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February 17, 2011, 11:00 am

wonder_storiesAfter my post about perceptions versus reality in the classroom a few weeks ago, several folks wrote to ask about Storify. I’ve been playing around with Storify for a few months now, since the very end of its private beta, and I like the way I can weave tweets, links, videos, and other media into one coherent storyline. The interface is as simple as it could be: on the left side, you can browse through content from Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Google search, RSS feeds, or by entering links directly. For the latter three kinds of content, Storify will attempt to create an icon and headline for the items you find. For social media and YouTube items, Storify will embed the entire tweet or video into your timeline. To build your timeline, you just drag items from the left side of the interface to the timeline on the right. You can move things around as you want, and add intervening blocks of text—headlines, descriptions, etc.

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At the bottom of this post I’ve embedded a story I created in Storify for our English undergrads here at St. Norbert College who are considering graduate school. I used Storify because it allowed me to do more than list a series of links to relevant resources. Storify made it easy to contextualize those links with the advice of academics from around the country, and from a range of institutions—and with a bit of humor through the Simpsons clip. Instead of presenting only my opinion about graduate school—they get enough of that in person—they could hear from the many smart folks in my twitter community, which I think lent more authority to the advice.

I do wish Storify was more flexible. I wish I could customize the look of the timelines more than the service currently allows. This one seems very simple: but I wish I could rename or edit the titles that Storify imports from URLs. Right now Storify will title some links “untitled,” and the only way to address this is to add a headline above the “untitled” link. I would love to see a few different templates for presentation, as well—right now users are limited to the vertical timeline metaphor. These are mostly quibbles, though, and I expect Storify will expand its options as the service grows.

If you need to tell stories that incorporate a mix of links, videos, and social media, give Storify a try. Sharing your Storify stories is as easy as putting them together. You can send folks to the Storify site, share it through Twitter or Facebook, or grab the embed code and incorporate your story on another website.

As promised, here is my grad school story:

[Creative Commons licensed photo by Flickr user pixeljones.]

 
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  • http://www.andrea-zellner.com/ Andrea Zellner

    Thanks for this post. I really like the way storify looks: even our local newspapers have been using it. Unfortunately, I asked for an invite in September of last year and am still waiting. It would be nice if they opened up to regular old users since I know a good many educators who would benefit from the service. If there is something more one should do to campaign for an invite, could someone let me know in the comments?

  • http://twitter.com/meg_stewart Meg Stewart

    @ryancordell Excellent advice/insights into grad school pursuits & use of twitter, oh, and Storify.

  • kimaknight

    I really like your grad school advice story and would like to share it with my students. I’ve been really impressed with the number of different ways I’ve seen people using Storify.

    I’d also like to add that I noticed a problem with the FF bookmarklet and wrote to them. Within a week they came up with a fix and notified me of it. They are quite responsive to user feedback.

    In fact, @andreazeliner, I wrote to the folks at Storify using the “contact” link at the bottom of their page and explained what kinds of classes I am currently teaching and how Storify would fit into them. They responded within a few days with an invite code for my students.

  • bryanalexander

    There are a bunch of these kinds of mixers, like Curated.by and Memolane. Is there a generic name for ‘em?

  • jbowers

    Wow!

  • http://ryan.cordells.us Ryan Cordell

    Interesting question, Bryan–I’m honestly not sure!

  • http://ryan.cordells.us Ryan Cordell

    Feel free to use and share.

  • http://brendabethman.com Brenda Bethman

    I just saw Memolane referred to on Twitter as “digital scrapbooking.” Not a bad comparison. Not sure that works for Curated.by, though.

  • http://derekbruff.com Derek Bruff

    Thanks for the great post. I’ve sometimes wanted to share tweets from some event on my blog, and while cutting and pasting selected tweets works, Storify looks like a slicker option. Going beyond just tweets takes things to another level. Hmm…

  • burger1376

    Ok, be white and try it sometime. See what happens.

  • arrive2__net

    A prof plays a relatively important role in the students’ lives… the prof assigns tasks the student has to do, evaluates the student, and grades the student (and those grades last for a long time in the student’s transcript). It stands to reason that the student would want to get to know the prof well enough to be comfortable. At the same time the prof is probably better served if the students know something about him or her, rather than letting them fill in the blanks for themselves without any actual knowledge. So appropriate use of the social media seems like a win-win. It good to see there is reliable research-based information like this available.

    Bernard Schuster
    Arrive2.net
    Twitter.com/arrive2_net

  • anummabrooke

    Several of my students choose to Friend me on Facebook, and most of my status updates are of the “impersonally personal” vein described in the article linked in the penultimate ‘graph above: funny (to me) quotes or observations about family life, occasional music recommendations, that sort of thing. My Tweets, by contrast, tend to be more restricted to my field of study. Sure enough, students interact *much* more with my Facebook than with my Twitter feed.

    As far as “drawing the line”: I try not to be too overtly political on my Facebook, and don’t use it to “process” on personal decisions or problems, or to express frustration about any part of my teaching (though I might express an appropriate level of frustration with writing or research).

  • doolittle222

    I don’t Tweet or include my students on Facebook. I’d rather maintain strict boundaries between my personal and professional lives, for many reasons. What does that mean? I personally love my work, but I don’t share the details of my weekend. My research might relate to personal experience, but that’s actually not that relevant to their learning the content, in my case.

    I’d like students to learn to write paragraphs, not Tweets. I can see the value for a communications class or something directly related to class, but I would use a university-sponsored network instead.

    Aren’t there more substantial ways to gain credibility? As professionals, I think we have a good sense of what it means to be credible in our fields, and we should pass this onto our students. I don’t find my colleagues more credible for posting on Facebook, though I care about how they’re doing and find their musings interesting. I find credibility in their teaching and research.

    I’m not under any illusions that students really care what I did on my spring break, and I learned early on not to ask about their weekends. (I no longer assign personal journals either–TMI!) By the way, according to evaluations, most students find me friendly and accessible anyway. Class and office hours are enough for me!

  • http://twitter.com/drdamoreland deborah moreland

    As a teacher in an independent secondary school, I agree with doolittle222′s statements about boundaries. I do not feel it necessary to participate in those sorts of chats with my students, and I hope that they understand my humanity through the discussions we have rather than through my superficial chat about my workout habits or plans for the weekend.

    However, the limited number of words permitted in a tweet requires a concision in expression that can be a challenge for students (see the article in the NYT recently on the subject). For this reason, I am beginning to think there is a place for twitter in teaching writing. Right now I am working on ways for students to practice writing tight precis via tweets or to tweet their thesis sentences as a way to workshop them in class.

    So for me twitter’s value lies not in “gaining credibility” with my students but as a means to help them to write better while participating in a growing and apparently essential technology of communication.

  • me_malarcher

    Is the expression “open door policy” used any more? If a student, at any age, feels like the instructor has a personal interest in them, I believe that helps with their education. Then there are students who you can give all you have to help them, and you wind up wasting your energy and time.

    Knowing more about your student one on one is what I found creates trust, because they feel you care about them. Encouragement and extra time spent with the student usually has a long lasting impact on their self confidence and education. To do that you have to get to know them.

    It has been the experience of my students that they regard professors who spend a great deal of their time twitting about themselves are narcissistic, condescending and pretentious. This is what I hear, not what I say.

    I have heard the students comment that professors who use a lot of social networking to talk about themselves think everything is about them (the professor.) A lot of them just plain do not care about someones moment by moment announcements of their daily life.

    These are just a few of the complaints that I have heard the student comment on about twittering. They have remarked that is seems like you are using a person’s personal life for entertainment. Charlie Sheen seemed to be a common example to explain the “tabloid” effect of “too much information” when asked what they thought about twittering.

    My students are liberal art students in a small university too. I find they do need affirmation about their abilities and opportunities to acquire new knowledge. I have a hard time understanding how a student benefits from knowing more about my personal life. I try to encourage them to be more concerned and conscious about their lives and future. Students are clever, and the biggest benefit that I can understand about twittering about myself, is that it gives them insight into how they can “brown nose” me for better grades.

  • donnatalarico

    I agree with the results of this study. I taught (as an adjunct) a course called Social Media and Public Relations at Wilkes University last spring. Tweeting was a requirement of the class and, while I created a special username for me as the instructor, many of the students also followed my personal account. I felt that overall the class of 25 students collectively respected my openness and that this transparency was a great lesson for the larger world of social media. I taught them how CEOs tweeted on behalf of companies and instead of hiding behind closed penthouse doors, they instead personally related to their audience. If we can start that at the college level when many are first exposed to Twitter, I think we are grooming great social media citizens. Even before Twitter, I always felt closer to professors who shared personal anecdotes in class rather than straight lecture. They became more real. Tools like Twitter allow us to do that in a new and different way. Those TMI types of tweets are probably not necessary, but general sharing can be so powerful in many ways.

  • donnatalarico

    And also – using Twitter the right way is key. If professors are only tweeting about where they are going for lunch, they are missing the point. The value in this is when there is sharing of knowledge. Sure, the quick personal tweets may slip in, but I really use Twitter to stay on top of trends in my industry, following hashtags like #highered and #hemktg. There is even a #prstudchat, where PR pros allot time to answer questions and engage with PR students across the nation/world. It is an incredibly useful tool. It doesn’t replace writing exercises, so I always get miffed when people comment that it’s ruining writing. It’s just a different way of sharing information and meeting like-minded people. My former students are finding jobs and internships via Twitter. For industries like communications, marketing, PR, technology, eCommerce — Twitter is a must. I could go on and on!

  • http://inklingmedia.net Ken Mueller

    As an adjunct at two colleges, and someone who teaches Social Media, I find that the interaction with my students and others is an incredible help. We get to know each other much better. As part of my current class at Messiah College, I’ve required the students to connect with me on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, and my blog. This is where both education and business are headed. We may meet from 6-9 on Thursday nights in a particular classroom, but I stressed early on that our classroom exists beyond that particular time and place. I’ve built up a good rapport with the students and my Twitter community has even jumped in and helped me teach the class by the way they engage.

  • donnatalarico

    Great points, Ken. One of the best thing is that I still get tweets from former students — they share things with me that I think I’d like based on us getting to know each other better. They report “social media successes” to me and one said she landed a job solely because of her experience in my class. That was the best compliment ever – it wasn’t all me – it was that she grasped the tools and learned to use them the right way. I know some of my comments have more to do with after graduation, but it can start in the classroom by following a professor who is a model social citizen. People just have to be open to it. It’s so much about building relationships. My class surveys were impressive – if I did not move out of the area, I know I’d be teaching that class again should they still need an adjunct to offer it.

  • jabberwocky12

    I ‘committed’ ‘Facebook suicde’ this week exactly because my two lives were begining to merge too much for my comfort – so there goes my credibility rating :-). (Unfortunately, it’s a slow death – it takes about 2 weeks – not even Wagner would dared to have done that :-)

  • http://twitter.com/millerasbill miller asbill

    I’ve been tweeting (both profession and personal stuff) consistently for almost two years. In general I’ve found students aren’t interested in Twitter. It’s not an easily social platform. I’ve even gone as far as to have a social media aspect to my class. However, they love them some facebook.
    Perhaps lack of interest is just in the students I’m dealing with in the arts, I dunno.

    @millerasbill

  • a_voice

    You said, “… I stressed early on that our classroom exists beyond that particular time and place.” I find that this is a troubling expectation that contributes greatly to undue stress for faculty and students. Some boundaries are needed so that we can keep our sanity and LIVE.

  • http://inklingmedia.net Ken Mueller

    Yes, there need to be some boundaries, but just like in business today, we need to stretch those boundaries. Also, you need to remember that my particular class is a Social Media marketing class. I’m teaching them how to use these tools, which can’t be done just within the confines of a 3 hour class in a classroom. they need to immerse themselves.

    The fact is, businesses that want to survive are going social, and the same thing is happening in education.

  • http://twitter.com/tsand Todd Sanders

    Fictional accounts? Guess it’s time for me to unfollow @KatelynMilton.

  • donnatalarico

    I think that’s where education needs to come in. Facebook and Twitter are totally different. Twitter is way more than talking to people. Within the creative writing/publishing circles in marketing circles, there is an incredible amount of sharing happening. When students realize that potential, many of them will become hooked. I had students follow a company on Twitter and each week, had them blog about the company’s activity, or lack thereof. It was a wonderful exercise. Again, my comment here is going beyond the scope of the article above, but just trying to paint a picture of how valuable Twitter can be in and out of the classroom. Hashtags are fantastic – there are so many great, regular conversations going on that students could be missing out. #prstudchat, #askagent, #submittip, etc. Everyone should give Twitter a real chance and really try to embrace it. Heck, I used it to help me relocate and made like-minded friends before I even started my new job at Elizabethtown College. I blogged about it.

  • jmco

    The results of this study confirms what I have always thought of polling students about how good or bad a professor is; they focus on personality, appearance, superficial elements of the person like clothing, lifestyle, or manners – none of which has anything to do with if they learned or not or gained anything from the class. IMHO I think faculty evaluations should happen with alumni only who have been working for a number of years. Professors, who I myself judged poorly when I was a student, I would now rate *superb* now that I am a pro at what they were teaching me. Students tend to be 17 to 28 years of age with most 18-25 in age. Most (but not all) young people are focused on relationship building and social interactions. So they judge faculty, often incorrectly, using an undeveloped brain. But what about a brilliant science professor who lacks social skills and dresses un-hip but teaches about things none of the older faculty cover in a curriculum? Things that the students of today will use as scientists (or writers, architects, business people, teachers, judges, etc.) and build new and exciting things and ideas from.
    This small survey of a “social” system shows that young people are overly judgmental and focused on how nice a teacher is and the perception that niceness equals easy grader versus how a very flawed “human” teacher, as we ALL ARE, could change their life in an amazing way, if they just set aside judging for a moment and decided to just absorb.

  • http://www.linkedin.com/in/cshunt312 Courtney Hunt

    The limitations of this study are pretty clear – especially the small sample size that’s probably not representative of the larger population. Given those limitations, as well as some of the comments already provided, the results should be interpreted and applied with (extreme) caution.

    In general I think faculty should be wary of establishing relationships with students outside the context of their courses while they’re still students, particularly on public platforms like Facebook and Twitter. Call me old fashioned, but I believe faculty should be careful of maintaining proper boundaries… I think we’ll see the growth of private social networks, however, which could provide a better, more controlled opportunity for those relationships to develop in contextually-appropriate ways.

    Getting back to Twitter, I just published a blog post that relates to some of the ideas conveyed in this piece. It’s called “Unlucky 13? Twitter “Worst Practices” for Rookies (and Others) to Avoid” and can be accessed via http://tiny.cc/SMinOrgsTwitterPost. I welcome feedback on my ideas.

    Courtney Hunt
    Founder, Social Media in Organizations (SMinOrgs) Community

  • juris_prudence

    I seriously question the validity of this study. The students “knew” these fictitious professors *only* from their tweets. The problem with that approach is that just five minutes of live, in-person contact with students — be it good, bad, or indifferent — carries far more weight than 100 tweets.

    Call me old-fashioned, but I’d suggest that if you want students to think that you’re caring, competent, and credible, act accordingly … in class, during office hours, and in your responses to student email. If you do that, students will respond. If you don’t, all the tweets in the world aren’t going to redeem your reputation.

  • arrive2__net

    Although there is a lot of useful expert advice around, I thought the research described in the article was good because it was actual research with actual students rather than opinion. Although the sample was relatively small and came from just one college, and the descriptions of the Tweets used was a little blunt, it seems authentic to me to test the ideas involved with actual students. A number of other variables could come into play however..one that comes to mind is whether the class is a large. In a hundred student class where the prof has little or no one-on-one face time with the majority of students, personalized Tweets might raise the students comfort level with the prof a lot. The prof’s skill level with Twitter, whether this technique is common across the campus, student comfort with and use of Twitter…there are a lot of variable involved, no doubt.

    Bernard Schuster
    Arrive2.net
    Twitter.com/arrive2_net

  • robi6293

    Actually, I think all this stuff about “boundaries” is the new development. When I was a student, it was assumed that students were adults, and whether students and staff formed friendships outside the classroom was entirely up to them and not something that you could make general statements about. Or maybe it’s not a time difference but a UK/US difference.

  • http://twitter.com/DonnaWilson2011 Donna Wilson

    Very interesting! I will be polling my students this summer on these findings.

  • http://twitter.com/eileenguo Eileen Guo

    Tweet on, tweeting makes you more credible. (also cool: coauthored by a good friend from high school)

  • http://twitter.com/Cultural_Hybrid Cultural Hybrid

    Professors With Personal Tweets Get High Credibility Marks
     

  • http://twitter.com/getRenown getRenown

    As a recent graduate of Brown working on a start-up geared towards college students, I would have to say that social media is a great way for students and teachers to connect.  I always found that my professors would share some of the best things in my network because they’re typically hooked into some great information streams.  Still though, I would hesitate sometimes because I didn’t know if I should friend them.  Fear of the wise, I guess…  
    I’m sure we can all visualize the take-no-guff substitute teacher that lets everyone know who’s boss by scrawling his name on the blackboard in screeching white chalk.  That’s the way of the past.  I think its time for a professors to start off the semester by writing their names along with an ‘@’ so as to say, “yes, we can be friends.”  That way we get this awkward ‘to friend or not to friend’ out of the way right from the start.  

    http://www.getrenown.com

  • Fat_Man

    Congress could at least restore discharge in bankruptcy to succor the unfortunate, or unlucky.

  • chuckkle

    Funny that someone who hides behind anonymity thinks they have some position from which to criticize anything on the basis of their research area.  Come on, marka: if you want to play, put some money on the table.

  • historydame

    What is missing in all this discussion are the extreme ramifications of the trickle down effect.  Most of us do not teach at R-1 universities, have huge teaching loads, and still have expectations for research and service.  If the teaching loads for R-1 faculty are raised, it will be all too easy for legislators in my state, as well as the administration of my university, to say that a 4-4 load is not cost-effective enough and we must teach a 5-5.  Many semesters, I teach 300 students with no TAs.   I’m so busy now that I don’t have time to teach the way I really want to and in the manner the students deserve.  And research?–forget about it!

  • nybound

    I teach at an R1 school with a 2-2 load. I certainly
    don’t want to teach more, but pragmatically I fear it isn’t sustainable. Tuition
    has been rising so fast, putting such a burden on the students and their
    families, that we simply have to investigate ways to reform the cost structure
    of universities. Yes, there are other things that can be done, but having a 3-3
    load (if 1 prep, with a break for multiple preps) become the new standard would
    help, and I have to confess that it would not be the end of the world. I would
    get a little less research done, but my better projects would still get done.
    If only we could cut down on the service, especially those pointless committees
    with no defined goals or agenda that only meet for the sake of saying we meet.

  • proftowanda

    Yes, I started at my campus with a 3-3 load, and I also can do it again — but only for some incentive in return.  How about a raise?  Faculty have had no raises for five years at my R-1 campus.  Discussion of getting us a raise will bring this to a screeching halt with our legislators, believe me.

    As for committes, yes, that’s where we’re all cutting back to cope with increased enrollments in loads that remain 2-2 but mean a lot more students.  There’s discussion right now in my college about how to get more faculty on our three standing committees.  There used to be nine committees, but our declining numbers of faculty (and declining budget for adjuncts; thus the need to increase enrollments in remaining courses) led to combining the work of nine committees down to three. 

    Brilliant!  You can imagine that the increased workload of committees did not attract more faculty to volunteer, while also coping with more students, and at the same time as declining real income.

  • 11142568

    I am not clear what world Dr. Kahlenberg lives in. As other commenters have noted, financial aid is a counter-revenue item, a discount applied to the sticker price.   Like all discounts, the goal is to “move the merchandise” and make the revenue projection.  Many of our institutions have little or no endowment.  Tuition from enrollment is how we keep in business.   As much as we can, we would like to help students who have financial need, but we would also like to have qualified students who will be induced to come  by a little discount.   There was a time – pre-Reagan – when federal financial aid  and state financial aid could help pay a very large proportion of tuition at moderately priced colleges.   But that is long ago and far away. And we could serve more needy students.  Unless we have huge endowments, we now need students who are very able or more or less able to pay  They may be able to pay more, but are unwilling, and we need them to bring in our budgets on target.    The economics of keeping our colleges afloat is very complex when the country has turned to the right, believes that government should be less, and taxes least. I remember watching Ronald Reagan early in his presidency talking about less spending in education.   I said to myself.  He is is going to destroy us.  He didn’t quite succeed, but discounting strategies are part of his legacy.  Peter Baker   

  • caveat2

    It is time to “invest” (with financial aid–tuition discounting) in those students who have the greatest probability of being successful. Why should some student whose family income is low and who has little probability of being successful be given any aid. I don’t invest in stocks that are likely to go bankrupt. I invest in stocks that have a high probability of producing a high rate of return on my investment. Education is no different.

    THE ONLY  CRITERIA for financial discounting of tuition should be probability of academic success. This success is not only retention success at the college, but success in the world, and an expectation of those students’ future alumni contributions, bringing  acclaim to the college, recruitment of those applicants’ peers who will also go to the college (and are themselves able to pay the tuition –which pays the bills at the college!) without discounting, and generates a “demand” for admission.

    All other criteria are uneconomical in the long and short-run to the college and the nation.

  • christopherneck

    Hello.   I’m Christopher Neck, the professor who was mentioned in Robin Wilson’s Story.  While Robin Wilson’s story was an excellent one, the point of her story was not my case specifically so I wanted to clarify some issues on my case.1.       My agreement with ASU was not just limiting number of classes to one.  It was teach as many intro students as ASU wanted, but in only one class.  500 was not my limit.  It was a space limit.  ASU still insists that I teach all of their intro students – it’s just that now they expect me to do it in 5 periods per week.2.       Ironically, I (and the course that I teach) were brought to the University in large part to provide a more efficient way to teach this core course (i.e.: 1000+ at once).  The University is not willing, however, to provide a large enough venue.

  • jgianandrea

    Merit aid can be
    interpreted as a ‘weapon in the battle for talent’, or in less severe words- it
    is used to shape a class. Universities use merit aid to compete for the students
    they want to attend their institution. But, as this article shows, the balance
    between ‘need based’ and ‘merit aid’ is becoming lopsided. Less needy students
    are getting more. What if there was an alternative to this? What if there were a
    product that allowed schools to successfully fight the battle for talent without
    giving more aid to the students that don’t necessarily need it? SAGE Tuition
    Advantage is a low cost financing option schools can use to counter this effect.
    Offering a low cost loan in lieu of some of the merit aid allows the university
    to recapture some revenue and recycle it into additional need based awards.

  • fredphillips

    Hmm, I don’t believe evergreens have leaves. I could be wrong.

    One critical thinking skill is being able to assemble a cohesive argument, and it’s not clear here whether the article’s about loss of cultures, changing curriculum, or critical thinking.

    It does seem clear that critical thinking cannot be context-bound; indeed we teach students to test principles developed in one milieu in another, and we moan when a guy who exercises critical thinking in his job cannot do so with his household or family.

  • geescott

    Evergreens certainly have leaves.  Have you ever seen a holly bush?!  We need scientifically literate people.  That is key.  If we had more of that then our population would not be swayed by the superstitious garbage that pervades the regressionists (Republicans)–from supply side economics to creationism.

  • 3rdtyrant

    Critical thinking ought to be an organic outgrowth of study.  I’ll admit that the notion of critical thinking students is very tantalizing, but the minute we begin to teach critical thinking by itself, we have exactly the problem Peter Wood reveals here.  I would argue that good literature (and by good, I mean actually good) lends itself to analysis and critical thinking, and actually encourages it, allowing the perceptive student/reader to improve this skill as he or she engages the text–with the help of a professor who gives a dang about such things.  Idealistic as it may seem, good literature, good students, and a good teacher in combination provides the most fertile seed-bed for critical thinking there is.  To try to teach critical thinking without a context is teaching to the test, and hardly amounts to anything more than providing an answer key.  All college professors ought to be critical thinkers by virtue of their training and study.  Training and study for students ought to prepare them and practice them in thinking critically about things in general.  Critical thinking needs to be ubiquitous in teaching, not compartmentalized.  So, the point is not to dethrone it, but to make it the principle of government.  Thus, the material we study in the humanities and sciences will take its rightful place on the throne, but will understand that the only thing providing it sovereignty is how it makes us think.

  • johnbarnes

    Another critical thinking skill is to grasp that not all ideas reduce to formal syllogisms, litotes, and enthymemes, or to propositions that can be processed by them.  One can think critically about how various painters saw light but the most important perceptions will probably not reduce to sentences; Beethoven is not found in any written analysis of his work.  Similarly with some topics: arrival at a conclusion would betray, not elucidate, the point.

  • manoflamancha

    I wonder if the world’s best “critical thinker”, by the standards outlined in this particular article and blog response, could solve an elementary nonlinear differential equation? Is this also critical thinking? It seems the masters of the game have confined it to the liberal arts, nes’t pas?

  • bscmath78

    manoflamancha, it is the coming up with the algorithm that involves real thinking.  Generations of students then memorize the cookbook, turn the crank, approach to solving the problem, without any real understanding, more like a conditioned response.  A few students, in each cohort, understand the algorithm and one or more of them of them might someday come up with a better algorithm.  Meanwhile, the rest probably use a computer package to get the solution, in a slightly more sophisticated fashion than those who use calculators instead of mental arithmetic.

    What I consider “critical thinking” is what Copernicus, Kepler, Newton and Einstein did. They overturned orthodoxy, conformity, custom, habit and tradition, while moving us forward in our understanding and our ability to calculate.  Or when someone thinks that Noble Gases, like xenon, can form compounds and provides a theory or creates xenon compounds. Or when someone reads a paper and thinks there is something wrong, eventually leading to the downfall of the great star Jan Hendrik Schön.  Please see some related comments here:

    http://chronicle.com/article/Despite-Occasional-Scandals/129997/#comment-379909553

    Math and the Physical Sciences are part of the traditional definition of the Liberal Arts, though it does often seem as if the Liberal Arts are reduced to the Humanities. 

    The term “critical thinking” seems to have its own meaning in the Humanities or at least in English and seems to be part of a struggle amongst competing agendas, so maybe it is best if we leave the term to them.   Instead, we should consider curiosity, creativity, intuition, inspiration, serendipity, understanding, meaning, openness, “prepared minds” and a willingness to recognize that we have been repeatedly wrong and that orthodoxy and tradition have been repeatedly wrong, as part of our aspirations that we are something more than adjuncts to software in the great adventure, the great quest for better understanding the Universe.

    “I’m happy that the computer understands the phenomenon, but I’d like to understand it too.”
    “It is nice to know that the computer understands the problem. But I would like to understand it too.”

    - Eugene Wigner

    “When you show me that result, the computer understands the answer but I don’t think you understand the answer”

    - Victor Weisskopf

  • dlazere

    To reiterate my comment on one of Peter Wood’s previous diatribes against critical thinking, I implore him to stop committing some of the most common fallacies that critical thinking seeks to overcome–undefined terms, sweeping over-generalizations, stereotyping, and straw-man argumentation.  Will he acknowledge that “critical thinking” has become a buzzword with no agreed-on definition by those who use it, that there are many different models of it, and that he ignores those that don’t fit his stereotype?  Will he identify and cite the sources for his claims about critical thinking advocates, so that I and others can judge whether we agree or disagree with them?

    One point of mutual misunderstanding seems to be a significant difference between the way critical thinking is theorized and practiced in some undergraduate schools of education and K-12 teaching, versus its formulations at the level of advanced scholarship, as represented by the Association for Informal Logic and Critical Thinking (AILACT).  If Mr. Wood were to address the work of scholars in that group, it would advance more fruitful dialogue on this topic.

    It would further advance dialogue if he were to respond to the model of critical thinking I outlined in this Chronicle blog earlier this year.  I do not mention in that blog (though I have in other publications) that my model does not divorce “skills” from content-area knowledge, but seeks to apply the former to the latter.  (I agree with E.D. Hirsch that acquisition of cultural literacy is inseparable from critical thinking.)  Nor is my model isolated from the kind of historical study that Mr. Wood and I both value.   One of my supplementary criteria of critical thinking is “the ability to reason back and forth between the past and present.”
    http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/critical-thinking-in-the-curriculum-donald-lazere/37094

    Donald Lazere

  • ksledge

    “The best thing about giving that teaching demonstration last week was
    that I was able to show the search committee how flexible I can be in a
    somewhat stressful situation, as well as how confident I am in my
    abilities in the classroom.”

    Yes, sometimes it’s good when something like this happens.

  • 609zr

    I guess Dave has not been on too many interviews.  I think the university is off to a good start if they actually remember to pick you up at the airport on the right day at the right time.  I have never once had an interview that rated over a ‘C’.  Remember these people have no training in HRM and are flying by the seat of their pants. 

     I actually had a President ask me questions from my resume, which is appropriate, but I didn’t know any of the answers about myself.  After a few minutes, I asked to see the resume from which the President was reading.  It wasn’t my resume!  I stood up and said “my time and money are important to me too.  If you can’t at least know my name and the job for which I am applying, call me a taxi.  This interview is over.”

    My advise is, if the interview committee is rude, incompetent, etc. during the interview, you do not want to know these people on a daily basis.

    “How do you respond?”  Answer:  Most of the time I instruct the offender to call me a taxi and inform them that a formal complaint is forthcoming.

  • look123

    I came prepared for my interview at a Carolina University.  I had emailed my contact and his secretary my full flight and hotel information (numbers and full address).   No one picked me up at the airport.  I took a cab to the Hotel and then was picked up an hour and a half late for dinner because no one read the email I sent.  My hotel was the Big Name Hotel they suggested but there was 3 of them in the downtown and surrounding area. 
     
    The next morning I was picked up late. I received my schedule as I sat down to my first round of interviews.  That’s right, I got my schedule 15 min. after I arrived for my interview.  It does not really matter as no one stuck to it.  Two of the four people I was supposed to have personal interviews with I didn’t…. one was out of town and another, as far as I could tell, just didn’t feel like it. I had a great laugh with the directing teacher who was willing to meet with me despite him not being on the schedule. We joked about summer stock theatres we had worked at which were more organized than the University.
     
    I got dumped in the costume shop where I sat for about 40 minutes doing nothing.  Despite the email I sent a week before I arrived saying that I needed about 20 min. to set up for my lecture before the students showed up, I was lead into the lecture hall that was empty except for the interview committee and was told they would be the only ones there and I could start my lecture right away.  No time to set up and no access to the overhead projector, which I had asked for, hence my electronic notes that were only supposed to be seen on my computer screen could not be switched around. I had to turn off my notes.  The Professor of Dance, for all of her conditioning of how the human body conveys emotion and tells a story, could only tell me she wanted to be anywhere but where she was.    
     
    I have never had such a horrible interview experience in all my life.  I went home and crashed for 2 days as keeping calm and collected as much as I could though the ordeal stressed me out. I agree with 609zr, if the interview committee is rude, incompetent, etc.before or during the interview, then you do not want to know these people on a daily basis.

  • 22086364

    Five minutes before class began, I had to ask a student what the topic of the day was.then I went into the bathroom, washed my hands, cursed, and put on my game face.
    I have the job, and I make sure we treat our candidates better than I was treated.

  • graddirector

    How about  being put up in a student dorm where I was advised not to walk outside after dark by the security guard at the door due to the real risk of a mugging.  This was followed by a drive to dinner through a sea of porn shops and “adult clubs” .  The topper was sitting down to dinner with the department chair, associate chair and dean who proceeded to get into a heated argument whether the criteria for tenure were the same as those at the highly ranked “main campus” of this major university system or took into account the high teaching load, challenging student population, and lack of research resources found at this branch campus.

    At a later meeting with said Dean where he confirmed that the “start up” research resources were abysmal and also confirmed that the criteria for tenure were the same as for faculty at the main campus who had 1/4 the teaching load and 7 fold the start up package.  By this point, I had had it and told this dean that while I would be interested in a teaching intensive position and working with the large population of first generation college students at this school, t he was out of his mind if at the same time the expectations for scholarship at promotion were the same as for faculty at the R1 ranked main campus.  I wonder why I never got a call back for a second visit on this one…….. 

  • http://twitter.com/JohnBarnesSF John Barnes

    That was my experience, back in the day.  I gave by far my best performances in moments of wild improvisation.  But in those days at least I had some control over

    The real difficulty nowadays seems to be that a huge stress has been put on “using technology” but no time is provided for familiarization or getting it working right; rather,more than once, I’ve had a substantial part of my presentation time go into the delay of having various people (in both cases including someone summoned from down the hall) come in and struggle with computers, projectors, etc.  The repeated offer to just do the alternate presentation that doesn’t involve the gadgets falls on deaf ears; once they’re committed to making their projector work, that’s what they’re there for.

  • jamesebryan

    Do you have a job yet?

  • tgroleau

    Wow, some of these stories are truly horrible.  I guess mine aren’t that bad.

    1) Seeking my first job out of grad school I had four campus visits in one month.  When one school took me to the hotel I found out that I was expected to put the room on my own credit card and get reimbursed later.  They had made the reservations and it was an expensive hotel.  It took 6 weeks for reimbursement to be processed. On graduate school income I don’t know how I could have gotten by if the other schools did the same thing. 

    2) Later in my career I spent a day interviewing for a position and asked every person I met about tenure requirements.  I got the exact same answer from both veterans and new hires until my last meeting of the day with the Dean.  He laid out roughly double the research productivity that everyone else told me.  I pointed out the discrepancy and he said it was time to “raise the bar”.   I wasn’t really disappointed that they didn’t offer me a job but I wondered what the next few years would hold for the faculty hired under one set of assumptions who were suddenly faced with a new standard.  It was no surprise that they lost several good junior faculty and the Dean himself was gone in three years leaving behind a mess.

  • minnesotan

    I think you gave up an excellent opportunity to show your poise and grace when dealing with a busy person who was probably quite embarrassed at his or her mistake. We’re all human — we misfile things, we make mistakes, and we aren’t all thinking solely about you all day. This stuff, while unfortunate, happens. I can’t imagine throwing a hissyfit and storming out of someone’s office because they accidentally picked up the wrong sheet of paper.

  • mkt42

    Although I had excellent grad school training and felt confident every time I walked into the classroom, I would occasionally have “that dream”:  the analog of the students’ nightmare about walking into a classroom and discovering there’s an exam they haven’t studied for.  For professors, it’s walking into the classroom and discovering that they have to teach a topic that they’re totally unprepared for.

    But I never dreamed (heh) that such a thing could happen in real life!  Good job at pulling that off.  I suppose it is a test of the candidate’s knowledge of the field and ability to talk intelligently and teach effectively in that field, but a might inhumane one.

  • iep_university

    It certainly wasn’t the President’s fault; a member of the search committee or an admin person or whoever messed this one up.  Geez…you’re bitter.  Keep us posted on how your taxi advice is working out for you.

  • wisernow

     The tunnel vision gets amazing. The whole point is: can you teach? That, in my mind, has nothing to do with technology.

  • wisernow

     Amazing isn’t it.

  • wisernow

    Sorry but I wouldn’t want to work with you either.

    Now that you’ve published this, I fear that interviews will be set up badly to test for civility, hissyfits, and sense of proportion! You may have made things worse for all of us.

  • wisernow

     When you see this kind of behavior, realize that they have an inside candidate. You are just being brought in to ‘prove’ that their person was the correct choice. So why would they try to make your visit a success. There is a reason for my name. :-)

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