroom tranquilizers”) is slowly DYING! I could have become a FIRST CLASS astrophysicist who could have DISCOVERED “cures” for many incurable diseases that plague mankind today IF I had been MOTIVATED to take physics seriously in K-12 50 years ago! Keep on trying and DO NOT be discouraged by those who are always afraid to TRY innovations. Certainly, many may “fail” but there is always something new to learn from “failure!”