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Biddy Martin to Leave Wisconsin Flagship for Amherst College

June 14, 2011, 2:35 pm

Carolyn A. (Biddy) Martin, chancellor of the University of Wisconsin at Madison, is leaving the public flagship campus to become president of Amherst College, where she will begin her tenure at the end of August, the two institutions announced today. Ms. Martin, who has led Madison since 2008, is leaving after a particularly contentious year for her campus and for higher education in the Wisconsin state capital, where thousands of protesters gathered this winter to fight Gov. Scott Walker’s plan to strip the collective-bargaining rights of University of Wisconsin faculty and staff members, among other public employees. At the same time, Ms. Martin, with the support of the governor, a Republican, aggressively sought to break the Madison campus away from the rest of the University of Wisconsin system, a plan that was met with great resistance from system leaders and that ultimately failed in the Legislature.

(Update: See a later report with more information on Chancellor Martin’s decision.)

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  • utelthideedenoi

    It seems to me that the only reason you are complaining about this is because you recognize that higher education poses a threat to the interests of the private sector. That said interests determine the constitutive goods of public life is a questionable and unprecedented phenomenon, and it arguably deserves to be challenged by the professoriate.

  • trendisnotdestiny

    “A significant portion of the professoriate sees engagement in politics as part of the job description. And, unfortunately, they are right. It is becoming harder and harder to find professors devoted to teaching traditional academic subjects for their own sake, to undergraduates who lack the basics in the humanities and the social and natural sciences.”

    First, everyone comes from a political place. The issue is whether or not that these politics are transparent and made known. It is very easy to teach traditional subjects from a status quo position and not claim to be political. The issue to make sure that students fully understand what product they are buying, politics or not….

    Also, I disagree with your analysis that the professoriate is overly involved in politics. If this was the case, there would be a bigger uproar on many issues facing middle class families. It may even be department specific (you do not really see business school profs) selling against their interests in the system. Theses educators have been institutionalized. They ignore the political sentiment and hide in creases of their personal benefits in a system that is more about job training and credential accumulation….

    In terms of: “for undergraduates who lack the basics” in these areas, one of the last places you will see groups of de-skilled 18-22 year old students get a foundational education is in an American university. It is not designed to work that way. What should be at the bottom of university priorities should be the political make up of the professoriate.

  • wbgleason

    “A significant portion of the professoriate sees engagement in politics as part of the job description. And, unfortunately, they are right. ”

    Or, I might change unfortunately to fortunately. Which is why we have universities, I thought.

    Some places, e.g. the University of Minnesota, are even explicit about it:

    “Academic freedom is the freedom to discuss all relevant matters in the classroom, to explore all avenues of scholarship, research, and creative expression, and to speak or write without institutional discipline or restraint on matters of public concern as well as on matters related to professional duties and the functioning of the University.” (Board of Regents Policy.)

    “matters of public concern” “the functioning of the University”

    That would seem to cover just about anything a lefty librul or a righty wingnut might care to agitate about.

  • pocvecem

    TIND wrote:

    “First, everyone comes from a political place. The issue is whether or not that these politics are transparent and made known. ”

    No. The issue is whether researchers and their peer reviewers attempt to distance themselves from that political place and produce material that is as unbiased as possible.

    But I have to agree with Bill that having the professoriate disengaged from politics is not necessarily positive. In instances where we have professors striving for objectivity, their research results will occasionally point to political action. For instance, the professor who wants to know whether there is wage discrimination in the federal sector will reach conclusions, whether they point to discrimination or not, that will be socially significant. I, personally, would want someone knowledgeable like that in the public debate. Professors who engage themselves (especially in the classroom) on political matters that are outside their expertise (or on matters on which they are informed only by theory that was written with predetermined political conclusions) fall outside of this desired group.

    And really, the political makeup of the professoriate would not matter if we were dealing with professors who strove for objectivity (even if imperfectly) instead of ones who declare that all knowledge is inherently political, thereby giving themselves carte blanche opportunities for political propagandizing.

    And NSR wrote:

    “Rather, entire departments and university administrations see the goal of higher education as political.”

    Been there, seen that, and I think this is really the problem. It’s a question of priorities. Look at your MLA discipline profs and find the enthusiasm they show for improving their students’ writing (for instance) compared to the enthusiasm they show for their pet political issues. Aside from a certain Brainstorm blogger named Bauerlein (and probably many others, though a definite minority), you see a much lesser personal engagement with the skill building than with the politics. And I know that college is about much more than skill building, but if the skills aren’t developed, students can’t express (or perhaps even comprehend) the deeper thoughts they might develop or be exposed to.

    And that brings me back to the Michigan case where the email fishing expedition seems outright dopey to me. In Michigan, they’re targeting the Labor Studies folks. If I’m not mistaken, Labor Studies starts from politically programmatic premises. It might just be easier to tell the public “Hey! Look at the Labor Studies website. The entire subject is about political goals and they say so themselves.” No dubious investigations necessary…

    Okay, I’m done now.

  • ssaulvolk

    I could comment that the goal of providing remedial education is itself a “political” goal insofar as it recognizes that college education should be open for everyone, a social determination that wasn’t the case 100 years ago. Our job is to educate students to understand the world, which (to follow Paolo Freire) is highly political. But on “L’Affaire Cronon,” one doesn’t really have to search too far to understand what the Republicans and the Mackinacs are up to: does the word “Climategate” ring a bell. Global warming deniers have been flashing around literally 1-2 emails from the huge cache they got there as the basis of their arguments. Just look at the “climate” hearings recently held in the House. All they need is one email that they can use as a trophy – doesn’t matter what the other 10,000 say.

  • kascott

    Yes, ssaulvolk, exactly. “At a time when the percentage of students needing remedial education is at an all-time high, when the need for job training beyond high school is pressing, and when we worry about how even our top students will compete with their peers around the world, political activism should be at the bottom of any university’s list of priorities.”

    All of these issues are direct results of, you guessed it, “politics.”

  • quidditas

    “The professor is also on the board of the Wilderness Society, currently working to stop mining in the New Mexico desert. The society’s Web site instructs readers: “Ask Interior Secretary Ken Salazar to close Otero Mesa to mining immediately!””

    Cronon didn’t sign away his rights to exercise his civic freedoms when he had the audacity to take a university position.

    Call back when he busses his students out to the mines to form human barricades against the capitalist bulldozers. If his students get investigated by Homeland Security for being “environmental terrorists,” I’ll want to know about it.

    Until then, spare me the totalitarian rationales. Next, you’ll be kicking the Young Republicans off campus.

  • trendisnotdestiny

    “Hy Poc”

    * “No. The issue is whether researchers and their peer reviewers attempt to distance themselves from that political place and produce material that is as unbiased as possible.”

    Actually, No. We all come from a place of bias. Attempting to distance does little to alleviate the issue except to make for a cloak or mask of neutrality. Also, your standard is “unbiased as possible”? C’mon, this is whitewash and revisionism…

    It appears you are blind to the construct of power (studying indigenous third world cultures en masse but rarely do you see a study of CEO’s in their natural habitat). Can you be honest here Poc? There are good ole boy clubs that sell themselves on their objectivity all the time. This isn’t to mean that individuals cannot be objective, but groups largely have some ingrained institutional bias to protect the system….

    Establishing greater distance means that you believe you are removed from the system (above it), but we know in human ecology and system theory that all that does is make your view less valid to the real lived experiences of participants that you are supposedly trying to study (unless you are there to get in and out so you can make your publishing deadline)….

    No, addressing your biases up front (assuming that people are capable of this) provides the opportunity for all readers of the research to ethically understand applied research and why it was undertaken.

  • triplebogey

    True enough, NSR wrote of Cronon’s involvement in mining issues, but I think it may be a bit of a stretch to say this Brainstorm post is motivated entirely by NSR’s feelings on the private sector and its relationship to higher ed.

  • mavprof

    Sensible remarks by Ms Riley and pocvecem suggesting the pedagogical futility of partisan politicking by faculty as a classroom substitute for disinterested scholarship and teaching. Of course some departments at colleges and universities quite easily encourage social and political advocacy cum activism and even owe their creation to it, e.g., women’s and ethnic studies, social work, “peace studies,” “labor studies,” and the like.

    Sure, I’ve read Friere’s “Pedagogy of the Oppressed,” but, apparently unlike ssaulvolk, found it pretty oppressive Marxist stuff. And ssaulvolk’s caricature of the views of scientific and other skeptics about global warming alarmism being based “literally [on] 1-2 emails” ignores the contributions of skeptics (they’re not “deniers”) like Lindzen and Michaels and cautious warmists like Curry to the House hearings. “Literally” here, often like “virtually” elsewhere, means “not really.”

  • sand6432

    This argument assumes that providing “job training” is not itself a political act. Just seeing higher education primarily as a vehicle for supporting the capitalist economy is itself a political statement. It is no less so than seeing higher education’s mission as producing citizens capable of critical thinking. To suppose that there is some “neutral” way of providing education is to bury one’s head in the sand.—Sandy Thatcher

  • trendisnotdestiny

    * “Sure, I’ve read Friere’s “Pedagogy of the Oppressed,” but, apparently unlike ssaulvolk, found it pretty oppressive Marxist stuff.”

    Sounds like someone needs to refresher course or an ability to read for comprehension.

    Friere helped the impoverished to read and write (basic literacy) in Brazil. Also, literacy in Brazil was a requirement for a citizen to vote. He has been imprisoned, in positions of authority within the education system and a global scholar for decades. When we deal with large disparities between the haves and have nots, Freire reminds us that we all have a role to play:

    *** “There is no such thing as a neutral education process. Education either functions as an instrument which is used to facilitate the integration of generations into the logic of the present system and bring about conformity to it, or it becomes the ‘practice of freedom’, the means by which men and women deal critically with reality and discover how to participate in the transformation of their world.”
    —Richard Shaull, on Paulo Freire

    Freire advocates that education allows the oppressed to regain their humanity and overcome their condition; however, he acknowledges that in order for this to take effect, the oppressed have to play a role in their own liberation (something that also touches on our current discussions with apathetic and “over-privileged or pampered students” — see NSG) This is not some “American Dream corporatized bullshit, but real lived experiences of people who came from nothing who learned to how to be dialectical thinkers through action…..

    Other attaining the maxist tag, mavprof, is there anything related to Freire’s life work that makes him less worthy than yourself?

  • missoularedhead

    I am a political animal. I tweet political stories, blog on politics occasionally, and have passionate conversations re politics often. But when I step into my classroom, and when I’m reading student papers, or meeting with them during office hours, my politics are firmly in my back pocket. Even in classes where politics enters the conversation (modern world history, healthcare ethics), mine stay out of the conversation. If asked, I will express my views as minimally as possible, but remind students that they are there to form their OWN opinions.
    Why do I do all of this? Because of statements like the above. I may be X, Y, or Z, but students have the right to be free of my political leanings. Now, when it comes to education funding, that’s another story…

  • mavprof

    tind’s touts for Friere’s mixing of pedagogy with Marxist politics notwithstanding, I can read well as he; I simply disagree with some of Friere’s views, e.g., his “banking concept of education,” which seems to me a simplistic model used to indict the traditional curriculum as unwarrantedly “oppressive.” A critique of the influence of Friereian “critical pedagogy” and pedagogical “social justice” orientation on K-12 education by an academic educator, Sandra Stotsky, may be found here:

    http://www.nas.org/polArticles.cfm?doc_id=229

  • utelthideedenoi

    You’re probably right. I like the hyperbole anyways.

  • trendisnotdestiny

    Mav, you might be better served to pick someone who hasn’t built their career on reforming the system through changing pedagogy… I read the article you list as well as a few others. While Stotsky is impressively credentialed (Michigan & Harvard), she is far from persuasive and one wonders what her impact on the children of Arkansas has been during her tenure…

    As we know with Freire, he would have gotten people to read and write where ever he lived… At some point, yelling reform and selling teaching assessment is a cover for those who rely upon the certainty of a permanent working class in a corporately owned for-profit industry….

    I think if you contemplate long enough that you will find the cookie cutter simplistic solutions to reform resemble more of Stotsky than of Freire’s Banking Concept of Education, but since he is marxist (you already know the answers of where he is going). Peter McLaren does an excellent job of talking about the Freirian influences in his book Life in Schools for those who would like a little more marxist critique of the commodification of the western education. Something you will definitely not get from Stotsky….

  • marktropolis

    So, how political are these Business Schools that work to implement a pro-capitalist, pro-free market economy? Isn’t that political? Isn’t giving someone a Milton Friedman book in fact a political act? Is a religious studies department in fact a political act, as it works to undermine our Christian nation?

    The conservative/right political infrastructure is a direct beneficiary of political work through universities. How many John M. Olin chairs are there in academe? How many Bradley chairs?

    I’m always struck by the double standard applied here: when someone is working in “left” causes, he/she is a political actor. When someone is working in “right” causes, he/she is exercising their academic freedom.

    Come on, at this point because of climategate, intelligent design, etc., a biology professor is now a political actor.

  • pocvecem

    Markt, there is a difference between political work (not okay) and work with political implications (to be expected sometimes).

    To use one of your examples, the biology professor who works on evolution is doing biology. The existence of an political group that promotes intelligent design does not make that biologist’s work inherently political, although it does add a few political implications to the biologist’s conclusions. By the same token, business schools provide career training. The existence of an outside group that promotes Marxism does not make the business school’s work inherently political, although some might argue that political implications are added.

    So to answer your question, no the religious studies department is not a political act. I’m also quite surprised to see you state that it “works to undermine our Christian nation.” Learning about other cultures’ religious practices would help our country understand the rest of the world, but the results you identify just aren’t there. (One can also learn about world religions to find ways to develop more effective evangelism among selected populations, for example.) I’m pretty sure that no one accuses the Pope of being less Christian just because he studied up on Islam. I think most of us can recognize the difference between a religion course that seeks to impartially introduce a set of unfamiliar ideas and one that seeks to proselytize. To offer a parallel: most of us can recognize the difference between a Marxism course that asks students to understand a philosophy that helped shape history and cultures and a Marxism course that teaches students to use that philosophy as a lens to understand the world around them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7MHPIFOJRACNS3RBRTZOKTBUMU DavidT

    I appreciate Poc’s distinction, but I’m with Marktropolis on this issue. The implicit, subtle, often hegemonic politics are arguably more of a threat than the explicit, in-your-face politics that are easier to recognize and abjure. Students seem pretty resistant to the explicit efforts to indoctrinate them with overt political views, as recent research suggests. The implicit stuff works its way into their view of the world without their knowing it.

    MarkT mentions several kinds of cases, which may be a little different in their significance. The business school example is good because it reminds us that the easy, mindless reproduction of the taken-for-granted often slides effortlessly into the morally superior. We’re at a point at which a substantial percentage of Americans seems to believe that the U.S. is a capitalist country by constitutional intent, and that virtually any action by any government is “socialism”. A college education is intended to be more than job training, and is intended to challenge students to reflect on their taken-for-granted assumptions about the world. Business schools seem to do well with the job-training (though see the expose of Stanford’s MBA program), but there doesn’t seem to be much critical reflection (I’m guessing, and will be happy to be wrong).

    Simply reproducing those assumptions is a political act with profound consequences. The budgetary proposal recommended today by Rep. Ryan, to cite one recent example, includes the elimination of Medicare, substituting a system of subsidies for seniors to buy private health insurance. Ryan argued that the “market” is the best means for controlling the costs of health care, apparently unaware that the “market” hasn’t done much for controlling health care costs so far – but this rather unreflective assumption that free-market, capitalist solutions to all problems is the American Way is what many take for granted, teach students in business schools, and uncritically propose as if it were obviously true.

    Teaching evolutionary theory is a slightly different kind of case, but illustrates another dimension of the same issue. U.S. business schools probably don’t get too many students challenging their Western market-capitalist orientation, but biology is another matter: if you think that teaching evolutionary theory is simply business-as-usual, you haven’t taught an intro biology course in a while. Students openly challenge biological science, frequently write exam answers loaded with ID or Creationist positions, and sometimes threaten us with legal action if we do not give them full credit for respecting their right to practice their religion, including the claim that “cave men” lived among dinosaurs. And that’s at a research 1 university. I’ve warned my physics colleagues that they need to be careful: modern physics and cosmology are incompatible with Intelligent Design and Creationism in several key ways, and the only reason that the religious right doesn’t seem to have gone after physics is that they are more concerned with the place of humans in the natural order, and don’t worry much about red shifts.

  • http://twitter.com/marilocosta Marilo Costa

    In Academically Adrift it is noted that the most learning on college campuses goes on in humanities courses and majors – i.e., those courses taught by the “overly politicized” faculty. The fact of the matter is that human knowledge does not fit into neat little silos, nor is it mutually exclusive. Yes, you can simultaneously teach students to read and write even as you expose them to the political realities that surround them.

  • mavprof

    David T makes an initially plausible general point about students’ resistance to overt indoctrination by partisan professors, though without distinguishing well how such opportunities for partisan indoctrination might or might not relate to essential course content.

    I doubt whether most academic business schools are promoters of a “mindless reproduction” of some caricatured view that “virtually any action by any government is ‘socialism.’” Nor may they be so immune to “social justice” agendas promoted through “sensitivity training,” as one former graduate business student (later representing the Competitive Enterprise Institute) testifies here: (“Anticapitalism at Business School”): http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=314

    David T cites as an example of an “unreflective assumption” in Rep. Ryan’s budget proposal on the future of Medicare that free market capitalism is the solution to all problems and that Ryan is “unaware” of its failure to control costs so far. But supporters of Medicare reform often point out that from its inception the government program itself has contributed greatly to the rise in costs, as a libertarian Cato Institute paper argues here: http://www.downsizinggovernment.org/hhs/medicare-reforms Rep. Ryan’s proposals may or may not be a better solution to future health care provisions for the elderly, but I’d hardly call them “unreflective.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7MHPIFOJRACNS3RBRTZOKTBUMU DavidT

    I’m glad to hear that some business schools examine the fundamental assumptions of the economic systems with which we live.

    Mavprof writes “I doubt whether most academic business schools are promoters of a “mindless reproduction” of some caricatured view that “virtually any action by any government is ‘socialism.’” I am sure that most readers of this column know that I did not make that claim. I pointed out that “a substantial percentage of Americans” seems to hold this belief. It’s not exactly a caricature. Read online sources such as Big Journalism, where you will see very aggressive examples of just this kind of thinking.

    As for Medicare, we each have our own statistics and data, I guess. Critics of Medicare argue that it contributes to rising health care costs; supporters of Medicare point out that there are no data to demonstrate that, and that, on the contrary, because Medicare recipients have the option of using their Medicare benefits to enroll in private health insurance plans, it is more likely the increases in prices of those private, for-profit plans that drive up overall costs. See, for example, Oberlander’s book The Political Life of Medicare. Where did I just read Clarke’s Second Law of Egodynamics?: For every expert there is an equal and opposite expert.

    I consider Paul Ryan’s proposal unreflective for the simple reason that his proposal digs the cost hole deeper, and does precisely the opposite of what many health care economists such as Oberlander and Reinhardt argue is needed to bring costs down: in essence, it strips the specifically Medicare option from Medicare, and leaves only the for-profit private sector insurance options; he has announced that this is to allow the power of the marketplace to drive down the price that Medicare recipients will have to pay. But that hasn’t worked for private sector health insurance clients in the past, and Ryan offers no reason to believe that it will work in the future, apart from his vigorously expressed belief in the power of the marketplace.

    It may also be worth pointing out that the debate over Medicare Part D made it perfectly clear that proposals to use the collective power of millions of Medicare recipients to negotiate lower drug prices were simply not going to be allowed by Republicans in congress, and so was dropped as a tool to control costs. Even when a free market strategy was considered, business-friendly politicians killed it as a form of “socialism” akin to letting those pesky collective bargainers get their hands on costs.

  • mavprof

    David T is correct to say that there are competing views on Medicare and how to contain costs while providing adequate coverage for recipients. I’ve not read the Oberlander-Reinhardt study, only about it. The Ryan “premium support” proposal resembles the plan in place now for federal employees and allows those covered more plan options, while Oberlander seems to think Medicare recipients incapable of making rational choices in a medical marketplace. As with economists, cost/value assessments by various experts depend on analysis of past trends and projections in future. There is some bipartisan support for Ryan’s plan, e.g., from former President Clinton’s budget director Alice Rivlin, who co-authored a Medicare reform plan with Ryan.

    If David T’s initial remark that, after all, “some business schools [do] examine the fundamental assumptions of the economic systems with which we live” was a reference to the “sensitivity training” auto-da-fe described in the article (“Anticapitalism at Business School”) I linked, then perhaps David T didn’t read more than the title. The article had little to do with analysis of different economic systems but rather with promoting political indoctrination on racial and environmental issues.

    Using “the business school” as an “example . . . of the mindless reproduction of the taken-for-granted,” David T also asserts (though provisionally) that business schools engage in job training and don’t promote “critical reflection.” It’s true that he broadens his claim to include “a substantial percentage of Americans” in the second sentence about many Americans’ aversion to what they perceive as socialism (that much I’ll concede), though his comments in the second and third paragraphs clearly show the focus is on business schools and their supposed “mindless reproduction of the taken-for-granted.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7MHPIFOJRACNS3RBRTZOKTBUMU DavidT

    Mavprof raises a key point about rational choice, but I am not sure that that the historical evidence supports any clear conclusions about the rationality of the market, especially the rationality of the health care market. Here again economists differ over what is rational and how much choice is involved.

    As we know, Rep. Ryan’s plans for Medicare are projected to cover only a portion of the cost of health insurance premiums, and estimates suggest that the percentage covered by Medicare could drop to 33% within a decade. Paul Krugman’s column yesterday suggested that the most likely rational response of seniors will be to demand legislative relief, through a return to higher levels of subsidy, wiping out any cost savings to the government. Whether or not Krugman is himself reliable, I assume that this legislative strategy is a rational one in terms of self-interest, if not national interest. I’m just glad I’m over 55…

    I am generally in favor of rational choice in the market, and Mavprof and I are, I think, in agreement on that. But I took an online survey a couple of months ago about what kind of health insurance I’d prefer, and even though my level of reading and comprehension is at least at the 8th grade level, I found the complicated mosaic of options bewildering. Would I prefer a plan with $1000 annual deductible and coverage for X, Y, and Z, or a plan with a $500 deductible and partial coverage for X and Y, and full coverage for Z, or a plan with no deductible and 25% higher premiums and full coverage for X, Y, and Z, or… I think there were 10 options per page, with about 6 pages of choices. It’s impossible for most consumers to gauge with any accuracy what their health care needs will be in 5 or 10 years, especially as seniors, and making decisions on the basis of how I feel today is not a good idea. Will I have a heart attack in 6 months? Will my insurance cover this or that range of organ transplants? Should I care? What’s the risk of cancer in my family history? I can easily decide which can of corn is the better choice, and the consequences of the wrong decision are minimal. No one wants to be bankrupted because they chose affordable medical insurance and later needed a complicated procedure their insurance doesn’t cover.

    I’ve wandered far from the issue of whether Rep Ryan’s Medicare proposal is unreflective (let alone Cronon!), and while you might persuade me that it is or is not – I’m open to persuasion on these complex matters – I am concerned that relying on the market to be rational where, as in health care, it has not been rational in the past, is probably a bad idea.

  • badger74

    A real loss for UW Madison.  At the worst possible time. While the UW System and Board of Regents are great at resisting change they actually do virtually nothing without Madison taking the lead and the lumps. Who would want this job?? Only a yes man. Wisconsin is a moribund little state on an increasingly downward trajectory. 

  • 11209892

    I am not surprised.  Once she sided with Walker, her time was up and she knew it. Actually, I think we should pay Donna whatever she want’s and get her back on our campus.

  • copywritergirl

    I’m glad she’s gone. As someone who teaches at one of the OTHER system schools, (why yes, Madison is NOT the only one), I can tell you that Madison takes up way more oxygen than it deserves. The last straw was when Biddy went behind her boss’ backs to dance with Walker. I’m glad they didn’t get to spin off and that Biddy is gone.

  • blesstayo

    Smart move Chancellor Martin! Who wants to die of heart attack at a flagship campus when you can enjoy longenvity at an endowed college? I hope all smart administrators know when it is time to move on to more peaceful jobs. Did you see Senator B. and Former Governor P from MINNESOTA trying to become the US President after messing up MN just like WI? Our politicians need professional development and continued education. 

  • 11236504

    Having recently left the UW System, and not at Madison, my experiences with Dr. Martin were nothing but remarkable.  She is an extremely intelligent, articulate person, and without a doubt, believed in ‘taking care of business’ to the best of her ability AND for her institution knowing the possible costs.  Too many leaders doing otherwise currently, and her departure is a telling sign.  Yes, who would want this job now other than those who will take the path of least resistance no matter what damage it may bring…   

  • 12009444

    UW MSN is so big that its needs are substantially different from the rest of the system. Separating it would have helped UW Madison and probably would have made operations more expensive for the rest of the schools but would have also allowed them greater flexibility. She deserves a lot of credit for trying.

  • collegeeducator

    How do you really feel?

  • 11286747

    Having worked with Dr. Martin at Cornell, I found her to be very bright, articulate, and passionate about higher education.  She listens, but also stands up for what she believes is in her institution’s best interests.  It is not surprising that she would become a strong advocate for the Madison campus; that’s her job. Given the state of politics in Wisconsin today, I’m also not surprised that she tried to spin off UW-Madison.  As a graduate, I was glad that she tried to protect the university’s position as a premier research institution. It’s clear that the governor doesn’t understand what a treasure the people of Wisconsin have in UW-Madison.

    Agree or disagree with her strategy, at least Dr. Martin was willing to fight for what she believed was in her institution’s best interests.  Given what the legislature and governor are saying and doing, I don’t have any other better ideas. Her departure is a real loss for the university and the state. 

  • coco_rico

    My spouse works at one of the non-Madison campuses in Wisc. I think your farewell to her was rather unfair but one point you make is true. Madison takes itself way too seriously and the notion of breaking it away was arrogantly miscalculated. Other than that, however, Ms. Martin seems like a competent person.

  • lewandowski

    Who else is going to have the gusto and courage to envision such steps without saying how it will effect their golden handshake.  Much of corporate leadership is there less than 5 years.  How many chairs jst at HP in the last five years alone. -

  • kosboot

    I can’t understand the outpouring for Steve Jobs.  As bits and pieces of Walter Isaacson’s biography appear in the press, to me it appears that Jobs was like every other company, wanting to monopolize their sphere of influence and wanting to destroy competitors.  Maybe Jobs didn’t talk about money, but Apple’s strategies (closed architecture, proprietary in so many ways) clearly was aimed at maximizing profits, even to the point of building in planned obsolesence (I went to several authorized Apple repair places in the 1980s and 1990s, and they all said that the machines are not intended to last).

    Pertinent for readers of The Chronicle: To hear his angry tirade that teachers’ unions should be eliminated so that teachers can be hired year to year based on student performances – clearly one is dealing with someone whose savvy technical/design ideas too many people mistook for overall intelligence.

  • freedom33

    Steve Jobs was under obligation to support his shareholders like any other CEO. And the textbook industry is ridiculous, and we know it! The fact that new textbooks come out with few modifications prove it, and forces the students to buy them. Each professor however, should make sure the newest ones (two or three copies) are in the library available to the students to read on site. This is one way to circumvent having to buy the ipad and the textbook! It is remarkably a common sense idea, dirt cheap, and an often overlooked form of goodwill from the professor to the student. Students don’t care how much you know, until they know how much you care. Occupy the Library! 

  • http://twitter.com/GerardHarbison Gerard Harbison

    This is actually an inversion of the truth. I still have a working Mac II fx from circa 1990. In my experience, Macs greatly outlive their usefulness. I always feel a tinge of guilt in retiring a computer that runs fine, but is simply ten times slower that what’s currently on the market.

  • wittseek7

    The title of this article should be “Steve Jobs Had Hopes of Disrupting State Certification of Textbooks.” 

  • wittseek7

    I have enjoyed the same experience as Gerard Harbison. I have had at least five Macs over the years, and, when I have periodically upgraded to a newer model with innovative features, the old one was always still operating perfectly. High-quality machines.

  • raza_khan

    The point here really is not whether we agree or disagree what Steve Jobs had envisioned.  The point is a fact where the funding for education has become the last priority on the list at all local, state, regional and federal levels – not just K-12 but even at higher levels. 

    Raza
    ________________________Raza Khan, Ph.D.Chemistry facultyDr.Raza.Khan@gmail.com

  • navydad

    I don’t know about the free part or the politics, but tablets and digital textbooks should replace most paper textbooks as soon as possible. Updates and revisions would require nothing more than a download, rather than entire new editions. All sorts of links can be embedded, texts can be searchable, graphics can be far superior to 2-d printed pages (how about a short video rotating a complex molecule), costs would be much reduced, lots of trees and ink would be saved, and students wouldn’t have to lug around 30 pound backpacks.

  • ychumanities

    Our library does not have the resources to stock two or three of every textbook used on our campus.  I wish it did.  

  • abritton22

    I see your point about digital textbooks being a buyer for a school district.  However, there have been studies shown that the brain will atler the way it processes information ( in other words we will not be able to read printed text without strain). While I support going digital for textbooks, I still believe the our students need to possess ”old” research skills.  Too many times I have found papers where students clicked on links that gave them false information.  What do we do about this, and can technology and print coexist?

  • abritton22

    Being a buyer for a K-12 district, I can see the positives and the negatives of this implimentation.  While free texts sound like a great idea, we have to stop and consider the children who come from homes that do not have the technology needed to load the texts.  I am currently involved in a mesh of technology integration versus paper form, and what I have found is that some schools do not have the funding to support the technology needed for this move.  While I am well versed in techology, there are others that I work with who have trouble opening and utilizing microsoft programs, what do we do then if these are the people educating our children? 

    There is much more that goes into this transistion process than meets the eye. Until funding (at school and at home) is increased and training is provided, I fear that when we progress we will leave some students behind.

  • klassyk

    I totally agree with the point abritton22 makes regarding some students being left behind. While in undergrad I remember giving a presentation on the digital divide. The “haves” vs the “have nots” differ regarding access to technology. In a society where some students still lack computer access in the home, is it wise to have an iPad as a textbook source?  I have concerns that this idea of an iPad tablet computer alleviating one problem, may actually contribute to another strain of digital divide.

  • http://twitter.com/emosterd Eric Mosterd

    Far be it for me to defend Apple, as I find their litigious nature damaging to the ecosystem of innovation, but even with that, I am reminded by the saying “Don’t hate the player, hate the game.”  The game (patent system) is flawed, but that is a whole different conversation.

    Anyway, on to your arguments.  First, I hear many people complain about how closed and proprietary Apple is, yet I don’t see this bearing itself out.  For sure, they are far better than Microsoft (ahem, PlaysForSure), Adobe, etc.:

    - Their audio codec (AAC) is standard and they just opened their lossless format (ALAC).  They use MP4 for video–proprietary, but basically an industry standard.  And before you say anything, yes they used to wrap their music in DRM and still do so for movies, but only at the behest of the media industry (http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/a-letter-from-steve-jobs-on-drm-lets-get-rid-of-it/). 
    - They push HTML5 (open) over proprietary things like Silverlight and Flash. 
    - They are a major contributor back to open source:  http://www.apple.com/opensource/

    With respect to planned obsolescence, while that may have been the case in the 1980s for the computer industry writ large–and something that flies in the face of the still functional Mac SE and LC I have–certainly Apple is less guilty of that than others.  They have a standard product release cycle, so in general, you always know when the next update is coming.  Also, Apple products have a higher resale value (http://www.salon.com/2007/11/07/mac_price/) than their competitors, and the best warranty and support service (http://www.macworld.com/article/160089/2011/05/apple_laptops_dominate_consumer_reports_rankings.html).

    But, you know, don’t let the facts stand in the way of good hyperbole.

  • thunfoo

    I am a dreamer and a teacher and a geek. One
    of the issues is improving teaching and creating superior teachers/learners. How
    does one give them the proper tools? And what are the best teaching/learning
    tools? Maybe as always we keep being distracted by all the gadgets..We forget the beauty of simplicity, the sobriety of a job well-done.

     

     I
    will not list all the existing tools and even the cooler ones because we desperately do need new ideas and solutions. I teach languages in upstate NY. It is
    obvious that knowing languages can help attain cultural awareness and
    disseminate understanding in the search of “global education”, hence
    please encourage study abroad and exchange programs. Textbooks have
    not been following the technological “revolutions” for a long time, for example the authors
    and I have been trying to get editors even to modernize the French textbook DEUX
    MONDES so teachers who are indeed using the cool technological
    r/evolutions can work with the textbooks to implement them inside and
    outside of the classroom. Oh yeah, what will it take to have a SKYPE
    enhanced textbook so our teachers and teaching assistants can
    communicate with the students outside the classroom and anywhere in the
    world in the target language? Same with tweets.  Nope. “Text-books” bigens are not interested in changing their
    ways. No money to invest there they think. I research simulation games, and I teach French with Sims 3. I
    build my own activities and students really enjoy learning French this
    way and through Skype. What will it take to see a textbook that takes
    into consideration virtual worlds, second lives, facebook, twitter and
    SKYPE?Well, it takes a fed-up individual that will self-publish through kindle or will create open source documents, and share freely with others, mais bien sur.

    So
    here you have an issue, greedy textbook companies are getting old, and broke teachers have a lot of sometimes useless technologies to deal with. Some
    teachers do not know their students’ technologies to make things worse and often  students do not have the (same) technologies in the aging classrooms.
    But lots of classes are taught online nowadays through technology. It
    is not about to be changed. There will be more gadgets, gizmos, more
    social revolutionary networks. I would love to see a true global
    revolution like you do. It will not come from the USA I am afraid, look
    at the Chinese. Work is the key to success. Training is the key to
    improving one’s skills. (Com)passion always works though. Teachers who
    are trained well, have a passion for teaching, use the technology
    intelligently and are able to interact with the students (and parents,
    and colleagues, etc) on various levels online and face to face (the
    human factor) always monitoring their progress with or without fancy
    programs are usually rewarded in many ways.

     

    @SKYNDLE

     

     It is obvious that the paper textbook
    will vanish. I wrote some while ago that it would be replaced but some form of Kindle merged with SKYPE
    education, and I called it something like @SKYNDLE “ as I was just dreaming about this type of  electronic
    skype enhanced “textbook” ;) I thought I would be used inside and
    outside the classroom freely, made from some sort of recycled material,
    good for the environment, that is always a plus. Those “SKYNDLE” could be
    found in bookstores and libraries across the world and available for
    loans. We need to circulate new fresh ideas freely and share! It would come
    with a top notch human translator (get working you translators out
    there) so we can communicate with each other through Skype. They would
    also come with pre-loaded games that puzzle the spirit and enhance the
    mind (new games that people who are reading this could build, one I will
    create for French) I suppose
    Google could be involved but I am sick of Google Kingdom and we would
    need a young engineer rather, something new like “EVOLVE” education web.As to the hardware Monsieur Eric could put stuff in it that would be intriguing and new. It
    would be given to children in the USA and in the world where illiteracy
    is on the rampage. Teachers would be exchanged, more particularly
    Chinese, Arabic, etc. Obviously nowadays classes can be taught through
    Skype as well.

    The
    screen would be different too, I said it would be “greener” and
    environmentally friendly and because I would like a more “human reader”
    or voicer it would have to look radically different as a hybrid. Maybe
    like an IPAD but not quite like it more like an ANDROID. One way or the
    other it must be Skype capable. This
    new tool should help teachers and learners alike REHUMANIZE teaching
    and yet still use technology but to help them teach not distract them
    from teaching! This is why it would have to be all integrated,
    self-sufficient and performative. As to the new options, imagine all the
    things like Blackboard, Moodle, Webct, etc can do, but with SKYPE and
    other traditional functions. One thing that obviously you would want
    your SKYNDLE to do is help you keep track of your students’ progress in a
    more efficient way. My experience with Blackboard is that it is a
    headache. Of course you can use portfolios. I do believe someone smart
    could create an application that would simplify SKYPE student progress
    and more regular overall students’ progress. Beware of aps though, I do
    not believe this SKYNDLE should NOT be an ap-ridden device. Well, I
    could go on about this dream SKYNDLE, I could draw it for you maybe but
    as you can see it would take many people to work on this I am afraid!
    this is what true collaboration is and ultimately what true global
    educators would want to see, no? What else would you want to see in tomorrow’s new teaching and learning tool that would make someone like Steve Jobs laugh? a good laugh! Merci et au revoir and dream on, RIP Monsieur Apple! MC 

  • http://twitter.com/kevinwttewaall Kevin Wttewaall

    ipads are a wonderful device for reading. I love being able to read in low light and change the size of the text.  The DRM in apps should be enough for textbook publishers to be confident there work is secure while sales opportunities have the potential to be viral.  The current text book marketing model and lack of granularity of the information is in real need of innovation.  Hopefully someone like Jobs will pick up the classroom resource innovation torch.