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Latino and White Freshmen Are Nearly Equal at U. of California

June 30, 2011, 2:31 pm

The number of Latino students who intend to enroll in the University of California system this fall nearly equals the number of white students, the university reported today. Just five years ago, white freshmen outnumbered Latino freshmen by roughly two to one. However, Latinos still represent a much lower proportion of the university’s incoming freshmen (26 percent) than of all 18- or 19-year-olds in California (47 percent). The system also reported a steady increase in out-of-state and international students, who pay much higher tuition, from 8 percent last year to 12.4 percent this year. Only two years ago, Berkeley enrolled 11 percent of its freshmen from outside California; this year, that number rose to 30 percent.

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  • landrumkelly

    Latino and white??  Haven’t really thought about these categories, now, have you?

  • old nassau’67

    Numerical questions:

    From 11 to 30 (%) out-of-state:
    Are Californian high-school grads suddenly dumber? Or outsiders
    suddenly much smarter? Does this increase mean that 19% of
    in-staters who would have been admitted two years ago were axed this
    year? Could the UC system’s desperate need for $$ underlie these
    numbers? Could financial considerations outweigh academic
    qualifications?

    Latinos: 26% admitted vs. 47% of
    18-19′ers in California. OK. How many of that 47% are high school
    grads? How many applied to UC system? What are the similar ratios
    for white, black, Asian, female, male (the last two groups most
    easily determined)?

    What are the ratios of the
    out-of-state groups as far as applicants, admits, and enrollees?

    Five years ago, what were the
    percentages? In 2011, what of the “53% not Latino” is White?

    Mark Twain popularized“ There
    are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.” To that
    trio he should have added a fourth: percentages.

  • alan_kors

    I guess not all whites speak Latin, though a very few speak Ladino.  Spaniards, note well, are not “Hispanic,” but their conquistador descendants, with or without exogenous marriage, are indeed “Hispanic.”  Portuguese from Portugal are not “Latino,” and Portuguese from Brazil are not Lusitanian, but “Hispanic.”  Gotta love American Nuremberg categories.

  • 11144703

    Asians are erased of course as usual:  the smallest group among students of color, yet the largest plurality exceeding even the number of white students in the CA system where affirmative action may not be practiced.  It’s sad the way these Asian Americans have bought into white ways of knowing, and it’s disturbing that so many win and place in Western classical music competitions (unless they feel they are subverting the music of the oppressor). I wonder if Asians have lost their authenticity.   

  • 22261984

    Well, so much for the fear that, without affirmative action, the UC system would be lily white (or, rather, lily white and Asian). 

  • mbelvadi

    Ahh, landrumkelly, I think there’s your answer: apparently the distinction between “Latino” and “white” is that “white” is short for “lily white” which presumably excludes Latinos.

  • pmckechn

    11144703, Asian Americans are winning classical music competitions when they are the best.  It’s pitiable if you think that makes them unauthentic.

  • burger1376

    Again, focusing on race when we should be focusing on people.  Why are humans this simplistic in our thinking? 

  • 11144703

    pmckechn, I was being ironic.  Of course they win because they’re the best.  It gives the lie to Vladimir Horowitz’s incredibly stupid racist and homocentric comment (if indeed he said it): “There are three kinds of pianists: Jewish pianists, homosexual pianists, and bad pianists.”  And don’t get me started about Asians playing in a technically perfect but “robotic” way.  So many Asians blow away the competition with their soulful interpretations. 

    Oh, wait–don’t only all blacks and a handful of whites have soul?  (pmckechn:  that’s irony in case you didn’t get it.) 

  • 11144703

    “Asian Americans are winning classical music competitions when they are the best. It’s pitiable if you think that makes them unauthentic.”     

    pmckechn, I was being ironic. Of course they win because they’re the best. It gives the lie to Vladimir Horowitz’s incredibly stupid racist and homocentric comment (if indeed he said it): “There are three kinds of pianists: Jewish pianists, homosexual pianists, and bad pianists.” And don’t get me started about Asians playing in a technically perfect but “robotic” way. So many Asians blow away the competition with their soulful interpretations.

    Oh, wait–don’t only all blacks and a handful of whites have soul? (pmckechn: that’s irony in case you didn’t get it.)

  • pmckechn

    OK, my bad, I guess.  Irony detector faulty.

  • juris_prudence

    The comments by Steven McDonald and Jochen Rick miss a key point. If students are REQUIRED by their instructor to post the material in a Wiki, then FERPA would apply. Conversely, if the students posted the material on their own, without being required to do so, then McDonald and Rick are right.

  • cpri2405

    Couldn’t students post to a public site using pseudonyms only known to the instructor (for grading purposes)? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/jochen.rick Jeff Rick

    There’s no question that FERPA only applies to required activities; however, Georgia Tech cannot easily assess whether participation in a course wiki was required or voluntary. Hence, all content was removed. As an educator, a resource that can only be used for voluntary (i.e., secondary) activities is not nearly as useful as one that can be used for required activities. If the result of FERPA is that use of wikis is so crippled that it only allows for non-essential uses, then it is still a major blow to this technology. 

  • jandersen

    OK.  What about all the other social media’s in use with online classes.  Twitter? FB? Blogs? If it is outside of the LMS  and a required activity of the course, then are we in FERPA trouble?  Any source for more direction?  Thanks.

  • bleckb

    In the recent court arguments about the placing of gps units on cars to follow people, it was pretty clear that what someone does in public is not protected by privacy concerns. (How this applies to using the gps units to track people has yet to be decided.) That someone is a student is a public act. They somehow get to campus, they walk across campus in full view of anyone and everyone who is there, they were their school logo and so on. Mere attendance can hardly be construed as something one has a privacy right to protect. It’s absurd CYA thinking by spineless lawyers and university admins.

  • sciencelibrarian

    “It would be as if a student were to post something from class to YouTube, [Steven J. McDonald] said.” I’d like to note that there are countless, egregious privacy violations on YouTube. Violations that are especially “juicy” get copied and re-posted over and over, thereby becoming virtually impossible to eradicate. Why this is not more of an issue in the public mind is a mystery to me.

  • jmwh7018

    Absolutely.