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SideWiki, Reframe It, Diigo: Considering Competing Web Annotation Systems

October 12, 2009, 2:09 pm

Diigo

When Jason Jones wrote about Google SideWiki a few weeks ago, my first thought was “What about Reframe It?” Others (I heard) thought, “What about Diigo?” The following week, Brian Croxall posted “Writing in the Internet’s Margins”, which talks about CommentPress and also mentions digress.it.

No matter the tool, one thing is clear: more than a few people are hankering for a ubiquitous end-user commenting system for the web. Not group annotation of documents born in or uploaded to the web such that they live within a particular system (see: Google Docs, Co-ment, etc), but a specific service layered on top of the existing, independent web content. Sure, this layer and the accompanying freedom will result in comments that range from profane and inane to brilliant and life-altering, but hey—that’s people. And people have been hankering for this type of service for years—the Web Annotation entry in Wikipedia was created in 2003 (that’s almost 25 years ago in internet time!).

Now, for someone who geeks out over paratextual elements of dusty old books, you can imagine what these sorts of systems bring to the table—second or third order paratexts? Awesome! But that’s a discussion for another dissertation day. What we have now are several tools that allow users to do fundamentally similar things. However, none are ubiquitous—there are access limitations based on the flavor of web browser that you use, and the complexity of the interfaces renders them nearly useless on small devices (think netbooks, not to mention smartphones). Additionally, since these are competing services, the data—annotations and potential discussions attached to web content but outside of the content owner’s purview—the data is not shared. That is to say, as an annotator or commentator you have to first buy in to a single system unless you want to duplicate your efforts across the services..

All the Comments, All the Time

It’s worth clicking to enlarge.

This screenshot illustrates the potential absurdity of running all three of these annotation systems simultaneously over Kathleen Fitzpatrick’s Planned Obsolescence, itself running an internal commenting system. For reference, the screenshot is of a full-screen browser at 1440×900 resolution. While you can close all three of the sidebars—which you would do if you weren’t going for a particular effect, as I was—there are still issues of screen real estate being taken up by tools and their attendant toolbars. [On a somewhat related point, I also wonder if the next few years will see The Rise of the Landscape Web.]

Setting aside the issues of toolbars, sidebars, and browser extensions or lack thereof, and returning to the potential uses of these three pieces of software (and you will find others if you search for “web annotation” in your search engine of choice), we find still-murky waters. Which to choose? Or are the choices too overwhelming to be useful?

With Google SideWiki you can add a comment within the SideWiki system; that comment is associated with web content at a particular address, and your comment can highlight text on a page. Your comments are tied to your Google Account (and viewable on your profile), and you can push your SideWiki comments out to Blogger-based blogs. You can read wikified comments and vote them up or down (useful or not). However, the mechanism relies on the Google Toolbar. I know I am not alone in my dislike of full toolbars when unobtrusive menu items or buttons will do. [Note: I was an external usability tester for the Google Toolbar several years ago, and I said essentially the same things then, to no avail.]

With Reframe It you can add a comment within the Reframe It system; that comment is associated with web content at a particular address, and your comment can highlight text on a page (sound familiar?). Your comments are tied to your Reframe It account, and unlike SideWiki there are already hooks in place to share your annotations throughout your social network at large. The Reframe It service also allows you to build a network of people and groups within the service. This is similar to…

Diigo, which allows you to (say it with me now) add a comment within the Diigo system; that comment is associated with web content at a particular address, and your comment can highlight…

OK, OK, I get it. Highlighting, stickies, comments, browser toolbar or sidebar, so what? Which do I use?

SideWiki has the power of Google behind it and therefore a built-in user base; if millions of people are clamoring for invites to alpha/preview software (Google Wave), you can imagine there will be plenty of adopters of this technology that fundamentally already works pretty well. There’s also a SideWiki API. An API ensures that the data can be used elsewhere; in fact, I will venture to say that the value of SideWiki won’t really be seen until people start using the data elsewhere (and the commenting interface doesn’t require the entire toolbar).

Reframe It in Action

Reframe It in Action

Reframe It has the interface I like the best, but lacks a community despite having “noted authorities”—if you use annotations to build a secondary conversation layer, you’re out of luck. If you’re leaving notes to yourself, then it’s fine. If there were one service I wish more people would use, it’s this one.

Diigo has a toolbar plus a button option for those of us who do not like toolbars, and other customizable interface methods that make it clear they are trying to address the needs of many types of potential users. Diigo also brings together Delicious-like social bookmarking, which I found to be significantly more popular than the annotation aspect of the service.

Personally, I have not integrated any of these services into my workflow. As a content author, of course I care what people think about what I’ve written. But I tend to write in spaces that already have a commenting system as part of that first layer of the text (see, for instance, this post). As a content reader, I am interested in what other people have to say, but I am so used to the relatively useless comments prevalent in open writing spaces that I don’t know why I would add another piece of software to my browser just to see more of these comments. There’s simply not enough data to see if voting comments up or down or reporting offenses through the system will do any good to filter the noise.

More germane to the conversation at ProfHacker, which of these would you use in the classroom, and why? Earlier in the year, Nate Kogan wrote about the potential for Diigo in the classroom, and I’m interested in hearing more from him and others. Right now, I’m not seeing it for my own classes. What about you? Grab a coffee, give us a call, we’ll talk. No big whoop.

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7 Responses to SideWiki, Reframe It, Diigo: Considering Competing Web Annotation Systems

Heather Ross - October 16, 2009 at 11:25 am

This is a nice review of a lot of products that are very similar. I have been looking for some sort of desktop client (for Mac) that would do the same. If I have a printed article I tend to write a lot of notes in the margins (for me, not as part of a community). I would like to be able to do this without having to print the articles.

Diggo annoyed me in their initial days and I’m not sure that I’m ready to forgive them and I don’t know that I want to feed the Google beast anymore of my life.

That being said, I do think that these tools can be very useful for a lot of people.

Todd Finley - November 11, 2009 at 7:09 pm

I keep coming back to this post. I’ve been researching “annotation tools” for the last 15 months, and this piece was the most cogent bundle of information I’ve read, yet! Thank you.

By the way, I have found Diigo to be the most useful tool since RSS feeds for discovering new tools that challenge my understanding of literacy or just delight (http://www.triptico.co.uk/flashFiles/randomSixteen/randomSixteen.html).

The quality of Profhacker is remarkable!

tbf

Thomas Kehoe - January 13, 2010 at 9:08 am

I believe the product that I offer will solve a lot if not all of the web annotation issues that you are looking at. The difference between the product that I will be launching by the end of Q1 2010 and existing products is that you can take charge of your own web.

Yaytrail is a tool that ushers in the era of the open and personal web.

It’s an innovation that allows you to edit content anywhere on the web! Using Yaytrail, any webpage becomes an open and social space where you and your friends can add knowledge, opinions, ideas and insights, providing a definitive and personalised web experience that is created and edited by your peers. Everywhere you go, the collective intelligence of your friends will follow you!

Yaytrail is simple – just click and type anywhere you want to make a personal stamp on the web.

Yaytrail aggregates the trail of content created by you and your friends to help you discover new and interesting webpages and content, putting you in touch with what’s hot right now on the web among your friends.

George H. Williams - January 13, 2010 at 9:30 am

Thomas, what would make Yaytrail a better annotation system than those mentioned in this post?

Peter Kehoe - January 13, 2010 at 9:54 am

Hey George,

Tom’s asked me to reply to you since I’m the ‘techie guy’ at YayTrail :)

I think it’ll be up to users to determine what kind of service suits them best, but I can point out how YayTrail differs from the services in your post.

Chiefly, it’s interface. All of these services rely on two approaches – a sidebar in the browser or a layer on top of the webpage. The user’s content lives in one or other of these spaces. It’s the same approach that Third Voice initiated…all of these services are basically rehashing that core concept.

We love the idea of a universal, cross-website content platform, a way to ‘mash up’ sites. But we disliked the implementations in these kinds of services. We didn’t like that there’s a big sidebar taking up screen real estate. We didn’t like the idea of sticky-notes living on layers on top of – and often obscuring – the original page. We think these characteristics have kind of helped give annotation a bit of a bad name and limited more casual adoption and traction.

So we decided to make a tool that strips away the things we didn’t like about existing services. To do this, we’ve worked on technology that allows the user to enhance pages in-line. The user’s content lives as a native part of the page, not ‘out-of-line’ in a side bar or non-native content layer. In the ‘first layer’ as you put it. We think that gives a different level of control and power to the user, gives a different value to their content, and rids us of the heavyweight UI elements of previous services in one swoop. We let people share their enhancements with others…so you can follow people of interest, and their enhancements get merged into your view of the web. We don’t see everyone’s stuff, just the folks you want, which we think’s important when you’re giving this level of control to change and modify pages.

We’re still really raw, but that’s our vision. You can try out our preview if you wish, with FireFox. We simply think people have been recycling the core basis Third Voice started for too long now, we think one can do much better now with the browser tech and so on available today…so that’s what we’re trying to do :)

Julie Meloni - January 13, 2010 at 10:16 am

As the author of this post, and one who does watch technologies pretty darn closely as they develop (and I am a developer myself), of course I’m always happy to hear about new models for interaction. I think anyone who reads my post closely will note that I’m not exceptionally (or even really mildly) pleased with any of the systems I talked about–some for reasons of interface, some for reasons of data storage, etc.

Peter, you’re absolutely right about the consistent rehash of similar concepts, actions, and interfaces in the current popular annotation systems (I consider CommentPress something altogether different). I’ll definitely be downloading the YayTrail extension at some point soon based on the description in your penultimate paragraph, and I’ll give it a thorough eval (understanding its limited preview development stage). If it truly is something new and exciting, I’ll certainly do my best to make sure people know about it.

Peter Kehoe - January 13, 2010 at 10:27 am

Cool Julie – we’d love your feedback. In a way we’re trying to make a tool for folks like you – because folks like you sound a lot like us and our own frustrations with these services! :) Like I say, we’re kind of raw still, but the core of our tech is there and undergoing constant refinement.

If you need any help with it or just want to chat privately, please drop me a mail – peterk at yaytrail.com

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