Senators Introduce Second Bill Aimed at For-Profit Colleges’ Military Revenue

February 16, 2012, 2:45 pm

U.S. senators have introduced a second bill designed to slow the flow of military money to for-profit colleges. The bill, sponsored by Sen. Tom Carper, a Democrat of Delaware, would count military and veterans’ benefits in the federal share of the 90/10 rule, which requires for-profit colleges to receive at least 10 percent of their revenue from nonfederal sources in order to be eligible to receive federal student aid. The bill would also make colleges that failed that test in two consecutive years ineligible for new money from the Defense and Veterans’ Affairs Departments.

The bill is similar to a measure, introduced last month by Sen. Richard Durbin, a Democrat of Illinois, that would lower the federal limit to 85 percent and would disqualify institutions from receiving Education Department money after a single year of noncompliance. Neither measure is expected to survive in the U.S. House of Representatives, where a majority of Republicans oppose tightening the 90/10 formula.

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bigjoe

The only problem that I see with this latest attempt is that these requirements should apply to all colleges. Many of the state universities are as guilty of these abuses as the for-profit. Here, the main state university has a higher tuition rate than many for-profit, yet they do not have to answer to as many layers of BS.
willynilly

Can you believe bigjoe’s reasoning (or lack thereof)? He states “state universities are as guilty of these abuses as the for-profit”. So we now actually have a statement of confirmation of abuse of the system AND an admission of guilt. But bigjoe wants the for-profits to get a pass because the “state universities” are also doing it. How many Americans would subscribe to that system of justice? Authorities discover and prove fraud and scam practices from a public service entity, but allow the frausters to go scott free because they point out others are doing it and have not been cited. In my world, the authorities crack down hard on the for-profits and then go after others who may also be scamming. However, information I have heard numerous times is that the reason the for-profits are first in line to be targeted is that their practices are so blatently egregious that they demand immediate action to preserve the integrity of post-secondary education.
Roskalnikov

@bigjoe I agree. All schools need to be held to the same standard. However, the for-profits have, and some continue to deliver, sub par education to unsuspecting students. Educators in all spheres need to focus on the measurement of learning outcomes so that students are coming away with real critical-thinking skills, not just an ability to put together a colorful Powerpoint presentation with BIG words in each frame.
bigjoe

Hey Willy, YOU ARE BLOWING SMOKE AGAIN! I NEVER said that I wanted ANY school to get any pass. I just want ALL school to be treated equally. I want ALL BAD schools (public and private) to be accountable and not just the for-profit. I want the bad schools to be “fixed” or closed, and the good schools to be left alone without government harrassment. I don’t care if they are public or private. Since you must work at a state school, you should look in your own back yard. I just get tired of private schools being required to have a 85% pass rate on state nursing/medical boards or face probation, yet a particular state school in KY had a pass rate of about 40%. YOU TELL ME, WHICH SCHOOL SHOULD BE ON PROBATION. Next time read what I actually write and not what you want me to write.
lizziec

Veterans with a degree from a legitimate university (read: non-profit, public that actually requires students to be able to read/write to enter a program, and from which countless American heroes, presidents, labor giants, innovators and regular folk have graduated) will have NO problems finding work.

Veterans who have been duped by the “quickie-online-degree-while-you-sleep” mills who end up with useless papers in frames on the wall will find out, often too late, that they have wasted their time.

I say bring on the scrutiny.

Signed,

a veteran with a REAL degree (or 2)