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2 Bioengineering Pioneers Win $250,000 Alpert Prize

September 16, 2011, 10:27 am

Two pioneers in bioengineering will share the 2011 Warren Alpert Foundation Prize, a $250,000 award that recognizes what the foundation described as their “extraordinary contributions” to medicine. The winners are Alain F. Carpentier, head of the department of cardiovascular surgery at the Hôpital Européen Georges Pompidou in Paris, who is best known for developing and implanting the first successful artificial bronchus, saving the lung of a patient with lung cancer; and Robert S. Langer, a biotechnology professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who is known for advancements in both drug delivery and tissue engineering. The two winners will be honored at a symposium on October 6 at Harvard Medical School.

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  • lkaiser

    Carpentier revolutionized the treatment of valvlular heart disease and in particular mitral valvluar disease with the development of techniques for repair of the diseased valve apparatus in addition to designing and perfecting a tissue valve replacement that revolutionized heart surgery. The tissue valve has saved thousands of people from the complications associated with anticoagulation required with a mechanical valve. I’m not sure where the “artificial bronchus” piece came from but it seems to be reproduced from story to story. Currently there is no use of any kind for an “artificial bronchus” and if this is attributed to Dr. Carpentier it takes a very distant second to his contributions to the design of the tissue heart valve. That being said there remains a need for a tracheal replacement and there have been some recent developments in that area.

  • lkaiser

    Carpentier revolutionized the treatment of valvlular heart disease and in particular mitral valvluar disease with the development of techniques for repair of the diseased valve apparatus in addition to designing and perfecting a tissue valve replacement that revolutionized heart surgery. The tissue valve has saved thousands of people from the complications associated with anticoagulation required with a mechanical valve. I’m not sure where the “artificial bronchus” piece came from but it seems to be reproduced from story to story. Currently there is no use of any kind for an “artificial bronchus” and if this is attributed to Dr. Carpentier it takes a very distant second to his contributions to the design of the tissue heart valve. That being said there remains a need for a tracheal replacement and there has been some recent developments in that area.

  • proffy_mommy

    I’m both bothered by and encouraged by this report. I’m of course encouraged to see data that indicates what most of us have “known” all along — that hybrid classes are about the same as face-to-face classes. But I’m discouraged by the statement that this could reduce compensation for those teaching such courses. I’ve taught a great many online and online-enhanced (or hybrid) courses. And I can confidently say that I spend far more time per student in these courses than in a traditional course. I have to manage more technology, read more written work, and grade a great deal more (students need more feedback for the elements of the course that take place outside of the classroom, and much of that tends to be qualitative work that requires time to assess and provide feedback for further development).  I would stop teaching these kinds of courses if my institution suddenly paid me less than a traditional course or if I suddenly had far more students assigned to me “per section” because of the format. 

    The advantage for cost-savings is not to short-change the instructors teaching these courses but to leverage the classroom space more effectively and to save money on facilities. It costs far more to heat and cool a classroom building than to provide server space, so by doubling up on the classes offered in a single location at peak hours of the day is to maximize cost-savings and to add value to the students’ education at the same time.  But don’t punish the instructors for having a good class that meets once a week instead of twice a week — that “online day” is far more time-consuming than a lecture class meeting for the instructor, and we do believe that good teaching should be compensated for what it is, right?

  • haohtt

    I mean no disrespect to the work of the researchers involved in this study, however, I find little that is newsworthy here. Media comparison studies in which “traditional” instruction is compared to technology-delivered instruction have been done by the hundreds (if not thousands) for over 60 years. Like this study, the overwhelming evidence has been “no significant difference,” except in those cases where online and hybrid instruction go beyond merely trying to mimic the face-to-face classroom and engage students in a way that causes them to spend more time on their learning. In these cases, outcomes often exceed those of traditional classes. Although this study had advantages over others, as a random sample was used, media comparision studies have been so over-done, and the results have become predictable.  We could gain much greater benefit from studies that compare different instructional and delivery strategies for hybrid/blended courses to see which are most effective.  The researchers have already identified a much more fruitful topic to investigate: “How can hybrid/blended courses be made easier for faculty members to customize and more fun for students to take.” Now, THERE’S a study that could be newsworthy!

  • http://www.facebook.com/commserver Jim Lou

    I am both a student and teacher online. I have a different prospective for each.

    I teach online and find that too many of the courses are canned. There is no real incentive for the student to really learn and they don’t. Very few students get anything out of the courses, which is too bad. As the instructor I have no say in anything but the criteria for grading.

    I am doctoral student in hybrid online/residency program. I have much reading to do with plenty of homework. I get graded very specifically on everything I do. I have to learn on my own. There is more going back and forth with others in my cohort.

  • idajones

    It will be interesting to see how these results can be translated to encourage more and deeper learning. I’ve used Twitter to promote discussion in a face to face class (http://idajones.wordpress.com/2012/05/18/twearning-the-experience/) and see possibilities when we use technology to help individually tutor students on the basics so that faculty can focus on teaching problem-solving and application.  Technology can be leveraged to help students learn.

  • andycockburn1971

    I have taught online and in hybrid situations for the last 10 years and there is a great misunderstanding that this format is somehow less work or preferable for ALL instructors and students.  That is just not so.
    Depending on your field of study, online/hybrid can actually be quite a benefit to the student who needs the flexibility afforded by this type of class.  If they want to finish an assignment or quiz at 4 am, they can.  If they want to work crazy hours while at school, they may be able to squeeze in an online course between classes and time at work.

    However, many students are not interested in ‘figuring it out’ themselves.  That’s not why they paid tuition.  They want value for their money.  Any hybrid course that lacks engaging content or features a static display with a prof simply lecturing online is bound to fail.  Think of what today’s student is exposed to when they spend time online!  High quality graphics, production value to rival Hollywood and limitless content.  Can ANY institution claim that they can compete with popular video games and video sites like You Tube?  

    Saving money on facilities is a lost leader.  Streamlining teaching practices is a fruitless effort.
    When Google (or another company of that magnitude) fires up their engines and starts offering online education with high quality content starring Morgan Freeman, everyone else will scramble and fall down.

  • ardvaark

    A couple of things to pay attention to. First, these students in fact had a weekly, one hour class. In my experience, hybrid classes never meet each week. So this model is much closer to a traditional classroom model than (again in my experience) the typical hybrid, which generally meets perhaps four times a semester. Second, the subject is statistics. Would this model work for all subjects? I think almost certainly not.

    We really really really want out of the classroom, don’t we…..?

  • cb_10

    Some observations:

    A large number of schools classify hybrid courses as courses where substantial seat time is replace by online interactions, and a number of these do so by running one class meeting per week, where there would usually be two or three. So, there are a number of schools with hybrid courses that meet on a weekly basis (including my own and the one I worked at before that).

    As I mentioned in the thread above, there are certainly subjects where full online instruction would be inappropriate. Laboratory chemistry or sculpture, for example. However, absent a strong physical component and any questions of student safety or institutional liability, a number of subjects are amenable to online or hybrid learning.

    One example: I’ve heard a number of English professors argue that they need direct access to students when they are writing, so they can look over their shoulders, make comments, and guide the process. Yet, in my undergraduate studies in English (second major, emphasis in creative writing) I don’t recall a single class that would have been handicapped by being delivered partially or completely online.

    Yes, the real time meetings with my classmates were fun and useful, as far as time management and camaraderie is concerned. However, the actual interaction and feedback could very well have been written and delivered online. Yes, I very much enjoyed the colorful personalities of my writing teachers (the cigarette, pipe, and cigar smoke not so much), but they’re professional writers for heaven’s sake. I have no doubt they’d have engaged the heck out of me online, and in their native, written habitat.

    My major in art is another story, but even there, the history component would easily transfer online, and even some of the studio work, particularly the work we did outside of the classroom, sketching and painting landscapes and passers-by, would migrate with only minimal distress, particularly if balanced by the in-class component of a hybrid course. If anything, it would play to the individualist nature of the artists in training.

  • http://twitter.com/BillofHouston Bill

    The main variables; subject matter, student and, instructor determine the most favorable methodology.  But because they vary what is favorable for one set may not be for the other.  There are some subjects that khanacademy.org presents very well.  Others require greater interaction with students to let them discovery the complexity of human interactions.  We are in the infancy of online education and as impressive as the tools may seem today they are certain to evolve.  The challenge to educators is to accept these tools and learn how best to use them.  Online education is already being used in public K-12 schools to a small degree.  You should expect this to continue both for political and economic reasons.  As the base becomes fluent in this modality they will expect it for their lives.  Like it (I do) or not this is the reality.  Offloading the drudge work will allow more personalization for those times and students who need it. It’s a roller coaster.  Enjoy the ride.

  • http://www.facebook.com/isafakir Isa Kocher

    the biggest cost increases are administrations including overbloated CEOs in 1965, i knew personally the dean at university of pennsylvania and regularly sat and drank coffee with full professors. similarly in graduate school at rutgers. other students are a major learning resource. now the dean is driven around campus in a limosine. all the secretaries knew my dog. now they never look at my face. online courses don’t need more administrators.  online courses do not have to be fill in the blank. i designed online courses at Sultan Qaboos University in the 90s. The University had a very limited library and virtually no trained librarians. Engineering learners were assigned a problem to solve. we used appropriate technology and ecology and assigned groups developed regional or country development plans. Impossible to plagiarize. For example permaculture in India was not an acceptable project although permaculture in Niger might be. Internet, computer skills, writing, reference library, research, documentation, biography, discourse, skills and a wide spectrum of basic science, philosophy of science, and other knowledge were incorporated into one course’s curriculum. Across the sciences scholars were able to enhance the practical effectiveness of limited University resources in a country which a little more than a decade earlier had no education at all. There was no additional budget. Just better allocation of teaching time and educational resources. Learners better prepared to take responsibility to know what they needed to know.

  • bscmath78

    cb_10, how about the argument that by the studies own choice of standardized test the courses failed to achieve much.  Footnote 19 on page 12 of “Interactive Learning Online at Public Universities: Evidence from Randomized Trials” tells use:

    “The CAOS test, or Comprehensive Assessment of Outcomes in Statistics, is a 40-item multiple-choice assessment designed to measure students’ statistical literacy and reasoning skills. One characteristic of the CAOS test is that (for a variety of reasons) scores do not increase by a large amount over the course of the semester. Among students in our study who took the CAOS test at both the beginning and end of the semester, the average score increase was 5 percentage points”

    The course achieved an average improvement of just 5%. Don’t you think that this is a ridiculously low number?  Don’t you think “(for a variety of reasons)” needs much more explanation.  The easiest answer is that the courses failed to teach.  And what would the scores have been 6 months after the end of the course?

  • http://www.facebook.com/LizFixsen Elizabeth Fixsen

    There is a mention of reducing teaching costs. But whether the course is online or not, someone has to grade all the papers. And in any course involving writing, that is a huge task that takes probably more time than lesson planning and in-classroom teaching combined. Rather than “reducing teaching costs,” universities should be paying MORE to faculty –especially adjuncts, whose hourly rate of compensation comes out to something around $12-$15 an hour when grading papers is factored in.

  • bscmath78

    The most striking thing about this study is the strikingly pathetic results achieved, by presumably a very well thought out hybrid course by CMU.  The study reports in Footnote 19 that between the start and end of the course:

    “the average score increase was 5 percentage points.”

    which seems especially terrible since you would have expected much better due to the Placebo Effect and the Hawthorne Effect.

    What this study seems to show is that both regular and hybrid instruction are largely a failure at teaching introductory statistics, at least as measured by CAOS. It is surprising that such spectacularly poor results aren’t headlined.

  • bscmath78

    One might also suspect that:

    “the average score increase was 5 percentage points”

    could be explained simply by those students that dropped out or by the fact that one might suspect a lack of attention to the pre-course running of the CAOS test.
     
    The reality may be that neither regular nor hybrid courses achieve anything of value.  And if one were to get CAOS results 6 months later what would they show? 

  • bscmath78

    This study provides additional proof of the poor effectiveness of education. Remember the study, “the average score increase was 5 percentage points.”

    Here is an example of the abysmal effectiveness of  stats education at an R1.  Here the key aspect is the terrible performance of the Statistics TAs  relative to the students they were supposedly teaching, when most of the TAs had already seen the answers.

    In 1976, 600 Berkeley students averaged 65 on the “Statistics 2″ final, with a standard deviation of 20.  Then at the start of the next academic year the 25 TAs for the same “course took exactly the same test.” They averaged only 72, with a standard deviation of 20.  A footnote reveals,”About half of the TAs had participated in grading the final, and many had graded similar finals in other quarters.”  The TAs for the course, even when they had seen the answers for the final, were still only slightly better that the undergrads they were teaching!

    The Statistics TAs, even when many had previously marked the final exam, were only slightly better (72 vs. 65) on average than their own students when they take the same exam later!  Even with “the blind leading the blind,” the undergrads did remarkable well compared to their TAs, probably because they were 1976 Berkeley undergrads.

    See page 560 of “Statistics”, 3rd Edition, Exercise Set D #1. “Statistics”, 3rd Edition, by Freedman, Pisani, Purves, 1998, is an introductory statistics textbook for the non-mathematical college student. The authors were Berkeley professors of statistics.  So one might suspect that the case comes from Freedman’s own class.

    Imagine how well the undergrads would have done on the exam a month, 3 months or a year after. It all illustrates the deep misconception about college that most people learn something from a course they got credit for.

    Or more critically that formal college classroom education has much practical effect on the behavior of most graduates.  “Use it, or lose it!” but in the “pump and dump” world of many college students not much lasts beyond the end of the exam cram.

  • mmclellan

    I have taught hybrid courses in the mix with traditional courses for two reasons. First, as a graduate program director, I saw the challenges of of scheduling courses and of giving working graduate students choices. The hybrid classes had a smaller footprint on the course schedule, at the same time, I was confident that I could design an equal or better learning experience for the students in the mixed mode format. I also teach a general education, writing intensive course as a hybrid course. There, my goals are to expose students in a carefully structured way to some rich online resources and to encourage students to write more and in more different formats (online discussion, blog, essay questions).  Other than taking a small amount of pressure off of classroom and parking space, these hybrid courses in no way save the university funding and the courses certainly didn’t save on faculty time.

  • frharry

    “Some experts advocate online classes as a way to deliver courses more economically and effectively…”

    Experts in what? So long as administrators talk about “delivering” classes, they simply cannot be taken seriously. Delivery suggests passive recipients who are receiving something already completed for them. But a college course cannot be thus delivered. It can only be offered. And unless it is actively engaged, it cannot be completed, thus proving ultimately worthless and a waste of money.

    The language and concepts of economics might well serve the segment of society devoted to business but it serves other areas of society poorly, particularly when uncritically applied. And the argument that hybrid courses are essentially no worse than F2F classes suggests a failure to carry the burden of persuasion regarding their ultimate value.

  • bscmath78

    Unemployed_Northeastern, you point is excellent.  Though the damning result of only a 5% improvement in CAOS scores over the WHOLE hybrid course that is hidden in footnote 19 seems very much worth pursuing.

    It should also be noted that the article quotes someone who appears to be the same William G. Bowen who came out with a 1989 study that predicted a Humanities Ph.D. shortage.  Many seem to forget Lynne V. Cheney’s New York Times Op-Ed rebuttal “The Phantom Ph.D. Gap”?   They also seem to forget the Bowen and Sosa rebuttal letter http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/09/opinion/l-we-can-act-on-coming-faculty-shortage-now-414089.html
    which says:

    “The severe shortages of faculty members that we project for 1997-2002 are not caused primarily by ‘faculty members retiring, dying and otherwise leaving the academy,’ but rather to known population trends that will affect enrollment in the late 1990′s.”

    As with many studies and articles on studies your “many grains of salt” are valid.

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  • bscmath78

    The article quotes someone who appears to be the same William G. Bowen who came out with a 1989 study that predicted a Humanities Ph.D. shortage.  Many seem to forget Lynne V.
    Cheney’s New York Times Op-Ed rebuttal “The Phantom Ph.D. Gap”?   They also seem to forget the Bowen and Sosa rebuttal letter http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/09/opinion/l-we-can-act-on-coming-faculty-shortage-now-414089.html

    which says:

    “The severe shortages of faculty members that we project for 1997-2002 are not caused primarily by ‘faculty members retiring, dying and otherwise leaving the academy,’ but rather to known population trends that will affect enrollment in the late 1990′s.”

  • 11308938

    The “significance” of the finding of “no signficant difference” would be enhanced if the instructors made use of quality assured open educational resources, thereby reducing the costs of student learning materials to near-zero.  With students now paying textbook costs that equal 25% of their tuition, they would flock to courses where learning outcomes are the same as those that require high priced textbooks.

  • bscmath78

    The article tells us, via William G. Bowen:

    “But surely these courses are going to improve dramatically as they become more customizable and more fun.”

    How does allowing the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rate people (see also my post about 1976 Berkeley Statistics TAs) customize courses developed by experts at CMU going to improve things “dramatically”?

    When did a college stats course become nursery school? When did “more fun” become an academic goal, as opposed to an edutainment goal?  Given the reported, “the average score increase was 5 percentage points” in footnote 19 of the study, one might think getting better results would be more important.

    But “improve” may just mean from the viewpoint of the edutainment business where it might appear long term learning isn’t all that important, but selling certainly appears to be.

  • bscmath78

    The article starts, “Students learn just as much in a course that’s taught partly online as they would in a traditional classroom . . .”

    But based on the referenced study (footnote 19) wouldn’t it be more accurate to start:

    Students learn nothing or almost nothing in a course that’s taught partly online just as 90% would largely fail to learn in a traditional classroom. No harm is done because both are almost equally ineffective. But both collect the money and generate the credit regardless of whether 90% learn nothing beyond the very short term.  Even over the short term the hybrid course only resulted in a 5% average improvement in standardized test scores, before and after taking the hybrid course, which might only be due to students dropping out.”

  • tporges

    Hybrid courses like this are ideal for teachers with limited english capability, who wish to channel discussion into smaller and more thematically limited cohort groups. Interesting courses become dull and dull courses become numbing and routine. The format is ideal for programs interested in bringing normative pressure to bear on classroom discussion, because there IS NO classroom discussion. During the limited F2F time available, there is only time for a quick lecture and a few minutes of questions about the readings. Fundamental questions about the meaning and purpose of the course will never arise. It’s a fine way to teach robots, if that’s what you’re after. And it’s a fine way to design self-justifying classes that are never exposed to any kind of challenge beyond the (also mechanical and limiting) consumer questionnaires at the end of the semester. The plus and minus of hybrid courses is the same: it completely excludes the student from engagement with the design or objectives of the class. This is great for control freaks and teachers who never want to question their assumptions, or allow them to be questioned in their presence. It’s an advance in technology and a decline in everything else. 

  • tporges

    Critical thinking is developed discursively; that’s been true for the last 2500 years, at least. The premise that this will suddenly change with online hybrid courses is one which will, at minimum, have to prove itself with positive demonstrations, and these do not exist. It’s erectly possible for people who have never met each other in the flesh to develop strong discursive relationships, but it takes time — more time than a face to face class, NOT LESS. And less is what is made available. 

    In reference to “pedagogic habit,” the pressure imposed by sexy technology is to remove discussion from the classroom and thus to remove it from normal time: to make it asynchronous. Most per discussion board I’ve seen in my experience of hybrid courses resemble community help desks where students aid each other in resolving software difficulties and (at the limits of controversy) establishing common definitions for terms used in the readings.

    I would agree that teachers who can’t inspire critical discussion in class will fail to do so online as well, but that failure can be more easily hidden online, and that is where my argument with the current state of hybrid classes lies.

  • Socratease2

    I agree with your ciritique but don’t think the placebo affect can be applied to a change from traditional to hybrid design. Why would students think more on-line instruction would automatically make them improve or learn better as someone would think about a medication placebo which is being sold as something it isn’t. There is no bait and switch with a move to a hybrid approach. It simply is what it is. The only way that would apply is if students are being told (lied to more accurately) that hybrid design classes make students learn and test better by upwards of 25%. And that is a social psychology experiment as opposed to rational course design.

  • bscmath78

    “It was also surprising that for almost all items, there was a noticeable number of students who selected the correct response on the pretest, but chose an incorrect response on the posttest.”

    This interesting tidbit is contained in a report that footnote 19 of the study references.

    That report provides background on the development of the CAOS and the testing of the CAOS 4 version of it:

    “Although statistically significant, this was only a small average increase of 9 percentage points (95% CI = [8.2,9.9] or 3.3 to 4.0 of the 40 items). It was surprising to find that students were correct on little more than half of the items, on average, by the end of the course.”

    http://www.stat.auckland.ac.nz/~iase/serj/SERJ6%282%29_delMas.pdf

    So 9% in that report while this study reports the even sadder:
     
    “Among students in our study who took the CAOS test at both the beginning and end of the semester, the average score increase was 5 percentage points.”

    Worse results than the verification test results, so one might expect even worse results in real life when no one is paying close attention.

  • bscmath78

    CAOS is 40 question multiple-choice test. It appears that there is no penalty associated with incorrect answers.  Therefore it is again a test that rewards strategic guessing.

    The CAOS developers used these criteria in their verification testing:

    ” . . . if the test was taken out of class, have taken at least 10 minutes, but no more than 60 minutes, to complete the test. The latter criterion was used to eliminate students who did not engage sufficiently with the test questions or who spent an excessive amount of time on the test, possibly looking up answers.”

    http://www.stat.auckland.ac.nz/~iase/serj/SERJ6%282%29_delMas.pdf

    It all seems incredibly lax.  Given it is a multiple-choice test, the maximum time allowed should be 20 minutes and every wrong answer should have a penalty of 10 to highly discourage guessing of any kind. You either know or you don’t know the answer.

    But even with their incredibly lax setup the results were poor:

    “There was an increase from an average percentage correct of 44.9% on the pretest to
    an average percentage correct of 54.0% on the posttest”

    The sad results of the hybrid CAOS posttest was 47.5%, with exam results of 56.7% and yet, somehow, 79.7% were allowed to pass (see Figure 1 page 19 of the study referenced by the article).

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  • bscmath78

    Unemployed_Northeastern, further to your Ithaka observation is the fact that the cover of the study shows what looks like a half-hidden ancient Greek sailing vessel.  This appears to the moderately awake cognoscenti as a clear reference to the infamous trickster Odysseus and his long, deadly and cursed journey back to Ithaka (using the Greek spelling). 

    Is it a subliminal warning to Penelope or to us, to hold fast against blandishments of a horde distance learning suitors, who are eating out of house and home, until Odysseus can return pass the test and then turn his Bow against the suitors?  Or are we also warned to ask him to move the bed? What say the students of Homer?

  • peter99

    One premise that is questionable is focusing on instructional costs (faculty compensation).  Food for thought – according to the recent report “A Very Slow Recovery”,

    “Over the past three decades tuition has increased at a much faster rate than full-time faculty salaries. The contrast is starkest at public institutions, where tuition and fees have increased over the past decade by 72 percent when accounting for inflation, largely in response to declines in state support. During that same time, the salaries of public-college professors, when adjusted for inflation, rose by less than 1 percent at doctoral and baccalaureate institutions and fell by more than 5 percent at master’s universities.

    Reported here in the Chronicle.
    http://chronicle.com/article/Faculty-Group-Says/131432/?sid=wb&utm_source=wb&utm_medium=en

  • bscmath78

    nanbunge, it is the concept of cutting instruction costs that is so appealing because many do not like instructors, instruction or learning academic material.  Cost realities aren’t important when appealing to the emotions and the costs can be fudged or hidden or faked.

    Most students do NOT want more money spent on instruction. Willingness-To_Pay was only really positive for the lone combination of Male, 75th percentile or higher Math and 75th percentile or higher SES, according to the study that I referenced in this post:
    http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/stanfords-credential-problem/46851#comment-529467645

    Another contributing factor may be the increased percentage of politicians and voters with some college. Maybe what they really learned (or remember) in college was more beer and football is good, while more instruction is bad.  Administrators who presumably have some knowledge of instruction also seem to dislike instruction.  It might be that “Familiarity breeds contempt” when it comes to college instruction, or at least for the 90(?)% who think that college is a place for “more fun” and credentials with the least amount of effort possible.

  • archman

    Make no mistake, the push for increased online/hybrid courses over the last decade has *not* been to increase student learning or improve course availability. The major driver overwhelmingly has been to cut instructional costs. Virtually any college administrator or consultant who says otherwise is either ignorant or completely full of #%^.

    So long as the primary motivator for online/hybrid continues to be financial and not educational, we as faculty will lose out on our ability to teach online/hybrid in a manner that improves student success rather than simply cheapens it. Anyone that *effectively* teaches hybrid/online knows full well that the amount of work involved matches if not exceeds that for teaching traditionally.

  • bscmath78

    “A leader of one of the universities that actively participated in our study opined that a defect of the CMU prototype course is that it has no “addictive” or “Disney-like” appeal; it was, as this person put it, “designed by cognitive scientists” (no offense intended!).”

    So says page 22 of the study.  And page reveals the true meaning of “fun”:

    ” . . . and to make it more ‘fun’ (more addictive) for both students and faculty to use the system . . ”

    Maybe the future of Stats education is a trip to Las Vegas? Or a trip to the closest video poker machine or video lottery terminal?  Or maybe just pay to take the course at the Campus Casino? 

    Of course, various gambling and video games are designed with the help of some cognitive scientists to be addictive, but maybe that isn’t appropriate for learning, as opposed to maximizing the money extracted from students?  If that is the objective, then just open up the Campus Casino.

  • bscmath78

    It is surprising that the study didn’t examine the very cost effective scenario of NO instructor.  The CMU course was intended to allow no instructor.  As footnote 17 says, “Both the statistics course and other courses in the OLI suite were originally intended to be comprehensive enough to allow students to learn the material independently without the guidance of an instructor.”

    Since under the hybrid scheme, “the average score increase was 5 percentage points” it seems likely that the top 10% of students could beat this number without an instructor, especially if they would get a full refund for the course if they got better than 50% on the CAOS test.  It would be interesting to see what the results would be in general if the course cost was reduced to $100 in exchange for no instructor.

  • bscmath78

    It seems odd that there isn’t the offer of full credit in “STAT101″ for anyone who scores over 35% on the CAOS test and pays $100, skipping the course entirely.

    The sad results of the hybrid CAOS posttest was 47.5%, with exam results of 56.7% and yet, somehow, 79.7% were allowed to pass (see Figure 1 page 19 of the study referenced by the article).

    So 35% on the CAOS test seem reasonable since for those who don’t take the course it is a sign that they actually learned something previously, while the hybrid course tells you nothing about what they will remember in a month or 6 months.

  • bscmath78

    Even odder is the lack of randomization based on “prior exposure to statistics”.  Even though the students were asked:

    “1. Which of the following best describes your prior exposure to statistics? (Please check one of the following.)
    □ I have had no prior classroom exposure to statistics before this course (STAT 101)
    □ Before college, I saw a little statistics as part of another course (for instance, some topics covered in a high-school math class).
    □ Before college, I took a whole statistics course but I did not take the AP Statistics exam.
    □ Before college, I took a whole statistics course and I took the AP Statistics exam.
    □ I took a whole college-level statistics course before this semester.
    □ Other (please specify): ”

    I don’t see any mention of this as either a basis for randomizing the trial or as a factor in exam/CAOS scores or any other measurement.

    I would have thought that someone who did very well on AP Statistics would hopefully do well on both CAOS and the final exam, regardless of regular or hybrid course.  If they didn’t then that ought to be an important result and in fact would be any correlation between “prior exposure” and current results.

  • marvchron

    The bias of the article is clear. This is illustrated by the statement ”Some experts advocate online classes as a way to deliver courses more economically and effectively, particularly for members of minority groups and others who might be subject to stereotypes in a classroom setting. Meanwhile, skeptics suspect that online approaches depersonalize education and shortchange students.” Experts (those in the know) advocate, but skeptics (uninformed cranks) suspect.
       There is much evidence that student-teacher interaction greatly influences student achievement. Why do we continually look for ways to decrease the amount of something that we know works?  

  • bscmath78

    Of course, if I had run things, the Baseline Survey would have asked things like:

    What are the dates of each of the times that you took the AP Statistics exam and what score did you get for each of them? 

    And then for each of the questions the answers would be cross-checked against the university admissions information. Discrepancies would be very interesting.

  • bscmath78

    Given Malcolm Gladwell’s “Outliers” I would have been interested in randomizing on age at start of school and seeing if there are any correlations.  In “Outliers,” Gladwell indicates those who start Kindergarden at an older age (due to date of birth and school district rules) have an advantage that tends to result in a virtuous circle, as success breeds success.  The survey used is quite nosy, it asks year and month of birth, yet the study doesn’t appear to have made use of the data.  It is worth knowing if there is no correlation.  But given the quite sad:

    “the average score increase was 5 percentage points”

    it is possible that these course are so very bad, whether regular or hybrid, that hardly anyone learns much of anything, it may be pure random luck. Or as I suggested earlier, it is possible that no one learned much of anything and the improved average is just due to dropouts.   It is also possible that CAOS may not be an effective measurement of what is attempted to be taught by either the regular or hybrid course. But then why was it used?

  • bscmath78

    The deliberate strategy of delaying the start of kindergarten for your child to give them a long term advantage in life, is discussed in a 60 Minutes piece “Redshirting: Holding kids back from kindergarten”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57390128/redshirting-holding-kids-back-from-kindergarten/

    As a side note, this Harvard Health Publications article publication gives the impression that some Kindergarten’s seem to be operating a levels that exceed what appears to be happening in some middle schools:

    “Today, kindergarten is drawing, writing, literacy, reading, and science
    and math and all those subjects that kids didn’t used to get until
    first or second grade.”

    http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/kindergarten-redshirting-is-popular-but-is-it-necessary-201203064455

    So maybe the Baseline Survey should have asked about private school and pre-school?

  • bscmath78

    Unemployed_Northeastern, what do you think of Inside Higher Education’s take on things?”Score One for the
    Robo-Tutors” http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/05/22/report-robots-stack-human-professors-teaching-intro-stats

    Their article is about the same report.  They seem much more interested in the potential cost saving. I couldn’t find mention of the issues I raised.

  • nanbunge

     Thanks the lecture on the importance of knowing how to use technology properly and for providing a link so that I can inform myself on its wonders, but the link you supplied doesn’t work.  As a professor, I think the goal of the university is not to function as cheaply as possible but to instruct as well as possible.  And, I would guess all those large, air-conditioned,well-decorated administrative offices cost at least as much as classrooms.  Perhaps you can explain to me why the well-compensated Gordon Gee, for instance, recently cited  Ohio State’s  faculty’s unwillingness to pay for parking when discussing high tuition with THE NEW YORK TIMES.  And perhaps you can explain to me why there is one administrator for every faculty member in the colleges and universities in this country.  The biggest financial problem universities have is all those administrators, but the media constantly asks these administrators what the problem is and the administrators persistently shift the issue away from themselves to the faculty. 

  • bscmath78

    FYI, this study didn’t appear to control the length of time for the CAOS test.  Some institutions allowed only 30 minutes for the in-class CAOS test.  I didn’t see any discussion in the study of the impact of varying the test period on test results.

  • bscmath78

    It is possible that the reason for all the lecturing at Institution A was that the CMU course didn’t cover all the material that needed to be covered in the regular course at Institution A.  Yet that reason for 90% lecture is not provided. No reason was provided.

  • bscmath78

     It would have been interesting to know if the performance of the 60% of the Institution A hybrid class that didn’t attend class was statistically different than that of those who did attend Friday afternoon.

  • bscmath78

    It would have been interesting to have collected personality, behavioral, intention and attitude data to differentiate between those who volunteered for the experiment and those who didn’t.  It would have been interesting to compare the CAOS and exam results of those who volunteered and those that didn’t and if there were any correlations with the personality etc. data.

  • bscmath78

    It would have also been interesting to see if there were signs of the “entitlement” attitudes or of the “5-10%” that Kenrick S. Thompson refers to in one of his responses in the thread for his Letter to the Editor, “Students’ Sense of Entitlement Drives Away a Faculty Member”:

    “My father, a distinguished professor of psychology, now deceased, always told me, ‘Son…..if you feel that you have reached 5-10% of your students, then consider yourself a success as an educator.’”

    http://chronicle.com/article/Students-Sense-of-Entitlement/131879/#comment-531195297

    Jerome Karabel’s “The Chosen” documents the deliberate measures to keep the number at 10% or less at Harvard, Yale and Princeton, in the first part of the 20th Century. Gerald Graff’s “Professing Literature” provides a quotation that suggests that 5% or less of the students of MLA professors fit the bill.

    Though, the tiny increase in CAOS scores suggests no one was learning much in either the regular or the hybrid course.

  • bscmath78

    The study reports:

    “Among students in our study who took the CAOS test at both the beginning and end of the semester, the average score increase was 5 percentage points.”

    This sad result, which appears to be true for both the traditional and hybrid Intro Stats courses, seems even worse than the CLA results reported in “Academically Adrift” and related reports (assuming you believe in the CLA and the handling of the data, please see earlier threads for some of the issues).  The most interesting aspect of that data was going to a “High Selectivity” college or taking certain majors produced maximum differences among treatments, over 4 years, of 5-6% of the lowest average scores.

    The important take away from this study combined with “Academically Adrift” is not that hybrid courses “do no harm,” but that college does NO real good in the majority of cases, no matter what is done.  This is something that should get more attention.

  • bscmath78
  • Unemployed_Northeastern

    @chronicle-15bf71a93d53f3fa044dd3b5f99a7a58:disqus 

    In regards to the IHE article, I’ll put on my hat of flippancy and say it’s just another step towards the ultimate goal of using the children of Siri + Watson to take over all instruction, while administrators charge $100,000/year so as to repay their second mortgages in Newport or Newport Beach.

    On a more serious note, I think this sentence is the takeaway from that article: “A hybrid teaching model could shift a great to deal of the teaching burden from tenured professors to teaching assistants and support staff.”  So, third-party for-profit vendors make bank by getting Max Headroom to deal with the mewling, indebted students so that the tenured profs can cloister themselves even further from their supposed mission of, you know, teaching, to create more [profitable] scholarship for the institution.  Sounds like a great deal for everyone except the students, but who cares about them, anyhow?  What do they bring to the equation aside from the debt-financed capital that keeps all of higher ed swimming in money?  Why not go all the way and just have them be taught by the Clippy the Paperclip from MS Word?

    Incidentally, does anyone actually read IHE?  I ask only because with a mere 10 comments posted there, I seem to have become a Top 100 poster.  Which is sad for all parties concerned.

  • bscmath78

    Unemployed_Northeastern, thanks for your comments. Your point about your being in the Top 100 with only 10 posts is interesting, but I don’t know what it means.  Maybe be IHE has a higher lurker ratio?  It used to be said that on the web it was 1:10:100 – 1 creates, 10 comment, 100 lurker readers.  Maybe at IHE it is now: 1:5:10000.  Or it could just be a mysterious algorithm that  periodically resets and you fit in the reset window, especially since it is past mid-May so many might have lost interest.

  • http://twitter.com/ronbronson Ron Bronson

    I taught a hybrid class a few years ago and the biggest problem was really the lack of classroom time. We felt we really needed more time to engage and interact and I found the online components so much less satisfying than the classroom parts. Part of it was the material and my teaching style, but I feel the format is certainly better for most things than just all online when it’s feasible.

  • bscmath78

    Peter DeCourcy, thank you for your comments, but no, it has everything to do with, “the hybrid course failed to achieve much” because it was the SAME failure as the traditional courses, which is why I wrote ” The easiest answer is that the courses failed to teach” in my post here. And why a day ago, I wrote down thread:

    “The reality may be that neither regular nor hybrid intro statistics courses achieve anything of lasting value for 90% of students.  And if one were to get CAOS results 6 months later what would they show?”

    You wrote, “That footnote indicates the overall effectiveness of the course on the CAOS test regardless of the delivery modality, I believe.”and I agree with you, but it appears that you have failed to notice the outrageously bad performance of BOTH courses.  The headline should be screaming outrage about both type of courses being so bad and being a waste of time and month for students and taxpayers.

  • barbrad

     NanBunge:  I would like to politely disagree with you.  At my community college, online courses do not necessitate more administrators.  I teach online courses all the time; there are no new people staring over my (virtual) shoulder.  Further, I teach mathematics, so it is very dificult to make my online classes “work” as you say; but usually half the students pass which is not bad (though not satisfactory) for online mathematics classes.

    On the other hand, in my experience, hybrid classes definitely have higher retention rates than do purely online classes.  There are always a few people who hate computers and wish they were elsewhere, and there are always a few who love working with computers.  Most students live in the middle, doing their work to one extent or another.  Life for me is a little easier when I teach hybrids; at least I don’t have to grade homework.  Theoretically, life is a little easier for my students; they can use the HELP buttons when they are at home.  However, students who take hybrid classes want a face-to-face teacher to supplement their computer learning.  Students who take purely online classes either don’t need a teacher, or are unable to get to campus.